We INTPs are assholes

[SpaceYeti]

1) We're constantly bitching about our depression. What the hell?! Why are we depressed? Why take the precious time out of our day when we could be having fun and feel depressed? Do something! God am I glad I hung out with other types, who groomed me for social interaction and taking initiative. Without it, would I be like you jerks?

2) Why the hell do we split the fuck out of hairs instead of dealing with the actual point being made? Okay, so the shade of meaning may be off, but correcting the unspecific should be secondary to the actual point being made! If you're going to argue about something, argue about the substance of the post, insofar as you can understand it without slicing apart hairs.

3) We doubt reality just as much, if not more, than we try to understand reality! I won't lie, I went through my "everything I perceive could be an illusion" chain of thoughts just like everyone else eventually does. However, even if the whole world you perceive in fact is an illusion, that's the world you have to deal with by necessity! Even if it's not the real one, until a reason to suspect it's not comes along, it's the one you have! Deal with it.

 

[Oblivious]

Just what was the point of this thread?

People have the right to discuss their own emotions without jerks like you kicking them when they are down. intps above other types need to be able to discuss these sort of issues in a safe environment with supportive people who can understand what they are thinking. These people do not exist in real life for many of us, so just back the fuck off. The only asshole I see around here is You, and you are a big one.

I've never started a personal depression thread, but vulnerable people need to talk to people who understand them. If you don't like that, get the fuck off this forum, and take your atheist bullshit with you.

 

[TruthSeeker]

1) We're constantly bitching about our depression. What the hell?! Why are we depressed? Why take the precious time out of our day when we could be having fun and feel depressed? Do something! God am I glad I hung out with other types, who groomed me for social interaction and taking initiative. Without it, would I be like you jerks?

2) Why the hell do we split the fuck out of hairs instead of dealing with the actual point being made? Okay, so the shade of meaning may be off, but correcting the unspecific should be secondary to the actual point being made! If you're going to argue about something, argue about the substance of the post, insofar as you can understand it without slicing apart hairs.

3) We doubt reality just as much, if not more, than we try to understand reality! I won't lie, I went through my "everything I perceive could be an illusion" chain of thoughts just like everyone else eventually does. However, even if the whole world you perceive in fact is an illusion, that's the world you have to deal with by necessity! Even if it's not the real one, until a reason to suspect it's not comes along, it's the one you have! Deal with it.

I admit I am very guilty of the first two. And I'm trying to stop. But number three just doesn't apply to me. At all. Yeah, I probably asked the question once or twice as a kid (just like "what if my yellow is your green", like everyone else does) but I didn't give much thought to it. I was always so confused when my old INTP metaphysics professor constantly referred to the possibility that we could not understand the nature of reality "worrying" (okay, maybe because it was his "profession", but still). I just didn't get it. Yeah, it could be true, but what would the entity that set up the illusion gain from it? No offense, it's great to ask questions, but isn't the thought that someone set up the whole universe just for you a little arrogant? Isn't it much more plausible that we actually are here? So why worry about weird, incredibly unlikely possibilities? Use that tertiary Si to keep Ti-Ne in check!

 

[SpaceYeti]

Just what was the point of this thread?

People have the right to discuss their own emotions without jerks like you kicking them when they are down. intps above other types need to be able to discuss these sort of issues in a safe environment with supportive people who can understand what they are thinking. These people do not exist in real life for many of us, so just back the fuck off. The only asshole I see around here is You, and you are a big one.

I've never started a personal depression thread, but vulnerable people need to talk to people who understand them. If you don't like that, get the fuck off this forum, and take your atheist bullshit with you.

Okay, firstly, this post was primarily tongue in cheek. I like to laugh at myself, I presumed other people did too. I guess I was wrong.

Secondly, what does my atheism have to do with any of this? Do my rational arguments bother you?

 

[TruthSeeker]

It might have been tongue and cheek, but I really do think we have to stop correcting people's grammar all the time. Not only is it insensitive, it's fruitless.

You may have meant it as a joke, but I honestly believe the last two are valid points.

And up till now I thought the phrase "INTP atheist" was redundant. Guess I was wrong.

