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[redbaron]

In that same quote I wasn't sure if you were saying you suspected Hado of being cop, or whether you were the cop and had investigated hado. The latter was my theory anyway.

Ah, that's why you NK'd me and not Hado then.

I did start dropping hints that I was the cop later in Day 2 because I realised that it was starting to get a bit too obvious. I could see that the way this game was going, we were going to need the cop to survive if we had any chance of winning.

If cop died and I lived, would have been a loss anyway. Well maybe not, I was pretty intent on tunneling Zerkalo into dust, but Hado convinced me to go on ESC instead (I told you I'd be eternally pissed at you for that, I'll never stop this! )

 

[QuickTwist]

I might make a poll about this, but just asking now, how would you rate my ability to Mod a game like this again? 1-10 where 1 is that I should never do it again and 10 being I should do it at every opportunity.

 

[redbaron]

I guess for me I'll have to reconcile being able to make my confident reads into being able to demonstrate to the rest of the town why they also should be confident in my reads.

EDIT: @QT: I rate you 10/10 by default because I thoroughly enjoyed the game and I don't know any better about how you could have changed it. At no point did I feel like your modding was hampering any of the fun, so I can't mark you down.

EDIT2: OMG I CAN EDIT AGAIN I DON'T NEED TO QUINTUPLET POST EVERY TIME OMG FREEDOM IS SO SWEET

 

[Cheeseumpuffs]

Hado's QT is both and incredibly enlightening and incredibly funny read. He establishes his method of conducting himself for sound reasons and then slowly goes "oh, I shouldn't have done that" more and more.

 

[Cheeseumpuffs]

8.5/10 for the hardline Rook kill and also for a couple instances where your vote tallies weren't totally correct.

Edit: lol whoops, forgot editing was allowed again

 

[Nebulous]

I might make a poll about this, but just asking now, how would you rate my ability to Mod a game like this again? 1-10 where 1 is that I should never do it again and 10 being I should do it at every opportunity.

10000 yo you were fantastic. Thanks so much for setting up the game and modding and everything. Super thanks.

 

[redbaron]

I don't even blame you for the Rook kill. I'd have done it first game as mod too. Leniency by mods just allows for laxity on the behalf of the players - and a lax playerbase makes a game like mafia totally pointless.

 

[Jennywocky]

aw man, I left for an hour and look what happened!


... outside observer POV. I had decided Zerk was mafia about half an hour before the game ended. Wasn't sure between Puffy and Hado; I was sure one of them was, but it could have gone either way. Artu? No idea. Guy didn't post much that I remember.

I really wasn't sure who anyone was, earlier in the game, just watching; too much uncertainty of who was playing well, who was playing badly, and who was purposefully lying/misdirecting... there is some overlap there.

I think it's hilarious that Hado had everyone so confused.

EDIT: Reading the mafia QT, you guys are hilarious! I can't stop laughing, you totally were watching the townies win the game for you and just sitting back and letting them do it.

EDIT2:

Hado's QT is both and incredibly enlightening and incredibly funny read. He establishes his method of conducting himself for sound reasons and then slowly goes "oh, I shouldn't have done that" more and more.

Yeah.

Love ya, Hado. I just finished reading it. Yeah, started very sure and rational but it just got more overwhelming for you as things progressed; I felt kind of bad for you. But there was a method there. It's too bad the last vote got rushed, since you would have declared as cop.

Also, gratz on going for Artu, just a little too late for it to count.

 

[Puffy]

Since you were mafia you had no reason to stop the vote against Nebulous so why did you do it? You reneged both the Neb and Cheese vote so I thought that seemed consistent in a town way.

Puffy on the other hand had no chill and straight up referenced personal stuff to make it seem like I could trust him and to hide his role from the town.


I didn't think both could be true at the same time. mindfuck indeed.

