Handwriting

[RubberDucky451]

I was thinking about how terrible my handwriting was, yet I'm very obstinate concerning my spelling and grammar while typing.

I was curious to find out if other INTP's also have bad handwriting, and if you do what's the reason?

 

[amorfati]

My hand writing is utterly atrocious. I also write with my left hand, for whatever that's worth.

 

[y4r5xeym5]

I blame my horrible penmanship on being forced to write with my right hand in my early years. I could have been a beautiful lefty, but I am instead marred with ambidextrous chicken scratch.

 

[Words]

Ditto and Left-handed. Only I can read my own writing. It's such a bother to beautify the miscellaneous when they're not the main objective.

Nothing to do with my talents--I can develop this--but I simply do not care about the aesthetic value when the practical result is right in front of my eyes.

 

[KazeCraven]

I actually started by using my left hand, and it can be neat if I take it a little slow.

By the other hand, it's not so neat. But since my other hand uses the whole arm, I seem to be able to actually write faster with it (and my hand doesn't cramp because my arm is the thing driving the letters).

I've actually tried to fix my handwriting before. With my left hand, neatness is a function of the inverse of speed. With my right hand, it's hopeless.

Edit: For clarification, I'm "left-handed" and taught myself to write with my right hand around 13yrs to have a way to avoid smearing graphite or ink all over my hand.

 

[Sparrow]

It depends...on the pen for me. I can write exceptionally well with some pens. Its the damn grip that dictates how well I write. Also, I can never write on the line. It hovers above the line!

 

[Words]

Yes, its hard to realize that there's a line. And if you do, it would simply escape the mind again.

 

[Deleted member 1424]

I would probably have better handwriting if I'd been allowed to use my left hand; I'm actually neater with it, but I can't write as fast. I also hold my pencil the 'wrong way,' so that may contribute.

I haven't actually hand written anything of significant length since high school, so it almost feels foreign to me now.

 

[RubberDucky451]

Yes, its hard to realize that there's a line. And if you do, it would simply escape the mind again.

Yep, my letters are typically above and below the line.

It's strange that so many of you are left handed

 

[Sugarpop]

I was thinking about how terrible my handwriting was, yet I'm very obstinate concerning my spelling and grammar while typing.

By far the best way to tell a teacher 'I don't respect you' and 'I'm smarter than you' at the same time.

 

[Mary]

I have horrible hand writing.
Speed > Prettiness of writing

 

[Lithorn]

I wouldn't say my handwriting is ugly. In fact, it's kind of pretty, but in no way neat. All the letters start to flow together in a half-print half-cursive scrawl. Well, I think it's pretty.

 

[NeverAmI]

Lefty and extremely sloppy. I will post up a pic when I get a chance.

 

[citrusbreath95]

My handwriting is terrible as well. Though, I can get have good handwriting sometimes, if I take my time and intend to. Sometimes I will get the urge to and will for about 25% of the page, then I forget to write neatly and it gets all sloppy. I think for me the problem is that I write very quickly usually, as I really get interesting ideas when I write, (if doing a paper or analysis) and when I am writing, I think I am physically trying to keep up with my brain, thus, making it come out very sloppy. Though one great thing comes out of this- the ability to write very quickly!

 

[BigApplePi]

What's the matter with you lefties? Why are there so few rightie responses. What? Is this some INTP conspiracy?

Enough with the questions. I am a leftie. I find it hard or impossible to write in a straight line. I stopped handwriting. I have to take notes and keep them short. So I print. I can still hand-write but now I like printing much better. AND IN CAPS TOO! It works.

 

[Sugarpop]

What's the matter with you lefties? Why are there so few rightie responses. What? Is this some INTP conspiracy?

Enough with the questions. I am a leftie. I find it hard or impossible to write in a straight line. I stopped handwriting. I have to take notes and keep them short. So I print. I can still hand-write but now I like printing much better. AND IN CAPS TOO! It works.

If it's any comfort, I'm right-handed, and my handwriting has infamously been declared unintelligible by all.

 

[bananaphallus]

I'm also right-handed, here's a sample of my handwriting, god dammit.

 

[Hawkeye]

lol

I can only write neat with pencils. My handwriting with a pen (ball point) suffers significantly.

I think it's all down to the amount of friction. I prefer pencils anyway, they're more user friendly



Random Pencil Fact: With just 780 pencils you could draw a continuous line that would circle the globe.

 

[NeverAmI]

Here we are:

 

[BigApplePi]

lol

I can only write neat with pencils. My handwriting with a pen (ball point) suffers significantly.

I think it's all down to the amount of friction. I prefer pencils anyway, they're more user friendly



Random Pencil Fact: With just 780 pencils you could draw a continuous line that would circle the globe.

H. Try a Cross ball pen. Writes easy and smoothly. I prefer fine point. Cost is around $20.

 

[Hawkeye]

H. Try a Cross ball pen. Writes easy and smoothly. I prefer fine point. Cost is around $20.

I'll have a look into more up market pens. My current pen cost 30p (48¢)

Urrggh, this Penagain looks horrible.

