What other type irritates you the most?

[Jesin]

Including ISTPs?

 

[Ermine]

Yeah, but to a lesser degree. My dad's ISTP, and this shows up a lot in his sociopolitical thinking. He's quite conservative, and he takes the conservative label as a whole package. He takes on the conservative label when he's really more libertarian, but has conservative personal beliefs. He is certainly entitled to his opinions, but here's where I was going with this.

He often endorses ideas in the name of convention. We talk politics a lot, and whenever I introduce a newfangled government idea, he often "considers" it, but says "but we need to do the conventional thing in the name of conservatism." It can also be seen in how he endorses music. For example, he loves all classic rock merely because it reminds him of his past. He likes conventional things for the sake of convention.

 

[shalom]

ESTJs really get at me - they always have the attitude that you should agree with them as if what they say is the truth just because they say it. They so domineering and arrogant. I can't stand it.

 

[Kianara]

Hmmm.... based on 6 pages of posts, I'd have to say that SJ's are taking the cake on this one.

I wonder though, are STJ's or SFJ's worse in everyone's sight?

 

[Fukyo]

ESFPs and ESTPs annoy me but I can handle them,as far as SJs go they present the biggest nuisance for me.ESTJs especially.

 

[Jordan~]

STJs are worse, I think, because the logic's there, it's just overwhelmed by stubborn pragmatism. They're a great source of false hope and unfulfilled potential. ESTJs are probably more annoying because they project all their awfulness outwards.

 

[fullerene]

yes. Exactly what he said.

ESFJs I can write off as being ridiculous. They may try to shame you for not conforming to whatever values they've thoughtlessly soaked up throughout their lives, but that's about it. The ESTJs hit a lot harder, because their strongly extroverted Te doesn't respect Ti at all. They appreciate logic, but Te directs it towards organizing and categorizing external things. Ti is directed towards understanding and "upsetting" the situation as little as possible, instead finding the path of least resistance. Since it's combined with Si, ESTJs can't sense Ti's internal activity, leading them to think you're lazy and inactive. So... even though Ti is probably much more efficient (less active "force" on a situation), the ESTJs tend to be narrow minded and disrespectful of it--even though they value efficiency. Someone who doesn't respect my capability to think or understand pisses me of quite a bit more than an ESFJ who wouldn't respect my life choices/values.

 

[Snail]

Yeah, I've never met an ESTJ who didn't make me cry. They are completely openly invalidating. They reject everything I am, and they don't mind being bullies about it, perhaps as a misguided attempt to force conformity. They tend to want to punish me harshly for being the exact opposite of what I "should be."

 

[zxc]

I think all ESxx types irritate me the most. Irritate! Pah! What a mild word for what I really mean...

Funny thing is, during my first two years of secondary school, my 'closest'/only friend was an ESTJ. Back then I would've thought that he was an introvert, but I think he was just a shy or unpopular ESTJ. We had very little in common; I'm not too sure how we became friends. Good thing my third year liberated me by including me with a large bunch of ENTPs and INTPs.

 

[Fleur]

For me the worst irritation is very extreme Fs. It doesn't matter if somebody's INFP, ENFJ or ESFJ - if hir Feeling is sorely vigorous, in most cases it makes me to have a hardships with getting along with hir. Mostly it leads to a mutual quandary, and we both are unwilling to communicate enough to get over it.

 

[adastrac]

I have the same problems with them. I wonder if you guys (the INTPs) find SJs more annoying than I do (INTJ). I hate it when SJs try and force their system on me, mostly because its all Sensing and not my system. I like my system, don't particularly care if anyone else does, and don't like it changed or messed with. Above all else.

i agree! i have an extremely annoying and narrow-minded aunt (ESXJ) and she's ALWAYS trying to make me conform by imposing her *personal* standards and expectations (based on society's i presume). and she's very loud (the E?) and talks too much (i always have to cut her off in order to be able to express my views). i always have problems sleeping at night after quarreling with her.

i agree with Fleur.. i have a hard time getting along with extreme Fs as well

 

[hopefulmonster]

My IXTJ friend is the only person who can truly infuriate me. Usually when I'm trying to convince him of something and his sensing+judgement kicks in and he just completely closes his mind off. The guy is so intelligent but has this astounding ability to shut his mind off at will. Although I'm sure he finds me equally frustrating.

