What is your opinion of INTJ's?

[Reptilian]

I am actually on the border between J and P so i guess i would be INTX. What are some views on INTJ's based from a INTP point of view?

 

[Yossarian]

Basically like us but more driven. They seem to be more externally oriented in motivation, us internally. They want to win the nobel prize, we want to eat pizza and think about stuff that could maybe one day win the nobel prize. They design a system and implement it, we design a system, and tweak it, and keep tweaking it until we either get bored of it or our time is up. They turn in their homework on time, we turn in our homework whenever. They are usually more organized.

This isn't completely true. I'm sure a lot of INTP's accomplish things, I'm probably lazier than most.

 

[Melkor]

I've always thought them quite superiror to us...


Secretly, I think they're Intp's who sold their soul to satan so that they might have some motivation.


It would explain a lot actually....

 

[Cegorach]

INTJ's, as far as I'm led to believe, have a disposition towards closure and as a result have difficulty letting go of their presumptions, resulting in extreme efficiency should they be proven correct, or ignorance should they be proven incorrect.

INTP's are inclined towards leaving all of their options open, leaning slightly towards one opinion or another. Should they be proven incorrect they will quickly adapt, however they usually take a sloppy inefficient path towards their conclusion.

On the off chance you were considering choosing a side or requesting which is superior, I say neither.
We're both complete IDIOTS!!!
You're in a position where you receive the benefits of both.
(Please forgive any mistakes. I'm using a PS3 controller to relay my suggestions. Very distracting!)

 

[Melkor]

It's much worse using a PSP I must add.


Oh..I think it's a matter of enviroment..

Somehow, I think Intps/ Intjs would do better if different enviroments or situations..

Intps might do better in different cultures to their normal one, as of course they don't fit in anyway, and so sneakily they find it quite similar.

While Intjs might flourish in their own enviroments?


I'm just speculating here...

 

[wadlez]

I've always thought them quite superiror to us...


Secretly, I think they're Intp's who sold their soul to satan so that they might have some motivation.


It would explain a lot actually....

OMG NO!!
They suck compared to us, I know a few very well, they are vastly inferior.
Even though is there is only one letter difference they are very different types. There primary function is Introverted Intuition while ours is Introverted Thinking. Or second type is Extroverted Intuition and theres is Extroverted thinking, which explains why they are so differnent in social situations. etc

 

[cheese]

It can be quite difficult to get an INTJ to lay aside his prejudices and even consider an alternate viewpoint, or the possibility that he might be mistaken. They are quick thinkers but choose sides too fast.
Also their Te predisposes them to forcing their logic and arguments upon others in an attempt to mould and correct their minds; when they're wrong this can be quite problematic.
The strength of their convictions and personality can make them quite fun to be around though. They're often funny in a biting, sarcastic way.

INTPs are fuzzier and more waffly.

I think AllKnowingCow laid it out quite nicely.

 

[loveofreason]

INTJs have no souls!

Not much I can productively add, but I need to have a little rant.

They are only very superficially similar to us. The differences under the surface are very very different... Ni and Ti are probably at odds. Ni is all about experiencing the conviction of knowing the Truth. It is the destination, and the 'how' of arriving there is very black box (ie. no light shed on it)

Ti likes to illuminate the journey, and wander around appreciating the countryside. We want to experience the process of getting to the truth. And conclusions are always temporary based on gaining more information to process.

We can infuriate the hell out of an INTJ that just wants an answer... an answer not subject to qualifications and change!

And INTJ close-mindedness can just seem so pitiful to us, especially when we can clearly see something has not being taken into account when they stuffed limited data into that black box of Truth.

 

[IfloatTHRUlife]

I just want to add that there is no INTx or INxP or anything like that, each personality type, no matter how similar, is a completely different person and therefore you cant be split down the middle. Dont let the percentages on the tests fool you, they are just there to show you how your answers to the test guage out.

And about INTJs, they are decent people, they are just intensely stubborn and overlook important details. I have spent my whole life argueing with an INTJ (my brother), and i have never won a single arguement, ever. I dont want to badmouth INTJs since i do get along with my brother pretty well, you just have to find common ground and realize that even though an INTJ can seem to personally attack you, for instance, my brother has called me stupid more times than i could ever imagine, but an INTJs comments are completely exempt of emotion and i consider it thier form of constructive critisicm.

