How many hours do you devote to studying...

[Toad]

per week?

 

[Dormouse]

Um... About none. *shame*

 

[ckm]

Zero, although it should be about...eight?

 

[asdfasdfasdfsdf]

i dont set aside time to study.
there are 2 types of knowledge people might like to gain through studying:
logic
memorization
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if its a logic issues, either i understand it, or i dont. not something i can study.
if its memorization, i typically just cram last minute so its fresh in memory, or i try to look deeper into the subject, and find some reasoning/pattern, and then from there i deduce all of the things i wouldve had to memorize.

 

[Puffy]

I study History so all my work is self study as opposed to science based subjects. I still only do about 20 hours a week though :/

 

[Toad]

Oh and tell us what your grades are too please. I want to see if their is a correlation between time studied and grades.

Also, "studying" also includes time you spend doing homework.

 

[Puffy]

Around 30 hours a week with everything I do and i'm heading for a first (1:1) atm.

 

[Toad]

what is a first 1:1?

 

[Puffy]

In the UK its the equivalent to the best degree you can get. Sorry I forget that most people on this forum live in America 0.o

On that note type "I really" into google and see what suggestion it comes up with first.

 

[Dormouse]

Homework? Is that the stuff I do in the hallway before class?

Uh... I'm sort off a terrible student. Still pull off low 90s, though, most of the time.

I suppose, about 5 hours a week doing neccessary stuff like lab reports and essays.

Of course, up that to, like, 10 come end of term.

 

[ckm]

Including homework I still do very little. Usually homework gets done in a rush just before I go to bed, or between classes/at breaks. My guess is somewhere in the region of three to six hours a week (hard to judge because it's broken up a lot), although we're expected to do at least two a day.

My grades are reasonably good. I can get an A in Maths without studying, and English sometimes. I just "get" them, so there is no need for study anyway. In tests that involve memorisation, I probably get an average of about 75%. Unfortunately most tests are solely memorisation.

Applied Maths is an interesting one. You are expected to take a list of formulas with no explanation for granted and apply them in your answers. It's impossible for me. I can't hold on to pattern or reason, which leaves me staring at the page.

To summarize, I feel that I could ace my tests if I honestly, wholeheartedly wanted to (arrogant? If you say so). But what's the point? If I already know I can, making it reality would be tedius and frustrating.

Edit: Am I allowed to be frustrated with myself for saying the exact same thing as Dormouse but with far more time and effort?

 

[Toad]

INTP = Underachiever

 

[ckm]

P is rather unsuited to the world of money and decision making. Wouldn't change it for the world though.

 

[Toad]

P is rather unsuited to the world of money and decision making. Wouldn't change it for the world though.

I think most of us just lack ambition.

 

[ckm]

I'm ambitious, but not realistically. Anything that is realistic is too much effort for me.

And now for something completely different: I like your signature.

 

[Darby]

time devoted to study(per week)= 0
time devoted to homework(per week)= 2-3hours...maybe

grades tests= high 80's(on bad days) usually mid to high 90's
grades overall=I currently have a 2.53 CUM, but last quarter I had a 2.8, and would have had a 3, except I missed a major project

 

[Dormouse]

If I already know I can, making it reality would be tedius and frustrating.

Edit: Am I allowed to be frustrated with myself for saying the exact same thing as Dormouse but with far more time and effort?

Well, you said it much more eloquently than me.
And yeah, whats the point of anything if you already know how to do it? No challenge. Boring.

INTP = Underachiever

Damn straight. And stupidly proud of it.

I'm ambitious, but not realistically. Anything that is realistic is too much effort for me.

I'm totally discovering the cure for cancer. In my basement lab.

 

[-Z-]

Not much really, only thing I do prepare for are my lab assignments because I am required to do that regularly. When it comes to study for my college classes, I start studying for them about 5-10 days before exams and usually end up with 80-90 score in areas that I have some interest in, 50-70 in those i find utterly useless, and 95-100 in those I'm really interested in. My average is 4-4.5 through my years of college and it was about the same in high school. Never really cared about it I guess.

