Instant Dislike

[Anthile]

I recently discovered that whenever I stumble upon a lastfm profile which contains phrases like "Music is my life" or "I listen to everything but rap and country" - and nothing but top40 music, it automatically makes me think less of them.
Those people might be alright in RL, it's just that these phrases make me go .


Do you have this too? I'm not talking about obvious stuff that would make one disagreeable for the majority like, say, being a political extremist or a religious nut.

 

[ashitaria]

Same here. I think that true audiophiles listen to music from all generics, not just the damn top 40.

If I must say so, I find that really smart people have a lot of varying sounds in their MP4s and so on and so forth...on other words, you have a melancholy song and then you have a screaming rock metal the next.

It's a correlation I see among smart people (and I'm talking about really really obviously smart people).

 

[echoplex]

I've sort of developed an annoyance at the phrase "everything happens for a reason." I think it would be more interesting for people to speculate on various theories of what that reason might be, but no, they just end the discussion right there. And it's not the religious undertones of that statement that bother me, it's just that an interesting discussion has never contained such a statement.

And since you mentioned music, I have a few. "Their earlier stuff was better" has become an overstated phrase, even if it's sometimes true. And I'm really tired of "good but too mainstream." Goddammit, you said it was good so who cares if it's mainstream, just listen asshole. Basically anything uttered in those dreaded shoutboxes.

 

[Cavallier]

The words, "OMG! [insert reality tv show title here] was AWESOME last night!"

 

[cheese]

echoplex, you seem to have a vendetta against this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thought-terminating_cliche#Thought-terminating_clich.C3.A9

as do I.

 

[kantor1003]

I recently discovered that whenever I stumble upon a lastfm profile which contains phrases like "Music is my life" or "I listen to everything but rap and country" - and nothing but top40 music, it automatically makes me think less of them

*upcoming rant*
I agree. How likely would it be that one, having a thorough interest in music, oddly enough only find the top 40 to be quality and/or appealing music in favor of all other music composed during the last 500 years? I mean, REALLY. Give me a break. You don't know jack shit about music, you only grew up dreaming of being a rock/pop star, shaking your ass, being worshipped by the masses. Maybe you enjoyed a tune or too, but you, mr/miss "music is my life" didn't even bother to figure out why you enjoy certain tunes. You didn't pursue other kinds of music. You didn't bother to really practice any instrument. You just sit there noodling out your Am, F, G, C chords like you have done the past 5 years singing out some sentimental shit melody, being "all in the music" thinking your some kinda big shit. And maybe you even become one, if you got the boobs and ass for it, and you get someone to recognize your "talent" for your ability to give give 16 year olds a boner. Now you finally have become a true musician. Your voice being autotuned to hell because you can't sing for shit, your voice coming from playback while you shake your ass to a poor tune you didn't even write yourself.
Fuck you and all the other people that don't even have the intellectual capacity to find out what music they like other than the crap that's being marketed and fed into their mouths.

 

[NeverAmI]

I have inherent biases, but I try to limit them.

 

[Da Blob]

I think Kantor has a good point. Most music (pop music) is manufactured by the music industry. It is a product - not a work of Art. The musicians 'popularized" by the music industry are manufactured as well. So who was the last really ugly musician, who could not make great videos? Music was meant for the Ear and not the Eye...

In times past Music was an Art, practiced by Artists as a means of self-expression. I think the current state of musical 'propaganda' reflects a greater theme of our current decadent society - where the Powers-that-Be decide for us What is going to be popular - What is going to be Heard - What is going to be Seen - What is going to be News - What is going to be Believed...

 

[WeAreTheStrange]

I dislike it when it doesn't put the lotion in the basket...

 

[DrSLudge]

*upcoming rant*
I agree. How likely would it be that one, having a thorough interest in music, oddly enough only find the top 40 to be quality and/or appealing music in favor of all other music composed during the last 500 years? I mean, REALLY. Give me a break. You don't know jack shit about music, you only grew up dreaming of being a rock/pop star, shaking your ass, being worshipped by the masses. Maybe you enjoyed a tune or too, but you, mr/miss "music is my life" didn't even bother to figure out why you enjoy certain tunes. You didn't pursue other kinds of music. You didn't bother to really practice any instrument. You just sit there noodling out your Am, F, G, C chords like you have done the past 5 years singing out some sentimental shit melody, being "all in the music" thinking your some kinda big shit. And maybe you even become one, if you got the boobs and ass for it, and you get someone to recognize your "talent" for your ability to give give 16 year olds a boner. Now you finally have become a true musician. Your voice being autotuned to hell because you can't sing for shit, your voice coming from playback while you shake your ass to a poor tune you didn't even write yourself.
Fuck you and all the other people that don't even have the intellectual capacity to find out what music they like other than the crap that's being marketed and fed into their mouths.

shit man I couldn't find this picture that I got, anywhere on the internets so I had to up it to fagbook but take a look and save it so you can zoom in.