They really are complete assholes though, dont be fooled lol

 

[Ermine]

They're very driven and productive. However, as with any other J, they have a very hard time admitting that they're wrong, or don't know everything. That really annoys me, while admitting that I don't know and won't make a decision until I do really annoys them.

 

[QSR]

Hmm I'll admit I don't understand these terms Ni and Te or whatever very well. I guess we're introverted thinkers and they are introverted intuitives... And I'm wondering what that means. They are better problem-solvers? Like I imagine INTJ are the types who do really well on puzzles and games. I'm saying that because I'm okay at that sort of thing, but I'm definitely more of a verbal thinker than a sudoku player (i've never played sudoku btw.) I'm apt to quit before I figure out a lot of puzzles.

 

[juturna]

I have an INTJ friend and he has good qualities but he's a bit arrogant. He always has to be right and he never stops showing off how smart he is in an asshole sort of way. He isn't even smart, he just works hard which isn't a bad thing i guess. We're opposites in a lot of ways and he finds my unruliness disturbing; gets mad at when I procrastinate and stuff cause he wants to compare answers but hes cool.

 

[Artifice Orisit]

Hard working, methodical, stubborn, augmentative,
What's not to like?

Also
INTJ + 1 vodka = INTP

 

[Reverse Transcriptase]

My brother is INTJ. We're both good at real time strategy games, but he's MUCH better at making decisions fast and with small amounts of information. He's also good and just looking at the opponent's army and understanding what he should counter with, and what that army means in different kinds of strength. I spend too much time not acting.

He's a great brother, I enjoy his company. Since I've learned how to deal with one INTJ really well, the rest don't really bother me, I know how to handle them.

 

[The Fury]

I like INTJs even if they are a bit stuffy and stuck in their believes. The big difference is concentration. In the INTJ forum there's a thread like this discussing INTPs except it goes on for 20 pages rather than 2

 

[Perseus]

Secretive, always think they are right to the point of being conceited, conceited to the point of plotting against other people, manipulative, quick to judge, impatient, can even be dogmatic (ISTJ trait). They are the deputy to the ENTJ. Should be shot. Well, at least one in particular. Didn't think I would guess what they were up to !

Eric Slowhand.

Otherwise they are OK.

 

[Perseus]

I like INTJs even if they are a bit stuffy and stuck in their believes. The big difference is concentration. In the INTJ forum there's a thread like this discussing INTPs except it goes on for 20 pages rather than 2

Can you provide a direct link to the thread please?

This might be it:

http://intjforum.com/showthread.php?t=11941

 

[dwags222]

one of my best friends at college was an intj, we got a long pretty well. he definitely was a better student than i was, though we were probably about the same intellectually speaking, so we would have a lot of really good and interesting conversations. he was also a philosophy major, and though i wasn't at the time i was just begining to have a big interest in philosophy, so it was fun being able to hear about what he was learning and i sort of looked up to him because i secretly wished i had chosen to be a philosophy major, though unfortunately this didn't really come out till i was late in my junior year.

i think the reason we got along so well was because he was not a strong j. i have a very hard time getting along with strong j's. i had a college professor who was intj and he really seemed to despise the fact that i seemed so disinterested in his classes (i have been told i appear disinterested by most all my teachers, even the ones whose classes i really am interested in). he really valued discussion and all that crap, but i need a lot of time to think about a subject before i am willing to openly discuss it.

 

[The Fury]

Can you provide a direct link to the thread please?

This might be it:

http://intjforum.com/showthread.php?t=11941

I think that's the one, shorter than i thought.

Hmmm, kinda ruins my point.

 

[dwags222]

its pretty long, 25 posts per page which

 

[Barachai]

I managed to convince an INTJ aquantaince of mine to swich from supporting socialism to capitalism... Ultimately, like INTP's, they're very focused on the logic of a thing, like INTP's, but in addition want practicality or useability. So explain that aspect as well.

INFJ's can be worse with regards to stubborness, in that they will listen, but at the same time won't change... because they "know" they're right, and more annoyingly can't always explain why. The both, INTJ's and INFJ's, I would think become much more bearable with the developing of their tertiary functions.

 

[owmyfetushurts]

regardless of the fact that INTJs are generally ridiculously conceited, almost all i've met have had a reason to be so. i've never met an INTJ who put on the Arrogant Asshole front and had nothing beneath the surface. somehow this is attractive to me: being a complete dick, but backing it up.
go figure.

