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Do ALL INTPs like Computers, Math and Logic?

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This may be a slightly stupid question, but I really want to know...

Are there any INTPs here who are NOT especially interested in/proficient in things like formal logic, mathematics, biology, chemistry, physics, computer programming etc., but are more interested in/proficient in literature, the arts, social sciences, etc.?

If someone feels that, from a cognitive functions perspective, they are INTP, but they just find they have more interest and ability in the arts and "soft sciences" than in math and "hard sciences," should they seriously consider the possibilty they are actually another type (such as NF or something), or is it fairly common for INTPs to be more "artistic" than "scientific"?
 

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Humanities INTP's (yes there are a few, both public figures and not) tend to be Ne heavy (Ne-Ti). Ti-Ne (the natural 'stack' for an INTP) tend to have both humanities and science backgrounds but be more into science. As INTP's develop the natural progression is Ti first develops when they are quite young, then they go into a Ne humanities phase. As this can happen in the teenage years I believe some INTP's can get 'stuck' there and remain humanities geeks. I don't mean that pejoratively.

Some - not a lot it seems - go into for example Philosophy and appear to have the proper Ti-Ne-Si-Fe functional stack but are in the humanities. These often have an analytical approach to their work. So sometimes you do see an analytical INTP in the humanities which probably means they just have the natural Ti-Ne strength ordering.

Some examples of public humanities INTP's are Jim Parsons (probable INTP) and Larry David (definite INTP), Paul Wolfowitz (very highly probable INTP).

Anecdote, I was a huge humanities geek as a teenager, people around me hit the roof when I went into science. My INTP son is presently humanities focused, partially because math and science at this age is heavily S oriented, and probably because of the developing Ne.
 

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I can't speak for anyone besides my self but I am most interested in Math and Hard Sciences. However, I do like Philosophy, History, Theology and Psychology (mostly criminal psychology). These may be consider soft sciences. However in generally I think INTP seek out knowledge it really doesn't matter what form it comes in. This is why even though many INTPs are not into things like Sports, Cars, and Fashion the ones that are, are very knowledgeable about these subjects.

I think the Cognitive functions of the INTP make them knowledge hungry and sometimes this knowledge is not traditional INTP knowledge though I would suspect that many INTPs that have interest in things not traditionally associated with INTPness also have other interests in at least some Hard Science/Math. Of course I could be wrong this is just my educated guess.
 

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I didn't even know what computers were for until the Internet came along. I don't know whether I have some kind of mental block to math, or whether I just plain suck at it. If I'm not good at math, it would be logical to assume I'm not good at logic, either.

I don't know whether being given to a dogged pursuit of the facts, to the point of annoying the shit out of other people, has any bearing on the subject.
 

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I've never had much patience for the hard sciences or math. Logic and statistics are of interest to me but I've never really gotten too deep into either subject (only introductory courses).

I'd say the explanation is inferior Fe. The fundamental paradox of my existence is that I am fascinated by human beings but cannot stand their presence. I find humanistic subjects interesting because they focus on humans in the aggregate, whereas an individual human will usually strike me as boring or aggravating.

Technical subjects such as the sciences and engineering could be used toward bettering one's understanding of human beings, but I prefer the immediacy of humanities and even the arts as my paradigms of choice in this pursuit. Foregoing "objectivity" and withstanding allegations of "pseudo-scientific" methodology are sacrifices that don't weigh very heavily on my mind.
 

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We're rationals, we like logic. Black and white, yes and no, 1 or 0. It's hard to argue with a computer, unless you start trying to tell the random number generator what to do.

I for one, love the unknown, uncontrollable, fluid, ever dynamic parts of life. It adds a twist to the granite world we develop to live in.

Remember you're your own person and you don't have to allow a set of rules that is designated to INTPs structure your life.
 

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Humanities INTP's (yes there are a few, both public figures and not) tend to be Ne heavy (Ne-Ti).

There are certainly Humanities INTPs, but is it conceivable to have a social science INTP? Since I would think that I'm one...

While I don't study mathematics, computer science, or formal logic, I do like all of them to an extent. So, as to the OP's question..."Do all ESFJs want to raise a family?"
 

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Are there any INTPs here who are NOT especially interested in/proficient in things like formal logic, mathematics, biology, chemistry, physics, computer programming etc., but are more interested in/proficient in literature, the arts, social sciences, etc.?

