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1. Hadoblado - 0
2. Nebulous - 4, Helvete, Puffy, Hadoblado, redbaron
3. Happy - 0
4. Zerkalo - 1, Artsu Tharaz
5. ruminator - 1, Nebulous
6. redbaron -0
7. Puffy - 0
8. Rook - Vanilla Townie
9. Helvete - 0
10. Cheeseumpuffs - 2, Zerkalo, Nebulous
11. Sinny91 - 0
12. EyeSeeCold - 0
13. Artsu Tharaz - 0

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Not voting: Happy, ruminatior, Sinny91, EyeSeeCold,

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Vote redbaron

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vote Happy
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vote happy

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vote Ruminator

Vote Ruminator

Vote ruminator

vote ruminator.


vote Nebulous

Vote Nebulous


vote Nebulous

Vote Nebulous

vote artsu

UN VOTE ESC

VOTE NEBULOUS

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Unvote WhoeverIVotedBefore

Vote Cheeseumpuffs

I VOTE ZERKALO


Vote Cheesums

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Vote Nebulous

Vote Nebulous.


Vote nebulous


Vote cheese

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UNVOTE RUMINATOR

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The only vote's I will use are for Hado or Happy.
Nothin personal Hado, just how I operate. I'd like to reveal your role, at most expenses.
 

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30 mins left.
 

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Good that you're here cheese
Hado didn't address the neb thing with you (well that's what you said, i didn't even read what hado wrote)
So my question is why did you stick so adamantly to a vote based on a hunch? I've been getting strong mafia vibes from 2 people, but I hesitated to act on then as there's a big chance I could be wrong...and I barely have any info on them in the first place
Did you just feel pressured into maintaining the vote bc you thought redbaron would label you as mafia if you flaked out on your word? Why are you Unvoting now?
 

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No offense taken. But why do you hate Australia?

JK. I didn't have an expectation for you to be cooperative. In fact, the most disruptive thing you could have done to stop me in my tracks would have been to agree with me. Then I'd have frozen up and been all like "fucking hang on...".
 

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Looks bad really. Nebulous isn't my top choice to be sure. I'd be much more content with Ruminator or Cheesums at this juncture. Unfortunately it seems we're struggling to get a lynch and at this point I'd be pretty sure that unless we see a drastic spike in Town input then it's an easy mafia win from here on out.
 

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Rook 100% green
Zerkalo 85% green
RB 95% green
Sinny 90% green
Helvete 70% green
Cheeseum 25% red
Nebulous 10% red
Ruminator 20?% red
Puffy 10% red
Happy 10% red
ESC 40% red
Artzu 20% red
 

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Good that you're here cheese
Hado didn't address the neb thing with you (well that's what you said, i didn't even read what hado wrote)

He still hasn't.

So my question is why did you stick so adamantly to a vote based on a hunch? I've been getting strong mafia vibes from 2 people, but I hesitated to act on then as there's a big chance I could be wrong...and I barely have any info on them in the first place
Did you just feel pressured into maintaining the vote bc you thought redbaron would label you as mafia if you flaked out on your word? Why are you Unvoting now?

I didn't really stick super adamantly to it. I clarified several times that it was a just a hunch and that it was the best I had to go on.

I voted for nebulous because I thought the ruminator train was unnecessary and I had just saw the pattern and I figured the only way to draw attention to group voting habits would be to vote for someone. A simple word of warning is more ineffectual.

I'm unvoting now because Hado's and Puffy's willingness to vote for Nebulous without a clear majority of support implies to me that they are not possible mafia cohorts.
 

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Wtf guys so you're saying that even though u don't get mafia vibes from neb and feel that she is likely a townie, you were still willing to vote for her bc that would somehow give us advantage over mafia? Get real
 

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Get off Neb, it's not happening. All on Cheeseum now.
 

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Question to those knowledgeable to the forum tools:

I would like to make a kind of table sorta thing for Vote Counts. I would like to include the time and order of votes and who those votes were on. It will make reading the votes by players much easier to look at.

Thanks, feel free to PM me about this.
 

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Wtf guys so you're saying that even though u don't get mafia vibes from neb and feel that she is likely a townie, you were still willing to vote for her bc that would somehow give us advantage over mafia? Get real

We are being fucked with, in short.

Vote Hado with me, turn the tables.
 

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Okay. My vote will stand the same.

A few notes from me in the event I get killed off in 20 minutes:

cheeseum I'd try to not take too strong offense at hado's grilling. This is just my interpretation but I don't think hado honestly believed the town was going to follow through on lynching you at this late stage of the game (for one thing this has been the most inactive time of the day, I honestly expect that not enough votes are going to go through and anyone reading now is essentially making the decision of whether a lynch occurs btw.)