 

[TheWallet]

They have a very hard time admitting that they're wrong, or don't know everything.

That's becasue INTJs are wrong not so often
Seriously, there is nothing better, than watching two INTs arguing, when they both are like 100% sure, that they are right.
But yeah, I am not a strong J, but I can really feel it. Even if 15people around me are saying different, I mostly stay with my own opinion anyway, except if they give an obvious reason, why are they right. But about obvious reason, mostly I can think it off myself. So yeah, it's really hard to prove an INTJ, that he's wrong...

 

[wadlez]

Back when i was really good friends with an INTJ, we both had a mutual ENTJ friend.
The ENTJ had just done buisness school and had become a capitilist. He had only first learnt the principles and ideas and I wasnt sold on them yet (he didnt have it fully figured out), so was arguing against him for socialism.
Anyway we had an ongoing debate which became kind of heated and when my INTJ friend was around without the ENTJ, I would argue to him about why socialism was better.
After convincing him that socialism was best, he'd go back to my ENTJ friend and he would reconvince that capitilism was better. He would come back and I'd just turn him to socialism again, we would just pass him back and forth, this went on so long that we both stopped caring about his opinion.
Even though he would put on the act of being heaps smart and others believed him, compared to us he was a retard. Just showing that you can change INTJ's beliefs and ideas depending on there opinion of you, also other intelligent NT types can dominate Intj's.

 

[TheWallet]

Just showing that you can change INTJ's beliefs and ideas depending on there opinion of you, also other intelligent NT types can dominate Intj's.

Of course. We don't have to forget, that people may be different. It doesn't mean, that if he's an INTJ, he is a Genius. All MBTI types can be counted as common stereotype, but that doesn't mean all INTJs are like that. Are you able to change opinion of more INTJs so easily?

 

[FusionKnight]

Basically like us but more driven. They seem to be more externally oriented in motivation, us internally. They want to win the nobel prize, we want to eat pizza and think about stuff that could maybe one day win the nobel prize. They design a system and implement it, we design a system, and tweak it, and keep tweaking it until we either get bored of it or our time is up. They turn in their homework on time, we turn in our homework whenever. They are usually more organized.

I think that is extremely accurate.

We can infuriate the hell out of an INTJ that just wants an answer... an answer not subject to qualifications and change!

And INTJ close-mindedness can just seem so pitiful to us, especially when we can clearly see something has not being taken into account when they stuffed limited data into that black box of Truth.

Also very true.

My brother and one of my closest friends are both INTJs. The primary characteristic that I notice about them is their drive. They are motivated beyond belief, and they are successful. They are the kinds of people that will end up being a Bill Gates or a Steve Jobs, taking a startup company and making themselves billionaires. In addition to their drive, they are masters of strategy and tactics. They maneuver through life, like a game of chess. The goal is always to win.

 

[Perseus]

regardless of the fact that INTJs are generally ridiculously conceited, almost all i've met have had a reason to be so. i've never met an INTJ who put on the Arrogant Asshole front and had nothing beneath the surface. somehow this is attractive to me: being a complete dick, but backing it up.
go figure.

Not nearly as bad as ESTPs though or ESXPs which are even worse.

Animal tricks. Going Turtle (INXP) is not advised against the speedy Jaguar (ESTP) most dangerous of the Big Cats. This one can sever your spinal cord. You have to fly away like an Eagle (INTP). Best bet would be a Peregrine (INTP with a lower Perception).

Cross ref:

http://personalitycafe.com/intj-forum-scientists/654-intj-user-manual-2.html

 

[Madoness]

I have friend who's an INTJ. Usually I get along quite well, as we do look doing same things and thinking same things, but when it comes to disagreements, there is almost always a problem. As I would like to discuss them throughly why I think this way and why he does the other. Now it's somewhat an odd problem as he thinks why I want to discuss is because I want to be right, but the case isn't so. But he doesn't want to discuss if someone feels opposite. So I'm seen to him as INTJ, and it's hard to explain to him that I'm not even that type of personality, as he isn't familiar with personality types, I want to understand other points of views but I would like to get some explanations with points that I do not agree with.

 

[Minuend]

I've met one INTJ, at least I think he was. But our contact were superficial. I liked him, he had a quick wit and was very knowledgeable. I think he kinda saw me as stupid, though. I'm one of those INTP that sometimes just say some things to see how other people feel/ react about it. Just to test the idea. He being knowledgeable about most things, usually could see the flaws in my remarks. To be fair, I were more ignorant back then.