That's the one thing I feel a little ashamed about and I'm genuinely sorry ESC, I hope you didn't take it personally. At the time I knew I needed to side with you to reinforce in Hado's mind that we were both collaborators, and I felt I'd accurately profiled you enough to do that. I knew with the current town that if he led a mislynch on you it'd be possible to push a lynch on him this round, which worked in the end.

 

[redbaron]

I think it's hilarious that Hado had everyone so confused.

Tbh I'm having a hard time understanding why everyone was so confused, and I can only chalk it up to the fact that I have a better meta read on Hado via more out of game interactions.

 

[Cheeseumpuffs]

Tbh I'm having a hard time understanding why everyone was so confused, and I can only chalk it up to the fact that I have a better meta read on Hado via more out of game interactions.

Honestly, after I died I felt like I was noticing him contradicting himself more and more. Like his massive influx of posting started hurting him. Now I was too lazy to go through and analyze everything, but he just seemed to be using the same manipulative rhetoric that he was calling everyone else out for using.


Edit: I keep getting a little burst of happiness every time my name gets mentioned in these QTs. It's like I'm the (dead) belle of the ball!

 

[Puffy]

Ah, that's why you NK'd me and not Hado then.

I did start dropping hints that I was the cop later in Day 2 because I realised that it was starting to get a bit too obvious. I could see that the way this game was going, we were going to need the cop to survive if we had any chance of winning.

If cop died and I lived, would have been a loss anyway. Well maybe not, I was pretty intent on tunneling Zerkalo into dust, but Hado convinced me to go on ESC instead (I told you I'd be eternally pissed at you for that, I'll never stop this! )

Yeah, exactly. Plus we knew you suspected Zerkalo, and we knew in the highly possible chance that I'd die in the last day that she'd need to go on for the win as Artsu was AWOL for the game.

I thought Happy was cop and had confirmed Hado, had suspicions on you and me and would investigate one of us. Just of the two of you I thought it more likely to get a lynch on Hado, and knew if you were in the game you'd cut through that bullshit immediately and needed to be NKed to isolate Hado and make him vulnerable. Happy would defend him (if he was cop), but wouldn't be able to cop claim.

At that point I was going for a Hado lynch, or a divided vote between me and Hado would've been fine. We were planning for Zerk to bus me in that round to try and gain the trust of the town, but reading Hado's QT I'm unsure if that would've worked if he was in the game.

 

[Sinny91]

Following on from post 943:
http://www.intpforum.com/showpost.php?p=529837&postcount=943

More from our shit cop:

OMG he was town. What the actual fuck. I have no words. Puffy that was master class. You bastard.

Oh god I'm so lost. I'm going to have to have to cop claim to get this game back together. And if I die now? Hmmm I guess Puffy will go down. But shiiiit.

I can't believe he wasn't red?! He was just mimicking sinny so obviously... I thought. Wow my tunnel rage must be intense.

Now sinny is back on the table. Now Happy is back on the table. Now artsu is well... still on the table. Shitshitshit I can't rely on any reads based on voting ESC.
Grawr and I thought I was so clever! Fuck. Fuck. FUUUUUUCK!

Apparently scum can control me, so I'm not nearly as much of a threat to them as I thought previously.

ATM I'm thinking that this game is lost. I all-inned on ESC. If I'd realised we could still talk, I'd have cop-claimed after the last vote was in, then died to NK (with any luck). As is, if they're smart (which apparently they are), they'll leave me alive except this time I don't want to be alive. Two mislynches reduces my influence to basically nothing. Sinny can't vote for anyone but me, which means that there is no way a lynch can go through (need every single town on board for a majority). Even if I cop claim now, it lacks any meaning because Sinny won't believe me. Scum can counter-claim and I'll get lynched then NK and it's mafia victory.

The only way out of this is if Sinny is actually mafia, which, I guess, is something I'm actually genuinely considering now. I'm going to have to reconsider a lot of things... Man I hate taking steps backward.

Alternatively, I could blue claim, and then modkill myself. Is that allowed if it's in town's best interest? That way this lynch would be possible because Sinny would see I'm cop.

