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re the latter: it was through the process of becoming a mother that the F side grew in me. Before that I had little Fe, though I've always had tons of Fi, being passionate about my ideas and principles.

NoID10ts, you have blown my mind with your post. I never used to take much notice of Perseus, really, to be honest, because I couldn't understand a word he was talking about and I thought he was weird. But simply by being open minded, curious, warm and accepting, you have seen something that I...

I don't consider myself creative and I am not that affected by violence - apart from what I said above. I am more affected by what I consider to be injustice and believe I would adopt violence to fight it. At school I did.

I am not that sensitive to violence either. In fact my reactions are a bit confusing. I suppose my overwhelming reaction to violence is anger which then acts as a spur to rather violent reactions on my part. I could genuinely see myself joining a guerilla organisation. If I were a peasant in...

I smiled at this :) Yep on both accounts. Partly its because gender roles have brought out F qualities in me but the Jness has always been around nagging me - a real nuisance sometimes, though it never helps me get things done. Its funny, as it makes me feel sometimes as if I'm in no-man's land.

I'd love to see your mishmash though, what little I have seen of you would suggest that they are anything but.;) In my own case, the door is open and a decision must be made. But first I've got to get over the shock :phear::)

I subscribe to Nic Askews weekly 'thunks' - short (2minute) thoughts to music that move me and sometimes haunt me during the week ahead. Here's his latest and an excerpt from it: "I’ve noticed that when we dream of life together, the world that already exists around us emerges in a different...

AI, that's just disgusting. There's such a thing as good taste. And NoID10ts faith all over your face isn't it.:eek: Restrain yourself, please :rolleyes:

Cheers :D I raise a toast to you NoID10ts - to a wonderful guy. This champagne is great. I wish I could share it with you. :cool: It's 1am and we're all toasting you :D. I've just had a wonderful dinner party with lots of INTPness :) ie discussion and debate about beauty and truth :cool:

I've just had a phone call from NoID10ts family. They wish to say that any posts allegedly coming from them are fraudulent. They wish to announce the following: We are totally distraught at his death. We always loved him. We didn't understand what was happening to him at the end and we were...

Brilliant - that's it exactly. But my unmet need isn't for affirmation. It's for freedom of expression. It's more like NoI said Like it? I love it :D. Why can't we get this in RL? Despite having close friends and a loving husband I suppose I have realised that by joining this forum I have...

J'accuse, NoI :mad: You can't possibly be an INTP whilst being sooooo popular. I've always thought you a bit peculiar. Now I know why - you're an ESFP in disguise, leading us astray with your wit and badinage, wrecking our deep discussions with play and derailing our threads when they get too...

Its Friday and I'm going out :D;)

Oh, all right. I get the message :o *climbs down off platform and skulks back to bed*

Oh, is that what it was? :eek:

*slap* *slap, slap, slap* Wake up NoID10ts, you've been dreaming.:eek:

@ Jesin :confused::confused: Re the dream thing here's some quotes - corny but... "There is a deep, innate, almost inexpressible yearning within each one of us to find our voice in life." Stephen Covey – The 8th Habit "The only way to do great work is to love what you do….Your time is...

I'll use and discard you NoI. *uses and discards NoI* How was that for you?

We really respect you for your errr brains. We really do. *forces self to look into NoI's eyes* And you really do have lovely eyes - very blue.

I'm sorry NoI. I really love INTPness. :D

I'll gather up the girls. Girls - do we want this tatty lot for a harem or would you prefer some ENTPs? I've mentioned this before somewhere but I love ENTPness. It is more sociable and tends to come out to play more - a bit more adventurous too. I suppose we could combine them. But I think...

You've no reason to. You're happy enough in the present; not scared enough of the future. There's no reason why you should want to embrace the pain of change. You'll only change when the pain of not changing becomes more intense than the pain of change - either that or you'll fold and...

I think you do enjoy misery. Misery is fun. It can be indulged - a bit like INTPness. Its certainly less like hard work than say - CHANGE. Misery is like watching TV and change is like plucking up the courage to enrol in a course. Of course you'd prefer misery - its much more comfortable. Oh...

cheers and good night :D

patterns, patterns, fractals and fractals. We' d be lost without them. Maybe that's what we so scared of - patternlessness.

we cross posted. I said imagine these stories in your head to keep your mind occupied at work. The book recommendation was something separate.