 

[hopefulmonster]

STJs are worse, I think, because the logic's there, it's just overwhelmed by stubborn pragmatism. They're a great source of false hope and unfulfilled potential. ESTJs are probably more annoying because they project all their awfulness outwards.

This describes my feelings about my XTJ(more S then N) mentor. I can see his logic...I can see how he got to his conclusions and I can also see how god damn wrong they are and I always get this sense of"if only" after having discussions with him. Everytime we have a debate we reach this point where he's unable or unwilling to see what is to me the obvious logical progression of whatever it is we are discussing and then he makes up his mind and thats that I'm wrong he's right and there is no way that could change. I could tolerate it more if he was a SFJ because I could understand that he's not trying to be logical and just agree to disagree but as long as he's being logical in the first place I'm going to feel like I can reach him.

 

[Perseus]

For me the worst irritation is very extreme Fs. It doesn't matter if somebody's INFP, ENFJ or ESFJ - if hir Feeling is sorely vigorous, in most cases it makes me to have a hardships with getting along with hir. Mostly it leads to a mutual quandary, and we both are unwilling to communicate enough to get over it.

You won't like Cats ISFP. It is the SF Irrational versus the NT Rational which means they always get the wrong end of the stick.

 

[Kianara]

It seems to me that the most conflict for INTPs lies with Sensors, followed by Judgers, then Feelers, then the I/E difference. Why does the N/S difference seem to affect type relations more. I would have initially assumed that the biggest difference would be the T/F difference because the INTPs dominant function is Introverted iNtuition.

 

[Agent Intellect]

INTP's dominant function is introverted thinking, and second function is extroverted intuition.

i think one of the biggest reasons for the dislike of sensors is because intuitives are generally very independent, individualistic types, while sensors are more narrow minded and conformity seeking, often pushing their ideologies on others, which really grates against the intuitives need to be themselves.

as far as judgers go, i know for me that they can often seem rather pushy and sometimes myopic, yet i often wish i were one, because my tendency to procrastinate and avoid responsibility is one of the major factors in my feeling depressed quite often (which of course leads to more laziness and avoidance).

 

[Perseus]

The Wolfmen ENTJ cause a lot of trouble because they are in positions of power (like the Sheriff of Nottingham). And they do not use Extroverted Feeling, our fourth inferior (Robin Hood), but their fourth shadow process. The Hawk INTJ is the deputy. I had better shoot him as well! I have got him in my sights. He is very secretive.

 

[Gorgrim]

I glad im not equipped with extroverted thinking instead. That would make my life so much different, and to start with, I find myself getting annoyed at their often simple and practical view on things. I try to appreciate that I'm an INTP, because the ENTJ's and INTJS I met so far don't have the lovely uniqueness that I like about myself. ( yes my reality is suited towards my own type, but I can see the advantages in that, just as in other types. and im not worse off. atleast, in theory.

While I have a harder time than J types do, when it comes to getting things done for others, but when it comes to doing things for yourself, beeing INTP comes in handy. I may not make long lists of what I've heard or read, but In myself im making the associations needed to understand the correlations of what we learn ( at school ). and ocassionally, notes get written down, showing abit of my extroverted J side which is quite weak.

What i was trying to say is that you shouldn't forget INTP's ability to focus and get things done introvertedly, with that ability my primary focus is working my intuition to make people understand me and understand others. There is no need for both a prevelant extroverted and introverted judging. Only one. why should it be a curse to have an introverted? Having a well functioning extroverted percieving function helps yourself out, when you're trying to show what you're 'getting done' inside. Because trying to work out how you should make people understand you takes some work.

I would like to know people who have not got a crippled and weak Fe, if working neccesarily requires you to use alot of Extroverted Judging. Is it a chore or do you learn to deal with it ( as you get older ). And what work do you think you could find that caters for our better function to flourish ( Ne ) It seems to work for me right now, but if i had a job writing reports all the time for example, I would get drained with all the energy beeing put on my extroverted judging.

 

[Kianara]

@Agent Intellect - Sorry! I was thinking of INTJs (myself) when I was writing, but typed INTP. My bad.