If someone feels that, from a cognitive functions perspective, they are INTP, but they just find they have more interest and ability in the arts and "soft sciences" than in math and "hard sciences," should they seriously consider the possibilty they are actually another type (such as NF or something), or is it fairly common for INTPs to be more "artistic" than "scientific"?
Tons of people introducing themselves here or posting in School/Work have expressed their dislike of mathematics.

The issue with such stereotypes though is that being interested in scientific themes is not the same as actually obtaining scientific education and working in the science fields; armchair interest vs real work. Also those stereotypes are assumed, there's nothing about the functions that inherently say one should be attracted to any field over another(it's more likely to be a question of 'how / why' rather than 'what').
 

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I am a humanities geek, I especially love political science, which is my major. But I am also very into philosophy, where formal logic and reasoning come into play.

Besides, I find that while math is useful, it is too naked to hold my interest all by itself. People are walking paradoxes, and their behaviors span form the ultra brilliant to the hideously stupid. So it is interesting to study their relationships. The best way to do this is a combination of empirical study, and philosophical inquiry. Hence I am a political scientist, a studier of human behavior and development through power relationships.

I am also a classical musician who plays two instruments, trumpet and violin. While I consider myself average at best, it is musical theory where I excel. This is simply math applied to a creative purpose.

I think the true mark of an INTP is the way they go about things, not the subject matter itself. But it should be noted that in all of my pursuits that the scientific and mathematical principles are all there, they are just being applied differently, and not necessarily in pure form.
 

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There are certainly Humanities INTPs, but is it conceivable to have a social science INTP?

Sure, I almost double majored or minored in psych in college. I find psychology fascinating, while the professional field abhorrent (it's both too intellectual and too fuzzy, figure that out).
 

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I'll state it blunty. Yes, by law of functions all INTPs like computers and logic, unless they're stupid or traumatized. I think this should be the Turing test for the INTP. If you don't like this stuff, then you're not INTP and you should highly consider yourself another type.
 

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Damnit Words I was going to feel fine admitting I don't like computers until your post...

I don't like computers. I spend a very large amount of time on them, but they are one of my least favourite things in the universe. I don't know how they work, and while they are supposed to be some sort of 'perfect logic' box, the number of times they seem to not live up to this reputation confuses me.

My computer will shut down for no reason, then refuse to turn on until I go get a friend to look at it, in which case it springs to life at a touch.

I've been meaning to go and learn about the inner workings of computers for a long time, but the built up conditioning of frequent computer helplessness makes me rather evasive.

I also am a psych major/philo minor. I love logic and I have a talent for maths (though I don't enjoy it). I'm not stupid, though I may be traumatised :P

"I find psychology fascinating, while the professional field abhorrent (it's both too intellectual and too fuzzy, figure that out." ~ Archie

This is actually one of the reasons I'm in love with the field. There is so much to be discovered, and so much bullshit to be debunked. It's like a playground.
 

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i can see the affinity towards 'logic' and 'math', but computers dont necessarily fit into a pattern there (at least to me). Logic and math are things that have been around for a long time, and ARE apart of computers, but to me its just different (think, BEFORE the existence of cpus) not just the written descriptions, or understanding...the instrinsic sort of things that are just apart of this universe's operation manual....

but computers are relatively new. and they are a man made object. math and logic are not (at least to some degree).

so i guess im sayin, yea it would make sense. but its just another one of those corridors that i believe could be applied to other personalities as well.
 

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"I find psychology fascinating, while the professional field abhorrent (it's both too intellectual and too fuzzy, figure that out." ~ Archie

This is actually one of the reasons I'm in love with the field. There is so much to be discovered, and so much bullshit to be debunked. It's like a playground.

A friend's daughter was being evaluated for autism. The city shrinks would do things like count how many times the kid looked an adult in the eye. Apparently if it wasn't enough then she would be labeled autie and sent to special classes.

Sure autistic kids don't look adults in the eye, but correlation isn't causation. Maybe this kid just doesn't like eye contact? That's what it turned out to be. Luckily the kid didn't get labeled for other reasons.
 

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Humanities INTP's (yes there are a few, both public figures and not) tend to be Ne heavy (Ne-Ti). Ti-Ne (the natural 'stack' for an INTP) tend to have both humanities and science backgrounds but be more into science. As INTP's develop the natural progression is Ti first develops when they are quite young, then they go into a Ne humanities phase. As this can happen in the teenage years I believe some INTP's can get 'stuck' there and remain humanities geeks. I don't mean that pejoratively.

