Do ALL INTPs like Computers, Math and Logic?

[WALKYRIA]

-I hated maths(although I was good at it, I considered it merely as a tool for science nothing more!)
-naturally gifted for learning foreign languages and music.

- My favourite subjects were the WHY subjects and the how subjects.( how does it function? why is there injustice? why is there diversity ? why is there nothing rather than something ? god where are you? where are we coming from? are we alone in here? What's the purpose? how do animals think? Who am i? etc..)

-Therefore logicaly... I loved physics the most and philosophy from an early age, than sociology and psychology later( mainly becoz I began to realize I was different from the others(the extroverted sensors!) and wanted to find out WHY exactly !)

-I've never been interested in computers(how it works; what it does!) or engineering; I think it's more for the classical geeky sensors. The sole thing I liked about computers and engineering was it's few applications to robots( robotic engineering ), artificial intelligence and their use in medecine. Later I became addicted to it though, a bit like everyone nowadays I guess.

-The one who invented computers and the internet should be nobelized. Internet(information) is really the catalyst of progress and change.(and chaos !)

-I came to the conclusion that INTP's are only suited for two things : research and creativity pursuit.(thus yes, if you consider art as a "creative pursuit" then...)

 

[TimeAsylums]

I do not enjoy the way these subjects are taught in the education system, but I enjoy every single one of them personally. I like reading books and learning on all of them. However, Logic = #1. And Math is logic, and computers work off of logic and math...ergo, sureprobably more likely to enjoy it.

 

[Jason43]

I hate math and I am computer retarded. I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that I'm an INTP.

The only thing I really like about computers is that there is literally an unlimited amount of information that I can read on them and I try to read it all. I didnt get my first one until I was 18 though, so I didnt grow up with one, probably the last generation that can say that. My knowledge and use of computers is pretty much resigned to research on whatever I see that I dont already know. I'm always on my phone googling things to check for 'correctness'...

I've never been interested in math, not since I took an algebra class and hated it. I loved geometry and I loved math when I was a kid. I also loved history as a kid and steered more in that direction as I started algebra, also english, I even dabbled in art and poetry. I played drums from 11 on and played all kinds of music....

My INTPness still makes patterns and connections out of humanities, history, human behavior, etc... I still look for logic in all of it. I've also always wanted to understand people and what is going on with them, finding this Myers Briggs system was a breakthrough for me... before this people rarely made sense. I agreed with someones statement that I've always had a fascination with people, I just really dont like most of them much.

As far as logic, debates, philosophy etc, I love all of them.

I did meet my GF because she had math jokes on her instagram and I took it as a sign that she was probably a 'rational' and talked to her, she is an INTJ and loves math. We get along like peas and carrots. My mind works mathematically, but math itself just isnt my subject...

 

[Abe]

Personally, I hate math and have very little patience for it. Never the less, I still do alright. As far as science goes, it's the same.

I'm very drawn to art and music. I'm a painter and have a rediculous dream to one day live in Italy or Spain and become a professional.
I've taken multiple personality tests because this aspect of myself (not beig good at math or science) doesn't really go with who I am as an intp, but I'm almost positive I am one. No other personality fits.

 

[timber]

I think anything that can be analyzed can float an INTP's both. Economics is a social science and great economists (Adam Smith, Friedman, ... ) are economists. Jung was probably an INTP and even though he was a psychiatrist, he took the psychology bent - which is a social science.

 

[ActiveMind]

I suck at math, it's probably my worst subject quite honestly. My teachers could never spend enough time with me to answer in depth questions because it would've held back the rest of the class. I think the problem may be the same with other INTPs who aren't proficient at math as well.

Ironically, I find I'm very good at logic and problem solving in other areas. Computers and tech are a must for this guy too. Art and it's technical/creative application is also a hobby. I spent years with art/illustration but could never get a true passion for it where I could do it to support myself.

 

[Ex-User (9062)]

It's a stereotype.
What it boils down to is: it has to interest and fulfill you.
If you are able to overcome your social issues,
there's a whole new world opening up to you.
So, don't focus on the stereotypes, explore the possibilities.

 

[Ex-User (8886)]

For me interesting are brains and computers. If something is near this topics, it is also interesting. If not, it's not interesting.

