Spot the Fake Smile

[severus]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/humanbody/mind/surveys/smiles/

I got 18/20. I missed #11 and #14.

Most people are surprisingly bad at spotting fake smiles. One possible explanation for this is that it may be easier for people to get along if they don't always know what others are really feeling.

Maybe that's why I don't like people.

 

[warryer]

7/20

Kinda wish I could watch the videos more than once but I guess thats the point.

 

[Cognisant]

18/20

I missed 17 & 19,
Both times mistaking a genuine smile as fake, but in my defence the video for 19 didn't load properly so I had to make the call based on a single frame.

 

[Auburn]

16/20

Gah, I missed all the ones that I spend the most time debating over..
But I like this test; it's good practice. I'll probably be consciously questioning everyone's smiles from now on..

 

[The Frood]

16/20.

Reminds me of Paul Ekman http://www.paulekman.com/

 

[Ashenstar]

Oh dear. I got 12/20. <_<
I fail.

I also tend to fail at relationships and human interactions in general.

 

[Wish]

Woah, 19/20! I got #13 wrong.

Cool test

 

[Deleted member 1424]

19/20
I noticed there was something off with #7's eyes, but it did seem real.

 

[ckm]

17. I think once you realise that the eyes are the key, it's comparatively easy.

 

[Adymus]

18/20.

There were a couple I thought I might have gotten wrong while taking it, and I think it was the ones I missed.

Dominant Ts, have fake looking smiles even when they are real, because the smile does not very often go far into their eyes.

You can tell which ones are smiling with Fi and with Fe too
So watching them put on Ti to kill the Fe smile is a dead give away, because it wouldn't have been necessary unless that was real emotion they were showing.

 

[Misanthropy]

I took this once I think I got 18/20.

edit: spelling

 

[Enola.Grey]

15|20

 

[echoplex]

16/20. 3 of the 4 I missed were ones I guessed to be fake that were indeed genuine. When I was uncertain I tended to answer fake because I assumed I would "just know" the genuine ones.

 

[Darby]

12/20

 

[volterock]

Is there a Paul Ekman of body language?

 

[transformers]

You got 15 out of 20 correct

 

[shoeless]

17/20. should have been 18 though, i mismarked the first one.

anyway, what did you guys say was the most useful part of the face for determining real vs. fake? i said forehead. (seriously.)

 

[Agent Intellect]

10 out of 20.

I don't have enough practice.

 

[Cognisant]

i said forehead. (seriously.)

Are you staring at their brain?

 

[Da Blob]

16/20.

Reminds me of Paul Ekman http://www.paulekman.com/

Thanks for the link I have been an Ekman follower for some time now, I have about 20 PDFs of his papers... I think if you search the forum > keyword, Ekman that there are a couple of posts of interest... Below is a relevant paper to the thread if one can get a PDF of it. The Duchenne smile is also worth reading up on...

The Duchenne Smile: Emotional Expression and Brain Physiology II
Paul Ekman Richard J. Davidson
Human Interaction Laboratory University of Wisconsin—Madison

Facial expression, EEG, and self-report of subjective emotional experience were recorded while subjects individually watched both pleasant and unpleasant films. Smiling in which the muscle that orbits the eye is active in addition to the muscle that pulls the lip corners up (the Duchenne smile) was compared with other smiling in which the muscle orbiting the eye was not active. As predicted, the Duchenne smile was related to enjoyment in terms of occurring more often during the pleasant than the unpleasant films, in measures of cerebral asymmetry, and in relation to subjective reports


EDIT: Then there is this...http://www.paulekman.com/publications/journal-articles-book-chapters/

 

[severus]

But I like this test; it's good practice. I'll probably be consciously questioning everyone's smiles from now on..

Ha! me too.

anyway, what did you guys say was the most useful part of the face for determining real vs. fake? i said forehead. (seriously.)

It's all in the eyes. Or around the eyes, anyway.

Now! off to read about Paul Ekman...

