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i got analytic visionary also, seemed pretty accurate when i read the description.
 

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I'm a synthetic visionary. Yeah, quite interesting.
 

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Right Brained (Abstract)

I found the description to be quite accurate also. I particulary like the phrases:

"Change, particularly in ideas, is never-ending for you. What you're enthusiastic about today may not be the focus of your energy in a week, a month or year."

"There is no timeline or deadline for your accomplishments. They are never-ending because you will go back and transform them if they evolve into a different whole within you."


Very interesting link Ermine. ^^
 

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Hm,I got analytical visionary.

Edit:I re-did it and got the visionary.
(I wonder if this is really that accurate?)
 
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I got 'creative planner' (synthetic-analytic). I couldn't make sense of it at first; made me think I'm getting a strange result:
Primary: Left-Brained Abstract AND Right-Brained Abstract
Secondary: Left-Brained Concrete
Avoid: Right-Brained Concrete

Is everyone getting the same break-down? Two primaries, a secondary, and an avoid?

I took it a second time and got the same result. It gives a pretty good description of how I think. Something about this test feels sketchy to me... not sure why.
 

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I have one primary and 3 secondary. Whatever that means.
 

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I remember taking this about a year ago and getting "analytical visionary" as expected.

I wasn't expecting to get anything different, either, so it rather threw me to get something different from everyone else.
 

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Analytical Visionary for me too
 

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Analytical Visionary.

Analytical and Synthetic are Primary, the other two in secondary use.
 

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i got two primaries and two secondaries the first time, then took the school based one and got two primaries (LR-A) again, secondary L-C and avoid R-C
 

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Whoa okay weird. I took the test a first time about 10 minutes ago and got Analytical Visionary. Then I was going back, rereading, saving quotes, and I accidentally closed the window and had to retake the test. Only this time, I got Motivational Visionary.
The results are, word-for-word, the same, except for the Communication Tips part and the Stresses part.
And they added in a part:



Motivating Others

Every so often, you'll be inspired enough to positively motivate people to follow you as their leader. When you're in this action mode, you can speak before and lead large groups of people, even major organizations if you've had enough previous experience. Your words will flow fluidly and touch the hearts and minds of those listening. You'll have a dynamic energy that will focus people to successfully accomplish the goals and objectives set forth.

Yes, if the situation is right, you can go from this quiet, sensitive thinker and communicator to a charismatic, dynamic leader who is not afraid of risks or of being wrong. It's not as dramatic as being Clark Kent and turning into Superman. However, if some persons have never experienced this transition in you, they may be pleasantly surprised if they are on your team or a employee/member in your organization. However, you should know that, once the mission and goals have been accomplished, you're quite satisfied to return to being the thinker and sensitive communicator.


Anyway. I just thought it was interesting to get two "different" results. And I noticed, as I was taking the test, that the choices for answers changed slightly (mostly remaining synonymous to the first choices though).

 

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hmmm, 'creative planner' seems a bit more of a NJ thing.
Aye... I was thinking recently that I am awful close to being INTX, but not quite. Forgive for being so self-centric in this thread. I'm copying the details of 'creative planner' for everyone's perusal. It's a very good read on me - I gather that it doesn't resonate much for most everyone else?

Personally, I'd be interested in seeing some of the other descriptions, if anyone is up for copying theirs. (That site is kind of a pain to go through multiple times, isn't it?)

Actual Me's Test Profile:
The Ultimate Planner

You are admired by many because of your thinking skills and the way you skillfully design your life and the steps in the lives of others. You're an excellent planner. Your opinions are treasured and trusted. Most people know that before you do anything or advise others about anything, you've reached broadly and delved deeply into the history and facts. Everyone realizes that you are conscientious and respectful of doing the right thing in the right way.

Checks and Balances
Yes, yours is a life of checks and balances to the smallest decimal place. No detail is overlooked. You only take precise steps that are planned out well in advance. Thinking and logic are supreme. Knowledge is the foundation. Everything is a chess match at the Masters level! Usually you're not a risk taker. It doesn't mean that you're not adventurous. It means that before you take the first step, every possible move and option that can be controlled has been thought through thoroughly. You only like to deal with probabilities in your favor at 99.44 percent. Joy for you is minimizing luck.