 

[ENTP lurker]

You guys are Ti dominant Ne auxiliary, Si tertiary. It is a very good for designing systems. Engineering, architecture and such. Mathematics when it is about proving something is a very solitary process indeed. Check out Andrew Wiles video on Youtube (lots of INTPs).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FnXgprKgSE


As an Ne dominant I'm much more interested in reverse engineering than building. I really like the science and its connections. Logic is just a tool for me. I still like the accuracy and I really dislike Te standpoint like it has to be practical.

I'm just saying that you gyus are using dom Ti to build systems (I spend some time with an ISTP pastor [his tert Ni was very twisted]. He was also a "builder" albeit concrete one.) Not necessarily in fields of mathematics, engineering or science. Just like some ENTP can be crooked lawyers by finding loopholes while some of them are cool professors.

 

[Analyzer]

I think the resistance to math,science and other similar topics is the INTP's Ti as well as even Si. Compared to an ISTP, we are more abstract then concrete which makes up a lot of applied math and applied science (Se).

Science and Math can be very Te heavy because it relies on some sort of external system and empiricism. Philosophy, logic, pure math, and other formal sciences which are more rationalism based and are a lot more Ti "friendly" which is more subjective, internal logic.

 

[Sci Nai]

For what it's worth -

In high school, maths and chemistry were my best subjects. Chemistry in particular was far too easy in high school, I studied the least for it and was first in the class. I hated english and economics though. For english, I did the lowest level possible, got tutoring and still did poorly. It was only later in life that I realised that I should have treated it as a joke (lie, make up rubbish etc.). In university, I did poorly in biology/biochemistry. I feel biology/biochemistry is an amazingly complicated subject and at the undergrad level it get simplified down to a bunch of abbreviations which mean nothing (ATP, ADP, NADPH etc). In chemistry, you deal with more defined structures and gain a better understanding on what is going on.

Do I like computers, maths and logic? I like what computers can do and techology in general. I don't mind maths and I like logic. For me though, I like problem solving and creativity. I'm more interested in ideas and possiblities than textbook facts .

 

[ENTP lurker]

Yeah. Biochemistry requires huge amount of memorization. I couldn't pass it. On the other side of chemistry spectrum lies physical chemistry and it was insanely easy when I compared my results to other students. Well I chose analytical as my major and I regret it. It is easier to find job within that field than being a quantum chemistry expert.

 

[Architect]

Do ALL INTPs like Computers, Math and Logic?

I would say "The truly happy INTPs like Computers, Math and Logic."

Or perhaps better, "The most content".

 

[davosy]

Not at all. When I was younger I was very interested in that sort of things, linear, rules based sciences. Since then I have tried to understand more complex patterns, sciences and arts. I rarely enjoy things I understand att fist glance. Now I listen to abstract music; stockhausen, Miles Davis, David Sylvain, and digg into books about cognition, social sciences, psychology...

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[pukeyshiba]

I always felt like a bad INTP because I actually hate math. I'm really bad at it too, although that may have a lot to do with my ADD and never being able to pay attention to lectures.
I love history though, mostly European, and writing. Although I think my writing is still INTP-ish. Detatched, concise, to-the-point, logic based, etc.. I also prefer writing about ideas rather than narratives. I used to do a lot of art too, but I got bored of it.

 

[Seed-Wad]

The only reason for an INTP to hate those things is because he sucks in them.

QATC

 

[Ex-User (9062)]

The only reason for an INTP to hate those things is because he sucks in them.

QATC

Is that the official policy of the Qatar Automobile and Touring Club on this matter?

 

[Seed-Wad]

 

[Moocow]

Allow me to represent INTP artists and say if you haven't made some effort to be one then it's not likely you'll realize what mental faculties go into it.

 

[pukeyshiba]

Yeah, I only dislike math because I'm bad at it. Starting college I want to improve at it, because I REALLY want to like it. All INTPs have a mathematical and logic-based way of thinking, but that doesn't necessarily mean they are good at those subjects (though it does give them a massive advantage.)

 

[Turniphead]

Allow me to represent INTP artists and say if you haven't made some effort to be one then it's not likely you'll realize what mental faculties go into it.

It's true it does/can take a fair amount of mental effort. But for me it always seems like a different part of the brain.

I can draw while watching movies, but there is no way I can program/solve problems while watching something.

Art is a lot of grunt work, with periods of analyzing.
Logic/math is mostly analyzing, with a little grunt work.