Some - not a lot it seems - go into for example Philosophy and appear to have the proper Ti-Ne-Si-Fe functional stack but are in the humanities. These often have an analytical approach to their work. So sometimes you do see an analytical INTP in the humanities which probably means they just have the natural Ti-Ne strength ordering.

Some examples of public humanities INTP's are Jim Parsons (probable INTP) and Larry David (definite INTP), Paul Wolfowitz (very highly probable INTP).

Anecdote, I was a huge humanities geek as a teenager, people around me hit the roof when I went into science. My INTP son is presently humanities focused, partially because math and science at this age is heavily S oriented, and probably because of the developing Ne.

So is that why I feel far more wonder while reading the text of Wikipedia articles on physics, astronomy, and cosmology than I do while reading the formulas on the same pages-- even when I can perfectly well understand and use them?

-Duxwing
 

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A friend's daughter was being evaluated for autism. The city shrinks would do things like count how many times the kid looked an adult in the eye. Apparently if it wasn't enough then she would be labeled autie and sent to special classes.

Sure autistic kids don't look adults in the eye, but correlation isn't causation. Maybe this kid just doesn't like eye contact? That's what it turned out to be. Luckily the kid didn't get labeled for other reasons.

Psychiatric diagnostics is so conjectural, it's largely bullshit.

On a semi-related note, have you heard about the 'facilitated communication' debacle? I wasn't sure whether I should laugh or cry.
 

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A friend's daughter was being evaluated for autism. The city shrinks would do things like count how many times the kid looked an adult in the eye. Apparently if it wasn't enough then she would be labeled autie and sent to special classes.

Sure autistic kids don't look adults in the eye, but correlation isn't causation. Maybe this kid just doesn't like eye contact? That's what it turned out to be. Luckily the kid didn't get labeled for other reasons.

I don't think autism should be diagnosed unless if it's really severe.

It's good to be geeky about a particular topic. It's not necessary that everyone has to fit in.

We just need to feel comfortable being different.

Being labelled just works against that.
 

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I'm a psychology and philosophy geek. But I'm hyperanalytical in my studies — I just focus on what interests me.
 

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its incredibly easy to just check out the DSM manuals and give docs what they want, in order to obtain what you want. with a bit of research, acting, and smooth deception skills, manipulating the game is easy (with certain disorders). its costly and sort of pointless, but when u have the resources, it could be good for funding/supplying an army of adderall starved college students for a sizeable profit :D (my prior days of "far less judgement")
 

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*INFP alert*

I only started loving maths when it started getting related to computers.

Before that, and especially before algebra, maths was no fun at all.

Architect said:
A friend's daughter was being evaluated for autism. The city shrinks would do things like count how many times the kid looked an adult in the eye. Apparently if it wasn't enough then she would be labeled autie and sent to special classes.

:eek:
 

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Computers are pretty useful for doing a lot of shit - making/playing music, buying shit online, selling shit online, having a web server (if you have a business or forum), posting on forums, playing games, writing emails when calling people isn't a good idea, watching movies, pirating software...and probably porn.

I'd be surprised if anyone here didn't like computers, especially when to post here they have to use one.


As for math and logic, nobody really likes it until they can do something they like with it. But to do that, you first have to learn it. I think INTPs at least have an interest in learning math and logic to achieve some goal. Otherwise, you wouldn't be willing to invest the time and energy in learning math and logic?
 

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I don't really like computers. I like doing things on computers, but I hate fiddling with them. I was good at math when I was younger, but teachers forcing me to show work turned me off for years. It wasn't till my 3rd year of college till I started to like math again. That being said I still am having to reteach myself how to do long division.

I took a logic class with some SJ friends once. It was funny how they got mad at me for acing the class and still not knowing any of the terms. They'd always ask me, "Why? How do you know that's the answer?" It just comes natural to me. It was almost as if I just knew, but of course knowledge doesn't work that way. The process just happens so fast it seems instant.

I do prefer the social sciences. Although, I hate anthropology. It's a bastard science, that tries so hard to prove that it's worth it's own title. The humanities reach out to me more than the sciences. That could be from my up bringing, though. I was raised in a science hating house hold. I even fail my 9th grade biology class's second term, because I refused to answer quests about evolution correctly. I would answer them with, "It doesn't matter, because evolution never happened." So perhaps I'm damaged in that area.
 

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I thought you were FiTe?

Math and logic without context or thought of application is without reason; it's then completely abstracted from reality and can teach nothing about it, except to indulge in a fantasy world of mathematics.
 