 

[ProxyAmenRa]

My friend insists we play 2 v 2 games of starcraft 2, he tells me he has improved but all he ever does in the game is fuck up continuously. I tell him they are two gating so all he builds are 6 lings, no spine crawlers and not even a queens. BAM he is dead. 2 v 1 is a bit unbalanced. BAM i am dead and my record get worse. He just fucks up!!! Then when he doesnt die in the first two minutes he does fucking nothing!! Fucking nothing for the whole damn game! Fuck I hate loosing when it is recorded! RAGE

Hell, I dont mind loosing if it was a fun game but playing with mr fuck up and stagnate just isnt fun.

Ohh god now he is tearing up after I told him how bad he really is.

Incompetence pisses me off.

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Now back to your post.

Perhaps they are all depressed because they are lacking a basic necessity of longevity, adequate relationships.

 

[Oblivious]

I will not mince any words with assholes who toy with the honest feelings of others. I do not give a damn about your failure at humour, but considering the fact that there are people who genuinely need help here, that was completely insensitive.

Don't think you can save your position by being 'rational'; plenty of people here already seen and used the same arguments you've used a thousand times over in the past on this very forum. It's honestly just tired. Most people here will not have the heart to scold you as I have, but believe me you deserve much more for your insensitivity.

 

[Words]

1) We're constantly bitching about our depression. What the hell?! Why are we depressed? Why take the precious time out of our day when we could be having fun and feel depressed? Do something! God am I glad I hung out with other types, who groomed me for social interaction and taking initiative. Without it, would I be like you jerks?

It's not necessarily a case you can control. In addition, depression is not necessarily linked to social interaction.

2) Why the hell do we split the fuck out of hairs instead of dealing with the actual point being made? Okay, so the shade of meaning may be off, but correcting the unspecific should be secondary to the actual point being made! If you're going to argue about something, argue about the substance of the post, insofar as you can understand it without slicing apart hairs.

Are you referring to nitpicking?

If so, my answer:
To what goal? I find accuracy to be vastly important in the realms of searching for answers. Variables widen when there are no definitions and groundwork to rely on. I think this should be understood by the people who "split their hairs" as a result.

3) We doubt reality just as much, if not more, than we try to understand reality! I won't lie, I went through my "everything I perceive could be an illusion" chain of thoughts just like everyone else eventually does. However, even if the whole world you perceive in fact is an illusion, that's the world you have to deal with by necessity! Even if it's not the real one, until a reason to suspect it's not comes along, it's the one you have! Deal with it.

You don't necessarily need to live in just one dimension and on one possibility(Ne). Or else you lose your openness and restrict your perception to just one worldview(Si). Einstein himself once lost a valuable key by believing that the universe cannot be continuously expanding.

Of course, there are so many possibilities but we can work with that, right?

To the bold part: Reality has its own semantic problems. Even though let's say we have an objective standard of reality, I could say my perception has less assumptions than most. How people perceive this "common reality" still factor to its own relativity. And then there's the definitional problem of what is objective reality. So then we have the subject and the object to add more relativity.

 

[nexion]

1) We're constantly bitching about our depression. What the hell?! Why are we depressed? Why take the precious time out of our day when we could be having fun and feel depressed? Do something! God am I glad I hung out with other types, who groomed me for social interaction and taking initiative. Without it, would I be like you jerks?

2) Why the hell do we split the fuck out of hairs instead of dealing with the actual point being made? Okay, so the shade of meaning may be off, but correcting the unspecific should be secondary to the actual point being made! If you're going to argue about something, argue about the substance of the post, insofar as you can understand it without slicing apart hairs.

3) We doubt reality just as much, if not more, than we try to understand reality! I won't lie, I went through my "everything I perceive could be an illusion" chain of thoughts just like everyone else eventually does. However, even if the whole world you perceive in fact is an illusion, that's the world you have to deal with by necessity! Even if it's not the real one, until a reason to suspect it's not comes along, it's the one you have! Deal with it.

1. How foolish. Do you honestly think that the source of INTP depression is always going to be lack of social relationships? We don't all have your narrow worldview, where all that really matters is pleasure and happiness. So shut up with your shit.

2. What Words said. Definition and semantics are important in any area of knowledge. If the shade of meaning is even a bit off, then the person could be reaching a wrong conclusion.

3. Yeah? I think we have a right to sometimes doubt existence, since sometimes things just don't make sense or seem real. It is only sometimes during moments of great revelation that I somewhat doubt reality and ask myself if all this is real. Does it look real? Besides that, who really cares? No one would think it detrimental to my health or function if I sometimes perceive that the world may not exist. Yeah, we still have to live in it, but you're not really getting the point. What if?