 

[Moocow]

Art is a lot of grunt work, with periods of analyzing.
Logic/math is mostly analyzing, with a little grunt work.

I've read mathematicians saying exactly the opposite about math, and my experience agrees more with them. And do you think artists can just materialize any complete image effortlessly before executing it? I stand by what I said.

 

[Turniphead]

I've read mathematicians saying exactly the opposite about math, and my experience agrees more with them. And do you think artists can just materialize any complete image effortlessly before executing it? I stand by what I said.

Hmm... interesting. Do you have any links to the mathematicians I can read?

I will admit I don't do much math, but I do programming and art on a very regular basis(game development). As an "INTP artist" representing myself, what I said has been what I've experienced personally. I'm sure it could be different for others.


When I'm drawing something I usually know what I want something to look like, it just takes a whole bunch of iteration to get it to that point. The iteration process involves problem solving, but of a fairly shallow* kind. When you solve a problem in an art piece, you still have to carry out the grunt work of actually putting it down on paper.

In comparison, the iteration process while programming is(usually) either non existent(because I already know how to solve a problem), or really hard( because I've never solved it before).


I'm not saying there aren't any similarities...

*shallow in that it's more about forming habits than active analysis.


As an aside: I've met an artist who doesn't seem to do any conscious analyzing (ENFP).

 

[Cavalli]

Truth be told, I'm probably INFTP (although I don't think that's a thing?), because really it just depends on the day as to whether I'm INTP or INFP. I loved Maths when I was younger, and I've always been naturally good at it (if I put effort into it, I pick it up easily and succeed). The same goes for science, however to a much lesser degree. Now, I'm going into Year 12 and I can't stand the hard sciences. I've chosen to drop maths for Year 12, and now my timetable consists of History, Philosophy and Ethics, Economics (does have some maths in it I suppose), Psychology and of course English. There are definitely parts of psychology that are considered to be part of the hard sciences, but the unit I'm doing focuses more on social psychology.

It's not that I'm bad at Maths and the like, I just don't enjoy it anymore. I believe this comes as a result of having a whole heap of 'bad' maths teachers over the years and the fact that I've just become so into writing lately (this is perhaps where I act more INFP, along with when I socialise).

It's ignorant to say an INTP would only reject the Hard Sciences because they're bad at them.

 

[Moocow]

Hmm... interesting. Do you have any links to the mathematicians I can read?

I will admit I don't do much math, but I do programming and art on a very regular basis(game development). As an "INTP artist" representing myself, what I said has been what I've experienced personally. I'm sure it could be different for others.


When I'm drawing something I usually know what I want something to look like, it just takes a whole bunch of iteration to get it to that point. The iteration process involves problem solving, but of a fairly shallow* kind. When you solve a problem in an art piece, you still have to carry out the grunt work of actually putting it down on paper.

In comparison, the iteration process while programming is(usually) either non existent(because I already know how to solve a problem), or really hard( because I've never solved it before).


I'm not saying there aren't any similarities...

*shallow in that it's more about forming habits than active analysis.


As an aside: I've met an artist who doesn't seem to do any conscious analyzing (ENFP).

I suppose I feel a little foolish leaping into an argument without first clarifying the terms. What I had in mind was artistic design, as a practice of abstract composition. Trying to create an elegant composition is a lot like solving a puzzle once you've laid down the basic elements of the design. The only guidelines you get are your end goal and your philosophy for getting there. Illustration, and the accuracy of any representations being used, is just another category of elements in the total work of art. I think I've committed myself to too deep an explanation here.

Take for example, designing a website or a billboard. You have certain elements you must incorporate like links, phone numbers, titles, and images, and every arrangement of those elements will have a certain impact. The puzzle concerns maximizing that impact. Now generalize that to "art" with no specific context or purpose and the puzzle becomes infinitely broader in scope. An artist in sheerly the 'fine arts' sense of the word can try to arrange an unforeseeable variety of elements, and use any possible kind of intellect to do so.

 

[Turniphead]

I suppose I feel a little foolish leaping into an argument without first clarifying the terms. What I had in mind was artistic design, as a practice of abstract composition. Trying to create an elegant composition is a lot like solving a puzzle once you've laid down the basic elements of the design. The only guidelines you get are your end goal and your philosophy for getting there. Illustration, and the accuracy of any representations being used, is just another category of elements in the total work of art. I think I've committed myself to too deep an explanation here.