 

[Ex-User (11125)]

Puffy you were right about hado...He was too arrogant to check esc :P

 

[redbaron]

Yeah, exactly. Plus we knew you suspected Zerkalo, and we knew in the highly possible chance that I'd die in the last day that she'd need to go on for the win as Artsu was AWOL for the game.

I thought Happy was cop and had confirmed Hado, had suspicions on you and me and would investigate one of us. Just of the two of you I thought it more likely to get a lynch on Hado, and knew if you were in the game you'd cut through that bullshit immediately and needed to be NKed to isolate Hado and make him vulnerable. Happy would defend him (if he was cop), but wouldn't be able to cop claim.

At that point I was going for a Hado lynch, or a divided vote between me and Hado would've been fine. We were planning for Zerk to bus me in that round to try and gain the trust of the town, but reading Hado's QT I'm unsure if that would've worked if he was in the game.

Yeah, I'm annoyed. This was one of my first posts right at the start of Day 2:

http://intpforum.com/showpost.php?p=529049&postcount=418

I fucking booked 2/3 mafia and was ready to tunnel all three into oblivion. But NoOoOoOo HAdO iS lIKe mAFia ANd Rb IS SuSPiCIouS guyTh!!!

-_-

 

[Ex-User (11125)]

You and hado are sharp guys and had as shitting our pants at some points, but all your guesswork is worthless if you fail at conducting yourself in a way that makes other town trust you and that's why you lost

EDIT:
You antagonised everyone with your wrong finger pointing so it's natural they would be reluctant to trust you. you were insisting at some point in the past that they're mafia and they know they're town. You kept forgetting that their role was the only thing they were 100% sure about, so when you pick on rumi or neb or esc (early in the game before he said he didn't suspect cheese) for no good reason, they'll naturally distrust you

 

[redbaron]

Following on from post 943:
http://www.intpforum.com/showpost.php?p=529837&postcount=943

More from our shit cop:

Remind me again who it was withholding a vote on Puffy when we were 1 vote away from a lynch, while simultaneously tunneling the cop the entire game and making it really easy for the mafia to get him lynched?

Also: the game's over now. The mudslinging that comes as part of the game isn't needed anymore. The whole town played poorly, with a combination of:

- some people making bad reads
- some people not being good enough at convincing people of their good reads
- Hado stopped me from tunneling Zerkalo (like I said, I'll eternally hold this against you!!!!!!)

 

[Sinny91]

@Hado you were damn good at cop but I think you went too far, you didn't adapt to either Sinny's or my strong suspicions, since we had two really strong camps RB/Hado vs Sinny/me that's what screwed us up. I think me Sinny and RB played it straight to the town's detriment.

I think if Hado was a good cop, that would show in the games results.

 

[redbaron]

You and hado are sharp guys and had as shitting our pants at some points, but all your guesswork is worthless if you fail at conducting yourself in a way that makes other town trust you and that's why you lost

As arrogant as it sounds, I feel like if the rest of town were actually more experienced/cluey players the game was in the bag. I don't legitimately think we could have ever moved Sinny from tunneling Hado - based on her personality outside of the game, she was going to tunnel him non-stop and even now, despite that fact that it's been demonstrated that she spent the entire game counter-productively tunneling the worst target imaginable - she's still doing mental gymnastics to try and prove she was right.

Should have mod-killed herself, would have literally been better for the town.

 

[Sinny91]

Remind me again who it was withholding a vote on Puffy when we were 1 vote away from a lynch, while simultaneously tunneling the cop the entire game and making it really easy for the mafia to get him lynched?

Also: the game's over now. The mudslinging that comes as part of the game isn't needed anymore. The whole town played poorly, with a combination of:

- some people making bad reads
- some people not being good enough at convincing people of their good reads
- Hado stopped me from tunneling Zerkalo (like I said, I'll eternally hold this against you!!!!!!)

I'm not saying Hado is alone to blame for anything...
But I really think he was a shit cop.