That would be my academic driven study.
But if you consider studying/learning a new skill that is not closely related to my college education, I do it practically every day, in my free time, while I'm not playing WoW (which is about 2 hours a day).

 

[transformers]

I'm very bad with structured study, but can stay up all night and day learning about something that has caught my interest.

 

[walfin]

Some things do actually require study. Rote memorisation is not worthless. And skills require practice, which is really the same thing as studying. You might think that understanding something might mean being able to use it well - not always.

Applied Maths is an interesting one. You are expected to take a list of formulas with no explanation for granted and apply them in your answers. It's impossible for me. I can't hold on to pattern or reason, which leaves me staring at the page.

Cool. The ultimate unstudiable subject.

Sorry I forget that most people on this forum live in America 0.o

Toad lives in British Columbia. Does Canada not follow the British system of Honours?

 

[Scourgexlvii]

Studying (as in not including homework)= 0 hours, even before a test
Studying+homework= 7 hours maybe... about an hour per school-day, but some of my classes just pack on the work too often to be 5 or 6
Stupid architecture projects= way too fucking much time off my life...
(As you may have noticed I have a bias against architecture)

 

[Enne]

I'm really REALLY bad with that. For most of the semester, studying involves me sitting at a desk (or worse, lying on a bed), with TV, music and IM 'doing work', which lasts me late into the night. I probably do actual work for maybe 30 minutes to 1 hour. For exams, this gets ramped up to about 3-4 hours before the exam. I lament after I get the results (I never concentrate fully, even during the exam sometimes), but it doesn't stop me from going back and repeating the nonsensical cycle. Basically gradewise I have a 2.6 Cum, have been nailed with many a B-, and the occassional A/C combination that leaves me around there for most semesters. I excel at independent studies where I can be a specialist, delving into some facet of ME that I enjoy, and being free to design, implement, and comment on the results of said implementation, and I do better in classes that require some extension of this . . . "creativity". I kind of resent how the format of my engineering courses are basically just a mad dash to keep up with all the homework, with some exams sprinkled in for kicks. The design classes are a nice change of pace, but even there, due dates manage to wriggle themselves in.

As you will find, Toad, school is most enjoyable to those who like the regimen, and enjoy the frequent pats on the back for leaping through the various hoops.

 

[fullerene]

In/before high school: never. In college, a fucking lot. In both cases, my grades evened out around a 3.6

In high school I never had to study... not for tests, and not for exams. I didn't even read most of the books that were "required" for english (I took AP english and the only book I read all year was Brave New World, which was excellent ). As far as homework... maybe 10-ish hours a week? Depends on which year of high school. My grades were always As in Math, Science, any electives I took, B/B+s in English and History, and A/A-'s in foreign language.

College changed a bunch. Freshman year wasn't too bad, but after that I quickly learned I really couldn't fuck around anymore. We don't have +/- grades, so B+ round down to Bs, A- round up to As, etc. I'm no longer guaranteed As in math/science (I got a B in discrete math, and Bs in most physics classes. As in all my programming/comp sci ones, and a mix of A/B in philosophy. I actually came out with a C in special relativity, which was a shock, but that was sort of bullshit. I understood the stuff better than the grade showed). I also got As in my history and writing classes freshman year, which was a surprise for me. It was cool because neither one made you memorize stuff (the history class was all paper-based, with no tests at all). The time it takes to do well has ramped up considerably, though. Homework alone takes about 5-6 hours/week for each class... and I tend to take 6 classes each semester. I still don't study often, but I'll put in an extra 1 or 2 hours the day before a test, just to look over everything. Unless it's electromagnetism, where the teacher anti-teaches... in which case I have to read the whole chapters and teach myself what we're being tested on, which turns into a 5-6 hour ordeal. That's only for science classes, though... I don't really study for the other subject's ones at all.