I think I would've been able to connect better with him if I knew of the MBTI. I didn't know it would be "acceptable" to bring up topics like science, philosophy or the like when talking to an NT/ NF. (I would think sensors would just look at you weirdly if you did that). So I never did it. And thus we didn't talk much of those things.

Most people probably don't see me as one who would be interested in those things either. I think, MBTI- speaking, I probably appear as IS T/F J. I would think that most people underestimate my mental ability. So, that's probably some of the reason we didn't connect on a more personal level; he thought I was like my SF- friends. The other reason being that both INTPs and INTJs are hard to get to know properly.

 

[Cegorach]

Queen of Spades:
I have had a similar experience with an INTJ. (Actually I can relate to almost everything you said.)
In my opinion the worst thing you can do with them is to be timid or show weakness. Although I hesitate to make such an unfounded bias, I would go so far as to say they are often arrogant and competitive, and lack an intimate understanding of respect. When I originally formed a friendship with this particular INTJ, it was probably at the worst possible time during my life and this affected his perception of me greatly, he assumed my humble attitude was due to lack of capabilties and my refusal to compete for pathetic forms of recognition only strengthened an already inflexible view of me.
In recent years I have managed to gain huge amounts of respect. I still refuse to prove myself, and instead have opted for a strategy that involves destroying his conceited behaviours.... to be honest... it's been quite satisfying.
>.> <.<

 

[Yozuki]

INTJ's in their arrogance claim to be correct. You'll only get that which is useful by pampering them.

 

[cheese]

^I take issue with your relating accuracy claims to arrogance! In a friendly manner, of course. Surely there have been times when you have been convinced of your own knowledge? Would you call this 'arrogant'?

 

[FacetiousPersona]

I had an INTJ as a friend and he was very arrogant. Perhaps it was due to his membership to Mensa or private education. He frequently mentioned that he is superior to all of those around him in a vainglorious manner.

 

[Yozuki]

^I take issue with your relating accuracy claims to arrogance! In a friendly manner, of course. Surely there have been times when you have been convinced of your own knowledge? Would you call this 'arrogant'?

The logic you are trying to apply means that I think the same way and I could potentially be a hypocrite. I'm not. I speak from the realm of experience, opinion and consistency. One of few things I can honestly trust.

To be convinced of my knowledge would imply I want to be an intellectual, I don't. I don't have any intention of maintaining it either. There is always a chance I'm wrong, and I welcome it. I removes this feeling of being dead.

I have one friend, and INTJ, that I have known for close to six years. He is arrogant. He admits this. And even more importantly, he is impressed by anyone more arrogant than himself. To him, I am not arrogant. I am close minded and ignorant.

Another human, one I have typed as an INTJ, has similar behavior. He simply ignores me. People have a few choice words for him, ass among others.

INTJ Forum wreaked of it. I posted there once and left.

Todate, pampering an INTJ gets the information I need.

[Edit] Before I forget, the topic title asked for my opinion, not what I think is fact. I think this should speak for itself, if all else fails.

 

[cheese]

^I wasn't actually disputing your opinion of INTJs - merely questioning your association between claims of accuracy and arrogance.

To be convinced of my knowledge would imply I want to be an intellectual

Hmm. I wouldn't understand it in the same way at all. Probably we're simply using words differently. Many arguments boil down to dissimilar definitions.

I think by knowledge you mean opinions and theories etc? To me it referred more to easily accessible facts (eg that cancer is potentially fatal, that Coke Zero has no sugar etc). Since these facts are more or less available to everyone, being convinced of one's accuracy in stating them would not be assuming superiority - it does not involve placing one's abilities as truth-finder higher than others', unless one counts fact-acquisition - and hence would not be arrogant.
Perhaps you were thinking of conclusions that one reaches oneself after a process of reasoning? Since the accuracy of these has not been tested in an objective, external context, immediately asserting truth-claims about it - essentially imposing one's beliefs on others by cloaking them in an unfounded objectivity - would be arrogant. INTJs are like this, I think. Your INTJ friend sounds amusing to me.

Anyway, no offence was intended!

 

[Yozuki]

^I wasn't actually disputing your opinion of INTJs - merely questioning your association between claims of accuracy and arrogance.