"How to make awesome music in 5 minutes"
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos...3_395069057546_710057546_4711918_653340_n.jpg

this is basically how bands like blink182 make their music.

best song made in last 500 years -> YouTube- Bach, Toccata and Fugue in D minor, organ

 

[Jill BioSkop]

Absolute incapability to understand something/one else thinks differently or has different priorities. It's entertaining but Oh-so-annoying.

 

[echoplex]

kantor/Da Blob:
Sort of playing devil's advocate here (since I'm inclined to mostly agree with your sentiments) but isn't virtually all music marketed, a product, manufactured by an industry? Sure, some music is marketed far more aggressively than other music, but even your unsigned little-known artists that the 'mainstream' would never touch are still often promoted by fans who want you to listen. They are likely trying to make money as well and not just doing it for the love of it. Everyone complains about the popular stuff, but lots of unpopular stuff uses similar tactics to get noticed, even if they're only targeting a small market.

I dunno, I'm just not sure where you can draw the line. Can 'art' never make a profit? Can't 'art' be made into a product and still be 'art'? I'm tempted to think people are considering things not-art simply because they don't like them, which is a matter of taste. I mean, what if your favorite music happened to become wildly popular/profitable? or is that just an exception to an otherwise prevalent rule?

no offense guys, I'm just curious about this view.

cheese:
That was interesting. Thought-terminating cliché seems to describe pretty well what I was trying to say. Thanks.

 

[kantor1003]

shit man I couldn't find this picture that I got, anywhere on the internets so I had to up it to fagbook but take a look and save it so you can zoom in.

"How to make awesome music in 5 minutes"
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos...3_395069057546_710057546_4711918_653340_n.jpg

this is basically how bands like blink182 make their music.

best song made in last 500 years -> YouTube- Bach, Toccata and Fugue in D minor, organ

I tried to zoom in, but the picture resolution is so bad that I have trouble reading whats written. I see a list of cadences, but would be cool to read the whole article. Let me know if you find it somewhere

oh, and that bach fugue is a classic

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First, I don't completely agree with this "They are likely trying to make money as well and not just doing it for the love of it." There is no real money to be made by less known musicians (especially if they are playing non-commercial music), and many of my favorite musicians barely, if not at all, are able to make a living.. but they still continue to do their thing, even if they have to do it on the side.
"Everyone complains about the popular stuff, but lots of unpopular stuff uses similar tactics to get noticed, even if they're only targeting a small market."
True.

"Can 'art' never make a profit?"
Art can make a profit and still be art, as the greatness of a piece of music or a painting don't diminish it inherent quality by it being sold for $$ or $$$$ (it affects public opinion though)
When the art making decisions are being made out of $ reasons however, instead of aesthetic reasons, that's where I have a problem. When the product being marketed is appealing to primitive sexual desires on the cost of musical/artistic quality, that's where I have a problem.

 

[Vegard Pompey]

Like NeverAmI I have my biases but try to limit them. I hate close-mindedness and inflexibility and always try to be open-minded and flexible myself, but it's generally part of my nature to the point that I don't really need to actually try.

Some things that may result in dislike on my behalf:

Christianity. There are other idiotic beliefs as well, but Christianity is the one I encounter the most. There are intelligent, sensible Christians but they are the exception and not the rule.

People who talk about sex all the time.

Oh, and perhaps the most irrational, hypocritical dislike I have: I despise cars and the people in them. I also despise mopeds and motorcycles and the people on them. I especially hate the ones who will go short distances by car because they're too lazy to walk or ride a bike, and the ones who just drive around with no destination in mind just for fun. Do I hate them for environmental reasons? No, I hate them because I hate the sound of these machines. I fucking loathe the noise of these machines.

And children. I fucking hate children.



...I was gonna write a defence of mainstream/pop music, not the worst of it, but I got lazy.

 

[kantor1003]

And children. I fucking hate children.

I have to agree there. Depends on their age:
0-6 is terrible/unbearable
6-12 at least they don't cry all the time. Most of them are still really irritating. Nice for people that like to manipulate though, you can sculpture them however you want.
12-16 ah. Puberty. Nothing beats a loudmouthed, "I know it all" rebel.
16-19 the "grown up's" do I have to say more? :P
20-death not really that much better, hehe

 

[Saeros]

I hate both intolerant, and intolerable people.

 

[citrusbreath95]

The words, "OMG! [insert reality tv show title here] was AWESOME last night!"

ha ha, you'd go insane on my bus ride then! (ah, they went on for about 20 min.... same 3 shows, same for about a week

 

[Causeless]

I despise cars and the people in them.

I don't so much mind the average car on the road; even idiot drivers deserve a little leeway, I know I've had my bad days.

On the other hand, what I can't STAND are the folks in the obviously unnecessarily HUMONGOUS vehicles. An SUV for a lot of kids, cool... Your average pickup, okay... You have a U-Haul that day, whatever. No, I'm talking about the bastard with the two-extra-tire-wide-ass luxury pickup he's surely utilizing about his night of clubbing downtown.