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Math and logic without context or thought of application is without reason; it's then completely abstracted from reality and can teach nothing about it, except to indulge in a fantasy world of mathematics.

That's learning things for their own sake, for sure. ^_^

But what is it about application that somehow gives the activity reason and meaning?
 

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Math and logic without context or thought of application is without reason; it's then completely abstracted from reality and can teach nothing about it, except to indulge in a fantasy world of mathematics.

Understanding of reality can only come from the premise that there is order in that reality. "Order" is essentially "math" or "logic" itself(or what it's attempting to describe if you treat it as a language). If reality must be understood, then it must be mathematical. If its not mathematical, then reality does not make sense nor is it possible to understand it. Thus, there is no and will never be mathematics that has no reference to reality, because the universe is logical. Certain mathematics only seem inapplicable because science has yet to explore that territory which it can be applied to.

And what's the problem of engaging in a fantasy world? It's just like playing a game. You have fun learning the inner workings of things. It satisfies Ti.
 

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That's learning things for their own sake, for sure. ^_^

But what is it about application that somehow gives the activity reason and meaning?

For me, I get a sense of fulfillment in having things understood in some way. It's...umm...empowering? in a way.

Understanding of reality can only come from the premise that there is order in that reality. "Order" is essentially "math" or "logic" itself(or what it's attempting to describe if you treat it as a language). If reality must be understood, then it must be mathematical. If its not mathematical, then reality does not make sense nor is it possible to understand it. Thus, there is no and will never be mathematics that has no reference to reality, because the universe is logical. Certain mathematics only seem inapplicable because science has yet to explore that territory which it can be applied to.

And what's the problem of engaging in a fantasy world? It's just like playing a game. You have fun learning the inner workings of things. It satisfies Ti.

You can declare what you think is true all you want, but that doesn't necessarily make it so.

If reality is alogical, then it isn't logical, nor illogical; and logic and math would become a way to encapsulate an understanding of reality, but then is not definitely implied in reality either. Your assertions don't apply, if reality is alogical.
 

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from my understanding J types generally need a reason to understand something. My wife is an ISTJ and she refuses to learn anything that isn't practical to here life/career path she hated liberal studies classes and she still get irritated when one of her classes in pharmacy school don't relate to pharmacy directly. She still a genius in her own right, we both both were chemistry majors in Undergrad and she is defiantly an better Chemist than me. However if you were to ask her anything out side of Pharmacy, Human biology and chemistry she would know what you are even talking about. She does have an outside interest in History but even this is almost completly fascinated with the U.S. civil war and she know almost no history out side of U.S history. (she also knows more about the civil war than I do). For here the issues of the civil war are still alive in well in the U.S. this is why she find understanding both sides of the war useful/practical.

On the other hand I don't need a reason to learn anything and I never had a problem taking any class. My least favorite class was English but I still did well in it. However, I an not nearly focused in-depth knowledge to the extent my is able to. To me knowledge is all related therefor no knowledge is useless no matter how obscure it seems. Therefore my interests go well beyond the hard science even though they do top my lists of interests. My personal ideology is not to disregard any information. I believe nearly all information is based at least on a kernel of truth. Therefore the more information you have to process threw the likely you are to see the truth kernels and add them up to new truths.

(Basically if I have two pieces if facts and they don't add up than both are most likely only telling part of the truth you can take the difference to these to and get to another truth until another fact contradicts it. This process go on and on farther redefining the truth. Therefor all information is valid and useful/practical to me.)
 

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umm...well...

On the other hand I don't need a reason to learn anything and I never had a problem taking any class.

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My personal ideology is not to disregard any information. I believe nearly all information is based at least on a kernel of truth. Therefore the more information you have to process threw the likely you are to see the truth kernels and add them up to new truths.

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Contradiction.

If you believe the more information you have to process, the closer you are to see the truth, then you have a reason to learn things.
 

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Contradiction.

If you believe the more information you have to process, the closer you are to see the truth, then you have a reason to learn things.

This is true, however, it is less apparent to everyone observing me. However, for my wife things are much simpler she is more concerned with how information directly effect her life right now. If she need it she will commit it to memory if not she will completely disregard it.

On the other hand I collect knowledge like a hoarder collect stuff. It very possible that much of it will never come use but I store it up for the just encase. I have practical reasoning for doing this however this is more likely internal justification for my practices. My intentions for learning new fact is to wrap these facts into my internal truth matrix. Rather this actually happens to every fact that enters my head is another story all together.