AI where are you?? I'm the one who's meant to disappear, not you. Or are you too preoccupied with your INTPness. Stop it, right now and come back here. No, not there. Bloody hell, now theres a right mess. Come here! :rolleyes:

Hi Kidege, I've been quite good today as well. Only about 1 1/2 hours on line all told. Mind you I was hosting a talk this evening and have only just got free so maybe it wasn't a fair test. But as soon as Lor told me to scram, I did. ONly one problem...there's so much I want to SAY its...

*pop* Hi! *pop* bye!

:(:( I just saw this.....no UK, no England? :(:(

Great! Now all you have to do is write some stories in your head all involving the protagonist named Tom, who, after joining an internet forum became transformed and followed his dreams......:D Write as many stories as you can and see where they take you - at the very least it'll keep you...

Can I just say that the above is rubbish. Far too sensible and boring :o It was fun yesterday. Maybe Ogion was wrong :confused: Maybe I'm going mad :confused:

Quote: Originally Posted by eudemonia So then I go back to my original question - what could your life look like if you went to college and graduated? What about - what would your life look like if you didn't go to college and what might it look like if you did? Imagine all the options -...

Lots to say in response to these posts but I'm currently using my blackberry so its not easy to post. One thing that resonates with me is the idea of fun. I'm not v good at it. I've had two periods in my life where I've had fun. The fisrt was backpacking around the world and the second was BK...

@AI, I know what you say has truth in it. I have learned a hell of a lot from this forum. However, at the same time, I have avoided doing things in RL which has caused upset, chaos and confusion. My mind is absorbed with all sorts of imaginings that are less than productive, when previously I...

So then I go back to my original question - what could your life look like if you went to college and graduated?

I've been trying to limit myself to one or two threads maximum. But I find myself constantly reading the other threads and sometimes making posts. Then once you've made a post, you want to know who will reply and what they will say :confused::o So I should go cold turkey but I'm not sure I...

Ummmmm, is this another one of those Anglo-American english things?? Have I said something absurd in Americanese? In the UK, to 'take the piss out of someone' is to make jokes at their expense, ridicule them, laugh at them. IT IS A METAPHOR. This is from Wiki: To take the piss is a British...

@ Cryptonia - thanks, I'm not mad. There is something insidious about this forum. I am interested in how exactly it does take over your social life - it does have something to do with a psychological state of mind. Not meditative but not goal focused either. Its a slightly hypnotic, fantasy...

OK, I have come to a shocked realisation today. I am addicted and I need help. No more denial. I unexpectedly had a day to myself today (cancelled appointment). A whole day to do what I wanted. I could have read one of my pile of books; done some much needed work; completed admin. But...

Hah! My point exactly. INTPness always forces you to rely on the hands of others to finish the job - usually the person who delegated the job in the first place.:rolleyes:

Well I like them. I like the single 'Animals' - it always makes me smile! And he's fit!!! I love men with long hair. :cool: But I have to admit, my taste in music is very uninformed and unsophisticated - so laugh away :o

I didn't think pangolins had hands :confused:

What about a male prostitute - I hear there's quite a demand. Or a mega-succesful pop star? Could you be the lead singer from Nickelback - he is so yummy and what a great voice? What do you think? On the other hand you could completely ignore this and the last post which are completely...

Hi Snail. So, no women allowed then? :( EDIT: ahem, I meant on this thread - not in your harem :o:o:o

But say if you did have the money and no constraints, what difference would it make to your life if you could go to school and graduate?

Ahhhh, don't you love Asian waitresses with their PhDs. The perfect combo - waiting on and, when you're ready guys, intellectual stimulation at your beck and call. Followed by - 'waiting on'. Perrrrrrfect. :p:p:p:p

Civilian Jones you have got it all wrong:rolleyes:. The problem is not western women, it is rather western men. Basically, the latter have lost their masculinity. So they go for non-assertive women because that's all they can cope with. Women hate men they can manipulate. Western men are so...

What an exciting time in your life Fernando. I'm quite envious! Enjoy every single minute of it :) I think its important for us to define our own versions of femininity. We no longer need to be constrained by other people's definitions. There is something very alluring and powerful about an...

Yes, I do. You'll probably take this all wrong but Ill say it anyway. Its funny really, when I was young, I was soooo unaware of my body. And I was really attractive. Although I knew I was OK-looking I never fully took advantage of it - I never realised the power and the fun it could yield...