To be convinced of my knowledge would imply I want to be an intellectual

Hmm. I wouldn't understand it in the same way at all. Probably we're simply using words differently. Many arguments boil down to dissimilar definitions.

I think by knowledge you mean opinions and theories etc? To me it referred more to easily accessible facts (eg that cancer is potentially fatal, that Coke Zero has no sugar etc). Since these facts are more or less available to everyone, being convinced of one's accuracy in stating them would not be assuming superiority - it does not involve placing one's abilities as truth-finder higher than others', unless one counts fact-acquisition - and hence would not be arrogant.
Perhaps you were thinking of conclusions that one reaches oneself after a process of reasoning? Since the accuracy of these has not been tested in an objective, external context, immediately asserting truth-claims about it - essentially imposing one's beliefs on others by cloaking them in an unfounded objectivity - would be arrogant. INTJs are like this, I think. Your INTJ friend sounds amusing to me.

Anyway, no offence was intended!

Too many words. Yozuki's brain hurts.

 

[cheese]

*Submission achieved*

 

[saffyangelis]

There's an INTJ I sit next to in a few lessons at school (I made her take a test), and she's okay sometimes. She doesn't get on well with anyone other than me in the class, so she clings on to me a bit, which gets on my nerves. I'm okay, because I'm getting used to not acting how I think, but she can't help it I think, (e.g. asking some of the others if they wanted to talk about politics and religion, interesting, but they'd rather talk about shoes and shopping. They just don't think much if they can help it)

She's quite nice, and we work well together, and I can get on with her okay, but sometimes she annoys me because she's always talking about her horses, and moaning about how much she has to do, when I get just as much homework as she does, or she's telling me about her horses, or the last time she tripped over, and so on.

We don't really operate on the same wavelength, I'm off wondering about something completely random, thinking about what book I'm reading at the moment, or an idea that's floated into my head, while she's writing messily in her book, focusing on the lesson and making really good points, but she doesn't phrase them so everyone understands them, so the teacher, me and a couple others understand, but everyone else just gives her a funny look as if she's insane.

I worry about her a bit, because everyone pretty much hates her, and talks about her behind her back because she just cannot adapt to talk about shopping and stuff, or chat about little things when she needs to, but she can't really just think to herself, and she also struggles with thinking on her feet, as soon as there's a change in her plan, she just stops, and panicks until a new plan is made. If there's a debate at school, the speech that she can write in advance is really good, but the second it gets to the actual answering questions, she just freezes up, and can't say anything for a minute, until she's had time to actually think it through, but by that time, everyone's all wondering why she's all quiet. I've been told off a few times for trying to jump in and give her a starting point but the questions are asked to individual people rather than the side as a whole.

The problem is, she seems kinda arrogant sometimes, and that annoys people, but she is intelligent, and other days, she moaning to me about how she's going to fail all her GCSEs and have to work at McDonalds, or go to college, or something, which really gets on my nerves, because she knows that she isn't, but she has to try and get me to reassure her, but the second I try and get some reassurance from her, it's like "Yeah, yeah, you're fine. Attention back to me!"

She's the only INTJ I know, so I don't really have an idea if this is just typical to her, or for INTJs as a whole, because I don't really know all that many of them, but I hope it helps.

 

[s0nystyle]

I guess i fit the INTJ catagory, but i find myself conversing ALOT with ENTP & INFPs. I dunno my arrogance doesnt seem to bother people around me TOO much

 

[Enne]

I think they tend to be more socially skilled, and though they disregard social stuff the way we do, they see the benefits of it and can cooly interact w/ many other types. Other than that I think they just take joy at being sharp/critical more than we do. INTPs come off as sharp because we're observing, etc. INTJs usually because they're trying to incite a reaction of some kind.

 

[Carnap]

I guess I just realized I was being verbally abused by my INTJ fiancé. Holy crap. Every time I try to explain something he doesn't feel like listenting to, or I express something not so clearly, he understands it at face value (instead of asking questions to make my logic more clear) and I say "so what do you think?" And he just says "well, I hear your bullshit."

The other day I said something and he said "I'm sick of your idiot way of thinking."

Maybe I was wrong, or maybe it was a fleeting, empty thought. So what?

He is soooooo narcissistic. He has hundreds of photos of himself without a shirt on in his computer. He lies a lot, manipulates, and constantly belittles me.

I will talk about something and then, because he thinks he is God himself he will take the vocabulary from what I've just said and start giving a speech on the topic as if he were an expert. However, little does he know he is humiliating himself because he is using the words wrong and has no knowledge on the subject.

