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Technically they do not. In fact, vegans like myself, who don't really care about honey, are on the regular attacked and ousted from the vegan community for having such an attitude. I don't go out of my way to eat honey, but I also don't go out of my way to avoid it. To some, that's about as...

That or vegetable based alcohol/ethanol. But this thread is crazy.

You undermine your words by being a complete douchenozzle. Logical or not, you don't have to be an asshole to win an argument.

Other than being a full on vegan (which I am now), this is the only other real eating philosophy I can get behind. I would only consider eating meat again if I participated in it's killing.

As great of a tool as MBTI is, remember that it's trying to explain the personalities of 7 Billion people in 16 ways. It's a high level tool. It is possible to exist in the margins of types. There are pieces of typical INTP-personality that I identify with 100%, and then there's other...

I know the feeling man. Some days I wake up with an intense sense of purpose and I get shit done. Other days I wake up feeling like a useless pile of dogshit, and the achievement of my day is taking is a shower. Some days I can't even amount to that much. Some days I am positive about...

Everyone has the right to pursue a fulfilling life, but the only people who DESERVE a fulfilling life are the ones who pursue it. Nobody is entitled to fulfillment unless they work for it.

The more relevant question would be: Do you crave RAW meat/fish?

My subjective experience as a vegan is that I suffer no detrimental effects from not having animal products in my diet. So I have no moral justification for consuming animal products. To each their own, but to answer the OP: I ran out of excuses, so I am vegan.

I don't know how to respond to that. Sorry, I guess?

Many times I can remember hanging out with my closest friends, getting drunk and having to stop and just admire the stars. All of them hated when I did this- they didn't understand why I cared. They just wanted to party harder. One of the many things I never understood until I found MBTI's...

Thank whoever discovered fire. Cooking food makes it a lot easier to chew and digest. instead of spending our entire day chewing on leaves like Gorillas, we get all of the calories and many hours of our lives back. My point is that all those vital nutrients that we need, most other mammals...

Most recent dream that stands out: I was on a cruise ship and Donald Trump, who was there, was shot in the head. Being a paramedic, I responded and saved his life. Then he thanked me and brought me up at one of his news conferences. Bizarre.

That's a low bar to set for absurd, lol. Ask yourself- where does my meat get protein? Bulls don't eat meat- I daresay they get enough protein. I've killed a fish in the process of trying to feed myself. I couldn't eat it. Participating in the killing and prepping eliminated my appetite...

Or spend 2 years, 2 months and 2 days at Walden Pond. Come to think of it, was Thoreau an INTP? Sure seems like he might have been.

Double posted >.>

I'm not sure I would concede that killing animals for food is biological either. I've not ever, to my memory, looked at an animal and been struck with the instinct to kill and eat said animal. Maybe the "killer" instinct is variable in different people. But I've only ever felt like a total...

This feel, I know. I want to be a Doctor-Astronaut-Soldier-Entrepreneur-Physicist-Writer-Athlete-Firefighter-Fighter-Engineer-Architect-Evil Genius. So far the entirety of my 20's (Me being 26) have been a long, drawn-out internal debate as to which path to pursue. So far we've...

If you are an American, you enjoy being a global superpower in large part to the economic success of the 19th century, much of which was built on the backs of slaves. That's not a justification for slavery in today's world. Nor is the necessity of killing animals by our ancestors a...

It's not passive-aggression. It's condescension.

Milo is hilarious, well-spoken and doing good work by attacking third-wave feminism. That being said, he is by his own admission not what we think of as a conventional homosexual. Milo is, by his OWN admission, attracted to being taboo. He has a sexual desire to be in the wrong. If you listen...

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Oh man.. this thread. I've been a vegan for 7 years. I have often revisited the issue in my own mind. On one hand, one of my core life philosophical beliefs is to add more value to the world than I take from it. Minimizing my contribution to suffering falls under that umbrella (in my...

I can picture myself, and it's not what I want to look like. I know I have to do it.

Any INTP's who have gone on long term travel? I'm talking about 6 months to a year of round-the-world travel. I've been toying with the idea of travelling the world for several years now, and the older I get, the stronger the urge gets. Recently, I decided to go back to school after much...

In all scenarios, I'd go straight to the person to help.. But I am a paramedic, so I'm comfortable helping injured people. I imagine by feelers he means people with the F tendency instead of T. You know, those pesky people who do nothing in these situations but cry and make things worse :)

I have many outlets, but the frustration of not being perfect at any of them gets .. uhhh.. frustrating. Im not really seeking a creative outlet idea, i have many. I just wanted to see if anyone else feels that very intense, overwhelming feeling of emptiness and uselessness on occasion that...

This is me. I am so unreasonable in the morning. An extra 5 minutes is worth killing somebody when I wake up, though the reasonable me knows it is completely negligible. When I wake up, I'm irrational and angry. I'd love to be able to wake up to the sun every morning, but I can't make...