Take for example, designing a website or a billboard. You have certain elements you must incorporate like links, phone numbers, titles, and images, and every arrangement of those elements will have a certain impact. The puzzle concerns maximizing that impact. Now generalize that to "art" with no specific context or purpose and the puzzle becomes infinitely broader in scope. An artist in sheerly the 'fine arts' sense of the word can try to arrange an unforeseeable variety of elements, and use any possible kind of intellect to do so.

Ah, ok. I don't disagree with what you are saying.

I think I would probably put design into yet another category. In that you can apply design principles to pretty much any thing that is "made". Design is like an overarching process that is then applied in various ways (words, visual art, music, software, whatever).

You can be very, very analytical about the design of something, but maybe the process of actually making the thing can vary in how much thought is required.

 

[Ex-User (9062)]

but I do programming and art on a very regular basis
...
When I'm drawing something I usually know what I want something to look like, it just takes a whole bunch of iteration to get it to that point.
...
In comparison, the iteration process while programming is(usually) either non existent(because I already know how to solve a problem), or really hard( because I've never solved it before).

What I had in mind was artistic design, as a practice of abstract composition.
...
The puzzle concerns maximizing that impact.

Well, i guess the thing about composition is, that there is no formula to copy and paste from an earlier instance.
Especially if you want to optimize the visual impact on the viewer.
There's a lot of geometrical approximation involved in guiding the viewer's eyes.
And then of course, there's also a ton to keep in mind when it comes to materials and technique.

I believe this comes as a result of having a whole heap of 'bad' maths teachers over the years

Yes, this can definitely have an impact.
I got my first good math teacher at the last quarter of my secondary education and although i enjoyed the problem-solving, the foundation had been so screwed up already, that i only became mildly good at it.
Another factor was time. If i've had more time to think and put the pieces together, i would complete the task.

 

[Jim Lahey]

I've always understood hard sciences well and found it interesting, but they're not one of my passions. I really hate doing anything above basic math, I've failed algebra 3 times. Math is the only thing that makes me feel stupid. I love humanities and can retain information and make 101 connections to anything. I really resent being stereotyped as being a hard science geek, I don't like sci-fi at all either! I am a strong INTP type so these can't be a concrete characteristics.

 

[Architect]

I've failed algebra 3 times.

Coincidence, so did I! Except I got advanced degrees in Physics anyhow.

Math is the only thing that makes me feel stupid.

Me too, in grad school I lacked a fine intuitive grasp of math that my colleagues did - because they had been doing math for 10 years while I was busy flunking it.

I love humanities

Again, me too.

and can retain information and make 101 connections to anything.

Wow, same again

I really resent being stereotyped as being a hard science geek

I don't mind it at all, especially since the characterization is for INTP's, not me

I don't like sci-fi at all either!

I enjoy sci-fi

I am a strong INTP type so these can't be a concrete characteristics.

Maybe you are or maybe your not, that doesn't invalidate the characteristic. If you took 1000 INTP's and put them in a room I bet you'd be in the minority.

The key to the puzzle above is that I was exactly like you in the first 18 years of my life - a complete humanities geek. Flunked algebra three times (yes that really happened), got 99%+ in the Verbal SAT/GRE but 60% in the math and so on. What happened was that I found a gap in myself, I wasn't really happy as a humanities guy and something was missing. So I changed course and got into Physics grad school as I said.

So with some small authority I do say that INTP's are - all other things being equal - more satisfied being in the sciences, particularly engineering like computing, rather than the humanities.

This isn't to say that a humanities INTP is somehow not an INTP, but to say perhaps theres a dimension to their psyche that they might be missing out on. Likewise science INTP's need to balance out with the humanities, even Einstein played the violin in some small way.