How You Learn
You are a lifelong learner. Everything is absorbed like a blotter by your lock-step memory. Then, it is carefully processed and contextually stored with other pertinent information. When the need arises, you retrieve and reprocess the information for appropriate applications. Rarely does your memory or logical use of stored information fail you or others.

How You Interact with Others
You're basically an introverted and low-key person who likes everything to be orderly and impersonal. Reserved, proper and calm are words that are often used to describe you. You usually don't like to interact verbally or personally with other people. You are independent and can be a loner very easily. Sometimes, your best friend is your computer and its Internet access.

In a group setting you're mostly very quiet and hardly volunteer to speak out unless you have something very pertinent to say. Even then, you are reticent at best. However, if someone you respect directly asks you for your opinion, you'll answer if you deem the subject in question worthy of your attention. Then, and only then, will you respond to that in a thorough manner. If you are pushed to explain even more, you'll use historical and logical explanations, including answering all of the possible questions as to why your responses are correct. Thus, you'll not leave any rational leaf unturned, and immediately you'll halt the possibility that someone else may question you again about this subject area.

Exploring Other Options
Every once in a while, your awareness and thinking processes change. It usually depends upon the situation presented to you. Your thought process shifts from its logical, analytic and detailed state towards a combination of optional thinking, creativity and synthetic wholes. Here, paradoxes are accepted and enjoyed instead of being scientifically rejected; chaos is the basis for reality. Emotional and rational thought are intertwined to solve problems and to strategically plan.

Shifting Interactions
Also, you're able to relate to people on a personal basis rather than an impersonal, factual basis. Now you can explore yourself and others on deeper and broader levels. Your conversations become more fluid, heartfelt and exploratory. You are able to accept inconsistencies of another's thoughts and feelings. When you're in this place, people search you out to discover more about themselves or their deep-seated problems. You seem so much more aware of what is happening rather than what should be happening.

Those who know you over a long period of time welcome these shifts. They accept and anticipate these changes as positive behavioral outcomes. Others, who know you formally, are initially perplexed when this happens. They may seem uncomfortable because your extremely consistent, rational behavior has been transformed into high-risk ideas. What they have expected is not consistent with what has happened previously.

The Final Analysis
Overall, your intellectual abilities, meticulous plans and shifting insights are seen by others as a great asset to their team and their organization. People depend on your articulate advice, logical-optional thinking and calmness in the face of problems. However, don't be negative or impatient when they present their rational shortcomings. Just be patient with them in the beginning and let them know what you are thinking in a positive manner.
 
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Analytical Visionary.

It was hard looking at the pairs of paired words and thinking... but I'm none of those things! or... I'm all of those things!

For Sapphire's benefit, here's the description:

Understanding the Big Picture

Thinking and processing! That's what you love to do the most. Ideas and options are what you're always creating. Once something seems concrete, structured and complete, you have a way of coming up with a creative option that changes the whole and leads to a better building process.

Most of the time you are very uncanny about seeing and understanding the big picture. Yes, you're a holistic thinker that is always asking the question "How?" Everything, including the smallest detail, needs to be woven into a framework to answer your question of "How?" Not one step can be taken until you know how that step fits into the whole. These are some of many reasons why people refer to you as a visionary.
How You Think

Your thinking process is mostly intuitive and analogic. However, you do use facts and logic to back up your intuitive thought processing. When you weave these processes together, you're constantly challenging logical and scientific thought. You seem to stretch the facts to create a new theory or develop a synthetic way of tying different theories together. This optional way of thinking energizes your thought processes while at the same time focuses your energy on the facts in specific, yet different, ways.
Dynamic Creativity

Change, particularly in ideas, is never-ending for you. What you're enthusiastic about today may not be the focus of your energy in a week, a month or year. People that know you see a dynamic stream of consciousness which, given the right amount of time and people support, develops idealistic and artistic themes into living and creative realities. It makes no difference whether they are software programs, pieces of art, strategies for corporations or new, holistic developments for organic gardening.

