They can prove they're being stepped on and they can call whatever it is that's stepping on them whatever they want, its existence isn't in question.
You are confusing the fact that as a human spectator
you 'know' what is happening, that a human exists and that he is stepping on the ant; whilst the ant has no knowledge of humans and that the only proof he has that the human ( something greater than himself ) exists is the effect of that other being's action. The fact he cannot conceive of a human does not mean that humans don't exist. Plus the thoughts of ants are wholly unimportant to a human...
I tried to find out the relative sizes of an ant to a human, although it's obvious that an ant can't see something human-sized, anymore than we could see Mount Everest whilst standing at it's foot. Google got boring, so I'll go with ants being either 1/16th of an inch or 1/8th. However,
this thread on falling ants indicates that:
At terminal speed, air resistance balances weight, so
The "killability" of a fall relates to the total kinetic energy per unit mass of the body absorbing the kinetic energy. This is simply proportional to v^2. But from above formula, v^2 is proportional to weight over area. Since weight is proportional to length^3, and area to length^2, v^2 is proportional to length. An ant is one thousandth the linear size of a man, so its fall from a height sufficient to achieve terminal velocity (which BTW is only a few inches; ESB not needed) has only 1/1000 the killing power of a fall of a person from ESB .
I haven't the faintest ability to follow that uninteresting math, so I'll go along with
ants are pretty small...
One further reference comes from the ever-trustworthy scientific resource that is 1930s popular science magazines:
Will Monster Insects Rule the World ?
The bees, because they work for man in producing honey, are highly regarded and much has been written about their marvelous organization in the hive, yet the little known ants are far superior in their civilization.
Consider that under a matriarchal form of government they maintain a standing army of soldier ants to protect the city, a vast corps of workers to build and feed them all, a corps of nurses to take care of the young, that they maintain herds of cattle --- other types of insects --- which they milk to augment the food supply, and that they are the only form of life aside from man that has ever imprisoned slaves to work for them.
As builders the ants, at least some species found in Africa, are far superior to man. The tallest man-made structure to date the new Chrysler building in New York is only some 1040 feet high, equivalent to the combined height of about 173 six-foot men. Yet ant nests, built by insects not over one-eighth of an inch high, often reach a height of 20 feet or more. That’s 1888 times the height of the builder, and to equal that, men would have to build more than two miles into the air 11,328 feet, to be exact.
The vital evidence from that being the statement that with all their wonders of civilisation, they are still kinda small. And ill-informed regarding the universe.
Actually, the scientific paper goes on to quote Otto:
Society, in fact, is so well organized in antdom that it is not remarkable that the great Bismarck once said: “If I had to choose the form I would rather live in again, I think it would be as an ant. Just see: this little creature lives under a perfect political organization. All ants are obliged to labor, to lead a useful life; all are industrious, and perfect subordination prevails, with discipline and order. They are happy because they work.”
Alas, Yanks rarely appreciate Germans being ironic...
Then again, I prefer his famous quote that '
If you turn over one square foot of grass, the life there will appall you.'.
Meanwhile god's existence is, and I can't help but question a belief in something's existence if one doesn’t know what that something is, since believing in what is apparently by nature a mystery strikes me as odd since most beliefs exist to be proven,
According to whom ? God ?
But that's exactly my point, you're the one who started this little game, or to play with your words: To believe god's existence you would need more than the fact such exists as suspicion.
That wording implies God exists anyway... just that a
belief that He exists is irrational because unprovable.
Actually, I just pointed out that existence is not a proof of divinity: even pantheists don't claim that
each existing life-force is the One and Only God, merely that put together All Things are Allfather... God may exist, but many other things have mere
existence.
I can come up with all sorts of silly little beliefs to mock you, and who are you to say they're invalid whilst
your own remain unproven, i.e. I can invalidate any & all belief based arguments by using them against you, the onus isn’t on me to prove anything untill you can prove me wrong, which is your own logic btw
I believe there is no god, now say I'm wrong, go on,
you know you want to.
What own beliefs ? I'm just arguing here.
Anyway, I think we may be at cross-purposes since my position is that belief and faith, whether in a God or that God does not exist, is wholly immaterial to whether He Is, or Is Not. And that our opinions don't matter in the least to Him, if He Exists.
I don't spend a lot of time considering the opinions of ants...
Claverhouse
Dear, Saint. Would you kindly answer me why did I feel the urge to answer that question above?