.. I am. Is this more true for INTPs than other people? I was thinking about this today, and how as INTPs, we largely live our lives in our heads. A lot of the ways I define myself, people would call me out on. For instance, I think of myself as an adventurer and explorer. People would...

Sometimes I feel a very very deep need for some kind of creative outlet. It becomes a bit of an obsession that makes me feel unable to get comfortable. I'll sit for hours wasting away, trying to think of some creative way to let loose. I have no talent for drawing or painting. I do try...

A. I don't know how many can say they've done CPR. In prehospital medicine, the first class they send you to is CPR. Most of the time you go many months before you see one, and you generally are still in training. The first time I actually did CPR, the endorphin rush I had was powerful. I was...

If you're doing CPR they're more or less already dead. CPR is not going to do any further harm than a stopped heart will. And the act of CPR is to use the sternum of the patient to squeeze the heart against the spine. In children, this requires a compression of atleast 2 inches. Ribs will be...

We'll I'll go. I am a firefighter and paramedic, and enjoy both immensely. I enjoy being a paramedic so much, that I'm returning to college and planning on going to med school. I've been doing it for 5 years, and every time I'm on duty is different. This is one of the best parts about it...

Like your original description, I too have massive changes in emotional intensity. Often I will be shuffling through my iPod, and skipping through all the songs until I find one that gives me some kind of emotional satisfaction. Often I have a very deep response. Whether or not that is INTP in...

I think you'll find many people here who have often been called "weird". Myself very much included. Most of us live lives of isolation. Not physically, but mentally and emotionally. I'd wager that even a lot of married INTPs still feel isolated and lonely laying in bed next to their partner...

^ I'm not sure if being a chameleon is an INTP trait, but I am definitely one. Like you, I was able to fit in with any crowd in high school and had friends in all the circles. Even now, I fit in at a fire house, at a corporate office, at a super liberal non-profit, in a classroom, and I have...

I'm surprised at how many stories there are of outbursts in school. I think my father taught me more effective ways of fighting authority. He tended to get very angry, and my brother used to go right back at him, and I watched how it never worked for my brother. So, when my dad would get angry...

That was an excellent read. I love reading these insightful posts that help me understand myself. I often wonder if two INTP's would work out in a relationship. On the surface it seems like it might be a nice fit, but sitting here thinking would I want to date a female version of myself.. I'd...

The night is the best. I wake up early for work, and all I can do is wait for 6pm. Sometimes I even stay at work until 8 or 9pm because I get so much more done once everyone else is gone. No interruptions, I can blast my music, walk around without shoes, rock out my air guitar in the glass...

I think naturally, I'm in sync with everyone else. I much prefer to observe than to participate in high stress situations. Somebody said something interesting though that I find very true. That INTPs might be inclined to step up when nobody else can/does. I can think of many times I have...

Awesome input, thanks. Given some recent discussions with med students I know, and some research into interviews with admissions people, combined with what I am looking for in a major, I have a very strong feeling on an interdisciplinary/unique major offered at Virginia Tech: Bachelor of...

Thank you. Exactly how I do it. Because I just don't want that person to think I did it because they wanted me to. Lest they make a habit of giving me orders.

Actually I think I would enjoy Geology/Earth Science a lot. One of my favorites from high school, even though it was a huge joke. Yea.. too many majors look interesting. Tough to pick. From the sound of it, seems you are either in med school or planning to be.. what's your major?

I never met a standardized test that could handle me. ;) No but really, like most INTPs, I test like a machine. I have a genuine interest in engineering but I can't see myself as an engineer. At the most, I'd like to learn a bit of CAD to design and build some furniture or something. I...

Yea. Like most INTP's, my interests are many, and picking an undergrad is far more difficult than the decision to do med school. I'd like to do an undergrad that applies to medicine, but that is also versatile. I have a lot of friends in med school, and for the most part they say majoring in...

It's all in your viewpoint. I see the upper classes as the parasites; they are reaping the benefits of the labor by their employees and lower class. The dismissal of any challenge of capitalism by claiming any alternative is, of course, as absurd as becoming parasites. I know YOUR nature.

The degree to which it works is highly subjective. Sure, it seems pretty stable, but, in my opinion.. 1000 years from now, capitalism will be scoffed at as a primitive thing. No society that is going to survive in the long term would operate on a system that separates people and causes class...

I was using them as an example. I'll pull the firefighter card then. Not a very cushy job. On average though, they make less than teachers. You are missing my point. Sure in theory, it seems like capitalism works so the people who work the hardest reach the top, and those who don't stay at...

Market value isn't an indication of what is deserved. My point was that for there to be a top 1%, there has to be a lower 99%. For there to be a top 99%, there has to be a bottom 1%. In capitalism, somebody will always get the shaft.

Right, NFL quarterbacks deserve $2,000,000 a year, and high school teachers $50,000 a year. That's exactly what everyone deserves.