There is no timeline or deadline for your accomplishments. They are never-ending because you will go back and transform them if they evolve into a different whole within you. That is why in school or at work you procrastinate until the last moment to finish a paper, an assignment or a project. If you do the work early, you'll have to go back and change it completely because you'll see it in a different contextual whole at the time when it is due. So, why redo it?
Shifting to Logical Thinking

Sometimes, you'll leave these creative and optional way of thinking to become extremely logical, rational and serial in your thought patterns and work. During this time, you'll be very analytical, and you will develop critical thoughts and strategies. You'll insist that ideas have factual, underlying assumptions before they can be made into strategies.

You'll be capable of critiquing and changing your own creative theories and plans. Persons that are participating in this change with you will be taken aback by your honest and thorough examinations, your attention to analytic detail and your sudden need to meet timelines punctually.

Every so often, paradoxical thoughts attract you. Most people avoid them. You seem curious and comfortable with them. That's because, once again, your need for creative and optional thinking doesn't have to be tied consistently together with logic and factual data.
Exploring Options

You're attracted to the unknown more than the known. You're drawn to what's unusual about something rather than what is typical about it. If it's strange or way out there, you'll want to know and read about it. You may take an idea from this and apply it in some practical way.

As a scientist or scholar, you have a bent towards the artistic side. What other people see as facts, you may see as shades of facts or possibilities of different facts. It's the development and the creation of new ideas and new ways of looking at something that excites you. That's because your world is the world of possibilities and visions.
Thinking of the Future

You're always thinking about the future and you have an unusual awareness as to what may happen. What you forecast is not always logical and sometimes makes many people uncomfortable. But, if they've known you long enough, they use the awareness to be better prepared for upcoming situations or events.

People want you to share your thoughts with them. That's because your ideas and expressions usually give a different slant to a topic. Many times others look to you for your awareness or guidance about something.
How You Communicate with Others

You're an excellent communicator with individuals and small groups of three, no more than four people. You listen attentively to what people say, how they say it and what feelings are generated. When you give feedback, it is usually very sensitive and leads to further communication. You have an unusual awareness for what is happening to the person and others that are participating. It's almost like a sixth sense. Sometimes, people distance themselves from you because of this sensitivity and your feedback.

Almost the same thing happens when you enter a room with people conversing. Without trying, you can sense the themes of the discussions and the feelings being expressed. As you join a group, people are drawn to you and have a need to express their thoughts and feelings in your presence. You seem to be a natural facilitator for communication on all levels.



It interests me - I (very narrowly) think primarily of myself as a synthesiser... both this and the analytical capacity are primaries in my results. Very closely matched. In life I utilise the two in conjunction.

The description they give for this type plays down the analytical, logical processes as secondary; an easy to shift into back-up. When they give the 'tips' for communicating with Left-brain abstract (analytical) primaries they warn of that type's detachment, aloofness, listening over talking, absorbing and processing time... all traits I would identify in myself and I would think common to INTPs...

the rest of the left-brain abstract qualities mentioned in that bit sound rather J-ish...

while the description for the visionary suggests that feeling responses are paramount and the thinking type is intuitive, analogical...

I can't quite see that meshing with the INTP description...

maybe we're all mistyped INFPs. ;)

(On the other hand the analytical visionary description could fit an impassioned ENTP - someone Ne dominant? Maybe we're ENFPs? :eek:)

DECAF!!! Where are you when we need you Decaf!?
 

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I'm very close to being an INTJ. But after careful studying, I've concluded that I'm INTP.

The brain- chart thing was very balanced. R and L- brain abstract being equally primary and the L- and R concrete being equally secondary.


Analytical Visionary - You know how to mix the "how" and the "why."

Creative Thinker​

You love to think, logically and creatively. You are most productive at work when you are solving problems by analyzing specific situations or by creating multiple options. You're adept at strategic planning at the highest levels.