Track record:

*Bossing everyone about
*Keeping up the pace and filing pages upon pages with bullshit
*Mislynching
*Not accommodating the Towns people

First and foremost he wanted to hide the fact he was cop. No matter what it cost the town. He openly admits his renegade, and detrimental behavior in his QT.

@Baron

"Prove I was right"

There is no "proving" anything right, only explaining the processes that were.

 

[QuickTwist]

Hado checked Puffy for all the right reasons, namely because he wanted to know he could trust them because he knows Puffy could be pretty influential in a game like this. When your Cop its best to investigate people who have the most pull in a game, not to confirm you read on someone.

 

[redbaron]

First and foremost he wanted to hide the fact he was cop. No matter what it cost the town.

You absolute doofus.

The cop is the most important player to town. As a townie, we should be supporting him in hiding the fact he was cop.

If you're town, the last thing you want is for the mafia to figure out who is cop.
Also he did consider a role-claim at certain points, but he openly said that the thing that stops him is that he knows Sinny will just not believe it by default, which will then result in mafia jumping on that bandwagon and saying, "yeah I agree with Sinny, that's totally suss!" and getting himself lynched.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

So the way I see it it's either Puffy, Hado and Red ||| Zerk, Neb and Puffy/Hado/Red

^^ I was close. Artsu's unavailability was really a fluke/anomaly so that threw all of us off I think, but the 6/7 Nebulous vote and Cheese lynch was telling imo.

That's the one thing I feel a little ashamed about and I'm genuinely sorry ESC, I hope you didn't take it personally. At the time I knew I needed to side with you to reinforce in Hado's mind that we were both collaborators, and I felt I'd accurately profiled you enough to do that. I knew with the current town that if he led a mislynch on you it'd be possible to push a lynch on him this round, which worked in the end.

I understood early on it would be no holds barred but I didn't realize I should have been much more paranoid. No hard feelings. Just remind me not to piss you off.


@Redbaron, Hado no hard feelings either.

Tbh I'm having a hard time understanding why everyone was so confused, and I can only chalk it up to the fact that I have a better meta read on Hado via more out of game interactions.

You guys were the most aggressive and active, I should have known that was too obvious but the pool of people who could be mafia besides you two was pretty murky. It didn't help that ruminator, Happy and artsu weren't as active which made everyone else seem like one big amorphous blob to me.

 

[Jennywocky]

Tbh I'm having a hard time understanding why everyone was so confused, and I can only chalk it up to the fact that I have a better meta read on Hado via more out of game interactions.

I think that's very true.

Hado was obviously deploying a strategy and easily talked the most in the game, dominating how things unfolded. I just couldn't tell from the outside whether it was a strategy to find the mafia or a strategy to pretend not to be mafia. Now that I've seen this, that gives me a point of calibration so I'm aware of the range of his behavior as a town.

Edit: I keep getting a little burst of happiness every time my name gets mentioned in these QTs. It's like I'm the (dead) belle of the ball!

Can I call you Laura Mars?

 

[QuickTwist]

If you guys are interested in a more complicated setup I have one I am planning on running on another site. Feel free to ask me about it or look it up on SC2Mafia. I gave a link to it in the sign up thread.

 

[Ex-User (11125)]

Imo rb and hado could have had a better chance at winning if hado was a vanilla townie

 

[redbaron]

@Redbaron, Hado no hard feelings either.

You guys were the most aggressive and active, I should have known that was too obvious but the pool of people who could be mafia besides you two was pretty murky. It didn't help that ruminator, Happy and artsu weren't as active which made everyone else seem like one big amorphous blob to me.

Yeah all good man. I honestly didn't know where to go with it because I was just thinking, "that's just way too obvious, even for me. Puh-lease."

My honest assessment is that both Hado and I over-reacted to your accusations of us. I think the Town pretty much assured it's demise, because they were taking accusations too seriously, when realistically an actual good town would be making accusations.

