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Some of my elders told me that watching TV makes you stupid......

I sort of suspect its true........ but is there evidence? Is there a logical basis for asserting this/............. any angle would do scientific, philosophy, theological..... anything..... I would like to hear.
 

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I think its more accurate to suggest that watching TV makes you intellectually lazy. Entertainment has its part to play and you remove it at your peril, but it can become a time sink, stunting the growth of other skills that will lead to more long term satisfaction. Someone who spends most of their time being entertained prepares themselves to be people who must be entertained. And yes, even the discovery channel is entertainment. You can not learn to be a scientist by watching other people be scientists.

Television isn't evil, its fool's gold. It tricks your brain into believing that its learning something, but in the end it pretty much only helps you win trivia games. You can not learn anything of real value in half an hour. You can build on things, but how often does television take time to build on what its already given you. Its a continuum of material all starting from scratch.

Take weekend classes in robotics, join a sports team or a martial arts dojo, become a scout, join the peace corp, teach your native language in a foreign country. Those are the things that will make a difference in your life. Things you will be able to reflect on to build up your confidence. Television doesn't make you stupid, but it will steal your life away if you let it.
 

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Actually, there is evidence to suggest that television "rots your brain". First of all is the hypnotic trance that is induced that makes one suggestible. That is why I watch WE TV or Children's programming, so I do not have to deal with defending myself against the advertisements., which have no relevance to me.

One should not discount the power of televised advertising. They employ psychologists, and other experts in 'brainwashing and indoctrination" in the creation of those ads. Marketing is becoming close to being a "Science in itself"

Couch potatoes were once human beings and not always the glazed eyes Zombies paralyzed by the bright light of the television set. Many of us have problems with socializing. This is a modern problem, for there was a time, prior to television, that socializing was the main form of cheap entertainment indulged in, by just about everyone in society.
 

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Some of my elders told me that watching TV makes you stupid......

I sort of suspect its true........ but is there evidence? Is there a logical basis for asserting this/............. any angle would do scientific, philosophy, theological..... anything..... I would like to hear.

In my opinion it really depends on what you're watching and how often you watch TV. Sometimes it's great to sit down and watch a cool show or movie. But I'd agree that it's a bad idea in excess.

And I think it's fair to say that it can make you "stupid" in that most shows explain everything for you and there's little reason to think or figure things out. There's little interaction.
 

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I disagree quite strongly. I find it particularly annoying when a person arrogantly asserts that any one activity has more inherent educational worth than another. I would suggest that every experience is educational.

I often hear the reverse of 'Television makes you stupid', which happens to be 'Reading makes you smart'. Neither of these can be simply put under true or false.

I hate that we are always praising books as the ultimate method of intellectual stimulus. While television is seen as the pastime of idiots. We ignore the fact that not every book is full of information and insight, and that not every TV program is for the empty-headed. Some television is for learning, and some books are for entertainment. And we so often forget that.

Television is a form of art, and literature is too. The point I'm trying to make here is that art can't make you stupid.
 

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I think watching TV has made me smarter. My parents are both SJ and I relied on TV to bring me up properly, to be a free thinker. I guess I had it in me all along because I chose to watch children's educational programs and such.

It really depends on what you watch. I don't think the Discovery or National Geographic channel can make you stupid.
 

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I personally think that the channels most worth watching are: History Channel, Discovery, BBC, CNN and maybe Animax.
 

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I think anything can make you stupider, depending on method of usage. Absorbing information uncritically, like a sponge, makes you stupider in that you forget what to do with that information, and start accepting things you shouldn't. Evaluation and critical thinking are blunted.

It is easier to be passive about input when that input is brightly coloured and animated, as simply looking at things is something most of us do every day, whereas reading requires a minimum of interpretation, automatic as it may be, since it relies on more complicated symbolism. It requires more work to read as lazily (uncritically) as most people watch TV. Hence the snob bias?
 