Sixth-Sense Awareness​
You are very aware of what's happening around you and/or what's going to happen in the future. It's almost like you have a sixth sense. You see the forest where most people are looking at trees or clumps of trees. This gives you a vision toward which to direct people's energies and thought processes. When you do this, people are amazed and excited about following your vision and strategies.

You're also able to break the vision and strategies into workable components that are easy to understand because they are linear, logical and uncomplicated. You also always ask a very important question when you're thinking through the solutions: "What is missing or doesn't fit?" Others on the project are surprised when you question your own assumptions, facts and logic.


Leading Others​
You have an unassuming manner in getting people to follow what you want them to do. Some of the reasons you're so successful at getting people to follow your vision and strategies are as follows:

1. Before you speak and ask others to do something, you have the whole project meticulously laid out so it makes sense and it's easy to follow;
2. You ask for input and genuinely try to accommodate the plan to what people suggest;
3. When problems arise, you can be very creative in finding, or assisting others in finding, optional ways to handle the situations
4. And, as a whole, your mannerisms and your ways of communicating are clear and personable.

Your Communication Skills​
Your communication skills are exceptional. You have a way of making people very relaxed and open during a dialogue with you. You pick up the most salient points and nonverbal gestures during a conversation. Then, you imaginatively redirect them in along your own lines of thought so that people feel they have fully participated in the process.

Respecting Others’ Needs​
The one thing you don't like to do is to push or cajole others into doing something they are resisting. Yes, the project must be finished, but not at the expense of other people's individual feelings or integrity. Your respect for the rights of others supersedes the immediate need to accomplish the goal as planned. You'll find a creative way to meet the challenge while including the personal preference of the individual. That's why people enjoy being on a team or project with you. It's also why many people follow you even though you don't like to think of yourself as a great leader.


I can somewhat predict how people will react and what chain- reactions it might cause. What misunderstandings will be and awkwardness that might rise.

It's rare that I work with projects, so I'm not entirely sure how I work. But it seems about accurate. I don't like taking the lead if I don't have to.

And if other people feel relaxed when I talk to them, I wouldn't know. They might be because of the chameleon in me.

I don't like to force people into doing things, and I don't like being forced myself.

Second time I took it, I got the same as Sapphire Harp. And when I took the career one (which is the exact same test?), I got what LOR got.
Isn't that a bit inaccurate? Why do they slightly change the alternatives?
 

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I got Visionary. Some parts of it, I disagree with - it seemed there was a lot of empathy involved. The process of being able to detect what people were thinking and feeling seemed alien to me. Understanding people's motives and the hidden features of their communication is much closer to what I do. Other than that, it seemed fairly accurate.
 

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I got Analytic Visionary. Seems like most INTP's got this one...

I have two primaries (left and right brain abstract)

One secondary (left brain concrete)

And one mode of thinking I totally avoid (right brain concrete)

Understanding the Big Picture

Thinking and processing! That's what you love to do the most. Ideas and options are what you're always creating. Once something seems concrete, structured and complete, you have a way of coming up with a creative option that changes the whole and leads to a better building process.

Most of the time you are very uncanny about seeing and understanding the big picture. Yes, you're a holistic thinker that is always asking the question "How?" Everything, including the smallest detail, needs to be woven into a framework to answer your question of "How?" Not one step can be taken until you know how that step fits into the whole. These are some of many reasons why people refer to you as a visionary.

How You Think

Your thinking process is mostly intuitive and analogic. However, you do use facts and logic to back up your intuitive thought processing. When you weave these processes together, you're constantly challenging logical and scientific thought. You seem to stretch the facts to create a new theory or develop a synthetic way of tying different theories together. This optional way of thinking energizes your thought processes while at the same time focuses your energy on the facts in specific, yet different, ways.
 

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Sixth-Sense Awareness
You are very aware of what's happening around you and/or what's going to happen in the future. It's almost like you have a sixth sense. You see the forest where most people are looking at trees or clumps of trees. This gives you a vision toward which to direct people's energies and thought processes. When you do this, people are amazed and excited about following your vision and strategies.