Also I'm still pissed off that Hado stopped me from tunneling Zerkalo and pulled me onto you. I'm actually real sorry about that because looking back I had 2 really good reads and I was ready to just fucking hammer those guys to the point that the game just didn't even become fun for them.

Instead I did it to you :/

Hado checked Puffy for all the right reasons, namely because he wanted to know he could trust them because he knows Puffy could be pretty influential in a game like this. When your Cop its best to investigate people who have the most pull in a game, not to confirm you read on someone.

Mental gymnastics from Sinny in 3...
2...
1...

Backflips!

 

[redbaron]

There is no "proving" anything right, only explaining the processes that were.

That's cute, considering you had basically one process the entire game.

HErp DerP I FoUND aN AUthoRiTy FIGure! They MusT be MAFia!! *engage tunnel-vision*

Even now it's hilarious that you're still tunnel-visioning and finding every possible argument imaginable for how it's Hado's fault you tunneled him for the entire game.

Like, you didn't even try to build a believable case for why anyone would actually be mafia or for why anyone would actually be town. It was just:

"Hado is authority, therefore mafia. Anyone who agrees with me is likely town. Anyone who doesn't is likely mafia. I am very smart. Game so obvious, such boring, wow. Hado so clearly and blatantly mafia, so easy for my towering intellect, you are all dumb."

 

[Puffy]

As arrogant as it sounds, I feel like if the rest of town were actually more experienced/cluey players the game was in the bag. I don't legitimately think we could have ever moved Sinny from tunneling Hado - based on her personality outside of the game, she was going to tunnel him non-stop and even now, despite that fact that it's been demonstrated that she spent the entire game counter-productively tunneling the worst target imaginable - she's still doing mental gymnastics to try and prove she was right.

Should have mod-killed herself, would have literally been better for the town.

I do agree with you, in that I think you and Hado played better than me and zerk, and that we won because we took advantage of a favourable situation. I've treated this game as a learning experience, that I was on the winning team is redundant as I know I made tons of errors.

But realistically even before the game started I knew you and sinny would go against each other (wtf would have happened if you were both mafia lmao,) and that's why realistically I wouldn't have NKed you on the first day in most scenarios. It's too predictable that you and her would always antagonise each other to our benefit.

It's likely there's nothing you could have done about that, but factoring in the social dynamics of the people you're playing with is a part of the play. I don't know if from the position of a town member I would've been able to accurately profile ESC, for example, I might have been able to as we've interacted a fair bit.

 

[Cheeseumpuffs]

Can I call you Laura Mars?

This is a reference I don't know. 70s horror thrillers aren't really in my wheelhouse.

If you guys are interested in a more complicated setup I have one I am planning on running on another site. Feel free to ask me about it or look it up on SC2Mafia. I gave a link to it in the sign up thread.

I'm down to play again, but I think I want to stick to more vanilla games for the time being.

 

[Sinny91]

Hado checked Puffy for all the right reasons, namely because he wanted to know he could trust them because he knows Puffy could be pretty influential in a game like this. When your Cop its best to investigate people who have the most pull in a game, not to confirm you read on someone.

Well, he just ended up costing us townies (which cost us the game), and implicating himself as mafia. From my POV.

He was instrumental in getting rid of Eyes, who was a strong Townie player.. in comparison to say, Happy.

 

[QuickTwist]

Hado's mistake was trying to control everything that happened in the game. Sometimes you have to let the thread breath a bit, notice observations, think, and then comment. If Hado can learn this he will be a pretty good player. The only time posting as much as Hado did can help him is if everyone is on board with him being town. Once that is established, its not bad for people to sheep a known Townie. All too often on my homesite people are so independent in their thinking that its hard to find common ground within town. sheeping is not bad in itself but it is situational.

 

[QuickTwist]

Well, he just ended up costing us townies (which cost us the game), and implicating himself as mafia. From my POV.

He was instrumental in getting rid of Eyes, who was a strong Townie player.. in comparison to say, Happy.