 

[Legionnaire]

I would say SJ's, my mother is an ESFJ. She's constantly annoying me when she's around. If its not asking me what I want to eat every 5 seconds, its singing in a opera voice to my own music, or trying to get me to convert back to christianity. My dad is an ISTP, the only thing I dislike about him is he has no patience. Rush, rush, rush out the door. Well there's also that he's a believer that he's always right.

 

[Kianara]

Heh, I can understand that. XP

I believe that I'm always right, but I can also (grudgingly) concede when I'm wrong. It irritates me when people always believe they're right, but won't admit they're wrong occasionally.

 

[IfloatTHRUlife]

I don't like a lot of types, but any SJ type can pluck my nerves. My mother is an ISTJ, enough said.

 

[fullerene]

Decisive, quickly move to implement decisions:
---- Don’t let lack of data or input keep you from making a decision I always say. This is actually one of the strongest benefits of ESTJness. Decisions must be made! Did I tell you I am a product manager? I sometimes use data to make a decision based on the direction my analysis is heading even if it is not complete. In the absence of data I will use whatever feedback I can get my hands on in the time I have available. No feedback, no problem. I will use my knowledge and gut feelings.

^ That's why ESTJs grate against us, in as compact a form as I ever could have put it ^

 

[Perseus]

ESTJs really get at me - they always have the attitude that you should agree with them as if what they say is the truth just because they say it. They so domineering and arrogant. I can't stand it.

My sympathies. They are bureaucratic Bullies. For the most part, I just ignore them.

 

[FacetiousPersona]

People that enforce rules and are inflexible with them irritate me. These people woud stereotypically be of the XSXJ type.

 

[Jesin]

^ That's why ESTJs grate against us, in as compact a form as I ever could have put it ^

Ugh.

 

[chocolate]

I have problems getting along with ISTJs. I can get along with them if we are sitting and having a conversation but anything that requires any sort of collaboration is a nightmare.

As for sensors as a whole, I find some of them very interesting, and some of them very boring, and some in between. It depends on the person and whether or not we have anything in common.

 

[NiDBiLD]

Extroverts and Judging types are annoying. Sensors are weird.

Judging, extroverted sensors are hell on earth.

 

[FF]

I would have to say the ESTJ is the most annoying to me. They just seem like the kind of people who fall into the category of the "mean popular brats." They gather with their flock of other populars, look around at everyone else, and make assumptions about those other people, judge them, are completely un-accepting of them...etc.

How rude.

"ESTJs make good administrators, especially if they remember to consider others' feelings and points of view, which they often miss." from Wikipedia

"ESTJs have an acute sense for orthodoxy. Much of their evaluation of persons and activities reflects their strong sense of what is "normal" and what isn't. ESTJ humor is frequently centered around something or someone being off center or behaving abnormally." from TypeLogic.com

I was right! I assumed what I wrote before I even checked Wikipedia and Typelogic! Woo-hoo I am smaaaaart

 

[naberus]

SFs mainly, seems like a lot of us dislike them.
...I wonder if they feel the same way about NTs.

 

[chocolate]

The SFs I know like me a lot...so they say

 

[FacetiousPersona]

The SFs I know like me a lot...so they say

XSFXs are sneaky. Be cautious.

 

[Seducer of the Homeless]

ENTJs!!!

Smart, Arrogant, Popular, Sporty...

Fuckin' everything with the same smugness

 

[Toad]

ISTJ's...They are fakers!

 

[bluhell82]

INTJ they are so anal retentative i have a INTJ as a teacher he nit pics at everything and doesnt like the fact that i dont right in neat order mmmmmm pisses me off

 

[Adymus]

Yeah, but to a lesser degree. My dad's ISTP, and this shows up a lot in his sociopolitical thinking. He's quite conservative, and he takes the conservative label as a whole package. He takes on the conservative label when he's really more libertarian, but has conservative personal beliefs. He is certainly entitled to his opinions, but here's where I was going with this.

He often endorses ideas in the name of convention. We talk politics a lot, and whenever I introduce a newfangled government idea, he often "considers" it, but says "but we need to do the conventional thing in the name of conservatism." It can also be seen in how he endorses music. For example, he loves all classic rock merely because it reminds him of his past. He likes conventional things for the sake of convention.