I found it a hell of a lot easier to make myself work in college, when I realized that we're paying a hell of a lot of money to go to school, and it's a complete waste of time if you don't do anything, or do poorly.

 

[Pythia]

In/before high school: never. In college, a fucking lot.

I feel the opposite way. In high school I would spend HOURS studying; homework used to be simpler, though, easily done in the last minute.
In college I simply DON'T study, but spend more time doing homework (essays and the sort, which can take me from two to eight hours-- overnight, since I am prone to laziness).

Oddly, my grades have visibly improved: my average is now around 8.5 out of 10, but though in high school it used to be 9, I used to fail often (it didn't matter, though, because there were always easy subjects in which I never got less than 10).
Maybe it has to do with the fact that I'm now studying something I'm interested in, unlike during high school, when I had to deal with subjects such as Chemistry, Math and Physics. I know INTP's are supposed to like those subjects, but I personally prefer Logic, Philosophy, Anthropology and Literature.

On the lack of ambition issue, I sort of disagree. I find myself to be very ambitious when it comes to a project I truly care about.

 

[Toad]

Crypt, you give new hope for INTP's.

 

[Ermine]

In/before high school: never. In college, a fucking lot. In both cases, my grades evened out around a 3.6

In high school I never had to study... not for tests, and not for exams. I didn't even read most of the books that were "required" for english (I took AP english and the only book I read all year was Brave New World, which was excellent ). As far as homework... maybe 10-ish hours a week? Depends on which year of high school. My grades were always As in Math, Science, any electives I took, B/B+s in English and History, and A/A-'s in foreign language.

College changed a bunch. Freshman year wasn't too bad, but after that I quickly learned I really couldn't fuck around anymore. We don't have +/- grades, so B+ round down to Bs, A- round up to As, etc. I'm no longer guaranteed As in math/science (I got a B in discrete math, and Bs in most physics classes. As in all my programming/comp sci ones, and a mix of A/B in philosophy. I actually came out with a C in special relativity, which was a shock, but that was sort of bullshit. I understood the stuff better than the grade showed). I also got As in my history and writing classes freshman year, which was a surprise for me. It was cool because neither one made you memorize stuff (the history class was all paper-based, with no tests at all). The time it takes to do well has ramped up considerably, though. Homework alone takes about 5-6 hours/week for each class... and I tend to take 6 classes each semester. I still don't study often, but I'll put in an extra 1 or 2 hours the day before a test, just to look over everything. Unless it's electromagnetism, where the teacher anti-teaches... in which case I have to read the whole chapters and teach myself what we're being tested on, which turns into a 5-6 hour ordeal. That's only for science classes, though... I don't really study for the other subject's ones at all.


I found it a hell of a lot easier to make myself work in college, when I realized that we're paying a hell of a lot of money to go to school, and it's a complete waste of time if you don't do anything, or do poorly.

Whoa, you have my study habits... In high school, I didn't study per se. I just did my assignments for the most part and looked over the material right before the test, if you can call that studying. That usually worked, and I also got a 3.6 GPA. The similarities are crazy...

In college, I've actually had to work for some of my classes. Only one is really challenging: graphic design. But it's hard in general simply because I'm trying 18.5 credits at once, and general ed classes end up being so time consuming. This is nothing like your workload (24, right?), but since I'm juggling so much stuff, I have to study in order to retain the information properly. Now, I probably spend at least 30 hours/week on homework, and 3 on studying. Well, to clarify, I only have actual tests in my general ed classes, and the rest are gauged by big projects. This approach is also evening out to a 3.6 GPA. Something needs to change if I'm going to get that scholarship...

I also have an "anti-teacher" for math. The concepts are easy enough, but I find it much easier just reading the book and doing the homework.

 

[fullerene]

aww... thanks, toad.