Well I agree that Hado didn't play a perfect game, but it is pretty much Towns fault for Lynching him before he could defend himself. If he would have claimed and said Puffy was Mafia, things could have gone a lot differently. Sure he would have died that night, but Town would have had a better shot at winning.

 

[Puffy]

@QT I had no issue with your moderation and enjoyed the game a lot.

I'm sorry if I came across like I was complaining against you in game a few times. I couldn't tell if it was allowed and a part of the game mechanics, but I did take advantage of it (namely, the whole unvoting myself thing.)

 

[Jennywocky]

This is a reference I don't know. 70s horror thrillers aren't really in my wheelhouse.

Actually it's 90's "Twin Peaks," but I never really watched the series myself...

 

[redbaron]

But realistically even before the game started I knew you and sinny would go against each other

I wasn't going to go against Sinny at all. I came into this game to do 1 thing: win.

I always play for keeps, I pull no punches and I don't care how it goes. It just ended up becoming evident by Day 2 that there was literally no way to get Sinny to stop tunneling Hado.

 

[Sinny91]

Well I agree that Hado didn't play a perfect game, but it is pretty much Towns fault for Lynching him before he could defend himself. If he would have claimed and said Puffy was Mafia, things could have gone a lot differently. Sure he would have died that night, but Town would have had a better shot at winning.

He should have called cop before. He said as much.

He knew what was happening but didn't act to stop it.

As demonstrated here:
http://www.intpforum.com/showpost.php?p=529866&postcount=963

As a confirmed Townie on the straight and narrow he understood that I could not trust his wishy washy record... the record he made wishy washy on purpose to 'confuse' the mafia... the mafia who already know he's not mafia, and instead he only succeeded in confusing Town and getting the Town lynched.. Especially when pushing a 'read' he didn't confirm (EYES).. he's the bloody cop, he shouldn't be engineering anything he isn't sure about.. that's his bloody job.. TO BE SURE.

Urakro:

Sinny is just trigger-happy. Puffy can't be mafia

I pinned him as a competent potential from the start.

 

[QuickTwist]

@QT I had no issue with your moderation and enjoyed the game a lot.

I'm sorry if I came across like I was complaining against you in game a few times. I couldn't tell if it was allowed and a part of the game mechanics, but I did take advantage of it (namely, the whole unvoting myself thing.)

That's ok. I think the rule might have been unclear once people started Unvoting in lime color. I didn't want to spell it out, but I was sure not to include it in the VC. I was hoping people would be paying more attention to the VC to do Vote Count Analysis (VCA), but that day never came in this game.

 

[Jennywocky]

Hey QT...

I was a little unsure how it would go when you chose to run the game, and the Rook thing bothered me, but after watching the whole thing and also reading some of the QTs behind the scenes and seeing your thought process and the way you approached stuff (and yeah, I understand about Rook now)... You did a good job. Thanks for running the game.

 

[QuickTwist]

Hey QT...

I was a little unsure how it would go when you chose to run the game, and the Rook thing bothered me, but after watching the whole thing and also reading some of the QTs behind the scenes and seeing your thought process and the way you approached stuff (and yeah, I understand about Rook now)... You did a good job. Thanks for running the game.

NP, you're free to play in the next game I host if you want to. Anyone can really play, but its kinda on a first come first serve basis.

 

[Ex-User (11125)]

factoring in the social dynamics of the people you're playing with is a part of the play

Exactly.

As for QT: same as jenny

 

[redbaron]

He should have called cop before. He said as much.

He knew what was happening but didn't act to stop it.

LOL @ this.

It's in the town's best interest to play in a manner conducive the cop not having to role-claim, because as soon as they do: they're dead and the town loses their services.

The only reason he felt like he should have role-claimed is because you stubbornly tunneled him on the basis of, "hE'Z AN AuthORiTy FIguRE guyZ!1!1"

The town divide came about because one side thought that good strategy was to just have a No Lynch if you're unsure, and others understood that a Lynch is important Day 1.