 

[Minuend]

*Gives Oblivious gold star in secret*

SpaceYeti, if you post something as a joke you should express yourself differently than when you write your opinion.

Maybe you somewhat do, but I for one am not so perceptive as to notice the difference.

Plenty of people here will laugh at themselves, but not in response to "stop being depressed, asshole".

No offense, it's great to ask questions, but isn't the thought that someone set up the whole universe just for you a little arrogant?

I would rather be inclined to believe that I'm hallucinating, which doesn't require the universe to spin around me.

 

[Silas]

Btw, I'm sure this has been brought up before, but even if one were to experience 'passing' into another reality, (lets call it reality no.2) there's nothing to really stop a person thinking through the whole skeptical "but what if it was just an perceived experience, is this 'reality no.2' still just a perception? etc etc etc

Also, I agree to the refutes from others to the OP (I just irritated you all putting that, didn't I?)
Bleh.

 

[Words]

Btw, I'm sure this has been brought up before, but even if one were to experience 'passing' into another reality, (lets call it reality no.2) there's nothing to really stop a person thinking through the whole skeptical "but what if it was just an perceived experience, is this 'reality no.2' still just a perception? etc etc etc

Are you thinking Inception?

 

[snafupants]

To the OP, with numbers two and three, it seems ironic that you would be calling other people out on this. My attempts to cajole you into believing what you apparently believe in number three - but seldom endorse in your posts - seemed to have been epically failing, but your conclusion proves otherwise. Finally, number one. There are a slew of reasons one could be depressed - existential, neurochemical, environmental - thus, the advice of do something seems shallow and trite. Being around other people makes me depressed, not the inverse. Also, people talk about depression because it could be an edifying tale of what not to do for others, although some probably do it to vent about the ills of the world or their recent breakup or some damned thing.

 

[Fukyo]

Reminiscent of bluesquid.

I wonder if Adymus will come in barging next.

 

[DesertSmeagle]

Ya. I bitch alot. sorry. I just dont know what to do i guess. Ive tried everything and nothing works..I guess the big thing is misery loves company..When were miserable or theres something wrong with us, we try to find other people with the same status so we dont feel alone, then it makes us feel less bad about ourselves.But this isnt really a conscious decision, we just do it as a way to relieve stress unconsciously..And for the people that dont do anything about it its probably because they have tried things in the past and had negative experiences with it, and theyve given up. Im almost to that point.
Ya i started a thread about questioning reality..why not? Its a cool thought.

 

[Agent Intellect]

I thought this thread was funny.

 

[flow]

I actually agree, we should all stop being depressed assholes.

*goes outside*

 

[nexion]

I actually agree, we should all stop being depressed assholes.

*goes outside*

I thought this was quite humorous. Such subtle yet defined sarcasm.

 

[Yasmin]

I am an asshole.

But that is so not why.

 

[DesertSmeagle]

im an asshole to people that are stupid..i just have trouble respecting people who are retarded retards..last year in my senior year of hs all year in my history class we got randomly grouped with a study partner and i got this stupid ultra fat idiot kid.Hed probably test as an intp because he liked to pretend that he was smart, and pretended to be a philosopher when nothing he said made any sense. hed take the MBTI test chosing his ideal traits..He actually thought he was right most the time and acted like a scientist using big words he didnt know the meaning of..i HATE people like that.

 

[nexion]

im an asshole to people that are stupid..i just have trouble respecting people who are retarded retards..last year in my senior year of hs all year in my history class we got randomly grouped with a study partner and i got this stupid ultra fat idiot kid.Hed probably test as an intp because he liked to pretend that he was smart, and pretended to be a philosopher when nothing he said made any sense. hed take the MBTI test chosing his ideal traits..He actually thought he was right most the time and acted like a scientist using big words he didnt know the meaning of..i HATE people like that.

They are, without a doubt, the worst. Chance would have it that, when a group is to be created in my classes, I either end up with these types of people or people who don't even seem to be phased by the fact that they are utterly ignorant of everything, despite the fact that they are full-aware of such. But this type of person you describe... sometimes I have a feeling I am that type of person, and the fact that nobody understands what I am saying serves as some evidence. Yet, in light of that, I wonder if most of the people that I know are so dumb as to not have understood the true genius of my words, so I am utterly confused and lose thought of whether or not I have the right to be a pretentious asshole.