"Awesome! With all of daddy's extra money we can afford the SUPER FordExpeditionsplorerMountaineerHighlanderMegaMINI-Hummervanspaceshipv8000."

When I can't see my stoplight through "National Treasure 2" on your flop-down, big-screen DVD Player your car is TOO BIG!

Bonus eyetwitch points for the Jesus fish.

 

[Anthile]

Me: So you like Radiohead?
Other Person: Yeah, of course.
Me: What's your favorite album?
Other Person: Uh, that one with Creep on it.


Gets me every time. It happens soo often, you wouldn't believe.

 

[EditorOne]

"I like any song not performed by Barry Manilow."

 

[warryer]

I walked by a group of guys talking about polo shirts once.

yea....


Douchebaggery of any kind makes me insta-dislike.

 

[Dormouse]

My brother ran a cross-country race in a polo shirt once. I laughed.

 

[reprographist]

Ugh. >< Yes, I hate that stuff.
I hate hearing phrases about Jesus all the time though, mostly.

 

[Alexk]

I instantly dislike ignorance, plain and simple. Even if it is for a cause I believe in.

That said, I'm about to piss off everyone who wrote a reply about the music thing... because I think it's ignorant to dislike someone for said reason.

I enjoy pretty much all music. I am also aware that most of today's music is not intelligent, innovative, or particularly mind-blowing. The people who made it know that, the people who listen to it know that, and the people who analyze it like you know it as well. They didn't do it to for that reason, but it is still an art in the sense that it draws an emotion.

I'll go sit outside and listen to Beethoven, then go snowboard and listen to Blink 182, and even though my 13 year old brother could play Blink, I appreciate the fact that they came up with something that has a feeling of fun to it.


Oh yeah, and I instantly dislike people who dislike popular music because it's popular without ever looking into it, because that's ignorant.

Watch this and tell me the Top 40 doesn't include some talent and innovation.
YouTube- Lady Gaga - Poker Face (Piano Version)

 

[kantor1003]

I am also aware that most of today's music is not intelligent, innovative, or particularly mind-blowing. The people who made it know that, the people who listen to it know that, and the people who analyze it like you know it as well. They didn't do it to for that reason, but it is still an art in the sense that it draws an emotion.

Music don't have to be intelligent, innovative, or "particularly mind-blowing". But creating music for the sole reason to make money, that's what I have an issue with.
With that said, music that are intelligent and innovative are being discouraged. But that is always the case. People can't seem to recognize genius before they are gone.

Watch this and tell me the Top 40 doesn't include some talent and innovation.
YouTube- Lady Gaga - Poker Face (Piano Version)

Ok then, you tell me; where is the innovation in the piece of music you just shared?

 

[DrSLudge]

when she snapped her fingers next to the microphone... and played with her shoe...

can't you recognize genious!!!!???

 

[EditorOne]

""Awesome! With all of daddy's extra money we can afford the SUPER FordExpeditionsplorerMountaineerHighlanderMegaMINI-Hummervanspaceshipv8000."


I like the names. "Navigator," because you need a map to get from one end to the other? "Expedition," because Peary had less baggage to get to the pole than you can pack in one? And finally the name that says it all: "Armada." Not just one ship, an armada.​

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[Vegard Pompey]

I'll go sit outside and listen to Beethoven, then go snowboard and listen to Blink 182, and even though my 13 year old brother could play Blink, I appreciate the fact that they came up with something that has a feeling of fun to it.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laIr_d0hFB8&feature=related

This is more or less what my defence of mainstream/pop music had amounted to if I had written it. Many years ago I complained to a friend about the prevalence of the verse-chorus-verse structure, to which he replied that "it's a very good structure". I know a lot of people with sophisticated tastes in music, who like tried tried-and-true chord progressions and conventional structures, and are well aware of the alternatives. Convoluted structures, unusual chords, general intricacy, is a preference, not a quality that necessarily makes music with that quality better than music without it.

And this is coming from a guy who loves progressive and experimental music.

 

[Moniker]

I really hate the fact that I have biases, and try to ignore the initial dislike after I meet a person. But my biggest peeve, since I live in Georgia and am surrounded by it, is listening to conservative Christian republicans. As soon as I know they are one, I like them a little less, and though I may learn to like other areas of them, I refuse to speak politics, religion, or education with them because I know I'll just insult them.

I almost pulled out my hair when I was walking the other day and saw a big truck with a confederate flag on back, proclaiming "Bring our troops home! Ship out them Dems instead!" It is instances like this that make me feel misanthropic.

 

[Inappropriate Behavior]

Misinformation/disinformation. It is a plague that has spread through the states faster and more destructively than the Bubonic plague of the middle ages. Whole towns have been wiped out by it. Only instead of being dead, they're morons. Which is worse than being dead.

Ignorance is NOT FUCKING BLISS!!!!!!!!!