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it's not! It's quite hard to make out though - are you from the UK - I thought you sounded northern? ours seem particularly bad, I wonder if the poor connections are to blame.

Noddy, thank you for your OP which was a genuine attempt to address constructively the issue a lot of us are grappling with. I was touched that you named me on your list. If anything proves how welcoming this forum is to stray INTPs it is the way you've all made space for this opinionated...

I'm having deja vu

Being John Malkovich (worth seeing just for the puppeteer scenes) Delicatessen The Big Lebowski (well it's not 'light' and it does have the most uses of the word 'f***' and it's a bloody funny film) Shallow Grave

That was a lot harder than I thought it would be.:o Anyway - it's there, it's terrible quality, but it is me.

Quote: Originally Posted by Morgoth I could sure as hell try! Or maybe I'll just max out the cute factor and make his head explode with rainbows...

[snowqueen remembers why she cares] [Melkor is nicer to be around than the Beast who views INTPs with contempt but somehow can't leave us alone] [sits down next to Melkor while he's tripping] [wipes a little bit of dribble from the side of Melkor's mouth] ... sigh:(

It's hypocritical to imagine that any of us do not act out of judgement and prejudice. I know one poster on here who shall probably best remain nameless who complains bitterly about SJ's but for whom that appears to be a very personal paranoia rather than an attempt to dominate. Also others...

As Nils Bohr said, “No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical.” Sit back and watch fascism develop. It's quite seductive isn't it, the idea of being a 'Master Race'? Either left or right, it's always the same: "All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others" Pure...

I am much better at spotting other people's emotions than my own. I am no good at emotional manipulation though. I'm no good at any manipulation but I do like to mess around with students' minds in terms of challenging their thinking. But that's not manipulating. I don't like to play games...

You're the only other person I've met who's heard of that film. It's hilarious!! [waves] hi deadhorace! nice to see you here, hope you stick around! Bom Bom El Perro Volver Eagle vs Shark Den Brysomme Mannen (The Bothersome Man) A Complete History of My Sexual Failures Couscous Solaris...

Hello Melkor, Here's a little rabbit stew for you and a chip buttie on the side. [wipes the glue out of Melkor's eyes] that seems a little unnecessary. [wonders why she cares at all]

Ah - that's just made me realise something! Last year I won a hugely prestigious award and I was really excited for about 5 minutes - actually mostly surprise - and then it died away and then people started going on and on about for weeks and I just felt embarrassed because I couldn't keep...

Re: Absence of the forum I take it all back. BT came and fixed the line! On a Sunday.

Re: Absence of the forum In case you hadn't picked it up my phone connection has been broken (a BT engineer was seen operating in the area just before it broke :mad::mad: No idea when it'll be mended but I doubt it will be imminent in this godforsaken country where 'customer service' means...

Hi Malkavian Welcome. contrary to popular opinion I am not trying to turn you into a fluffy, heel-kicking, cooing girl.

When years of boarding school never made you feel homesick but one day without a broadband connection at home did. (and you found an excuse to go into work on a Saturday so you could quickly catch up with the forum)

I'm glad you think it might be helpful - it seems to be helping me quite a lot. Yes I know exactly what you mean about the emotional side fighting with the logical side - it makes me feel quite sick thinking about it! I feel like I've been tricked into behaving some way I don't want to...

oh you meant intrinsically as opposed to extrinsically motivated? Yes I think predominantly but there still needs to be some kind of pull from outside ourselves from somewhere in the environment even if that is only something as abstract as an idea we read in a book.

I don't know - maybe, maybe not.

Where do you think she got that idea and vocabulary from (where do we all get it from?) Yes I find slang and small-scale language games fascinating because they do allow different perspectives and are a form of taking control of discourse - nicely subversive.

I think this deserves quoting and highlighting because it's the crux of the matter. It's tempting to imagine that intelligence testing is somehow a value-neutral 'scientific' activity but you cannot truly analyse it without taking into account the social and historical context it emerged in and...

Banana - if you are really going to try to take a different epistemological perspective then you have to move away from your psychological vocabulary - 'arrogant' 'maladapted' etc are still epistemologically psychological. In some ways I think Fleur's story thread is actually a completely...