 

[DesertSmeagle]

They are, without a doubt, the worst. Chance would have it that, when a group is to be created in my classes, I either end up with these types of people or people who don't even seem to be phased by the fact that they are utterly ignorant of everything, despite the fact that they are full-aware of such. But this type of person you describe... sometimes I have a feeling I am that type of person, and the fact that nobody understands what I am saying serves as some evidence. Yet, in light of that, I wonder if most of the people that I know are so dumb as to not have understood the true genius of my words, so I am utterly confused and lose thought of whether or not I have the right to be a pretentious asshole.

I know exactly what your talkin about. Im the same way. That ultra fat kid i was talkin about seemed completely ignorant of all logic and anything around him..And theres this other kid i know who is completely retarded to ..he got an 800 on his SAT. I know the SAT isnt a perfect measure of intelligence but cmon..He was one of those kids that clinged on to you and was completely unaware that he was stupid and unaware that i couldnt stand him.. it makes me wonder how some people can be so stupid..This same kid has now graduated hs with me and choses to not go to college, but instead become a construction worker or cashier and stay in hs for the rest of his life spreadin the word of God to troubled students.
That is a really scary thought that im one of those people haha..its either im ignorant and simple minded or im surrounded by idiots..im pretty sure im surrounded by idiots haha. hopefully there are more interesting people in college. In hs i was surrounded by stupid jocks and retarded kids. I knew like 3 people who werent complete morons.

 

[nexion]

I literally hate everyone in my high school. There isn't anyone there who has a trace of intelligence. Well, about like you said, perhaps no more than five. In the entire. Fucking. School. College holds some form of hope for me, both in the indulgence of nothing except knowledge and the prospect of knowing someone in real life who can finally relate to me on a deeply intimate and intellectual manner. Even if it be only one person, my life wouldn't suck so much. Leaving this shitty town, being entirely uninhibited and not obligated by any social events... you could call college my messiah complex.

By the way, I'm also inclined to believe that everyone around me is an idiot. But sometimes my severity of self-doubt overtakes any semblance of logic.

 

[Chimera]

I thought this thread was funny.

Seconded.
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I thought this was quite humorous. Such subtle yet defined sarcasm.

...but that's not why. Even if the op was really intended as sarcasm.
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[nexion]

Seconded.





...but that's not why. Even if the op was really intended as sarcasm.
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I was only talking about the post I quoted bro.

 

[Chimera]

I was only talking about the post I quoted bro.

I accidentally took it out of context, sorry if that offended you. :l
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[nexion]

I accidentally took it out of context, sorry if that offended you. :l
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No, it is ok. Accidents happen. It is not within myself to easily be offended. I wasn't even offended by the OP, but I still didn't like it.

 

[Riiscup]

I actually thought this thread was really funny too! Here you are trying to pull us all out of the ditch by basically telling us to wake up and stop taking things overly serious and, boy, did that backfire.

1) Space, I don't like being depressed, it just happens. Sometimes talking about what's bothering me helps though. This forum allows for us to vent things that may bother us with people who are like us and think similarly as ourselves. We presume they would understand us here, not put us down like most everyone else does. I agree that taking time out of our precious day for depression is fruitless, but unfortunately sometimes we can't help it. Hopefully, talking about it here will lessen the amount of precious time we waste.

2) I agree with others here that believe clarification and accuracy is a requirement for understanding. Things can be interpreted so many different ways based on one word change. So the the splitting of hairs may be required to fully understand what the problem is before you can address the problem. Wouldn't want inaccurate advice, right? But I understand what you mean too.

3) We have no choice but to deal in the reality in which we live, but why can't we question it? It's fun and mentally stimulating. Chill out and let us be, jeez!

I didn't get upset about your post though. I got the whole laugh at myself thing.

 

[UptownHarmlessPantyHose]

I woud definitely be a raging pain in the ass if I just allowed myself to be how I really AM, naturally.

I wouldn't pay any attention to my HUMAN form lol, I would exist only in my mind and I wouldn't care what I said to other people.

I still have some of these qualities because it's who I am but i make an effort to control it and go out on a limb sometimes to do things that I wouldn't normally do, try to understand things that don't come naturally to me because it's a learning experience.

I think it's good to be around other types. My ex was an INTx and we were very much lost in our own world together. We made perfect sense to each other but seemed very rude and disengaged to others most of the time.

