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The world needs all kinds of minds

What kind of thinker are you?

  • Visual thinker

    Votes: 5 22.7%
  • Pattern thinker

    Votes: 16 72.7%
  • Verbal thinker

    Votes: 1 4.5%

  • Total voters
    22

flow

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I'm a pattern thinker for sure, great video BTW! I actually randomly stumbled across that movie that's based on her a few weeks ago while watching TV with my Aunt.
 

Sparrow

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I'm not sure...she didn't go in depth about pattern thinking or verbal thinking...I need more info. I can't draw...but I notice details? Lulz.
 

Dormouse

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I am none of these... More like all three squashed together, but with minimal success.
 

Words

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I think I'm capable with all these sorts of thinking; I'm not sure how this would be explained.

Nevertheless, I can definitely relate more to her "Pattern Thinker". My mind explores that area most of the time.

I smiled when she talked about kids watching TED.
 

NeverAmI

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I definitely think in visual terms, but I do all of the above. I can't vote because I don't know which is most dominant. I switch to different ways of thinking depending on the situation.

However, I don't inherently notice perspective (vanishing point), such as for drawing, or distinguish different colors such as shading/reflection.

The mathematical savant Daniel Tammat appears to link visual and pattern.

A lot of stuff she covered seems so obvious. I remember her talking on a short vid about the fear animals experience. I was like, "people don't realize that?"

I like her a lot. Just watching the video is comforting. :D

"Teachers in the Midwest don't know what to do with these kids."

That makes sense.
 

Agent Intellect

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I want to say visual, but for me it's much more of an internal vision. When she mentioned being able to test things in her mind, that sounds very much like how my thinking is. I'm terrible at math and I can't memorize things worth a shit, but I have a very good visual intuition for the interactions of complex systems and physics etc - sometimes it's more like I can "feel" how something like evolution or relativity or social networks operate, able to picture it in my head as a holism. I tested very high as a visual learner at school, too (the other choices being auditory and kinesthetic).

I liked the other underlying message (at least what I got from it) in the video as well. A lot of education (at least in America) is focused on basically one style of teaching and attempting to make a 'standard' for how people should process information. Anything that doesn't fit the mold is considered a learning disability - mild autism, for example. Language is obviously the biggest one, seeing as English and grammar classes required all throughout school. There is also, as many people have pointed out in other threads, a high propensity for extroverted learning styles - group oriented work, classroom lectures (as opposed to independent research and/or small group and one on one learning). The third main aspect of American education is rote memorization, where the ability to regurgitate a bunch of facts onto a test and forget it all right afterwords is the predominate learning style.

EDIT: Excerpt from "Rant" by Chuck Palahniuk about cues for learning styles:
A landmark study, out of Cal State LA in 1967 and proved a bunch of times since then, it says 55 percent of human communication is based on our body language, how we stand or lean or look each other in the eye. Another 38 percent of our communication comes through our tone of voice, the speed we talk, and how loud. The surprise is, only 7 percent of our message comes through our words.

So a smart salesman, his big talent is knowing how to listen.

We call it "pacing" a customer: You match your breathing rate to his breathing. He taps his foot or drums his fingers, you do, too, and match his speed. If he scratches his ear or stretches his neck, you wait twenty seconds and do the same. Listen for his words and watch where his eyes roll as he talks. The majority of customers, they learn through vision, and most times their eyes are looking up - to the left if they're remembering information, but they'll look to their right if they're lying. The next group learns by hearing, and they'll look side to side. The smallest group learns by moving or touching, and they'll look down as they walk.

The visual people will say, "Look," or "I see what you mean." They'll say "I can't picture that," or "see you later."

Your audio customers will say, "Listen," or "That sounds good," or "Talk to you soon." If you talk fast, sound excited, he'll get worked up.

Your touche-based customers will tell you, "I can handle that." They'll say, "Got it," or "Catch you later." He's always tapping you, touching you with his fingers, to make sure you'll listen.

In really effective pacing, a salesman adopts the learning style of the customer - visual or hearing or touch - to the point of looking up or sideways or down at the ground while you talk. Your goal is to establish common ground. Not everybody enjoys baseball or even fishing, but every person is obsessed with themself.

You are your own favorite hobby. You're an expert on you.

All a good salesman does is make eye contact, mimic your body language, nod or laugh or grunt to prove he's spellbound - those noises or gestures, they're called "verbal attends." A salesman only has to prove that he's just as obessed with you as you are with yourself. After that, the two of you share a common passion: you.

Some more reading on the subject.
 

NeverAmI

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I think the primary problem with education is that teachers fucking hate their jobs. At least most of them.

Understandably so if you look at the idiot metrics generic managers like to apply to measure "job performance." Course, this is all just speculative, I haven't done any research whatsoever.
 

ckm

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One of her books is somewhere around the house, though I haven't read it. I can't classify myself, to be honest. I'm biased against verbal thinkers, probably because they're the majority. That said, I'm quite confident I'm not a visual thinker; I'm either verbal or pattern.

I have to say, visual thinking screams of extroverted sensing.
 

walfin

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That thing about videos - that's exactly how I explained it to someone a while ago.

But I like algebra. Perhaps it's possible to have a combination of two thinking styles?

What about thinking in concepts? Seems to be entirely distinct (though possibly related to pattern).
 

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I often describe myself as a pattern thinker and I'm also described a pattern thinker, it was really no contest.
 
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