the other day my dad asked me if i ever "think about the deeper things in life".

[shoeless]

which pissed me right off. it's like, bitch, i wrote the BOOK on thinking about the deeper things in life. motherfucker.

it's hilarious, because he's the one who gave me the mbti test. if he actually did his goddamn job he'd KNOW i can't fucking help but think about the deeper things in life. ALL. THE. TIME.

i swear to god, he doesn't know me at all.



anyway. a rant.

anyone with similar experiences? (just to make this thread seem less self-indulgent.)

 

[Wish]

There have been times when a friend of mine takes the time to stop talking all the time and after a short pause asks something along the lines of "Man it's crazy how we never take the time to think about our existence (or our insignificance in the cosmic sense, or something similar)". It bugs me when some people assume that since they don't think about "the deeper things in life" much at all that other people don't either, which I think is similar to your situation.

Edit: And honestly I've tried to understand it, but still am completely appalled that some people very rarely think about these things. How can you not want to try to understand your existence?!

 

[Tyria]

I. think. about. them. every. single. day. and. it. drives. me. nuts. because. the. answers. are. so. damn. inconclusive. and. subjective.

 

[transformers]

My dad is the opposite. He knows I think about the deeper things in life far more than the practical, everyday matters, and he tries to divert my attention towards that path.

 

[Minuend]

My roommate and friend told me she didn't think I would like the book she was reading because it contained a little philosophy... Now that I think about it, I believe I've written this before. I suppose it's somewhat my fault for not sharing my interests more. My closest friend accused me of not having feelings. Which isn't odd, considering the emotions I share are emotions like slight annoyance and being content the vacation's coming up. I like keeping them at a distance, though.

I constantly think about the deeper things of life. And when people talk about other people, things or events, I always try to understand them in a bigger picture. See how the dots connect.

 

[Ermine]

No one has really asked me that directly, but I do find it funny how the people around me treat thinking about "deep" things like a novel experience. They wonder why I often say "deep" or "witty" things. They shouldn't be surprised if they ever knew what I was thinking about. I wonder if I will ever have a friend who will understand that about me. If they don't know about my internal world, they know hardly anything about me.

And also along these lines, my mom thinks I have a "concrete" mind. This is hardly true. We must have vastly different definitions for the word. I define "concrete" as inflexible, and mainly thinking about tangible things that are right in front of you. This is more like xSTJ thinking that I really don't do that much. I think she defines "concrete" as thinking about things in a logical manner, and acknowledging that things such as emotions and feelings are very subjective and hard to figure out. In my mind, she's the one with the more concrete mind. I think she's either ENTJ or ESTJ. Very Te oriented.

 

[RubberDucky451]

I try to hide everything i enjoy that's "deep", (philosophy books,art,music, etc) most people just don't understand. I realize that "they don't understand" is the mantra for every teen, but i think it has some pull in my case.

 

[Döden]

which pissed me right off. it's like, bitch, i wrote the BOOK on thinking about the deeper things in life. motherfucker.

it's hilarious, because he's the one who gave me the mbti test. if he actually did his goddamn job he'd KNOW i can't fucking help but think about the deeper things in life. ALL. THE. TIME.

i swear to god, he doesn't know me at all.



anyway. a rant.

anyone with similar experiences? (just to make this thread seem less self-indulgent.)

Jesus shoeless, it's like we're the same person.
My dad told me I don't know what I want. He also went so far as to say my logic was bad when I was arguing with him (long story short: it was his logic I was expanding on simply to make a point, not my own) and that I only do things because I want to be accepted by other people.

Wrong, wrong, and wrong.

 

[Chimera]

That reminds me of last week when I murmured something sarcastic about some kid being dumb in our class, and a girl sitting near me burst out laughing, saying "Oh my god, I love how you said that so sarcastically! That's so funny!" as if sarcasm was completely new to her.
...I wasn't trying to be funny; sarcasm is just my native tongue. The dumb kid really was getting on my nerves. ​

On topic...I've never been told or asked if I think deep. Probably because I only talk about deep things with other deep thinkers.
I really hate the word deep, by the way. It makes me think of some oozing black-blue slime that emerges from a clog in a faucet and bubbles all over the place. ​

 

[Darby]

I really hate the word deep, by the way. It makes me think of some oozing black-blue slime that emerges from a clog in a faucet and bubbles all over the place. ​

it's nice to know I'm not the only one

 

[asdfasdfasdfsdf]

which pissed me right off. it's like, bitch, i wrote the BOOK on thinking about the deeper things in life. motherfucker.

it's hilarious, because he's the one who gave me the mbti test. if he actually did his goddamn job he'd KNOW i can't fucking help but think about the deeper things in life. ALL. THE. TIME.

i swear to god, he doesn't know me at all.



anyway. a rant.

anyone with similar experiences? (just to make this thread seem less self-indulgent.)

what are the deeper things in life?