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my mind and emotions are at ease and thinking is more clear after reading - unequivocally reading any narrative - for three hours versus watching any television program for the commensurate duration. the word narrative is used because these results probably wont be gleaned reading the chinese menu or local phone book; theorizing, imagining, and becoming immersed in the text qualitatively differentiate prose or verse from, say, reading names off a list. imho, the inveterate reader does better in our society that the girl who watches friends or full house or ever cnn, bbc, discovery, etc. because the reader is actively sifting though which views will be accepted and which rejected.
 

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If you take the constant MTV style editing and splurge of bad and good information from TV to the extreme (i.e. Twitter) there is some truth. Some articles or article I read about how people constantly "watching" twitter and interacting at at even much faster pace makes them "dumb" in a since they never have time to recollect and learn to manage their emotions and evaluate the knowledge at such a fast pace. On the other hand TV can be a waste of time since your brain thinks something is actually going on because of the movement and refresh of the screen, thus you stare at it, somehow enjoying it but not because you actually don't care about the show.
 

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imho, the inveterate reader does better in our society that the girl who watches friends or full house or ever cnn, bbc, discovery, etc. because the reader is actively sifting though which views will be accepted and which rejected.

i'm confused, why do so many people in here apparently think that as soon as a television is turned on everyone in front of it completely lose the ability to think critically and their filter and just become filled with everything the dude in the box says while people who read are not even close to as suggestive as a television watcher?
 

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i'm confused, why do so many people in here apparently think that as soon as a television is turned on everyone in front of it completely lose the ability to think critically and their filter and just become filled with everything the dude in the box says while people who read are not even close to as suggestive as a television watcher?

do you disagree with the statement as a rule of thumb typus?
 

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do you disagree with the statement as a rule of thumb typus?

yes the people i know of who are acting like cpt. suggestible while watching tv are equally suggestive to written things although they usually tend to prefer tv so i guess you have a point there but anyway!

wait a minute the word isn't suggestive it's suggestible
 

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I wholly disagree. TV doesn't make people stupid, stupid people watch stupid shows.
 

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I think it makes a difference how you watch TV. If you just turn on the TV and watch whatever is on, perhaps doing some channel surfing to find something, then watching TV may make you dumber. But if you consciously select the TV programs you watch, you can more easily benefit from your television viewing. Consider that we don't normally read books in the same way some people watch television. We don't randomly pick up books and start reading wherever we open the book to, yet many people will just turn on the TV and start watching what is on. With books, we select certain books beforehand, and we often read them from start to finish. That's the same way I watch television programming. I choose the shows I want to watch, and I frequently watch them from start to finish. This is made easier these days with many television shows being available on the web. I watch lots of drama, and it sometimes teaches me about history, or about human relations, or something about the human condition I don't experience as much in my own life. For non-fiction that is expressing ideas rather than stories, I can usually learn more from a book, but for fiction and true stories, I find television to be a very worthwhile medium.
 

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Watching TV is a passive activity. In my opinion that passivity promotes intellectual laziness.

Of course, people can watch TV and still be intellectually active, but TV itself does little to promote it.
 

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Snafu has a good point -- basically, the audiovisual stimulation TV provides makes it less likely the viewer will use much creativity to determine what's happening, because it's being displayed explicitly on the screen for them. I wouldn't say that makes you lazy, but it makes being lazy very easy and possibly even tempting. Reading, however, requires one to 'figure out' what's happening in order to enjoy a similar degree of stimulation, as well as create the sensory impression of the story.

Then again, TV can be that way too, because as it evolves it will become more varied and interactive, making such generalizations less useful.
 

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Actually, it depends more on the person, than on the content they're watching.

TV watching is a form of escapism for the majority, just like the Internet is for other people. *gasp*

Anyway, the "making you stupid" notion is prevalent about any digital media nowadays in people's minds, and it doesn't mean anything to be honest, to me at least. TV is responsible for a good deal of my self education in English, as well as Spanish.
There is all kinds of varied content available with the influx of cable and digital TV in homes, and if someone is happy with enjoying the really dumb content, then maybe they weren't very "smart" to begin with.
 