Best time to No Lynch is when you've got lower town numbers, because you can extend the game and force the mafia to play an extra Day. When the town numbers are high, there's no point - and if you No Lynch, you lose the ability to use voting trails to track mafia.

By voting cheeseums on Day 1, even though we lost 1 townie - it gave enough information that I was able to accurately pick 2/3 mafia. How can anyone say that getting a read on 2 mafia as a result of losing 1 townie is a bad thing?

 

[QuickTwist]

He should have called cop before. He said as much.

He knew what was happening but didn't act to stop it.

As demonstrated here:
http://www.intpforum.com/showpost.php?p=529866&postcount=963

I don't think it was from lack of effort, lets be honest.

 

[QuickTwist]

Exactly.

As for QT: same as jenny

You played a really good mafia game for not wanting to be mafia, gunna just say that right now.

 

[redbaron]

@QT sign me up for next game. I'd prefer a more basic setup because I think we'll have some more new players and extra roles would make it pretty hard for them. Also unsure how I feel about added roles

 

[Cheeseumpuffs]

Actually it's 90's "Twin Peaks," but I never really watched the series myself...

Oh, google just showed me this. Regardless, the 90s weren't my time pop culturally speaking, seeing as I was barely alive then. Hell, I barely remember the carttons from back then.


Also if signups are happening now, I'd like to play another simple game.

 

[Puffy]

I kind of really want to and could possibly fit one more game in before I move. Let me know what numbers are like. I'd also prefer a more basic set-up.

 

[QuickTwist]

@QT sign me up for next game. I'd prefer a more basic setup because I think we'll have some more new players and extra roles would make it pretty hard for them. Also unsure how I feel about added roles

Oh, google just showed me this. Regardless, the 90s weren't my time pop culturally speaking, seeing as I was barely alive then. Hell, I barely remember the carttons from back then.


Also if signups are happening now, I'd like to play another simple game.

I'd be happy to host again! I can do the same exact setup or I can do a setup like the one I talked about with Cheeseum, with a cop and a doc for town with a Roleblocker for mafia. Its really up to you guys. If we get enough people interested I can make a 17 player game as well. That would have 4 mafia and the rest town. its up to you guys what kind of Power Roles you want in the game.

Like I said in the Spectators/Dead Thread, this is not an easy game that you can just master your first time playing. Its the kind of game that you get better with experience. You will learn certain tricks along the way and tells on people. It gets really fun.

 

[Hadoblado]

Buh!

I thought day was just starting now. Forgot that the cycles got shorter with each iteration.

Day one investigation: Puffy

Day two investigation: Ruminator, but if I had have taken into account the changed days, it would have been artsu. I tried to change and was just wandering why QT wouldn't let me change my mind XD

Yeah responsibility for this game is certainly on my shoulders. I intentionally made it about me because I thought there was no way a noobie and understaffed town were ever going to have as good a read as an experienced player who also happened to be cop. If I couldn't solve it, the game was lost. Which is kinda true. Sinny as much as I mislynched, you getting your way would have been a mislynch or a no-lynch too. So I only really think I did worse than the people that had a read on Puffy, Zerk, and Artsu, and the people I lynched.

@scumteam
Zerk and Puffy you were fantastic. I never genuinely suspected Zerk as a real read, and Puffy you were only mildly scummy until my investigation confirmed you. Artsu your decision to lurk panned out fine, though obviously choosing not to play and having it work is less impressive than choosing to play and convincing us of your townhood.

Cheeseum and ESC I am so bloody sorry.

Sinny I tunneled so hard on ESC I couldn't not see how he was manipulating you. I don't know what his gameplan was, but I was so confident I actually felt sorry for you. MB.

I gtg to work. I've got a lot of juicy notes in my QT that make me look absolutely fucking retarded, but some of them specifically I need to refrain from posting due to them being about other things. So I'll parse it and share all the embarrassing stuff but only what pertained to this game specifically.

Bai! <3

 

[Cheeseumpuffs]

Cheeseum and ESC I am so bloody sorry.