:D Fury - it's about being logical, not about being right. As long as it gets me pissed I don't care! I'd love to go out for a drink with you one day though. It's one of those stupid things us Scots care about - I expect there's an Irish equivalent. (Although I am only Scottish by...

Re: What has the forum become? I don't. Adair used to be Kaedri

And now I can see that you are another 100% P = see Anthile, it's not just me!

I think the argument against personality disorders is that if you read the psychiatric manuals (DSM-4 for example) which are lists of the signs and symptoms of 'disorders' the ones for PDs are essentially lists of personality characteristics rather than symptoms like those for mental illness...

The tiny bit of F I have feels for you :(:(

There is a really beautiful book by Richard Mabey called 'Nature Cure' which describes one man's journey from depression to health through engaging with nature. I'm currently reading The Wild Places by Robert MacFarlane which is also an incredible read (but a bit frustrating because I just want...

absolutely! made me laugh out loud. You're clearly not Welsh. Ok here's a theory. Many of us INTPs on here have described how damaging forced socialisation has been on us. What if the cultural trend described in the article is actually damaging to other (the majority) types. Perhaps...

No you didn't you said If whisky (not whiskey) is always Scottish and only Scottish whisky can be called Scotch then whiskey can never be Scotch. :):D:) Having said all that. If we're talking blended, I'll go for an Irish whiskey any day over a Scotch. Far superior. The Scots might produce...

oh - and welcome! [sorry - low F syndrome] :-)

on mypersonality it gives you option to choose 'code type'. Rather than html choose the Forum/BB. If you switch to Editor mode on the signature box in the Forum (that's the square with the two A's in it top right) you can paste the code straight into your text box and it should work.

I don't get that high for introversion - though I get 100% on the Paragon test. I do get 100% for P though which is why I've reluctantly realised I need to get the support of Js at work to help realise my projects and keep me on track - though mostly they are pretty friendly towards me as I...

I'm not that high on the Mypersonality test, but I am 100% on the Paragon one. But I am 100% P which is why I've reluctantly realised I need to interact with Js at work to help me realise my projects. Though mostly I have found quite friendly ones who want to support me.

Yours sincerely Pedantry Central :phear:

Whiskey is Irish and whisky is Scottish - aka scotch.

Oh yeah - it's obvious now I know! Yes Dentan - post the link when you do.

it's here

I think we crossed posting then - I absolutely agree with you.

I think you are conflating two arguments here. Yes, I agree that intelligence testing is a dubious practice based as it is on a definition of intelligence largely confined to the ability to carry out complex logical and mathematical analysis (which is why I like the second Bohr quote about...

That doesn't mean that there aren't ideas which are too challenging - just that it isn't worth anything unless it can be communicated - I am sure there are lots of brilliant ideas that can't be communicated which live and die in the minds that conceive them. And maybe they can't be communicated...

^^where did that come from? a link would be appreciated. I'm thinking it's the Paul James portrait? Yes, I wasn't suggesting you weren't INTP - but the bit I'm picking up on is the interest in "possibilities rather than facts" - what people here are reacting to is your tendency to state...

That was a very interesting article - thanks for posting that. I thought the three types of adaptation at the end of the article was interesting. Of course one must remember not to fall into the logical trap of imagining that just because one feels like an Outsider that means one has a high...

code, rules, worldview - I think my fundamental problem is that as an INTP I am tending to make things up as I go along, drawing from whatever seems right at the time. I think the fact that you seem to trying to create a watertight system is what is making a few people here feel J-vibes off...

Hi hope, haven't seen you before so welcome. Yes - that kind of demonstrates the fact that it's more likely to be culturally produced than a product of mental illness.

Absolutely! You've hit the nail on the head. But by putting it into a model like Maslow did turns that into something subtly different - it prescribes the journey - it makes us much more suggestible to the idea that it involves buying cars and houses etc. Actually it can't, because according...

If you want to use your switchblade sarcasm then get over to the 'be mean' thread! I am in desperate need for some decent competition there.