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This goes along with what Echo said:

I often prefer to watch tv with the sound turned off. I didn't realize this was weird or bothersome to others until I got into college. Roommates would walk in and be disturbed that I'd be glued to the television but have the sound turned off.

They would ask me why I did it. The only reason I could think of was that I found the voices and music irritating. One day while watching Scrubs I caught myself making up conversations and puzzling over what would happen next according to the visual cues. It dawned on me that what I really found irritating about watching tv with the sound on was that it was interrupting my enjoyment of solving puzzles by telling me explicitly what was going on. I love watching foodnetwork with the sound off because I enjoy attempting to figure out what they are making based on the procedure and ingredients the chefs use.
 

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Frown out your one face but with the other
Stare like a junkie into the t.v.
Stare like a zombie
while the mother holds her child. Watches him die.
Hands to the sky, cryin' "why, oh why?"

Cuz I need to watch things die, from a distance.
Vicariously, I live while the whole world dies.
You all need it too don't lie."

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You can't say that tv makes you stupid if you watch the interesting and informative stuff.
 

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Its not just that.... someone told me that the screen refresh rate can influence your brain waves and stuff...... need to check the reference...... Thats why you can watch cartain programmes and just find yourself getting tired and stufff......
 

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I agree that it dose depend allot on the person too. I often will turn on the History channel or something and listen when I am doing something like making and eating lunch. I don't really watch as just listen to it well thinking on it. Then when I am watching TV I will be thinking things through and will always be trying to come up with endings and such. Other times I will watch a thing on like WWII and be thinking of ways to do it better or how they are making very dumb moves. If anyone thinks Hitler knew anything about strategy you are an idiot. Plus when I watch adds its more like thinking them as to how they are trying to control your minds and the psychology at work in them. For me I never got how people by into adds. I may get hungry at food but thats it. I mean what they have in food adds will usually kill you from all the chemicals they have on it.

The change in brain waves could have a negative impact but I don't watch that much anyways. There is a chance that is a reason, but then you would have to watch it a good amount for it to cause the damage so still has dependence on the person. So it is not likely good for all the people who watch it constantly.
 

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I actually learn a shit load from television. But I only really watch it during semester breaks. Pawn Stars teaches me about haggling and why certain things will have more economical value over other things.

American Pickers teaches me a little about the psychology of those that hoard and also why and how certain items can be so valuable.

Science channel taught me about the latest theory on supernovas, which shows good interpretive evidence toward the beginning of the universe starting out as one massive sun among other things. I also learned a lot about the history of Nasa and how they have come to understand the search for other life in the universe (I hope we find life on Europa; that would be neat).

South Park keeps me updated on popular culture. :)

The law and forensics shows sometimes teach me about...well law and forensics. I feel like I've gotten a better understanding of how a defense attorney operates and thinks in a court room just from these shows.

Syfy teaches me about what not to do if making a movie, especially made-for-tv movies.

Sometimes movies can give me a particular understanding of how someone like an arms dealer could rationalize and come to understand what they do for a living.

Homebuilding shows teach me about contractor scams and how to fix and maintain a house without having to hire someone else to do it.

And believe it or not, sometimes when I visit my mom she will watch design shows and I have learned a bit about different types of ways to style a home with furniture and such (which is actually pretty interesting to see things get completely renovated and why and how they do it).
 

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I am gross and perverted
I'm obsessed 'n deranged
I have existed for years
But very little has changed
I'm the tool of the Government
And industry too
For I am destined to rule
And regulate you

I may be vile and pernicious
But you can't look away
I make you think I'm delicious
With the stuff that I say
I'm the best you can get
Have you guessed me yet?
I'm the slime oozin' out
From your TV set

You will obey me while I lead you
And eat the garbage that I feed you
Until the day that we don't need you
Don't go for help . . . no one will heed you
Your mind is totally controlled
It has been stuffed into my mold
And you will do as you are told
Until the rights to you are sold