Interesting enough I have a hard time siting sources of my information were my wife could most likely give you a disorientation on ever fact she ever learned.

This is because as soon as I learn a fact to memory it get inserted into my own matrix and incorporated into my own psyche therefore it origins are often lost as personally unimportant. However I do see the logical flaw in arguing form my perspective because I never source outside material even though I only have a few well defined theories that are completely my own (i.e. not altered or flat out theories of others I have accepted in part or whole.). However, one of my favorit quotes is form Albert Einstein on this matter. "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources"
 

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@Hadoblado

I thought you were FiTe?

I don't know the specifics. I have very high Ti, Ne, and Te, which doesn't really fit any particular category. Depending on the test, my other functions tend to shift around a lot. Given that Ti and Ne are two of my three highest rated functions, I now sort of assume that I am XNTP, with some cognitive abnormalities and philosophical positions that masquerade as functions that are not actually put to work.

Regardless of my type, my lack of interest in computers and the harder sciences is conspicuous to anyone that knows me well. Its as if I should enjoy them but don't.
 

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I don't know the specifics. I have very high Ti, Ne, and Te, which doesn't really fit any particular category. Depending on the test, my other functions tend to shift around a lot. Given that Ti and Ne are two of my three highest rated functions, I now sort of assume that I am XNTP, with some cognitive abnormalities and philosophical positions that masquerade as functions that are not actually put to work.

You based your functions on a test? -_-" I thought your prior confidence of having FiTe came from an understanding of functions. A good understanding should finish this.

Regardless of my type, my lack of interest in computers and the harder sciences is conspicuous to anyone that knows me well. Its as if I should enjoy them but don't.

Have you actually tried feeling out those subjects? If you have and are not even slightly interested, then you are not TiNe or that you lack intelligence.
 

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I'm a humanities geek largely - English, Film, History, Psychology - I have an interest in urbanism and could see myself studying design at a later point. INTP doesn't seem likely for me though, I'm likely an Ne or Ni dom.

I'm not sure someone is stupid for not having an interest in science... My school taught maths and science really blandly growing up; it never captured my interest so I didn't opt to do it at college. By now I'm far into my humanities qualifications, and while I read scientific papers with interest, to focus on such would be a u-turn professionally.

I agree with ESC, I think the functions represent approaches to interests rather than the interests, even if Ti might lend itself to computers, logic, maths.
 

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I hate math, and couldn't care less about biology, chemistry, physics, and (especially) computer programming.

Linguistics is more my forte. Noam Chomsky is my hero. Does that kinda sorta count as art?

Also, I like cheese.
 

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Have you actually tried feeling out those subjects? If you have and are not even slightly interested, then you are not TiNe or that you lack intelligence.

That's bullshit. :)
 

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I like learning the structures of programming, and now I'm applying that approach I have to problem-solving with coming up with creative ideas.. I've thought of a few products that would be valuable to make/sell. And I also get prompts and can improve on general ideas from TV/films.. I find myself disproving the substance of sci-fi anime plots, it really annoys me. But I can turn that into inspiration for writing. And that's what you can do if you are a complex thinker.

I hate math though. Someone said you need to learn it to describe things for programming, but I'll deal without it. I spend time learning programming although I really get the feeling I'm not suited to it; I don't like certain aspects of typical programming.. I don't value learning a huge API someone else made, I prefer to stick to examples of how to program specific things.. I worry about how much knowledge I can fit into my head. And certain systems/software stuff isn't priority..

I generally stumble around with my learning, I haven't read many books in my life at all. I read/find lots of things from the Internet, it's such a great resource-- why dive into a book when you can learn the latest from other people who have done it already? (I'm interested in lots of things, so it makes more sense..) Well, certain things you have to learn directly, and that's the best way of learning.. so I do do that too.

It's difficult to explain what I'm interested in, because.. it keeps changing. I've started -feeling- much more in the past year, and over the last 2 years I've found a new love for writing. And 6 months ago I'd never have touched the word 'spirituality' but I would write about it now.