I actually backed off of that 24 credit semester, which is the only reason I'm still around here, and haven't slit my wrists yet. I'm doing 21, which is more than enough. Next semester I'm cutting back to 16.5, because it isn't even fun anymore. I'm also only taking one real physics course, and it's the upper-class experimental, so it'll be a change of pace. I've grown (really) sick of physics theory this semester, so I'm chilling out and doing a lot of computer work for a while. I'm pretty much done my major anyway, so there's no harm in it.

I don't really do anything outside of class, though. I mean, I have friends & a social life, but no clubs or sports or anything. Unless you count IM sports? But that amounts to like an hour or two a week.


I don't think I'd be studying at all if I were doing philosophy still either, aurora. I started out double-majoring in physics/philosophy, but dropped the philosophy half when I took a class where the professor just wanted you to repeat what famous philosophers had said on tests (the questions were literally things like "what was Hume's view on induction?"), rather than asking you to think at all. I figured if enough of the classes were like that, I wouldn't want to major in it. I've taken a whole heck of a lot of logic courses, though, and they didn't really need studying either. In propositional logic, at least, after you learned like the 13-ish (I forget now) axioms of the theory, it turned into a "how clever are you with structural manipulations?" class. I don't think literature classes usually have anything to study for either... since they're usually discussion based (at least here), and ask for papers rather than tests.

The math and physics stuff is pretty unavoidable, though. If you don't remember Maxwell's equations, you're going to fail your electromagnetism test, no questions asked. Likewise with Classical Mechanics and your frequency of a harmonic oscillator, solutions to differential equations, how to work with different 3d coordinate systems, and things like that. Some subjects just require more studying than others. Personally, though, I find that the time I spend studying is far less than the time I would spend reading/writing papers if I were a humanities major.

 

[Cavallier]

I graduated a while back but...when I was in school I studied around 40 hours a week. I was a literature major and philosophy minor so that means I spent most of my study time reading books, writing essays, and doing background research. I'd often read 6-8 books a week and write equally as many papers. I graduated with a 3.6 GPA.

If you were to describe "study" as pursuing/researching new interests then I suppose I spend around 30 hours a week "studying" these days.

 

[Nicholas A. A. E.]

I'm in high school, and I don't study. I'm guessing I'm not the only one here. I do well on tests, and I do most of my homework, but I don't need to study much to do well on tests.

 

[beastly toast]

I was similar to many people above in that studying and homework is not in my top priorities. In high school I attended class, did homework in lunch and homeroom and ended up with 3.6 or so. My final year, my gpa first semester was 3.7 and second semester was 2.6. I already got in to college and I basically stopped do anything relating to school and actually had somewhat of a social life.
In college, studying for tests usually consists of making a cheat sheet (if allowed for the test) or a basic review of material if no cheat sheet allowed, no more than 2 hours typically. Homework on the other hand can be a real bear. Homeworks typically will take 2-10 hours for the math/physics/engineer homework and is usually finished the morning the assignment is due. I will get a good understand of what I need to finish the night before, decide how much time to finish (say 4 hours) and then wake up at the ass crack of dawn to finish it up. I graduated with 3.01 in my undergrad, getting a little better than average on tests and average on homeworks... if i turned them in.

 

[Radioactive_Springtime]

As a testament to me being a terrible student; somewhere between not at all and about a half hour a day.

 

[phantome]

to be honest, I hardly study. I do well on my tests however, but I think that's mainly because I pay attention during class.
oh and doing homework never hurts x]
(how to survive highschool...)

 

[ckm]

A solid example of my results (no study):

I'm getting continuous assessment in English, and my current grade is 78%;

I got 33% in Applied Maths today;

Aced Maths (I made it up as I went along and it turned out right);

And did okay in a History test (I'm predicting a high B).

 

[Invoke Ninja's True Power]

I'm in a biology class right now and I hate it, biology sucks! I study about 1-3 hours the day before a test and I am getting a C right now. I can't wait to get back to chemistry next semester.....and astronomy for my fun class.