 

[dream&bass]

I love logic and computers but math and numbers give me some issues. I prefer working in relationships and networks. I love music theory because it doesn't have complex integers but condenses everything down to relative relationships.

mmm

 

[Dragonmagicgeek]

For me, it all boils down to pattern recognition and problem solving, along with a tendency to simplify concepts as far as possible. Of course, sometimes simplification is complication in disguise... Anyway.
I like math and other logic-based subjects because they are, in essence, problem solving. This is so; therefore, if this other thing is also so, then so must this be. I have 4n; therefore, if 3/2n is added, then I have 10n. Cause and effect, yes?
I also enjoy politics and history, because they too are cause and effect. It's just that some of the 'causes' are human reasoning, such as patriotism, emotional attachment, or other similar variables. Pattern recognition also comes in here, as I enjoy finding the common denominators in human interaction over the years.
Pattern recognition is thee main reason for my love of music, noting chord progression to anticipate notes and then check my accuracy. Tying emotions of composers and performers into this system adds another relationship to examine, between creator and listener. It's hard to explain properly, but it's fascinating.
Languages are also a form of pattern recognition, in a way. What words, phasing, and intonation go with which meaning... Heh.
Oddly, I do not like programming for the same reason that I like math, as it seems to me not to be logic, but rather a simplified version of the intended results, written as imperatives. I did mention I like simplifying things, yes? Also, there's a bit of languages thrown in, assigning variables to a meaning or action.
In other words, I like things on both sides of the divide, for the same reasons. But then, maybe I'm just weird. And meta. Very meta. Also, I just realized how much I use the word 'also'.

 

[Ex-User (9086)]

There is what you can call translation of perception, call it logics, that has it's uses and there is simply being and feeling. There are times I enjoy one and times when I abstract and explain or analyse.

Computers are a substitute for travelling and learning from the source, as I am too restrained, It's a degree of freedom I can afford. Better and better at allowing and freeing the creation.

Math is a tool and uninteresting in itself provides amusement and information applied to the context.

 

[Anktark]

The answer to the topic's question is: very unlikely.

I love computers, because they are an awesome medium and tool.
Math I like just a bit less and logic is there with computing.

 

[QuickTwist]

There are so many avenues I can go with this but in short, no not all INTPs like math, science and computers. Some like music, some like cars, while others like TV. Its all on an individual basis.

 

[Nitewave]

Math and science was my two best subjects in school. I also like psychology, history and philosophy. I also have a degree in computer science. I love computers. Built this one myself.

 

[tvrgvryen]

I like math and hard sciences. I'm not that good with computers, though they interest me. Art and literature are cool. I write poetry and try to draw. I like the abstract aspect of poetry and the precision aspect of art. There are no rules to art. I find the freedom to create whatever I want and the opportunity to delve into my creative side without the pressure or concern of being judged exciting. I prefer to express myself ambiguously through art and writing than through social means. I feel that this indirect expression is achieved from using foreign languages too. I must admit that I think social sciences are utterly boring, though.

 

[OrcaNerd]

I like computers; I once got lost for hours learning and figuring out HTML.

I only liked math in geometry, trigonometry and chemistry. It really wasn't until chemistry that I saw the logic in math. I hate math for math's sake. I also hate how tests of analytical reasoning only involve math. Surely there are other ways? Surely a disinterest in math and desire to get through it as soon as possible doesn't automatically mean one has poor analytical skills?

My husband says I am illogical, but I wonder if he really means impractical. He has also said I lack compassion, so I don't think he sees me as *shudders* heart over mind.

I do enjoy drawing, sewing, and painting, but I also hate it when people think I like posters, buttons, etc that say emotional things like "An artist who isn't painting is relinquishing his soul to the darkness" or whatever. I really look forward to my mother-in-law teaching me to quilt.

I love languages, too. I think that's a humanities. Sometimes I think it would be cool to study psychology or something, but people are just too boring to me....unless we're talking about anatomy.

 

[the hungry kid]

Umm.. I don't think so.
Everyone like what they like. I don't think you can generalise here.
I personally hate maths. Love any gadget and like logic. But I equally like being illogical at times.

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[Architect]

I don't think you can generalise here.

Then you shouldn't be into MBTI.

 

[the hungry kid]

Then you shouldn't be into MBTI.

Maybe

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[scorpiomover]

Every rule has an exception. Like INTPS who are into fashion. There's a thread here about INTPs who are into fashion.

 

[Architect]

Every rule has an exception. Like INTPS who are into fashion. There's a thread here about INTPs who are into fashion.

Including what you just said; some rules have no exceptions.