Your dad is an ISTJ homie.

 

[Yellow]

ISTJs, ISTJs, ISTJs, ESTJs, [because they piss me off] and ESFPs [because they are soo annoying].

I don't hate all S types though.. ISTPs are endlessly entertaining with their short attention span and violent tendencies, and ESFJs are perfectly easy to get along with..

 

[Reverse Transcriptase]

I think I might just be irritated by people in general.

 

[Toad]

ISTJ's have this highness about them. I've only known one though, so maybe I'm wrong. She would always be so "nice" to everyone. You know that fake, high pitched voice smiling kind of nice?

I think another reason I don't like ISTJ's is because they don't understand the way I talk. I'm sort of sarcastic and dark. The ISTJ I know takes EVERYTHING I say literally. Then she tries to find holes in all my logic and ideas. She also thinks she is ALWAYS right (but maybe that's generally a bad trait in humans).

She can be very caring though. But I would never be friends or date an ISTJ.

 

[Toad]

Your dad is an ISTJ homie.

Yea, he sounds like a J type to me. Always sticking to the plan. Never weave from the plan. The plan keeps us safe. The plan is God.

 

[bovinity]

ISxJ's

 

[SEPKA]

Many people said SJ here, but I think that is too general because SJ are affected a lot by their upbringing. So a SJ grown up and home-schooled by 2 NTP parents will have the same set of belief as the NTP's parent, which is much more flexible and will be able to get along well with INTP.
For me, I think ESTP irritated me most. All people I hate seems to be of this personality, at least that is from what I observed.

 

[walfin]

STJs. Confirmed.

So a SJ grown up and home-schooled by 2 NTP parents will have the same set of belief as the NTP's parent, which is much more flexible and will be able to get along well with INTP.

The difference is that the SJ will be a lot more dogmatic about those beliefs.

 

[transformers]

Extreme feelers are annoying. You can't tell them anything without them taking it personally. They are so sensitive.

 

[Minuend]

That's so true, transformers. It's impossible to have a normal conversation with them. I'm teamed up with two extreme Fs. They are constantly talking negatively about everything and everyone. When I object to anything of that, it's like I'm attacking them personally. One of them is constantly trying to look for my faults, I believe. Seems that way. It's annoying. <_<

Edit: Even when I'm shutting up and ignoring their ridiculous conversation, they still take offense =| They're looking for problems.

 

[Yellow]

I'll have to jump on the extreme F bus as well. But it's no one specific type... just the extremeness [is that a word?] of the F.

 

[Aiss]

xSTJs. Argument set: "it's always done this way", "it's never done this way".

Extreme Feelers - not all of them are oversensitive... but it's really hard to get along with those who are.

 

[JUN]

INTPs man, they sure can be quite the hypocrite sometimes and it's hard to get through to them, they just can't seem to accept what other people tell them and love using fallacies too.

But that's only some of them really, the good ones are lovely to talk to and I truly enjoy some pointless arguing with them.

 

[Zero]

Probably SFJs. I don't really know. Sometimes there are just those irritating people... ISTJs, maybe, they seem like they'd be nuts. I don't like the ones who are obviously faking or those who are like... annoying... they either suck up or they think they're hot shit and so the sheep suck up to them.
Damn Sheep, I shear you all.

ENTJs like make an effort to be annoying sometimes.

I have a friend I've been trying to type. Probably an INFP ISFP or INFJ. I think S more so, considering he's like "I like to touch stuff." O_o;;

 

[Adymus]

Probably SFJs. I don't really know. Sometimes there are just those irritating people... ISTJs, maybe, they seem like they'd be nuts. I don't like the ones who are obviously faking or those who are like... annoying... they either suck up or they think they're hot shit and so the sheep suck up to them.
Damn Sheep, I shear you all.

ENTJs like make an effort to be annoying sometimes.

I have a friend I've been trying to type. Probably an INFP ISFP or INFJ. I think S more so, considering he's like "I like to touch stuff." O_o;;

There was this ENFJ guy my sister randomly met and started hanging around (because ENFPs just have to be friends with fucking everybody they meet), and he was obsessed with getting people to touch his stuff. He was a fucking weirdo.