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    Sheldon Cooper - ISTJ?

    You're not kidding about that demon unicorn. This reads like a stream of consciousness without any filtering. Sheldon thinks he's wonderful. The rest of the world doesn't. But they usually won't tell Sheldon, because if they do, Sheldon makes a whole big thing of it, and it's just easier to...
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    If SJs really follow what they taught, what happens then?

    If N/S is a measure of intelligence, then we already have IQ tests that measure intelligence. We can't rely on your testimony to be absolutely certain that you're an N, because of self-bias. But most of us have had either IQ tests, or tests in school that are highly correlated with IQ. So show...
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    Introvert or extravert? Libido on marijuanna may tell.

    Interesting. I know that it boosts my libido, the physical desire, anyway, and very strongly towards the woman that I most greatly desire. I wonder which one is the introvert, and which one is the extrovert?
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    Empiricism Rests on Flawed Logic

    You are thinking of the American and modern view of empiricism, to wit: It's still just more of "I can do anything I want. Everything is easy. Nothing requires thought, reflection or introspection."
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    Empiricism Rests on Flawed Logic

    What is "grass"? What do your eyes see? The retinal cells in your eye just fire neural impulses upon receiving photos in the green frequency of light. All you "see" is little dots of green. You think you see "grass"? The millions of cells in the neural clusters devoted to the sensory system...
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    Empiricism Rests on Flawed Logic

    There are 2 views of empiricism: 1) The British classical view, known as "British Empiricism", that which was investigated by thinkers like Locke, Hume, and Bacon. They realised that empirical evidence could be potentially useful. However, if pushed beyond its limits, then it would be bound to...
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    Carl Jung- Introverted Rational, but J or P?

    Let me get this straight: You are saying that quantum mechanics is hard to understand? That when you haven't observed something, that it could be anywhere (in quantum superposition), but when you have observed it, it can only be where you have observed it (quantum decoherence), is hard to...
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    Have you ever had an inventive dream?

    Sometimes. I often have more waking dreams this way. Like my mind is wandering, I fall asleep, and then have a brainwave "Why can't we do things like THAT? THAT would solve all the issues."
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    If SJs really follow what they taught, what happens then?

    Ummm... If they are taught they have to read a book, then following what they are taught means that they read the book. If they are taught that they have to endeavor to become enlightened learned people, then following what they are taught means that they endeavor to become enlightened...
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    What are INFJs bad at?

    When everyone was discussing ENTPs, it came up that ENTPs have a top-notch BS detector, that always detects BS. Which is it? Is it the Ni-doms who are good at BS detecting, or is it the Ne-doms? Or is it intuition that is good at BS detection? Are the true natures of Ne and Ni spotting...
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    Why do YOU hate INFPs?

    Well, they tend to be as outspoken when their values are crossed, as much as INTPs are outspoken when people say things that don't make logical sense, which can be extremely annoying. However, I've had a lot of conversations with FPs about a great many topics, and we usually agree, both in...
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    What's the point in personality theory and stereotypes?

    So, if people who always follow what they are taught, are explicitly told to become well-read, and are explicitly told to NOT preach science, and explicitly told to NOT bash religion, then they will NOT follow what they are taught, and do the opposite anyway? So people who follow what they are...
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    Sheldon Cooper - ISTJ?

    Just watched him display/say in an episode that he always has to be better than everyone else in everything. INTJs usually do that. ISTJs are quite willing to accept that others are better than them in many things.
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    If SJs really follow what they taught, what happens then?

    Suppose there is a community where people are continually told since birth, and all the way through school, that the ONLY way to figure out anything, is to think rationally and scientifically. Everyone they know, including all their family, their parents, their grandparents, their siblings...
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    Carl Jung- Introverted Rational, but J or P?

    @Hadoblado (spoilered because derail)
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    What's the point in personality theory and stereotypes?

    I tend to find that MBTI and Jungian typology are treated as if they refer to causes of common stereotypes. Like I see people say that because someone works out regularly, that they must be a Sensor. Or that if they aren't misanthrope shut-ins, that they must be an extrovert. Or that if they...
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    Modeled the Cognitive Functions in Code (feedback welcome)

    I don't think that I have the capability myself to grant you that. i can only offer you that I'll be able to critique it, and see if it has any flaws. I can't guarantee that I'll spot them all. But I'm pretty competent at spotting many of the flaws that most people don't, which comes in very...
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    What Does It Mean to Be an Introvert?