 

[Microtonalist]

I used to dislike mathematics intensely. I did poorly in math in school. However, I was into computers from the time I was six years old, beginning with a Commodore 64. I did well in science until high school, i.e., until the focus moved away from memorizing facts and abstract causes (something I did exceedingly well) and more towards solving equations (something which caused me great difficulty.)
As an adult, I have grown in my appreciation of mathematics. However, I am avowedly on the liberal arts/humanities end of the spectrum.
My understanding is that INTPs like abstract systems and formal logic. For many, this takes the form of an aptitude for, and interest in, mathematics and the natural sciences. My own interests are in linguistics, anthropology, philosophy, history, and above all in music. I am a composer, and while I do still do some performing, I am really most interested in music theory, musicology, and computer music.
In terms of personality traits, I am very much a classical INTP. I like well-reasoned arguments and rigorous analyses of data. I don't really fit in well with performing musicians, and have more in common with academics and scholars of various disciplines. I like hanging out with scientists and engineers. But my primary mode of reasoning is overwhelmingly linguistic, as evidenced by a psychological study in which I took part a few years ago.

 

[oldfashionedgirl]

Either I suck at math or I hate it. I'm 99% sure it's both. I've never been good at it.
I forced myself through addition, subtraction, multiplication, division, and fractions because whether I liked them or not I would need to know them and use them often. But areas and volumes.... why do I need to do that now? seriously, why? If I need to know it I will have to do at that point in time is Google it and do it. Right now I guarantee you I won't remember all these darn formula's next year, let alone next month.
Science is not much better.

Computers... meh. I understand them fairly well and I know a little code [html... I code html layouts for people all the time] and java script but PHP and stuff like that scares me, frankly, and I don't think I can wrap my head around it. I more like the creative side of websites than the tedious coding side.

Some people say that INTPs have to be sciency people who like math or they're just not INTPs.
Am I an INTP for real?
I'm not sure. I keep second guessing myself... because of little things like this. I hate that.

 

[Steven Gerrard]

Including what you just said; some rules have no exceptions.

What are you saying?

 

[The Void]

Hated Maths.
Then got better at it through self-imposed training.
Then got better and better starting surpassing my math teacher....
Then loved maths. Got addicted to it.
Then did too much maths...started hating it.
At that moment they made me do 150 maths/day.
Now hate it with all my heart and brain and body and everything there is.
I vomit at it's sight.
I ate too much of it.

Like computer, but hate programming, but starting to like it slowly....

Well in a sense, I hate everything though.

 

[The Void]

What are you saying?

1)Every rule has an exception.
2)"Every rule has an exception." is a rule
3)According to 1, the rule 1 must also have an exception.
4)Exception of the rule that "Every rule has an exception." = Some rules have no exception.

 

[Microtonalist]

I guess the general rule would be that all INTPs like logic. The sort of logical systems (mathematical, technological, verbal, musical, scientific, philosophical, etc.) to which one gravitates are a matter of personal inclination and ability.

 

[FightingSpirit007]

I don't believe preferences promote "skills". But I do think that INTPs can possibly gravitate toward math, however I for one hate it. I prefer science (without much math put forth unless called for), philosophy, psychology, and history.

 

[Rudolph Mondal]

When I was young, around the age of 6 or 7, I was really into maps and looking up various countries around the world on the encyclopedia. That lasted for a while. As I got older, around the age of 12 or 13, I got interested in genetics. And then it was psychology when I was around 15 or so, mainly because I wanted to find out what the essence to intelligence was.

Suddenly after that, I got interested in physics and it is interesting to note that just before that I was failing physics pretty badly. And then it was philosophy. (which I still have an immense interest in) Around 17, or so, I got really interested in AI which I guess was a sort of homage to my interest in trying figure out the essence of intelligence. A year later, I got interested in math, particularly in mathematical logic. That lasted till fairly recently (I'm 19 and a half now) when my interests shifted back to AI. And then it was biology a few weeks ago. Right now, I'm thinking about majoring in electrical and electronics engineering, specializing in control engineering and robotics. (I'm heading to university in the later part of this year, hopefully. Depends on my grades.)

Funny thing is that despite my interests being sort of academic in nature, I've never really done well in school. I had to repeat a year, in fact. My impression was that people with roughly academic interests tend to do well in school but that was never the case for me. I doubt I'm unintelligent either. True, I never really put in effort into schoolwork but I was always interested in the topics covered, especially in math and physics.

So in short, yes, I am very much interested in computers, math, and logic but I never did well in the relevant subjects (math and physics).