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I stumbled upon a site listing five famous psychological experiments.
http://www.mindpowernews.com/5Psychological.htm
I recall the one about the prisoners and noticed that all participants were male.
These days people are careful about sexism and act as if our biological make up has no affect on us. Contradicting that is the evolutionary perception of how (ancient) males and females function. And, additionally, how many other species function. It's commonly understood that males are the "hunters" and females the "nesters".
From a over zealous feminist POV males were the cause for fighting and war. Considering our evolutionary look at males and females and hormones that wouldn't seem so far fetched. Then again, to believe females could make up an entirely peaceful civilisation is overkill.
However, women are "stereotypically" consider the nurturers. That made me wonder if with the jailing experiment would turn out differently if done with females. It also comes to my attention that female police officers won't always treat their "absolute" power the same way males will. Sometimes they take on an authority that's more parent-like in it's usage. It's also noted that some Native American tribes has female elders.
Is it sexist to say some of the experiments listed might've turned out with different results if there were more females?
On another note, assuming trait theory can be accepted by psychology (which in large it doesn't seem to), I wonder what would happen if different types were put into these experiments. Especially the ones in which people thought they were doing bodily harm or thought the other person had suffered from a seizure.
Outside of general sexual stereotypes (which are apparently more reliable to psychology), I don't think an ENFJ would intentionally cause another person extreme harm. I have an ENFJ friend, who befriended me in a matter of minutes, and after which explained that now that I was his friend he would feel horrible if something happened to me and also confessed that he often worried about his friends.
Someone like this I cannot imagine killing/torturing someone else, even if they're not really there. But then let's consider this. The majority of people are sensors and when something isn't in their face they have a harder time conceiving it (the reality of it won't hit them). While intuitive types are more likely to be imaginative (abstract ideas can hit them as reality). Though feeling types are going to feel more moral obligation and less likely to hurt people and thinking types may be able to reason their way out of something immoral.
I don't know that anyone has actually attempted to do any sort of experiment with one MBTI type, regardless of age, sex, upbringing...
So there are several things to discuss here. The experiments themselves, approaching them from a psychological/evolutionary direction and/or approaching them from a theoretical direction.
I think there would be surprising results if research science would step out of the box and attempt personality theory. Obviously that would be fairly difficult, but I think it would prove something about people and may very well be evidence to say that trait theory does identify characteristics a group of people share.
http://www.mindpowernews.com/5Psychological.htm
I recall the one about the prisoners and noticed that all participants were male.
These days people are careful about sexism and act as if our biological make up has no affect on us. Contradicting that is the evolutionary perception of how (ancient) males and females function. And, additionally, how many other species function. It's commonly understood that males are the "hunters" and females the "nesters".
From a over zealous feminist POV males were the cause for fighting and war. Considering our evolutionary look at males and females and hormones that wouldn't seem so far fetched. Then again, to believe females could make up an entirely peaceful civilisation is overkill.
However, women are "stereotypically" consider the nurturers. That made me wonder if with the jailing experiment would turn out differently if done with females. It also comes to my attention that female police officers won't always treat their "absolute" power the same way males will. Sometimes they take on an authority that's more parent-like in it's usage. It's also noted that some Native American tribes has female elders.
Is it sexist to say some of the experiments listed might've turned out with different results if there were more females?
On another note, assuming trait theory can be accepted by psychology (which in large it doesn't seem to), I wonder what would happen if different types were put into these experiments. Especially the ones in which people thought they were doing bodily harm or thought the other person had suffered from a seizure.
Outside of general sexual stereotypes (which are apparently more reliable to psychology), I don't think an ENFJ would intentionally cause another person extreme harm. I have an ENFJ friend, who befriended me in a matter of minutes, and after which explained that now that I was his friend he would feel horrible if something happened to me and also confessed that he often worried about his friends.
Someone like this I cannot imagine killing/torturing someone else, even if they're not really there. But then let's consider this. The majority of people are sensors and when something isn't in their face they have a harder time conceiving it (the reality of it won't hit them). While intuitive types are more likely to be imaginative (abstract ideas can hit them as reality). Though feeling types are going to feel more moral obligation and less likely to hurt people and thinking types may be able to reason their way out of something immoral.
I don't know that anyone has actually attempted to do any sort of experiment with one MBTI type, regardless of age, sex, upbringing...
So there are several things to discuss here. The experiments themselves, approaching them from a psychological/evolutionary direction and/or approaching them from a theoretical direction.
I think there would be surprising results if research science would step out of the box and attempt personality theory. Obviously that would be fairly difficult, but I think it would prove something about people and may very well be evidence to say that trait theory does identify characteristics a group of people share.