That's right, folks . . .
Don't touch that dial

Well, I am the slime from your video
Oozin' along on your livin' room floor

I am the slime from your video
Can't stop the slime, people, lookit me go

I am the slime from your video
Oozin' along on your livin' room floor

I am the slime from your video
Can't stop the slime, people, lookit me go

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I used to be a big TV junky growing up. I dont miss it to be honest. There is alot of very good stuff on the educational channels, I like those. But for the most part TV filled my head with nonsense and distortion that I am happy to live without. The music on it sucks, I'm not big on sports(boxing but that's never on tv), Celebrity gossip is NOT news regardless of how much the news media pretends it is, and anyone who gets their political knowledge from CNN and Fox clearly dont know shit about politics, but boy do they think they do.
TV is a great invention, but there is a lot of stupid shit on it. Corporate lies on top of previous lies.

 

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Please comment on this............

Some of my elders told me that watching TV makes you stupid......

I sort of suspect its true........ but is there evidence? Is there a logical basis for asserting this/............. any angle would do scientific, philosophy, theological..... anything..... I would like to hear.


If you depend on television as your sole source for information, then yes you are stupid. It shows a lack of ambition to pursue knowledge for yourself. People who only watch television, are people who prefer to be "spoonfed" their thoughts rather than do any real thinking on their own.
 

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I would answer yes because there are certainly more intellectually stimulating activities that television is keeping you from pursuing. So, in a theoretically universe in which you read more than watched, you would perhaps be slightly brighter.
 

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I don't watch much TV programming. I only watch sports games and movies really. I learn something from everything so I agree with BAP in saying that stupid people watch stupid things on TV. I believe it's how one approaches what they watch to make themselves smarter or dumber. That being said if my TV is on I'm looking for entertainment value not education. I get intellectual inspiration from everything, so much so that I zone out constantly. I'm glad I have a DVR because I always have to rewind back to part where I started critically thinking about. This goes with anything I'm reading as well, which is why it takes me so long to get through a thread lol.

So point is it depends on the person and what they're looking for on TV.
 

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Watching television doesn't make you stupid.

However, working IN television will make you stupid.

I speak from personal experience.
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I owe most of my intelligence to Television as sad as it may sound. I know me personally i am able to pick information from television shows and that information lays dormant until i need it. I feel you can grasp information from anything especially TV shows. Lately i haven't been watching a lot of Tv because i have been busy with soccer. But i consider TV to be life's textbook
 

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I can't stand commercials, they bring about emotions of anger and disgust almost immediately. We just got Austar... fml :(
 

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Clearly watching TV is inferior to actually using your own creative brain. It is inferior to because when one reads the imagination must at least do some work to assemble the scene. Unless people can read without imagining it. If so, strange.

Things that you could be doing instead of watching TV:
Drawing.
Writing.
Learning an instrument/playing an instrument.
Dancing.
Aligning the body.
Meditating.

One watches TV, presumably, because there is nothing "better" to be doing. Because they are Bored. Boredom is not real. There is only intellectually lazy.


I will never understand why people pay a company money to waste their life for them. Why people volunteer to forfeit their thought and artistic expression and replace it with the expression of capitalist corporations.

(Well, lack of arts education helps explain that. But that's a different topic. )



I do find some merit in watching Documentaries at least. When a TV show provides the ability to change the lens through which the world is viewed - this is what gives TV merit.
 

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It could be because you don´t use your intellect when watching TV. I think everything can make you stupider it depends on how you use it doesn´t it?
 

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I think it depends on the kind of programming you watch. Popular programming includes things which do make you stupid in an academic way, but teach you social skills and social norms. I as a child was addicted to the Discovery channel, How It's Made, natural disaster documentaries, aircraft crash documentaries, etc. I was considering being a volcanologist for a bit. I learnt a lot from watching those programs so I reckon that made me more academically intelligent.
 

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TV is one of the few things that I despise so much, the mere sounds from it are almost guaranteed to make me angry. It has become an icon of anti-intellectualism now that all of the channels that ever had anything of value have degraded into basically the same garbage as any other (history channel, anyone?)

I grew up watching Bill Nye though. I don't know if they air that anymore but it's a damn shame if they don't.
 

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There seems to be a correlation between late night cravings for fast food and television comsumption.
 
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