 

[Cavallier]

15/20 Not as bad as I thought I'd be. I suspect it's all about the eyes. Also, I tended to mark fake when I was unsure...those were the ones I got wrong :/

Am I seeing double? I swear I've seen some of these responses before but everybody's posts are from this last month...

 

[hope]

17/20 I always looked at the eyes after the person smiled

got 1,2 and the goatee wrong

 

[warryer]

Man I suck!... In my defense though I was watching TV and looking up stuff on the internet at the same time. Atleast an hour went by before I finished /yawn.

 

[The Lurker]

20/20. The eyes were the biggest giveaway to me, second maybe to the duration of the smile combined with head movement; a longer smile accompanied with swaying or bobbing of the head and squinting of the eyes was real while a brief smile with minimal head or eye movement was fake. I definitely did better than I thought I would.

 

[Loozer]

14/20

 

[Dormouse]

16/20
Awesome.

 

[Puffy]

17/20 Woo.

The fact they all go straight back to a grimace doesn't really help though, they all look a bit fake in that respect

 

[EditorOne]

13/20, confirming what I already knew, I'm really bad at figuring out other people's emotional state.

There really oughta be a school for us just for this crap.

 

[Devercia]

16/20

As with others, the ones I was unsure about were the ones I missed.

 

[ckm]

The fact they all go straight back to a grimace doesn't really help though, they all look a bit fake in that respect

Agreed. I found it very sudden and off-putting.

 

[severus]

20/20. The eyes were the biggest giveaway to me, second maybe to the duration of the smile combined with head movement; a longer smile accompanied with swaying or bobbing of the head and squinting of the eyes was real while a brief smile with minimal head or eye movement was fake. I definitely did better than I thought I would.

Oh! Nice. I was wondering if anyone would get a perfect.


And yeah, immediately returning to the grimace made things... weird.

 

[Slyphee]

17/20, I was mainly looking at the eyes

 

[Ashenstar]

See, I know it's all in the eyes..... and the eyes are supposed to give it away. That's what I was using! How did I fail?!

 

[Words]

16/20 ...used intuition and feeling. maybe i'll use my brain next time.

edit: used brain and failed...a pity.

 

[walfin]

16/20.

Then again, some of the videos froze and the buttons got disabled ("you can only play once").

Intuition and feeling probably work far better than logic for this.

And yes, I think it's always the eyes. Really makes things hard for autistic people since they don't like to look people in the eye.

 

[Firehazard159]

16/20. Interesting enough. Makes me think of lie to me :P

 

[brain enclosed in flesh]

Spot The Fake Smile

Results

You got 5 out of 20 correct

Oh my God.

 

[Words]

Oh my God.

too untrustlingly distrustful?

 

[warryer]

Oh my God.

We can fail together!

 

[gracie]

hi i'm gracie and i'm researching this project and i was just wondering where you got the quote from?

 

[gracie]

oh and i was talking about the very first quote that severus posted

 

[severus]

gracie,
That quote can be found through the link. You have to take the little quiz on the smiles first; it's on the same page as your results.

Edit:
And welcome, of course!
What's this project now?

 

[saffyangelis]

16/20. Interesting enough. Makes me think of lie to me :P

Just as a note on this, I've read about microexpressions before (I'm still bad, I got 14/20 on the test =/), and Paul Ekman actually was used as a consultant on that show, and he's the one that developed a lot of the research that went into these.

(/random)

 

[Bennett]

14/20... meh, could have been worse. 15/20 if you take into account one I changed my mind on instantly after selecting.

 

[Cogwulf]

14 out of 20, better than I expected. Though I think I am better at reading other people than I think but I fail badly at tuning my responses to other people

 

[Nevermind]

18/20
Both of the ones I missed were genuine smiles that I thought fake..I suppose that's pessimism.
I used the eyes and head movement mostly.

 

[SpiralHacker]

19/20. Missed #15.

 

[bananaphallus]

8/20 : (

 

[Pythia]

Both of the ones I missed were genuine smiles that I thought fake..I suppose that's pessimism.

Same situation here. Except that I missed more than two: I got 9/20.