If he actually wants a lynch its obviously better to go with the more established choice, which he's just done, than try and start a new one.

The grilling has value in itself, it tests a suspicion. Ultimately, I expect it to be the case that anyone remotely suspect will experience the same grilling at some point, and it should be welcomed. It's necessary and a good thing, only mafia in reality should fear interrogation.

A) We see how people react under strong pressure, go too soft and its too easy to squeeze loose.
B) We get to see who defends who and importantly who doesn't and stays out of it.

What I've been realising is that this isn't a game of isolating individual people. We're working against a team who are communicating with each other, and have a strategy. When we catch a mafia we want to be able to catch the others through them easily, and that means forcing everyone to interact with each other in a variety of subtle and sometimes underhanded ways.

While I'm saying this now, there's a reason I am, this can't always be spelled out to you. Hado, RB, or whoever can't spell this out to you while they're doing it, as the aim is to catch someone out, and if they know what's happening as its happening the entire effect is killed.

Basically, the pattern I'm seeing is that someone votes on someone or pressures someone (namely rb & hado) and then immediately everyone comes in accusing the antagonist for being antagonistic as if the most pro-town behaviour is to be passive. (I genuinely think it could be the case that sinny and esc are simply new and not being deliberately mafia-ish on this.) We have to be if we're going to win. Its simply purely defensive to be attacked by hado and then try to attack him. It might preserve your place in the game, but its not pro-town. If you're going to do it, do it properly and thoroughly grill him on all your suspicions in the way he has. If you have suspicions its important you do.

I don't know it for certain as I can't, but I'd place RB and Hado in my most confident townie spots. Hado probably first. It seems to me the way they've played it is most pro-town, whether they're mafia or not, and least likely to be mafia. Why? Because its the highest gambit game for mafia to play to try and be the influential townies.

For myself, I think they've established the strongest behaviour to emulate. I hope its understood that I'm naturally a very agreeable and diplomatic person, and to a large extent this is because I actually physically squirm and shudder 'fuck' under my breath at the thought of upsetting someone. It makes me really uncomfortable. I've been trying to get up to speed with the game and how I think it should be played, but I hope I can up my game in the next round and get to answer anyone if they comment on this.
 

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Cheeseum I assume the thing you want from me is indicative of my alignment? If so, if I live, I'll address it after the night. My head is not on the block right now so it's low prio. Fair?
 

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Puffy I'm genuinely trying to kill the guy.

But yes, it's not personal. It's that I think there's going to be a no-lynch and I really don't want that. Neb isn't happening.

ATM mafia have not been able to communicate with each other. They know each other's identities but aren't working as a cohesive unit. That's a major reason why inaction is scum tell, because they're all waiting for night phase to communicate.
 

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^ written before seeing hado changed his vote but I still think there's a lot of substance here.
 

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OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT:

1. Hadoblado - 1, Cheeseumpuffs
2. Nebulous - 3, Helvete, Puffy, redbaron
3. Happy - 0
4. Zerkalo - 1, Artsu Tharaz
5. ruminator - 0
6. redbaron -0
7. Puffy - 0
8. Rook - Vanilla Townie
9. Helvete - 0
10. Cheeseumpuffs - 3, Zerkalo, Nebulous, Hadoblado
11. Sinny91 - 0
12. EyeSeeCold - 0
13. Artsu Tharaz - 0

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Not voting: Happy, ruminatior, Sinny91, EyeSeeCold,

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Vote redbaron

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vote Happy
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vote happy

unvote happy

vote Ruminator

Vote Ruminator

Vote ruminator

vote ruminator.


vote Nebulous

Vote Nebulous


vote Nebulous

Vote Nebulous

vote artsu

UN VOTE ESC

VOTE NEBULOUS

vote Nebulous

Unvote WhoeverIVotedBefore

Vote Cheeseumpuffs

I VOTE ZERKALO


Vote Cheesums

Unvote CheeseumPuffs

Vote Nebulous

Vote Nebulous.


Vote nebulous


Vote cheese

votes ruminator

UNVOTE RUMINATOR

VOTE CHEESE

unvote Nebulous

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Hadoblado

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Puffy can you be convinced to vote for Cheeseumpuffs?
 

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Vote Hado
 

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vote cheeseum

My phone won't do both bold and colour, CBA to sort it out. Just want a lynch.
 

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RB, Helvete, Puffy, I need you on Cheeseum. That will give us 6, and then we hope that a whimsical lurker stacks on.
 

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Puffy can you be convinced to vote for Cheeseumpuffs?

I can as I want to see a lynch but realistically I do think you've pushed it too late, even if all three of the votes on neb goes to cheeseumpuffs it won't go through.
 

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Neb, zerk.. apply the pressure on Hado?