I hate him. I cannot believe how I fell time and time again for his manipulation.


He is very smart. Very intelligent. But he uses it to mirror other people. To get inside their heads so he can use them and play with them.


It is sick.

 

[Enne]

I guess I just realized I was being verbally abused by my INTJ fiancé. Holy crap. Every time I try to explain something he doesn't feel like listenting to, or I express something not so clearly, he understands it at face value (instead of asking questions to make my logic more clear) and I say "so what do you think?" And he just says "well, I hear your bullshit."

The other day I said something and he said "I'm sick of your idiot way of thinking."

Maybe I was wrong, or maybe it was a fleeting, empty thought. So what?

He is soooooo narcissistic. He has hundreds of photos of himself without a shirt on in his computer. He lies a lot, manipulates, and constantly belittles me.

I will talk about something and then, because he thinks he is God himself he will take the vocabulary from what I've just said and start giving a speech on the topic as if he were an expert. However, little does he know he is humiliating himself because he is using the words wrong and has no knowledge on the subject.

I hate him. I cannot believe how I fell time and time again for his manipulation.


He is very smart. Very intelligent. But he uses it to mirror other people. To get inside their heads so he can use them and play with them.


It is sick.

Totally hear you. I was recently on a site for introverted types where they posted anonymously or something (it's an old site..dunno if I can dredge it up), but the 'posts' from INTJs were coming off as ... mean... I have seen this irl as well... There's a certain inciting intent to the way they drop comments callously. He's probably reacting to your information the way he is because he can't see how it can serve him. Then again, he needs you around so that he can have a greater reference point to his information, or his image. It's sort of like a fucked up tango. I have an INTJ friend who is also an activist (). She was surprised that she didn't place into the Visionary/Feeling subtype, but I'm like duh. You spend half your activist time being holier than thou, and completely enveloped in the archaic / reactionary ways that they do things. =/

Have you left the relationship? I suggest you do if you haven't. Doesn't sound like you're getting any growth out of it, just stress. You should try to find someone who values your ideas and can help you expand on them, or someone who values you and can give you a safe place to just let it all out.

You owe yourself that much. Let the INTJ move on to another challenge (read: warped emotional conquest).

 

[Carnap]

I'm working on getting out.

Any time I say I want out he ignores me. He'll say "your not in your normal state, calm down" (I had a bipolar diagnosis and he uses it as he pleases).

I definitely need to get out. I'm just waiting for him to get transferred to another country for two years work (I sublet his apartment, he doesn't live here but two hours away).

So controlling. I'm really starting to hate him. he is so empty to me. So pathetically empty.

 

[Enne]

I'm working on getting out.

Any time I say I want out he ignores me. He'll say "your not in your normal state, calm down" (I had a bipolar diagnosis and he uses it as he pleases).

I definitely need to get out. I'm just waiting for him to get transferred to another country for two years work (I sublet his apartment, he doesn't live here but two hours away).

So controlling. I'm really starting to hate him. he is so empty to me. So pathetically empty.

Sounds like the well's dried up (or has it been a dead well all along?). Best wishes to you in moving on.

 

[QSR]

I think they tend to be more socially skilled, and though they disregard social stuff the way we do, they see the benefits of it and can cooly interact w/ many other types. Other than that I think they just take joy at being sharp/critical more than we do. INTPs come off as sharp because we're observing, etc. INTJs usually because they're trying to incite a reaction of some kind.

I'm pretty much talkin out my ass here, but I don't really agree with you on this. I think INTJ's are easier to get to know, and may seem more socially adept because they like to tell stories and give their opinions. Sometimes their obsessions can make them a little bit weird or eccentric, though. We're probably much better chameleons and skilled at mirroring. We just don't get a lot of attention because we don't really tell stories and we don't come off as very critical or opinionated.

 

[Enne]

I'm pretty much talkin out my ass here, but I don't really agree with you on this. I think INTJ's are easier to get to know, and may seem more socially adept because they like to tell stories and give their opinions. Sometimes their obsessions can make them a little bit weird or eccentric, though. We're probably much better chameleons and skilled at mirroring. We just don't get a lot of attention because we don't really tell stories and we don't come off as very critical or opinionated.

When you're in a social situation, what is your objective? Do you like mirroring or is it just something that you do to help you relate to the persons at hand?