You're also able to break the vision and strategies into workable components that are easy to understand because they are linear, logical and uncomplicated. You also always ask a very important question when you're thinking through the solutions: "What is missing or doesn't fit?" Others on the project are surprised when you question your own assumptions, facts and logic.

Second time I took it, I got the same as Sapphire Harp. And when I took the career one (which is the exact same test?), I got what LOR got. Isn't that a bit inaccurate? Why do they slightly change the alternatives?
Queen of Spades, when you put that up - I suddenly remembered I got this sixth sense section as a part of my 'creative planner' profile the first time. And it doesn't strike me as true at all.

It looks like these descriptive paragraphs are being mixed and match by the questions - and I'd guess each paragraph is being determined by 1-3 questions? Considering how well the descriptors they choose apply, it seems very fast and loose to me right now.
 

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Analytical visionary. How unexpected :rolleyes:

They're mixed and matched just the way they'd be in an automatic astrological reading.
 

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Mine must be broken. I got Motivational Visionary.

Ideas and options are what you're always creating and doing.

Interactive and Synthetic. That's funny cuz I hate people.

By the way, after reading the description this definitely is me.

Motivating Others

Every so often, you'll be inspired enough to positively motivate people to follow you as their leader. When you're in this action mode, you can speak before and lead large groups of people, even major organizations if you've had enough previous experience. Your words will flow fluidly and touch the hearts and minds of those listening. You'll have a dynamic energy that will focus people to successfully accomplish the goals and objectives set forth.
Yes, if the situation is right, you can go from this quiet, sensitive thinker and communicator to a charismatic, dynamic leader who is not afraid of risks or of being wrong. It's not as dramatic as being Clark Kent and turning into Superman. However, if some persons have never experienced this transition in you, they may be pleasantly surprised if they are on your team or a employee/member in your organization. However, you should know that, once the mission and goals have been accomplished, you're quite satisfied to return to being the thinker and sensitive communicator.
 

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I didn't get any parts that I avoid. Both Abstract primaries, appearently.

Analytical Visionary

Okay i took the workplace test, and got...
You are a Commander


... great. well. this time, ive only got 1 primary, which is left brain Concrete. Ehh, what?. aswell as 3 secondaries.

but the funny thing is, the description still works. Actually, its frightingly accurate..

Getting Things Done

Your middle name is "Efficiency." No matter what you attempt to do, you're always trying to do it faster and better. If a task can be accomplished in one hour, then you try to do it in 50 minutes, then in 40 minutes, etc.
Others refer to you as a task-master. When you're in a position of authority, you'll drive yourself and others to finish what needs to be done on time or ahead of time. If there's a choice between pleasing others and completing a task, there's no question that you will choose tasks over people. When you're finished with that task or project, you quickly move on to the next.
What Drives You

You are a bottom-line person. The saying, "Time is money," is a theme that drives you and makes you push others. Finishing a task or project on time is a necessity for you. You will work relentlessly to this end. When you have an appointment, you're always punctual; usually you arrive ahead of time. That is why people who are late frustrate you so much. You just can't stand procrastination or tardiness.
You constantly want to reduce things to their lowest common denominator. If it's written on one page, it can be written in half a page or in a memo. You prefer reading bullets of important points rather than paragraphs. "Give it to me in a nutshell!" is a motto of yours.
When it comes to challenges or competition, you're always striving to be the best. In fact, anything less than being #1 makes you extremely dissatisfied and upset. You love to be a winner and to associate with winners. You're not afraid to be #1 no matter what the personal costs and time involved. At each step, you love to become more productive and to gain more power over other people and outcomes.
Challenging Yourself and Others

You love challenges! In any endeavor that you undertake, whether alone or as a leader of people, you strive to be the best. You'll funnel your energy like a laser beam towards the goals and objectives to be accomplished. You will not be budged from this path and everyone realizes this. It's the tenacious bulldog in you.

this is where the description goes off abit... still somewhat right, though.