Regardless, I don't believe that my true goal in life will ever be to be understood by other people. I care more about learning and taking in information, but I do feel that's it important to try and spread positive energy, even if people don't get me.

 

[SpaceYeti]

I will not mince any words with assholes who toy with the honest feelings of others. I do not give a damn about your failure at humour, but considering the fact that there are people who genuinely need help here, that was completely insensitive.

Don't think you can save your position by being 'rational'; plenty of people here already seen and used the same arguments you've used a thousand times over in the past on this very forum. It's honestly just tired. Most people here will not have the heart to scold you as I have, but believe me you deserve much more for your insensitivity.

Oh no, I was insensitive! Call the PC police!

You haven't scolded me, you've been an emotional jerk. There's a world of difference. Don't like what I post, don't read it. That way you're ignoring my tired old arguments more directly.

 

[snafupants]

SpaceYeti is one tough customer!

 

[SpaceYeti]

I also agree that clarification is necessary. As I said; 'tongue in cheek'. I do notice that the desire to clarify detracts from the actual conversation sometimes, however. Hence making fun of it.

I would have never suspected INTPs would be so emotional like this. That surprised me. You know what, I'll officially apologize for the first one. I'm sorry. I've never suffered from depression, so I never considered how serious it might be for someone who does suffer it. However, I've certainly done the second two, and I stand by what I said as a half-truth/half-joke.

 

[nexion]

Oh no, I was insensitive! Call the PC police!

You haven't scolded me, you've been an emotional jerk. There's a world of difference. Don't like what I post, don't read it. That way you're ignoring my tired old arguments more directly.

Then it is clear that you haven't realized much of what he said. You are tampering with things you should not be tampering with. Emotion requires no critical analysis, no purpose, and no justification. It is simply because it is. You are the one being a jerk. Some people really and honestly suffer with depression, and seek out people who understand them, and could perhaps help them. The last thing they need is for someone to kick them when they're most vulnerable. Oblivious was fully justified in everything he said.

 

[nexion]

I also agree that clarification is necessary. As I said; 'tongue in cheek'. I do notice that the desire to clarify detracts from the actual conversation sometimes, however. Hence making fun of it.

I would have never suspected INTPs would be so emotional like this. That surprised me. You know what, I'll officially apologize for the first one. I'm sorry. I've never suffered from depression, so I never considered how serious it might be for someone who does suffer it. However, I've certainly done the second two, and I stand by what I said as a half-truth/half-joke.

Hm. Very well, I will concede to this.

INTP's are not emotional. Humans are emotional. Even in the core of an INTP, emotions run, and run deep indeed. If you haven't realized this, I don't think you have any right to talk concerning INTP's and emotion. As if we are just beings of pure logic and rationality. How could anyone live like that?

 

[UptownHarmlessPantyHose]

For what's it worth, I had no trouble seeing the tongue and cheek implications of this post and did not find it offensive.

Then again, I don't really struggle with depression and am probably too emotionally deficient to be offended by much.

I'm not seeing exactly where this all went to hell, from what I can tell people are offended by your OP but I don't think you said anything to further offned people in your replies.

 

[nexion]

Don't mind what I say in this thread too much then. I rarely laugh sincerely at humor. There's no way I could laugh at myself. I hate myself. There's nothing funny or comical about who I am.

 

[Words]

I also agree that clarification is necessary. As I said; 'tongue in cheek'. I do notice that the desire to clarify detracts from the actual conversation sometimes, however. Hence making fun of it.

I would have never suspected INTPs would be so emotional like this. That surprised me. You know what, I'll officially apologize for the first one. I'm sorry. I've never suffered from depression, so I never considered how serious it might be for someone who does suffer it. However, I've certainly done the second two, and I stand by what I said as a half-truth/half-joke.

Man, I did not get any humor in that (no offense). I mean the fact that those situations do exist in reality and the fact that so many threads were made eons ago concerning the same concerns and that the fact that those past similar threads weren't actually meant to be light-hearted and the fact that there were even long-winded arguments about them just made the possibility of intended-humor in this a cosmically far possibility. But I guess maybe I'm being fooled by historical relevance and consistency. Perhaps humor shouldn't be analyzed this way. But though it may be subjective, one can still find objective stuff affecting the criteria of 'what is humor'.