 

[Latro]

Including homework a normal week is probably...hmm...

Diff eq: 1-2 hours
Proof-writing: 2-3 hours
Physics: 2-3 hours
Gen ed: 2-3 hours (almost all readings); this appears to be changing just this week as I'm forced to write my damn final paper.

So....7-11 hours a week at present. 4.0 at the moment. Minimal studying outside homework, btw.

 

[kantor1003]

almost 0. It's a shame, but it seems I can't appreciate studying something I am ordered to study. Even interesting things become dull as soon as it becomes graded and time constrained.

 

[Minuend]

Depends on my motivation, really. It can be no work, or 4 hours a day. Don't think I work much longer than 4 hours. I never check how long I've spent reading, so I can't tell exactly. If there's no motivation, I don't read properly, which means I won't remember it after. So it has no purpose.

I don't like being graded either. Lectures make interesting topics boring.

 

[Toad]

Would you guys ever go to see a tutor? I can never see myself being tutored. I think it's a pride thing. The only way I would go would be is if I was getting less than a B in a class.

 

[Ermine]

Would you guys ever go to see a tutor? I can never see myself being tutored. I think it's a pride thing. The only way I would go would be is if I was getting less than a B in a class.

Not at this stage, no. In my case, my classes either don't have tutors, or the classes are too easy for me to consider it unless I were to have a C. If it were an undeniably hard class, I probably would. I am considering being a tutor next semester though.

 

[Kidege]

In a good week, 30, because there's no classes, it all depends on my work. In a so so week... 20.

As an undergrad student I had to study/do homework a lot. We had like tons of homework and projects. But actual studying... about 5 hours a week? Still, sometimes I left home at 8 am and returned at 10 pm, and spent the whole day doing team work. I'm so glad that's over. I had an average of 96 out of a 100.

There was this one time I studied for a contest on a topic that had nothing to do with my academic path. I studied 8 to 10 hours per day, for 5 weeks. I passed among the first 100 people (out of about 1500).

*ducks before the "INTJ" accusations begin*

Edit:

I had to hire a tutor for maths in highschool, but I had no teacher (was homeschooled/self-taught).

I hired him again in college, basically because the professor said I was totally lost. I wasn't, honest. Proof is I had the highest grade in the class at the end. But... heck. I only asked her to tell me the meaning of calculus. I still don't know it... *looks around with hope*

 

[ckm]

In a good week, 30, because there's no classes, it all depends on my work. In a so so week... 20.

As an undergrad student I had to study/do homework a lot. We had like tons of homework and projects. But actual studying... about 5 hours a week? Still, sometimes I left home at 8 am and returned at 10 pm, and spent the whole day doing team work. I'm so glad that's over. I had an average of 96 out of a 100.

There was this one time I studied for a contest on a topic that had nothing to do with my academic path. I studied 8 to 10 hours per day, for 5 weeks. I passed among the first 100 people (out of about 1500).

*ducks before the "INTJ" accusations begin*

Edit:

I had to hire a tutor for maths in highschool, but I had no teacher (was homeschooled/self-taught).

I hired him again in college, basically because the professor said I was totally lost. I wasn't, honest. Proof is I had the highest grade in the class at the end. But... heck. I only asked her to tell me the meaning of calculus. I still don't know it... *looks around with hope*

You're not INTJ. INTJs are human. apparently

 

[Kidege]

*pouts*

I know INTJs, I've studied with them. They plow through the subject and don't get distracted. Me? I have to stop and sing or say something random every now and then. I also curse a lot.


Edit:

Or I start studying at 11 (23:00) and stop at 2, 3 in the morning. Or I study like crazy three days, almost non stop, and lie in bed the next two days.