 

[asdfasdfasdfsdf]

I really hate the word deep, by the way. It makes me think of some oozing black-blue slime that emerges from a clog in a faucet and bubbles all over the place.
​

that description makes me want to explore the ooze.. .lol.

 

[ozzieflipflop]

Thinking about things is a purely personal and silent experience that others are not aware of. When you make comments based on those thoughts the concepts are not fully understood by the listener, especially the thought processes behind them. I always feel a little "S" when I make comments like this though, as most of "know" this stuff already???

 

[Architectonic]

which pissed me right off.

You should have said: no, what gave you that idea? Then give him a really indignant look. Then see how long it took him to work it out and then laugh when he finally figured out how silly he was.

 

[KazeCraven]

what are the deeper things in life?

I am also curious as to which things constitute the "deeper things in life."

I often read philosophy books in my spare time, though I'm not sure I'd consider an argument about what is or isn't pious as one of the "deeper things in life."

 

[Adymus]

You should have called him a weirdo, and then said he needs to get his head out of the clouds, and start focusing on reality like a normal person.

 

[TylerDurden]

"Deeper things in life" I suppose would be subjects that require critical thinking skills to properly comprehend.

Whenever someone asks me or begins to discuss such matters (and I know they one fry short of a happy meal) I just don't bother to fully engage myself in the conversation. Just seems like a waste of time.

 

[KazeCraven]

Hmmm, that sounds more like thinking deeply about things rather than thinking about the deeper things.

I actually have a class (ending in a couple of weeks ) where we basically take an issue and point out why it's just not that simple. One example of this is we were discussing whether all of humanity is doomed because of pollution/global warming/rapid death of species/overpopulation and then the professor goes off on a tangent explaining why the choice between disposable diapers and cloth-wash diaper service isn't an obvious one regarding environmental damage. One fills up landfills and the other contaminates water supply; one is worse in some places and better for other areas. And let's not forget about the fact that cost of producing and shipping against picking up and dropping off for cleaning is variable. So anyway, which issues/causes do we support to clean up the environment, and how do we send the message out to others? Few people are willing to listen to the whole truth about diapers before they make their decision, and some of them are only persuaded by which one costs the most for them anyway.

Baby poo isn't one of the deeper things in life, but we can think deeply about it.

 

[Adymus]

"Deeper things in life" I suppose would be subjects that require critical thinking skills to properly comprehend.

Whenever someone asks me or begins to discuss such matters (and I know they one fry short of a happy meal) I just don't bother to fully engage myself in the conversation. Just seems like a waste of time.

Not really. All it really requires is a powerful imagination. You don't need to critically think when imagining the infinite. It can be whatever you want.

 

[KazeCraven]

Ooo, I think I get it. Does trying to imagine what it's like to die and fade out of existence count? I tried that a few days ago and freaked out when I got close to succeeding.

Or trying to imagine whether or not the world would really be any different if no one was "conscious." I suppose, really, trying to comprehend how consciousness could be an illusion or what the heck I (as consciousness) am.

 

[Adymus]

Ooo, I think I get it. Does trying to imagine what it's like to die and fade out of existence count? I tried that a few days ago and freaked out when I got close to succeeding.

Or trying to imagine whether or not the world would really be any different if no one was "conscious." I suppose, really, trying to comprehend how consciousness could be an illusion or what the heck I (as consciousness) am.

Yeah, that would easily pass for deep thoughts.

Deep thoughts are really just contemplating anything beyond material world life.

 

[KazeCraven]

Okay. I thought I was missing out on this really awesome conversation topic for a moment, but most of those thoughts don't really lend themselves to words.

Hmmm. Or rather, the interesting part of it is difficult to put into words, I should say.

 

[Polaris]

Hmmm, that sounds more like thinking deeply about things rather than thinking about the deeper things.