    Your avatar doesn't look very happy. Not like most atheists are exactly going about smiling and expressing happy sentiments either. I can't believe it either, because that contradicts conclusions from other science that isn't disputed.
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    I now know the spirit not the letter. Sums up the problem, doesn't it?

    I now know the spirit not the letter. Sums up the problem, doesn't it?
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    Modeled the Cognitive Functions in Code (feedback welcome)

    That's non-existent code. Or at least, so little code that doesn't actually do anything to say that something worthwhile happens. It's just an empty class that is missing the worthwhile code. I get asked to look at new programming languages on a very regular basis by all sorts of people. I have...
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    Breaking Bad (by someone who actually knows how to type)

    Wow. Nice portrayal of an ISFJ. FRED ROGERS, a guy that was able to worm his way into your heart, with FEELINGS, to such an extent, that you remember him as his TV character's name "Mister Rogers". All he wants to do, is to teach every child about how to deal with the average, normal...
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    Wrote some "personality" code, any feedback?

    Why would I want to download and install Scala if I don't have to? I'm a commercial programmer. I can read the source. If I really wanted to see a presentation, I'd look at screenshots, or want to see a demo run on a web page. Where is the link to the original code that you wrote?
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    Modeled the Cognitive Functions in Code (feedback welcome)

    No images show from the opening post. The "code" is just println statements that just print out the MBTI 4-letter codes, i.e. no code to speak of at all.
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    Breaking Bad (by someone who actually knows how to type)

    I don't know about Gus anymore. I've seen the actor in Once Upon A Time. He's very soft-spoken. But this is a quote of Gus: CAN ANYONE IMAGINE ANY INTP EVER SAYING SUCH A THING? ((Capitals because it's mind-boggling to me that anyone even would say such a thing. It's just such an SJ-ish thing...
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    Breaking Bad (by someone who actually knows how to type)

    Yup. They never remember them. They're always making them up as they go. True. They always forget about putting their numbers in their phone. When they need to ring the number, they usually just type them in the phone, and that is it. They don't remember every number. Probably on average about...
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    When I was 15, missionaries used to come to the door to persuade me. Their arguments all sounded...

    When I was 15, missionaries used to come to the door to persuade me. Their arguments all sounded plausible. I tried to use an Ne approach. I'd want to read the whole chapter, and a bit before and a bit after, because usually they were taking a single verse completely out of context. Also works...
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    I'm not totally au fait with Xianity, as I'm a Jew. Some morals are taken from the Bible. A...

    I'm not totally au fait with Xianity, as I'm a Jew. Some morals are taken from the Bible. A lot of Xianity's values evolved over time and were set down in precedents decided by church leaders. A lot is based on the New Testament. Some is also based on the Old Testament, but not much. I can...
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    Breaking Bad (by someone who actually knows how to type)

    Reason why I thought that Walter White was not an INTJ, was implicit in the first episode. When he showed Jesse how to cook, he said quite clearly that it was just basic high-school chemistry. He wasn't making out like he was a genius who could solve every problem, and should be the go-to guy...
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    Carl Jung- Introverted Rational, but J or P?

    Mods haven't moved it yet. I do believe that it is pertinent. So for the time being, I'll continue, i.e. can't be asked to start a new thread. If you want to, you can. Not really necessary. In order to type other people, I had to question a lot of assumptions made about the way that the brain...
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    why is Richard dawkins listed as an INTP.. blatant Fi

    He wrote a book on religion, where he had a lot of arguments to prove religion false and immoral. He claimed to use logic. He's often said that all he wants is for people to think for themselves. He says that he likes science a lot. He used to say that he was an atheist. There are a lot of...
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    Carl Jung- Introverted Rational, but J or P?

    "Not at all sure in the slightest" of what exactly? For hundreds of years, people believed that there were smart people and stupid people, that most people were stupid and only a few were smart, that it was inborn and could not be changed, and that as a consequence, the only rational way to run...
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    Carl Jung- Introverted Rational, but J or P?

    I agree. I was talking about focus, not hardware capability. The hardware is pretty much the same in everyone. IME, and from what I've read that INTPs and INTJs keep saying on INTJf, INTPs tend to be more interested in developing their. INxJs tend to be more interested in achieving results, and...
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    Carl Jung- Introverted Rational, but J or P?