Science as study isn't interesting to me because it's so very inaccessible and esoteric in language. So is programming, and so is Linux, and I've got a low tolerance for getting over that boundary, but I've spent a lot of time with programming so I know it. I guess I should do the same with science, possibly, but it also involves my values about life and what I want to spend my time on. That's most important for me: I think with a worldly mind now, (INTP thing) I try to explain the universe to myself; important use of time is paramount. I know the rough aspects of chaos theory and quantum theory.. I think. What's I've said to someone about it lately was "it doesn't add significance to the human meaning of life". And you know, with the state of the world, why would I waste time on that if it didn't help to philosophize about how to fix the world? And that all factors into my decision-making, as a complex thinker.. because it's all connected, so it's all important. I've seen that my avoidance of learning science is/was more of an emotional bias, but also I have my other reasons as said above.

Although I'm spending time watching anime because I'm bored..

I also spent a day making AHK scripts / a small program of my own to help speed up using my pc. But that's an investment so it's okay to do what I love.. [[trying to draw out my own rationalizations here]]

I'm interested in game design; media; visual communication.. generally-useful things that are starting to pay off at this point. I'm also thinking about activism, because again it ties into the meaning of life, a.. logical/philosophical interest:

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I've always been fascinated with all 3. There is a fundamental beauty in math and logic that can't quite be put into words. It really is amazing how those two concepts tie our universe together. As for computers, well, they're basically math and logic given physical form. :-)
 

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I'm 20 now but teenage years up until now I enjoy and lean towards philosophy, mythology, history, psychology and chemistry . Even though math and science came relativly easy I didn't explore those fields as much .
 

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There are certainly Humanities INTPs, but is it conceivable to have a social science INTP? Since I would think that I'm one...

While I don't study mathematics, computer science, or formal logic, I do like all of them to an extent. So, as to the OP's question..."Do all ESFJs want to raise a family?"

I really enjoy studying the social sciences as well.
 

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No! Absolutely none. Zilch.
 

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Math?

I'm more into meta-physics ATM.

Logic?

It's masturbation...
 

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I love computer technology, but I'm not into the programming/software side of it. I more enjoy the novelty, diagnosing & repairing, and utilizing technology to solve practical issues. I appreciate a nice build but certain components people have seem excessive to me; many people don't even use their computers to their full potential.
 

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Games, yes! I have many. My steam list is pretty long...

Hyper-V for virtualization (I'm a microsoft certified professional)
 

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Math?

I'm more into meta-physics ATM.

Logic?

It's masturbation...

This. My PC is much weaker than that though(due to me not having a job and parents not willing to pay for PC upgrades):

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Oh yea, I haven't bought a game in like 5 years... (torrents! fk yea)
 

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I'm interested in formal sciences and mathematics, but in the context of humanities. I enjoy the theory, philosophy, and history of these subjects and thoroughly enjoy reading about them.

But in actual applications, I either fall short or am only able to use it in an extremely informal context. It benefits me most to think of these things as a parts of a whole, and to aspire to work to think of things in that whole. I'm not sure about everyone else, but I love systems, the more complex the more exciting. Even then, it doesn't mean I can master the system, but I definitely appreciate it.

I fully believe that my stigma for maths is merely a product of poor instructors. I threw out all those painfully-tainted theorems and equation systems. The same for chemistry. Between chemistry and quantum physics, the world comes together for me, but I failed the first semester of intro chem. Nevertheless, I feel qualified enough to scream at the television for lack of vigilant scientific consulting.
 

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INTPs existed before computers, and still exist in the remotest parts of the world where computers don't exist. Many INTPs are illiterate, herd cows, mine precious resources under slavery, are monks, etc.
 

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Any type can conceivably be found doing anything. INTPs get stereotyped as computer-math people because we're the most logical NTs; but unlike INTJs (who have Te) our systems of thought are more flexible. Since Ne is attuned to seeing the possibilities rather than the actualities, this might even result in doing poorly in math or computer science in school, despite strong potential in these areas (many INTPs claim to have been horrible math students in high school, but then they go on to excel in the pure maths).

It's also worth noting that a lot of famous INTPs were philosophers, sociologists, and writers. Wherever there's a field that asks for theories and ideas, INTPs will probably thrive.
 

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I enjoyed math for its own sake. I don't give a damn if I ever have to apply it to anything practical. I'm currently taking discrete math. I'm enjoying learning how to prove math theorems, but I'm ambivalent about graph theory. I'm currently working on a computer science degree.


That said, I enjoy philosophy and psychology more than computers, but it's difficult finding employment in either field. If it were easier, I wouldn't bother with computers. I sometimes consider switching to a psychology master's degree, but again, practicality limits my options.
 

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I love maths and science and all that but I'm also in love with art and design, I love to draw and paint, people tell me I'm a freak of nature :)
 
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