You are a doer rather than a deep thinker. It's not that you're not smart; it's that your energy focuses on getting something done rather than thinking about it. You love having goals and objectives as motivators and guideposts. You like to keep actions practical, predictable and in the present. However, don't plan too far ahead because things may change on the fly. If you're in a new situation that's not readily predictable, then you're not afraid to learn as you go.
This makes you more tactical than strategic in your planning. You prefer not to cloud what you are doing with too many options or unpredictable details. If you can't control it, then you'll let the situation dictate what you're going to do and proceed with your repertoire of previously successful moves in similar situations.
To the Point

You hate beating around the bush. When you communicate, you are direct and to the point. You don't like to use metaphors or analogies, even as examples. They usually confuse the issue and waste time. You love being concise and concrete.
The Bottom Line

As you have more experiences and you confidently mature, you'll be less impatient with yourself and others. You will remain a driving force and will learn how to keep people on a timely track without creating too much tension and conflict. This doesn't mean that you'll be less demanding; it means that you'll be capable of communicating in mellower, yet clear, terms what you need to accomplish things. And, you'll still be the commander, the mover and shaker of organizations who has a deep and broad authority.
 

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I took the career test and got Visionary. This seems pretty close.


The Visionary

You're the ultimate universal, holistic thinker! Yes, you're a visionary. Everything, including the smallest detail, needs to be synthesized into a framework that answers the question, "How?" Before you begin any project or task, you need to see the big picture. Not one step can be taken until you know how that one step fits into the whole.
Options and More Options!

Ideas and options are what you're always creating. "Process" is your middle name. Once something seems concrete, structured and complete, you have a way of coming up with a creative option that changes the whole thing and leads to a better building process.
Change, particularly in ideas, is never-ending for you. What you're enthusiastic about today may not be the focus of your energy in a week, a month or year. People that know you see a dynamic stream of consciousness which, given the right amount of time and people support, allows you to develop idealistic and artistic themes into living and creative realities. It makes no difference whether they are software programs, pieces of art, strategies for corporations or new, holistic developments for organic gardening.
Time is on Your Side

There is no timeline or deadline for your accomplishments. They are never-ending because you will go back and transform them if they evolve into a different whole within you. That is why in school or at work you procrastinate until the last moment to finish a paper, an assignment or a project. If you do the work early, at the time it's due, you'll have to go back and change it completely because you see it in a different contextual whole. So, why redo it?
A futurist or a soothsayer! That is how some people describe you. You're always thinking about the future; you have an uncanny way of predicting what will be happening. What you forecast is not always logical and makes many people uncomfortable. But, if they've known you long enough, they use the awareness to be better prepared for upcoming situations or events.
You're your Own Person

For you, being your own person is most important! You're off just enough to stand apart from the masses. Your idiosyncratic ways of self-expression often entertain, amaze or offend people. This may make you feel self-conscious or uncomfortable. However, it doesn't stop your unusual way of being. You realize it's just the price to pay for being your genuine self.
How You Communicate with Others

You're an excellent communicator with individuals and small groups of three, no more than four people. You listen attentively to what people say, how they say it and what feelings are generated. When you give feedback, it is usually very sensitive and leads to further communication. You have an unusual awareness of what is happening to the person and others that are participating. It's almost like a sixth sense. Sometimes, people distance themselves from you because of this sensitivity and your feedback.
On the other hand, when you enter a room with conversant people, you can sense the themes of the discussions and the feelings being emoted. First, you'll look for people you know to talk with. After a while, some new people will be drawn into a conversation that you're having and begin sharing their thoughts and feelings with you. Many times, these new people that are drawn to you have a need to express their unusual thoughts and feelings to you. In some way, you attract people who are different or are going through difficult, emotional times.
How You Think

Your thinking process is mostly intuitive and analogic. You use facts and logic to back up your intuitive thought processing. When you weave these processes together, you're constantly challenging logical and scientific thought. You seem to stretch the facts to create a new theory or develop a synthetic way of tying different theories together. This optional way of thinking energizes your thought processes while at the same time focuses your energy on the facts in specific, yet different ways.
Paradoxical thoughts attract you. While most people tend to avoid them, you seem curious and comfortable with them. That's because, once again, your need for creative and optional thinking doesn't have to be tied together with logic and factual data. You're attracted to the unknown more than the known. You're drawn to what's unusual about something rather than what is ordinary about it. If it's strange or way out there, you'll want to learn and read more about it.
As a scientist or scholar, you have a bent towards the artistic side. What other people see as facts, you may see as shades of facts or possibilities of different facts. It's the development and creation of new ideas and ways of looking at something that excites you. That's because your world is the world of possibilities and visions.
 