    Hadoblado Generally, that's how "intuition" works, at least, the older meaning of the word from which Jung seems to have borrowed his concept. Jung suggested that everyone has all 4 functions. Jung seemed to me, to consider Sensation just as we understand it, those who rely on facts, empirical...
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    Monogamy is irrational and immoral

    You don't have the right to have sex with whomever you please, because you don't have the right to have sex with someone who doesn't want to have sex with you, because that's rape, and you don't have the right to rape a person. Rights are contingent. They are not absolutes. Rights are...
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    Would polyamory satisfy you?

    Doubt so. Tried dating more than one person at a time once. Messed with my head. Felt like I had several people in there all at once.
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    Carl Jung- Introverted Rational, but J or P?

    That sounds a very sensible and evidence-based approach. I've often been accused of going off on wild goose chases. Sometimes, they are worthless, and sometimes, they reveal things that were really useful, that other people never considered. That's part of why I consider myself an intuitive...
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    Carl Jung- Introverted Rational, but J or P?

    Ironic, because I was thinking just that same thing about myself, and have had that knocking against my brain for the last few years. It's put me off assuming that he was definitely an INTP. Sometimes, my P-ness won't let me get to a firm conclusion. Ironic, because that's probably the biggest...
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    Carl Jung- Introverted Rational, but J or P?

    Don't understand what you mean. That's not a complete sentence. Normally, I'd try to intuit what an incomplete sentence means, and not worry about it. But my brain is just saying "Does not compute. Does not compute. Does not compute." Can you say the sentence fully? But you did think you're an...
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    Carl Jung- Introverted Rational, but J or P?

    That would be like saying that white people aren't the only people who think Jesus was white. Some black people also think that Jesus was white. Still not white. I didn't see anything that you wrote that indicated INFJ. Can you please explain?
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    Who programs, or wants to get into programming?

    When I first got into professional programming, I was chatting with a recruitment guy. He used to be in IT. Made way more money, and had way less hassle. However, I was socially inept and practically clumsy, and so jobs like that were realistically out of my range. Programming was one of the few...
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    Who programs, or wants to get into programming?

    been programming since 1980 (I was 10). Been programming professionally since 1997 (School, college, university first).
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    Carl Jung- Introverted Rational, but J or P?

    I thought it was INTPs who were interested in accuracy of understanding. Still interested in why INFJs seem convinced that he was an INFJ. Are there any great thinkers that came up with theories that INFJs totally relate to, and value as highly as they value MBTI, and that they do NOT think are...
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    Carl Jung- Introverted Rational, but J or P?

    I agree. However, what difference does it make what type he was? If you believe that it doesn't matter what type he was, then why not give Fe harmony and say that he was an INTP?
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    Smart Watches!

    I prefer VISIBLE. I learned a long time ago, that when technology becomes invisible, people stop thinking about it as a piece of technology that operates according to the laws of science. If they don't see it, they let their imaginations roam to whatever they want to believe. They start...
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    Thinking trait: Finding everything interesting in some way or another?

    Ts can be interested in people. ENTJs are, and they are T-doms. INTPs can also be interested in people, so long as they view people as advanced computational machines that are interesting to study, and they are.
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    has anyone here taken a personal genome test? Scientist have found a gene related to introversion.

    Introversion is far more likely a cause for staying in, than intution. Take a look at ENTPs. Always out the house. They roam around the world to an incredible extent. They'd go to Germany for the weekend, just because they've never been there before.
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    Genetics thread, are you a worrier or a warrior?

    Doesn't matter. ISTPs don't tend to do that much worrying. They're usually portrayed as badasses, because they are much more like the Warrior Type. Something about Se seems to make SPs be generally very calm and chilled out about everything, and also seems to make them perfectly comfortable...
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    Trying to understand intuition vs sensing

    Back in Jung's time in Old Europe, the majority followed conventional wisdom, conventional methods and conventional science of their day. When they would advance methods, science and traditions, it was by careful and slow extension of existing traditions, methods and science. Significant...
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    The tertiary as a structuralizer and invective criticizer.

    I hope you don't mind, that I'll critique your theory. It sounds plausible enough. I think it's got a reasonable amount of validity. I'd just like to analyse some of the details to flesh out the theory more fully, so that it makes even better sense than you've already provided, and makes better...
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    Genetics thread, are you a worrier or a warrior?

    Oh. No. I have anxieties coming out of my ankles, my knees, everywhere. I make Monk seem relaxed. I'm also a very strong P. A-types tend to NOT be go-with-the-flow types. A-types are the guys in the office who always get stuff done. They thrive on a challenge. Tend to go for high-pressure and...
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