We INTPs are assholes

[EyeSeeCold]

I'd rather have one as a friend to exercise the Ne.

I pretty much like where I am, but ENTP looks like a step up from INTP, at least when you view the top two functions.

 

[pjoa09]

Great Scott! I don't know why it took me so long to figure out. SpaceYeti isn't an INTP!
He's a-a an..

Spoiler

ENTP!!!!
Dun dun dunnnnn

Seriously it's all in the posts and the picture. Witty, cocky, alternate between serious/joking at will at inappropriate times. Heightened sense of confidence/high hopes/optimistic realist. It's so obvious, because you seem to scoff at self-indulgent overthinking and all the speculative theorizing.

ENTPs love intellectual ideas but would rather party and get laid than stay at home all night trying to figure out the universe.

That's fucking bullshit. I love partying and I want to get laid. But I hate crowd and I hate talking to people about useless topics then the get confused and think I am high or some shit. Listen to me carefully, then 1 hour later i am not talking and they are actually wondering why. Out loud.

 

[SpaceYeti]

Perhaps I'm an ENTP, then. It doesn't really matter too much.

 

[lightspeed]

Personally, I could tell that SpaceYeti was making a tongue in cheek poke at himself and the rest of us.

Try to think the best when questioning a member's intentions. That's my opinion.

 

[lightspeed]

Understanding too, that on the internet, we are unable to recognize someone's tone of voice. I relate also, because in real life, people are uncertain when I'm joking, and when I'm not.

I think if someone wants to make comical observations of INTPs or themselves, it will probably be permitted.

As long as the intent is NOT to insult, or hurt another member on a personal level.

 

[Farion]

My reactions:

1) We're constantly bitching about our depression. What the hell?! Why are we depressed? Why take the precious time out of our day when we could be having fun and feel depressed? Do something! God am I glad I hung out with other types, who groomed me for social interaction and taking initiative. Without it, would I be like you jerks?

2) Why the hell do we split the fuck out of hairs instead of dealing with the actual point being made? Okay, so the shade of meaning may be off, but correcting the unspecific should be secondary to the actual point being made! If you're going to argue about something, argue about the substance of the post, insofar as you can understand it without slicing apart hairs.

3) We doubt reality just as much, if not more, than we try to understand reality! I won't lie, I went through my "everything I perceive could be an illusion" chain of thoughts just like everyone else eventually does. However, even if the whole world you perceive in fact is an illusion, that's the world you have to deal with by necessity! Even if it's not the real one, until a reason to suspect it's not comes along, it's the one you have! Deal with it.

1) Haha, didn't get me with that one. I can be social when I want to. My two best friends are the most stereotypical jocks you could ever find. Seriously, I dare you to try. It's a bit weird, really.

2) Well maybe some of us like splitting hairs. It's not like it's a compulsion or anything. Let's be clear though: are we slicing or splitting? When I think of splitting, I think of maybe a microscopic chisel, or maybe just pulling. If we're talking about slicing though... well now, that probably involves a blade of some sort. I don't like blades. I mean, maybe, if it's for hairs I could deal with it, but can't we just stick to splitting? I liked splitting.

3) ... I'm screwed. .... I was going to type more but honestly I can't bring myself to think about it anymore.

 

[SpaceYeti]

Wow, way to resurrect an old-ass post!

 

[DissociativeUniverse]

1) We're constantly bitching about our depression. What the hell?! Why are we depressed? Why take the precious time out of our day when we could be having fun and feel depressed? Do something! God am I glad I hung out with other types, who groomed me for social interaction and taking initiative. Without it, would I be like you jerks?

2) Why the hell do we split the fuck out of hairs instead of dealing with the actual point being made? Okay, so the shade of meaning may be off, but correcting the unspecific should be secondary to the actual point being made! If you're going to argue about something, argue about the substance of the post, insofar as you can understand it without slicing apart hairs.

3) We doubt reality just as much, if not more, than we try to understand reality! I won't lie, I went through my "everything I perceive could be an illusion" chain of thoughts just like everyone else eventually does. However, even if the whole world you perceive in fact is an illusion, that's the world you have to deal with by necessity! Even if it's not the real one, until a reason to suspect it's not comes along, it's the one you have! Deal with it.

1: Well it may be somewhat true that generally INTP's bitch about their problems, but dn't forget not EVERYONE is the same percentage of each attribute as you. I for one may feel at sometimes that I want to bitch about my problems, but I almost always never do because I see the way other people view the so-called "INTP asshole group" and avoid it if possible.