Spoiler

 

[BigApplePi]

I'll have a look into more up market pens. My current pen cost 30p (48¢)

Urrggh, this Penagain looks horrible.

Spoiler

I have tins on my desk full of ball pens. Cost? Zero. I get them at show exhibitions. Today I was at the "Home" show. Every other booth had pens to give away. I'm proud of myself. I decided not to take any. After a few weeks, none of them write.

H: How do you do your pen trick? Wires? -- Unless you plan to demo it to us some day.

 

[Hawkeye]

I have tins on my desk full of ball pens. Cost? Zero. I get them at show exhibitions. Today I was at the "Home" show. Every other booth had pens to give away. I'm proud of myself. I decided not to take any. After a few weeks, none of them write.

H: How do you do your pen trick? Wires? -- Unless you plan to demo it to us some day.

haha, I'll find a way to upload it some how (It really is nothing special though. You'll figure it out quickly. ^^). I need a webcam. Thinking about it, I should have some somewhere from a robot project that I never really started.

I wonder where they are

 

[aracaris]

I was thinking about how terrible my handwriting was, yet I'm very obstinate concerning my spelling and grammar while typing.

I was curious to find out if other INTP's also have bad handwriting, and if you do what's the reason?

Yeah, mine's awful, go figure I can type and draw just fine, but I have a really hard time writing.

 

[KazeCraven]

Yep, my letters are typically above and below the line.

It's strange that so many of you are left handed

I think lefties have more to say on the issue...

Or perhaps lefties are overrepresented on forums, hiding from the cruel right-handed reality. No wonder I don't see more of you guys in RL (right life).

 

[ijustprotectedmyidentity]

what the fuck is so hard about writting neatly and legibly seriosly

 

[aracaris]

what the fuck is so hard about writting neatly and legibly seriosly

For those of us whom lack decent handwriting the question is "how can people manage to do something well that seems so impossibly hard"

In the past I tried and tried to write legibly but just have never been able to.

Something about the combination of the motion it requires, and the way a pencil has to be held also really hurts my wrist so bad too, and causes my hand to cramp up, so I've decided it's not really worth the pain at this point.
I even thought maybe I could approach writing like how I approach drawing and make it work, but I've never been able to trick my brain into it.
I bet that the brain activity that goes on when drawing is quite different than the brain activity that goes on when writing.

 

[Branden]

My situation is exactly the same. I am rather meticulous about my typing in most situations. My handwriting however........... Suffice to say that i am sometimes perplexed by my own class notes at times(most of them)

(oddrandomsidenote), I had forgotten how cool everyone's avatars were on this forum.

 

[ijustprotectedmyidentity]

oh branden we know that your subtly trying to get us to look at your avatar.

and it is awesome wowoow thats cool where is it from?

seriosly wats so hard about writting lol ffs atleast were not writtin in chinese

 

[Branden]

oh branden we know that your subtly trying to get us to look at your avatar.

and it is awesome wowoow thats cool where is it from?

seriosly wats so hard about writting lol ffs atleast were not writtin in chinese

thanks..
Actually it was only as i was perusing this thread did i then see JNX's avatar and suddenly crave a cool one of my own. I then resorted to my handy special pic collection folder and choose this one to be mine. Unfortunately i acquired it so long ago i actually have no idea where it came from. lol

 

[walfin]

Handwriting is considered by graphologists to be a reflection of personality. It has been used to predict criminal tendencies with some success.

The "untidy handwriting" of many INTPs is due to the typical "thread" connections of the quick thinker, as opposed to garland, angle and arcade connections of other types.

There used to be a graphology thread somewhere around started by yours truly which has kind of died due to lack of updates. I wouldn't mind doing one or two, though.

 

[BigApplePi]

Here is The Graphology Thread

I ran a test message and it was rejected. I'll bet you can revive it though with a legit message. In a day or so the moderators can approve reopening it.

 

[reprographist]

My handwriting is horrid. Very sloppy. When I write letters it takes me a long time because I feel that I have to write slowly to try to make my words legible. I don't write letters too often anymore. Btw, I'm right handed.

 

[Anling]

My handwriting is always legible. Though I often write very small. Also, I do calligraphy.

Edit: Right handed.

 

[Crazythinker1]

My handwriting is small, cramped, and almost totaly unintelligible to everyone else but me and somtimes even I wonder WTF. In college many of my professors banned me from writing anything in thier class, Only problem was my typing is just as bad.

 

[asmit127]

I'm a rightie and my writing is as everyone's should be - legible and pretty fast. What's the point in spending time making a letter look good when it will likely only be read once? Of course spelling, grammar and punctuation should be perfect (I get distracted by the slightest error while reading anything and wouldn't the reading of my writing to be interrupted by such things) even though the youth of today barely know the meaning of the last two, but that's another rant

That said, I must admit that I'd love to be able to write in proper script with excess loops purely for birthday cards and the like but no matter how much I try the same letter never looks the same twice!