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Ugh, LOR... draggin' me out of my lurker ways :p and I was just gettin' comfortable.

I got Visionary too, which raises an interesting question considering many of us feel the matching description is not the one most suited to us. Its possible that we come to the description with MBTI bias, looking for what we already believe to be true. The other possibility is that the word pair test they've constructed needs adjustment in order to properly sort people. I'm inclined to believe the latter simply because of how easy it is to do that.

When I do hiring analysis I use results from the DiSC test, which works very similarly, except from each group of 4 words, you pick the 2 that fit you best without having them pre-grouped. I've found it to be an extremely powerful and accurate tool in the times I've had to verify results from personal experience. This appears to be a test constructed using that premise, but over simplified. I ended up selecting far too many unattractive words simply because they were paired with the most attractive one. The test can't distinguish which is which.

Let's go ahead and chalk it up as a systematic error and move on. It might be of interest to the test designers to hear our feedback though, so maybe someone can email them a link to this thread.

Anyone else who does the test remember to post your reaction to the results so they can get the most data possible and hopefully use it to improve what they've already managed to create.
 

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Analytical Visionary, how boring...

I got avoid Left-brain concrete though...
 

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Ugh, LOR... draggin' me out of my lurker ways :p and I was just gettin' comfortable.

:D It was worth it.

Sounds better to not have words pre-paired. Now... do I have the motivation to send feedback to the test developers.....
 

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Another analytical visionary here. It seems mostly accurate. I'll probably have to think about some of the description and then decide if it really fits.
 

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Analytical visionary
Primary: right and left brain abstract
Secondary: Right brain concrete
Avoid: Left brain concrete

Seems accurate.
 

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I found out that if I remove the top left and bottom right portions of my brain, I won't have anymore personality left.
 

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One of the best tests yet! I'm a synthetic visionary - 'the ultimate universal holistic thinker'.

I quite like that :-)

It was very accurate - both on strengths and weaknesses. It's richer than pure MBTI and gives a hint as to the differences between us here on the forum I thought.

thanks for that!!
 

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just reading back through the thread - I think anyone who gets any kind of visionary is INTP but the analytic/synthetic etc are more influenced by the right-brain/left brain part of the test which is additional - or are you suggesting that analytic visionary is INTJ?
 

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analytical visionary.

A sixth sense?
Ooh yeah, I don't buy that.
Some parts of it were dead on and others were news to me.
But it is possible that I'm just not as self-aware as I think I am.
 

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By the way, has anyone ever gotten three quadrants as primary?
 

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By the way, has anyone ever gotten three quadrants as primary?


If you like that visual then the test at this site give you a nice picture on one of their formats. The profiles are very much work oriented so might not appeal to younger people - unless you are already thinking about careers.
 

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Anal visionary...guess that's an INTP thing. Secondary on all 3 quads. This test is kind of stupid...Visionary just describes INTP...might as well just take the MBTI test.
 

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Wow, that was...wrong. Ultimate Planner? Why do i always get an INTJ response to any test I take? Am I sending out signals, or am I actually a closet INTJ?
 

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I'm analytical visionary as well...

It described my way of thinking pretty precise...

And yes, it looks like most of INTPs have it...
 

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Anal visionary...guess that's an INTP thing. Secondary on all 3 quads. This test is kind of stupid...Visionary just describes INTP...might as well just take the MBTI test.


Yeah we're always up our own arses!
 

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Why does that thing in SlyGuy's avatar look so strange?

If you like that visual then the test at this site give you a nice picture on one of their formats. The profiles are very much work oriented so might not appeal to younger people - unless you are already thinking about careers.