2: Again, depending on your EXACT personality type, splitting the hairs out of every damn thing may very well be necessary for the INTP at hand. When I'm in conversation with someone, wether it's something they've said or I've said, EVERY word that was used was used for a purpose to give the other person the overall attitude, feeling, and purpose of what they are trying to say (at least for INTP's). One word could give you a misplaced sense of the topic at hand, and it's only in our nature to want to know the truth behind every little statement, and without that hair-s[plitting, some of us would be completely in the dark.

3: No comment, since i've not yet experienced that chain of thoughts.

 

[nexion]

Since this thread has been resurrected from the dead, I will say, regarding number three, that the perception of reality is not reality itself.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

2: Again, depending on your EXACT personality type, splitting the hairs out of every damn thing may very well be necessary for the INTP at hand. When I'm in conversation with someone, wether it's something they've said or I've said, EVERY word that was used was used for a purpose to give the other person the overall attitude, feeling, and purpose of what they are trying to say (at least for INTP's). One word could give you a misplaced sense of the topic at hand, and it's only in our nature to want to know the truth behind every little statement, and without that hair-s[plitting, some of us would be completely in the dark.

Yes! Whether purposely or subconsciously, words are picked for a reason, and hairsplitting and annoying another person brings out their inner self and all the real feelings come out. Not only is this a result of the search for knowledge but isn't this also a subconscious need to feel victimized when you are the subject?

 

[SpaceYeti]

Sure, but when splitting hairs takes precedence over the topic being discussed, it's irritating because the topic being discussed is actually getting ignored.

 

[nexion]

Sure, but when splitting hairs takes precedence over the topic being discussed, it's irritating because the topic being discussed is actually getting ignored.

Discussions rarely ever get digested fully anyway. they all lead to more discussions of vastly different topics. That happens in every single one of my lasting discussions with others.

 

[SpaceYeti]

Touche, but splitting hairs ignores the original topic entirely. It's not just a shifting, natural conversation.

I suggest that an attempt is made to answer something and also splitting the hairs. You can do both, that way both things are covered.

 

[Farion]

I'm so happy I could be the one to start this up again :smiley_emoticons_mr
It's not like I only followed a link and didn't realize how old this was or anything...

Ahhh! What's the correct font size?

Anyways, in case you couldn't tell, most of my post was facetious (true, but facetious). I tend to agree, though, that too much splitting of hairs gets in the way of the topic at hand since (generally) everyone's smart enough to figure out what the word is supposed to say without the precise definition being hammered out (see? the hammer is what you use on the chisel!).

However, in some cases it may be necessary, due to the stupidity/obstinancy/maliciousness of those involved, to make sure everyone understands the precise meaning of the words being used. And thus we have lawyers.

 

[SpaceYeti]

Yay, we're responsible for evil!

 

[nexion]

Touche, but splitting hairs ignores the original topic entirely. It's not just a shifting, natural conversation.

I suggest that an attempt is made to answer something and also splitting the hairs. You can do both, that way both things are covered.

Who says that's not what we often attempt to do? Splitting hairs over definition and semantics is important, but it's useless if doing so causes the entire discussion to become a semantics argument. I agree with you there.

 

[DissociativeUniverse]

Yes! Whether purposely or subconsciously, words are picked for a reason, and hairsplitting and annoying another person brings out their inner self and all the real feelings come out. Not only is this a result of the search for knowledge but isn't this also a subconscious need to feel victimized when you are the subject?

It seems logical that a possible reason for why we do and say things the way we do is for the need to feel victimized, but if it truly is there, it's subconscious and I therefore cannot say wether that's true or not. I thinkg, though, that it's equally possible that there is no subconscious desire for that need of feeling but rather to not only make sure what is being said is true or not, but (at least I do this many tmes throughout a conversation) it's also possible that the INTP who is doing the hair-splitting, to be doing it to get a better feel for the kind of person to which they are speaking, and by doing so, get a better feel for what types of words and sentences to use to appeal to whomever you are speaking to without them knowing you diliberately are modifying your words, however still true, to illicit a more favorable response.

Farion: Again, it may not be the meaning of the word, so much as the charge behind it that we are trying to more accurately picture and feel. I do agree with what you said about Lawyers, but there are also cases, like an argument between two friends of which you know both sides of the story whereas they can only percieve their wn side, where you are a third party mediater. And it's not that they are too stupid to understand what the other is saying to them, they are too caught up in their own side to be open-minded enough (not to mention what their personality type presents to them when in these situations) and it is necessary for someone like ourselves, who can word each side in a way that is favorable to the other and agreeable to both, more than getting them to understand what is being said.

 

[DissociativeUniverse]

Ignore any typos, I didn't bother to re-read what I wrote