 

[Anchorite]

I always get complemented on my handwriting. If you've ever looked at a handwritten letter or document by Thomas Jefferson, that's very similar to how I write. Although, some of the letters do mesh together and if I'm in a hurry a lot is completely unintelligible to other people.
The only real problem with my handwriting is that it's significantly smaller and more compact than most peoples, so if I have to write a page long paper in my notebook, I have to write more stuff for a longer period of time than others do. Sometimes I consider that a plus though.

 

[EditorOne]

My handwriting is fine, just suffers a bit if I have to take notes for a long time, get cramps. Do they still teach this in school, handwriting? Mine still looks like I'm in third grade and worried about getting an A in penmanship.​

 

[peu4000]

Depending on the type of utensil used, and the softness of the writing surface, I have pretty bad hand writing.

Looks much better with a pen on a hard desk.

 

[ckm]

I'm left-handed. My handwriting changes with the subject, the paper I'm writing on, the pen, the state of my hand, how fast I'm writing and my mood. There are more factors, I imagine. It changes many times each day (assuming I'm in school/writing for some other reason).

However I am extremely concerned with the aesthetic aspect of my handwriting. It's often messy, but this infuriates me because once I'm in the physical "mode" of writing a certain way I can't seem to change it. It just changes by itself eventually.

 

[Cati]

. What's the point in spending time making a letter look good when it will likely only be read once?

You have to make it look good so it can be read at least once.

I too suffer from poor handwriting, though it is better if I use a pencil. I am also right-handed, which seems to be somewhat of a rarity here. Go figure.

 

[White Rabbit]

Drastically ever-changing, from extremely neat, under exact angle, to a mess that I can't recognize.

 

[shadowdrums4]

I'm left handed, and my hand writting is terrible. My teacher in music theory teases me all the time for it. Once he wanted me to put an answer up but he had my friend beside me "interpret" my answer. I actually get kind of worried every time I go to write out music because sometimes, even when I'm really focusing on drawing the notes around the line, I end up in the space above or below it, then I erase and do it again. There's this commercial that keeps coming on for a learning center that starts "All kids have trouble staying in the lines but after a certain age it could be a learning disablility" I'm pretty sure I don't have one of those but it runs through my head every time that happens. I have trouble staying in the lines in coloring books too.

They tease me at work about my handwriting too. I mean none of us there have great handwriting but B said "Well hey mine's gotten better" and my boss said "Compared to Shadow's, hers is a freaking nightmare" Also I lost five points on a math test with a note that said "How am I supposed to follow this?" Then when going over the test, she worked that problem and made it a point to say "Everyone see how neat and organized this work is and easy to follow?" and had me show my paper to the class. Anyone else do this in math> I basically put my next step wherever there is room and I've noticed I go at a downward angle when I write. When taking notes I write without looking but otherwise I can stay in the line decently, all the letters just change shape.

I write best on lined paper with one of those huge kindergarden pencils. That's kind of strange because I have pretty small hands, but normal sized pencils don't work well for me. In second grade I actually figured out how to make handwriting neat but it's not quick enough for me and I can always type it later if it's something for a teacher, most of them can read it anyway.

Steps to good handwriting \:
1. Stay in a straight line (in between the lines on lined paper)
2. Stay within the margins
3. Keep letters the same size, with capital letters bigger.
4. lower-case letters take up halfway to the top line, capital take up all of the line

It was too much work though, mindless scrawling in an attempt to improve it really only lasted about 10 minutes before I got bored and tried to finish quickly which led to crappy handwriting but as many words as the person wanted. In an essay situation I have to keep up with my brain which means faster writing which means worse handwriting. The vicious cycle continues.

 

[intuitivet]

I write kind of neatly (right handed). I go above and below the line and my hand writing is a bit strange (I never put dots on the 'i's and my 'd's don't have feet at the back, more like tadpoles). I had terrible handwriting and spelling but trained myself to be better because you get marked down for bad 'communication' in exams over here *grumbles*

 

[reprographist]

I wouldn't really have expected to relate personality types to handwriting

hmmm

 

[anemian]

I'm goony handed, whichever hand I use for learning something is the one I'll always use.

Left: eating(Mom's fault), screw driver, wrenches, and a few other things I can't think about
Right: writing, hammer, throwing, guns.

 

[emiiee]

I write horribly with my right hand. It's more like a scrawl. But when I use both hands I can reflect what I am writing backwards with my left hand. But that's only when I am writing with both hands at the same time. I can only write backwards with my left hand.

 

[imchristinak]

It's barely legible. It's for people who have more time to read that I have time to write.

 

[s0nystyle]

I have horrible hand writing.
Speed > Prettiness of writing

Personally i believe speed+Pretty writing= win

At any rate, my handwriting has been complimented by many as being pretty but illegible

 

[KazeCraven]

Personally i believe speed+Pretty writing= win

At any rate, my handwriting has been complimented by many as being pretty but illegible

I can see that happening.