I actually have a class (ending in a couple of weeks ) where we basically take an issue and point out why it's just not that simple. One example of this is we were discussing whether all of humanity is doomed because of pollution/global warming/rapid death of species/overpopulation and then the professor goes off on a tangent explaining why the choice between disposable diapers and cloth-wash diaper service isn't an obvious one regarding environmental damage. One fills up landfills and the other contaminates water supply; one is worse in some places and better for other areas. And let's not forget about the fact that cost of producing and shipping against picking up and dropping off for cleaning is variable. So anyway, which issues/causes do we support to clean up the environment, and how do we send the message out to others? Few people are willing to listen to the whole truth about diapers before they make their decision, and some of them are only persuaded by which one costs the most for them anyway.

Baby poo isn't one of the deeper things in life, but we can think deeply about it.

Lol!

 

[Adymus]

Okay. I thought I was missing out on this really awesome conversation topic for a moment, but most of those thoughts don't really lend themselves to words.

Hmmm. Or rather, the interesting part of it is difficult to put into words, I should say.

You're not alone, and this is why when people ask me what I am thinking about, I usually just say "Nothing."

 

[ohrtonz]

Yea my mom will try to brainwash me into falling in line with society and use this line "there is a world out there!". I'm aware of a lot of things I have observed and choose not to behave in different manners. Have I experienced it all? No. That doesn't make her arguments legitimate. It's not like I have to do things that exact way. If I hadn't observed the behaviors of society I wouldn't me able to make the simple connections and explanations for things that surprise her so much on how I can explain it and give her "ah ha!" moments.

 

[asdfasdfasdfsdf]

"there is a world out there!"

you should mention that the average "world" experience for people your age (im not making a stab at your age, but if you are between the ages of 13-70, this is probably somewhat accurate) involves getting drunk, trying to seduce others, and probably a few other drugs thrown in there.

and then ask her if she wants you to explore the "world" out there.

 

[ohrtonz]

you should mention that the average "world" experience for people your age involves getting drunk, trying to seduce others, and probably a few other drugs thrown in there.

i had a party that had 14 people while parents were gone. my aunt made comment to my parents about how the house is going to be trashed. but parents trusted me. we all sat around on our computers LANing heh. with people's girlfriends playing consoles or hanging out.

 

[asdfasdfasdfsdf]

i had a party that had 14 people while parents were gone. my aunt made comment to my parents about how the house is going to be trashed. but parents trusted me. we all sat around on our computers LANing heh. with people's girlfriends playing consoles or hanging out.

heh.. thats funny.
.
my point was that she would probably stop telling you to go "experience" the "world" if she came to see the exact face of what the typical experience was.

 

[Architectonic]

you should mention that the average "world" experience for people your age.

Or what about a delightful story about child soldiers?

 

[pie]

nobody has asked me the question but they've been surprised to find out that I do think deeply about things. this annoys me because they don't think about what I've just said but just exclaim "wow that's deep! you're a deep thinker! I didn't know you're a deep thinker!"

and they wonder why I think people are stupid.

 

[ashitaria]

I. grapple. with. the. meaning. of. life. everyday.

I. grapple. with. the. possibility. of. an. afterlife. everyday.

I. think. about. how. things. have. come. to. exist. everyday.


So if anyone ever said that to me when I had just spent the previous sleepless night thinking about these things, I will go nuts on him.

Also, the "experiencing the world" view is complete bull shit. I get more entertainment from books and thinking then I do at parties and socializing. Not that I think that people are stupid, just that I think that people don't use their brains enough.

 

[ProxyAmenRa]

We should not take this any more! The ignorance of he general population of the intp condition. It is time to create the INTP union. A body to defend our cause, ideals and most importantly our deep thought.

 

[citrusbreath95]

We should not take this any more! The ignorance of he general population of the intp condition. It is time to create the INTP union. A body to defend our cause, ideals and most importantly our deep thought.

I'm with ye!!! :smiley_emoticons_mr (attack my bat friends!!!)

 

[EloquentBohemian]

We should not take this any more! The ignorance of he general population of the intp condition. It is time to create the INTP union. A body to defend our cause, ideals and most importantly our deep thought.

Oh yeah... an organization of INTP's.

...like trying to herd cats.

 

[Shauni]

Actually, the complaint I get much more often is that I "think too much." People tell me that I should just "stop thinking and have fun!"

Well, thinking IS fun for me, so buzz off. You're ruining my concentration .