Vrecknidj
Prolific Member
I ran into an interesting argument the other day and it seemed like the kind of thing that INTPs generally would appreciate. We are, after all, a bunch of folks who sometimes slide toward the morbid.
Claim: Everyone who successfully committed suicide shouldn't have.
Okay, that's it. This is where the fun begins. First of all, there are going to be those in support of the claim. After all, if death is bad then suicide is bad and if killing is bad then suicide is bad. Second, there are going to be those who deny the claim. There will be arguments for things like euthanasia from mercy killings to physician-assisted suicides and everything in between. Heck, there might even be some folks who will argue that some folks who committed suicide made the world a better place by taking themselves out of the world.
But, where things get even more interesting is when we consider the ambiguity of the phrase "suicide prevention." After all, one thing we might mean by "suicide prevention" is that people should prevent others from killing themselves. We can call this the "take the gun from his hand" version of suicide prevention.
Another thing we might mean by "suicide prevention" is that people should be concerned with others' welfare such that they'll intervene, so that people who might otherwise end up attempting suicide are affected so that they no longer have that desire. We might call this the "preemptive solution" version of suicide prevention.
I think that's suitable to get the conversation flowing.
Dave
Claim: Everyone who successfully committed suicide shouldn't have.
Okay, that's it. This is where the fun begins. First of all, there are going to be those in support of the claim. After all, if death is bad then suicide is bad and if killing is bad then suicide is bad. Second, there are going to be those who deny the claim. There will be arguments for things like euthanasia from mercy killings to physician-assisted suicides and everything in between. Heck, there might even be some folks who will argue that some folks who committed suicide made the world a better place by taking themselves out of the world.
But, where things get even more interesting is when we consider the ambiguity of the phrase "suicide prevention." After all, one thing we might mean by "suicide prevention" is that people should prevent others from killing themselves. We can call this the "take the gun from his hand" version of suicide prevention.
Another thing we might mean by "suicide prevention" is that people should be concerned with others' welfare such that they'll intervene, so that people who might otherwise end up attempting suicide are affected so that they no longer have that desire. We might call this the "preemptive solution" version of suicide prevention.
I think that's suitable to get the conversation flowing.
Dave