Anyways, I hope this doesn't affect your activity in the forum. Whether there was intended humor in it or not, acts need to have counteracts for the sake of balance. Extreme reality can exist in 1 2 and 3(although perhaps a more accurate form) and the emphasis of these 3 points helps to lessen a very likely possibility for this personality type. Or so, I believe. (actually I'm just making up an excuse and the real reason is that I hate inactivity, otherwise known as 'boredom')

 

[Black Rose]

I take medication for depression. Does that make me an asshole? Even If I'm not INTP? Just a question.

 

[Agent Intellect]

I suffer from depression and take medication for it. I split hairs like it's going out of business. And I doubt reality and my own sanity everyday.

But I still found this thread funny.

I think people are reacting to the poster and not what's posted. If Melkor or NoID10t's or someone had made this thread, nobody would have given it a second thought.

 

[Minuend]

Yeah, I agree with that last part, AI. In a way.

From Chewbacca's other posts, one would get the impression that he actually means what he says and that he does find those things pathetic/ annoying. That he sees himself above that. I suppose he doesn't exactly come off as humble.

 

[SpaceYeti]

I am humble. Yet, I also think I'm super awesome. It makes me wonder how incredibly awesome I actually am.

Further, yes, I actually do find those things annoying (though I wouldn't say "pathetic"). Because I actually find something annoying, I can't joke about it, though? If it's not an annoying thing, what is there to make fun of?

 

[snafupants]

Oh, opposite hour. Well, if you are humble then my dancing, cooking, and social skills are second to none!

 

[SpaceYeti]

You should be on iron chef, then!

Further, nobody here has enough knowledge of me to say I'm not awesome. Could it be that the people saying I'm not simply dislike me? You can dislike awesome people. It can happen. That's fine. I'm okay with it. I'm sure you all, being INTPs, simply don't like the competition I represent, especially since you'll lose. I mean, who else is awesome enough to make fun of himself by saying he's awesome when he knows he's not? That's what makes me awesome.

(don't argue against it, just embrace the nonsense)

 

[Puffy]

Perhaps INTPs are not assholes[?] Maybe I am taking a leap too far.

 

[Deleted member 1424]

Perhaps type does not distinctly relate to whether or not one is an asshole? (that's pretty self-evident right?)

I've met cruel ENFPs and saintlike INTJs. Of course what does and does not count as assholish behavior varies widely among individuals.

 

[thexjib]

I don't know about all INTPs but I know that I am indeed an asshole. I am an asshole for the very reasons stated above in the OP and also I am an emotionally immature asshole. I blame all of this squarely on my mom. If my mom had been a better mother and raised me right then maybe I wouldn't be such an asshole.

 

[Anthile]

MBTI does not deal in ethical or moral dimensions. Everyone can be Hitler. Everyone can be Hitler. Everyone can be Gandhi. I don't know why people think that MBTI (or typology) explains every aspect of the human psyche. It doesn't. It's not even some cheesy advertising slogan.
The closest you could get to that would be the 'healthiness' of the enneagram but its 'canonicity' as well as its falsifiability and usage are highly debatable.



If you really want to measure evil, you have to, of course, resort to kilonazis:

Spoiler

 

[nexion]

MBTI does not deal in ethical or moral dimensions. Everyone can be Hitler. Everyone can be Hitler. Everyone can be Gandhi. I don't know why people think that MBTI (or typology) explains every aspect of the human psyche. It doesn't. It's not even some cheesy advertising slogan.
The closest you could get to that would be the 'healthiness' of the enneagram but its 'canonicity' as well as its falsifiability and usage are highly debatable.



If you really want to measure evil, you have to, of course, resort to kilonazis:

Spoiler

Alright then on that spoiler...

 

[Inappropriate Behavior]

I'm a dick. Dicks are way better than assholes because we can beat the shit out of them.

Assholes just spout shit and noxious gasses most of the time even after a dick comes along and tears them to pieces. Somewhat resilient I'll grant.

Metaphorically speaking.

 

[EditorOne]

We all can benefit from a little decompression here.

Satire is very hard to put across with nothing but written words. If you just read the scripts for Stephen Colbert and Jon Stewart, for example, you could really get the wrong idea. You need the visuals that go with the delivery to "get it." We lack that on here. It's almost like we need a headline at the top of our attempts at satire that is depressingly utilitarian: SATIRE!

Anyway sometimes an asshole is just the label applied to the one person who is right that nobody else wants to listen to because the "right" position or answer is not as much fun as what everyone wants to do anyway. It's a relative thing, like a joke about the asshole and the lawyer.