waechter418
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ConsciousNess is a self-complementary continuum stimulated by Will & Love.
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Who's Will?
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Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven
waechter418
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who is Love......
waechter418
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how about Will & Love being complementary and thus the strong force of consciousness?
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How about trying to explain how living things, amongst all matter bound by the physical rules of the universe, are able to perceive themselves and their surroundings? Why doesn't my toothbrush know of it's own existence, or know anything of where it's kept or it's purpose of use, and yet humans and other life do?
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Didn't Arthur Schopenhauer say something like that? It sounds very mystical.
waechter418
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Don`t blame the poor thing for not knowing its purpose of use - we haven`t figured out ours yet either.
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A self-complementary continuum could manifest as:
I am what I do - I do what I am
I am what I do - I do what I am
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It seems to me that will and love are certain possible results of our psychology. They are complex causalities which lead to certain resulting behaviors, just like hate, fear, religious inclinations, and all the other things humans do. However, I don't think either one, nor both together, serve to explain the general phenomenon of consciousness.
It seems to me that consciousness is mostly a question of degree of ability to take in and process information and, especially, to make judgments. A very universal definition of ‘life’ is something that senses and responds to its environment. Perception and Judgment can be seen as the more complex, nuanced evolution of this basic principle. The brain allows us to not only take in and store multiple kinds of information from the environment – visual, audio, olfactory, pressure, temperature, etc. – but it allows for sophisticated processing of this information. We can determine not only that there is the image of a human being in a mirror, but that it’s my self, and further, that the mirror is reflective and none of the images visible in it are actually there. In most cases, creatures like dogs or birds can’t comprehend these things, and it’s because they don’t have the mental processing power to do so.
Consciousness is often used synonymously with ‘awareness’, however, I think this isn’t accurate. Awareness, as far as I’ve come to understand, is the ability to confirm sense perception, but it doesn’t indicate an ability to understand what that sense perception might mean. The understanding of meaning is what consciousness does, as it is a higher, more complex form of mental processing.
It seems to me that consciousness is mostly a question of degree of ability to take in and process information and, especially, to make judgments. A very universal definition of ‘life’ is something that senses and responds to its environment. Perception and Judgment can be seen as the more complex, nuanced evolution of this basic principle. The brain allows us to not only take in and store multiple kinds of information from the environment – visual, audio, olfactory, pressure, temperature, etc. – but it allows for sophisticated processing of this information. We can determine not only that there is the image of a human being in a mirror, but that it’s my self, and further, that the mirror is reflective and none of the images visible in it are actually there. In most cases, creatures like dogs or birds can’t comprehend these things, and it’s because they don’t have the mental processing power to do so.
Consciousness is often used synonymously with ‘awareness’, however, I think this isn’t accurate. Awareness, as far as I’ve come to understand, is the ability to confirm sense perception, but it doesn’t indicate an ability to understand what that sense perception might mean. The understanding of meaning is what consciousness does, as it is a higher, more complex form of mental processing.
waechter418
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The problem with limiting consciousness to the sensory, the physical experience, is that latter eventually disappears - and what happens to consciousness ?
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Shrek is love.
PaulMaster
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The nature of Self/consciousness is sort of like one of my open tabs, at the moment.
At this point, I think consciousness and self are the same. Consciousness self identifies as the Self. It is directed by the electrical signals fired by neurons. Consciousness can be stimulated by tons of things, including will and love.
The eastern philosophies like to say the Self doesnt exist. Its an illusion. Ok. Fine. But the Self is real. It self affirms and has measurable effects - not the least of which is the entire purpose of Zen meditation: becoming a non-Self!!!
I say, no matter how illusory, the Self is real.
At this point, I think consciousness and self are the same. Consciousness self identifies as the Self. It is directed by the electrical signals fired by neurons. Consciousness can be stimulated by tons of things, including will and love.
The eastern philosophies like to say the Self doesnt exist. Its an illusion. Ok. Fine. But the Self is real. It self affirms and has measurable effects - not the least of which is the entire purpose of Zen meditation: becoming a non-Self!!!
I say, no matter how illusory, the Self is real.
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Shrek is life. Vanilla marshmallow Peeps are love.