 

[Taprobane]

At the moment I've been working for about 20 hours a week. That is only for one week of the whole term though, the rest of the time I'd be struggling to push one. However at the moment I've got 11,000 words to hand in tomorrow so I've finally had to sit and do something.

Nearly done though, thank ze lord.

 

[Minuend]

I wouldn't' mind a tutor, actually. Especially if we're talking about subject where thinking is involved. I mean, like philosophy, psychology etc. Also just having a person explaining me instead of reading is a very easy way to learn. But if we're talking "person telling me to do task 1 and then correct me after"...not so much. But I would do it if I didn't understand anything. I realize I could probably fill a page with "if he was like that" "if we were to do this". There's so many circumstances that may change my opinion about tutoring @_@

Also, grades, I get everything from B to D. I think I got E once. It depends on how much I study and the difficulty of the subject.
Programming without studying -> D
social sciences* without studying -> A. But I always got B on tests, so it wasn't justified.
Not studying is not entirely correct, I did do some homework here and there. (I know uni is harder than high school).

Some of the reasons I never get As is:
- I never study that hard. (I'm afraid to, because then I have no excuse if I still get B, other than my lack of intelligence. That's scary).
- I have problems sitting in a classroom due to my anxiety. So I write as fast as I can so that I may leave.

*It's not called that, but I can't remember what it's called.. It has to do with our society, and they teach it in high school and such. Anyone?


Ed:

*pouts*
I know INTJs, I've studied with them. They plow through the subject and don't get distracted. Me? I have to stop and sing or say something random every now and then. I also curse a lot.

This is the reason it's hard to determine how much I actually study. Reading for 2minutes, then take a 2-minute-break staring at my wall.

 

[Eef]

I only study when I have exams, and I study the lessons in the last minute. I'm lazy when it comes to these things, but I don't fail any subject. I'm not much into the recognition the school can give you if you achieved high grades or any of that sort. I'm just real contented with passing so I'm not much into studying all day and night. I'd rather sleep. I'm a slacker by choice anyways.

 

[citrusbreath95]

Sadly, none... I cram last few minuetes before the test

 

[Nevermind]

*It's not called that, but I can't remember what it's called.. It has to do with our society, and they teach it in high school and such. Anyone?

Sociology? Civics? Anthropology?

As to the main topic...I haven't really got anything to say that hasn't already been said. Almost never study, but still usually manage to ace tests.

In chemistry last semester I only did half the homework, doodled instead of taking notes, never studied, and barely paid attention. Yet I still aced all my tests and pulled a B average for my class.
My mom was disappointed, "you could have gotten an A if you'd just put in some effort" "why don't you just do the homework??"
But personally, I have never been more proud of a grade in my life. Getting an A for turning in all my homework and other mundane crap means nothing to me, but getting a B without doing any real work, that is a source of pride.

I'd rather have a B based only on my intelligence than an A based mostly on discipline and following directions. The very idea disgusts me.

 

[ckm]

Nicely put, Nevermind. When I get a C in vomit-essay-on-page tests without studying while my classmates ace them, to me it's almost like they cheated, and I actually outperformed them. Of course, my aversion from admitting someone's done better than me intervenes here.

 

[Logos]

I've never really studied for anything, and I procrastinate often. Even now I suppose to be doing homework and I have a project in Spanish due tommarrow but I already planned out how i'm going to do so i'll do it in the morning before class and most likely get an A.
My grades right now are:
Psychology A
History Honors A
Driver's Ed A
Spanish II B (hopefully an A tomarrow)
English A
Chemistry B
Algebra II A
My School is on some sort of advanced grading scale, but its cool cause we all have laptops so I can play Diablo II and listen to music on youtube all day
A=93-100
B=85-92
C=77-84
never had anything lower so I wouldn't know

 

[Words]

I'm a genius. I don't study but I get several A+'s. no, seriously. LOL

(reason: I, in a way, cheat) haha, there is always a way..psh.

lowest grade was 50 or F though...had to take it again.