Lets at least divide the vote. 
 

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At this point in time, anyone who jumps on Cheeseum's wagon is confirmed town if he flips red. If Cheeseum is red, it's almost guaranteed win for town due to the very high number of confirmed towns. This is a way we can get back in this game. It's fucking important alright?
 

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unvote Nebulous
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Done.
 

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Sinny 99% town. But also, please gtfo of my way on this.

Puffy if it doesn't make any difference, then vote Cheeseumpuffs.
 

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Neb, zerk.. apply the pressure on Hado?

Lets at least divide the vote. 

sinny that's not how the game works. 7 votes are needed for a lynch, divided means nothing. If you want to see a lynch at this point its going to be cheeseumpuffs.
 

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At this point in time, anyone who jumps on Cheeseum's wagon is confirmed town if he flips red.

lol

If Cheeseum is red, it's almost guaranteed win for town due to the very high number of confirmed towns. This is a way we can get back in this game. It's fucking important alright?

Let's say I don't flip red, though. I'm dead. I'm town. The mafia is free to kill me off without raising any suspicion of cooperation. YOu get no confirmed townies.

What then?
 

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I would stress we probably have 10 minutes btw.
 

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1. Hadoblado - 2, Cheeseumpuffs, Sinny91
2. Nebulous - 1, redbaron
3. Happy - 0
4. Zerkalo - 1, Artsu Tharaz
5. ruminator - 0
6. redbaron -0
7. Puffy - 0
8. Rook - Vanilla Townie
9. Helvete - 0
10. Cheeseumpuffs - 5, Zerkalo, Nebulous, Hadoblado, Helvete, Puffy
11. Sinny91 - 0
12. EyeSeeCold - 0
13. Artsu Tharaz - 0

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Not voting: Happy, ruminatior, EyeSeeCold,

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vote happy

unvote happy

vote Ruminator

Vote Ruminator

Vote ruminator

vote ruminator.


vote Nebulous

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vote Nebulous

Vote Nebulous

vote artsu

UN VOTE ESC

VOTE NEBULOUS

vote Nebulous

Unvote WhoeverIVotedBefore

Vote Cheeseumpuffs

I VOTE ZERKALO


Vote Cheesums

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Vote Nebulous

Vote Nebulous.


Vote nebulous


Vote cheese

votes ruminator

UNVOTE RUMINATOR

VOTE CHEESE

unvote Nebulous

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vote hado

Vote Hado

vote cheeseum

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Sunny hado will be lynched day 2 if he survives the night. We need a lynch today and dividing the votes serves no purpose if you are town. Stop helping the mafia agenda and vote cheese
 

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Unvote Nebulous

Vote Cheesums


 

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Sinny you're actually fucking terrible if you're town. Like I said it's not that I think you're mafia, it's that if you were to flip to Cheesums right now and he turns out RED, we get a lot of info on everyone who voted for him.
 

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Shit I don't have time to catch up.

I didn't want to vote but I mustvote Hado. If I die tonight, I want pitchforks pointed at Hado, redbaron and helvete and Happy.
 

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Okay five minutes remaining.

I'm updating my will to include Sinny along with RB as 100% town. Note that I am not compelled to do so. Sinny is no threat to me even if she's got her picket line out. This is a genuine read. They are trusted town.
 

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unvote hado
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ONLY OPEN THIS IF 7 VOTES GUARANTEES MY DEATH IMMEDIATELY
Good luck with ALLLLL of that information you've gathered.

SAVFDHX.png
 

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Sinny you're actually fucking terrible if you're town. Like I said it's not that I think you're mafia, it's that if you were to flip to Cheesums right now and he turns out RED, we get a lot of info on everyone who voted for him.

redbaron, you need to bold your red vote as QT told me he wouldn't accept votes if they're not bolded anymore.
 

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Vote Cheese

Sighhhhhhhhhhhhhh
 

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Okay just going to say that ESC is another either terrible player or mafia. More inclined to think he's mafia and riding Sinny's wave for ease of use. Lets him fly under the radar while still getting work done for the scum.

Because it should be HUGELY appparent to anyone with a working frontal love that I'm Town.

Hado, Helvete, Happy? Sure.

Me? You're honestly confused.
 

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Shit shit shit he's town
It will all come crashing down on my head
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wtf cheese?
 

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Oh god Cheeseum don't post that shit. Now you're modkilled even if you're not lynched.
 

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EBWOP: ignore, it is bolded I just got confused by the colour.
 

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DO NOT POST!!!

I WILL DO A FINAL VOTE COUNT TO MAKE SURE THINGS ARE ADDED UP CORRECTLY.
 

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Oh fuck I didn't unvote before voting again. Eye's where you been?

My whole end went to shit.
 
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