I'm in my first year of college, so I have a pretty good idea of what I'm going to do after I graduate. That test didn't really help me out, though. I already know that I'm good at what I do. :P
 

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It's a Japanese hot dog fool.
 

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You have to admit though, it still looks pretty weird.
 

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I got 'creative planner' (synthetic-analytic). I couldn't make sense of it at first; made me think I'm getting a strange result:
Primary: Left-Brained Abstract AND Right-Brained Abstract
Secondary: Left-Brained Concrete
Avoid: Right-Brained Concrete

Is everyone getting the same break-down? Two primaries, a secondary, and an avoid?

I took it a second time and got the same result. It gives a pretty good description of how I think. Something about this test feels sketchy to me... not sure why.

1st time i took it i got 2 primaries and 2 secondaries, 2nd time i took it i got 3 primaries and an avoid
 

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Guess what... I'm another Analytic Visionary! :P
I find the whole thing a bit amateur-ish though: their whole theory is badly explained.

EDIT: I took the test AGAIN, and this time I'm an ENTREPRENEUR! Which is:
- hilarious (given I mentioned wanting to become one a few minutes ago in another thread)
- compatible with my previous test result if I assume that both of my left brain functions (A and C) are comparable. Not only would this explain the varying test results, it also describes me well.
 

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I took the test again and now it's telling me that I'm an "entrepreneur". Something tells me that this isn't quite INTPish. :confused:

I think the description below sounds a lot like me, except maybe for the risk taking part. It looks to me like it matches ISTJ, although I don't agree with the S part.

Thinking Before Acting

Entrepreneur! That's the word that best represents your style. You are an equal combination of aware thought and realistic action. In other words, you'll see something unusual, think about it, organize your thoughts around it into a realistic goal and then, immediately act on it. Sometimes you're successful and sometimes you're not. That's what makes your life exciting.

Here's what's different about what you do compared to other people. You're an applied risk taker! You are not afraid to take action on your awareness.

Another process of yours that is different from others is that you'll incubate your thoughts for a long time and then, out of nowhere, want to apply them directly. The benefit is that your thoughts are original and when applied correctly, they can be very successful. The problem is that others around you have not been clued into your thoughts until you're ready to run with them. They have not been prepared to assist you. This dichotomy between thought and action can sometimes create confusion among those around you.

Combining Intuition and Logic

Your thinking process is a combination of intuition and concrete, applied logic. Yes, you can think and even express yourself theoretically and strategically. But when push comes to shove, you'll want to take these ideas and develop them into active, participatory thoughts that can lead to specific actions.

Two questions are very important to you: "What's the goal or objective?" and "How does it work?" One is the end point and the other is the process in successfully reaching the end point. When you're getting ready to apply your thoughts, you're simultaneously asking and answering these two questions.

Shifting Priorities

When it comes to time, there is a constant shift within you from future thoughts to present actions. You're always thinking about changing possibilities and probabilities, yet wanting to stay on your path toward present day goals and objectives. This dichotomy within you creates a charged energy that, if channeled correctly, will give you and others around you positive results. However, successfully handling this dichotomy depends upon your learning from previous life experiences.

You vacillate from procrastinating to finishing something to wanting to get it done ahead of time. The compromise is that you usually finish what you start out to accomplish on time. That's why it's important for you to set deadlines for yourself and your projects.

Idealism vs. Realism

Another contrast that you live with is that you're predominantly a thinking idealist and an action-oriented realist. Thus, when you have to apply some of your ideas, they create an internal and external frustration with reality. However, with enough experiences, you've learned how to pragmatically weave your way through this. And, in the end, you achieve at a high-level.

Sometimes, in your action mode, your communications can be perceived as very immediate, blunt, and even threatening. Other times, when you're relaxed and just sharing some thoughts about things, your communications are perceived as interesting, casual and extremely enjoyable. That's why it's important for you to be aware of your internal motivational shifts and how they affect your communications.

The Bottom Line

Just remember, that even with all of the above dichotomies and contrasts, your life has been exciting and successful overall. Tomorrow will bring new awareness, different ideas and some more applied adventures. That's the way you like it.
 
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