The art of an INTP

[Linsejko]

INTPs don't have any special tendency towards creativity, from what I've observed. Creative INTPs would, I imagine, however, exhibit certain correlations in their expression of flavor of creativity--preferring the dark, the complex, the layered, and the minimalistic, for example. That's an interesting conjecture, actually... Perhaps we should start a thread asking for INTPs who consider themselves creative to give examples of their art and look for common denominators?

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I posted this a long time ago, and then half a year ago Auburn recommended I make such a thread, and I just saw it now. I don't even remember posting this, but it does strike me as a good idea.

So, here we go: are you an INTP? Do you consider yourself creative? Do you have fruits of your labors?

Post them. Let's analyze together.

My own contribution: doculife.org (which has a long way to go from being in a finished state, but is currently functional--and it an active project, though the updates are rather periodic... though likely to increase in frequency, as my semester ended last week).

 

[smithcommajohn]

I've made many attempts at art in many forms. I fail!

 

[Dormouse]

I very rarely start anything with a finished product in mind. Currently the most interesting piece I could share is this huge collage of several years worth of doodles. It is neither aesthetically pleasing nor arresting in content. Just a sketchdump.

Other than that, the only things I've succesfully completed have been gifts for others, and I would feel odd posting any of those here for you to see.

I do have a couple of paintings hanging about, but they're relatively old.

 

[Meer]

Visually, mostly automatic surreal stuff. Pure Ne.

Musically, mostly minor chords and stuff. Maybe Si?

Literarily(?), mostly whiney existential claptrap. Fe, lol?

I never complete anything, because none of it is good enough. Some of you don't consider yourselves creative?? What's wrong?

 

[Dimensional Transition]

I'm an INTP. I consider myself creative. Yes, I have art you could view!

I'm actually going to an art academy when I finish high school, see where it leads me. If I fail as an artist, I'll just go on to study psychology.

So here's some art o' mine:

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This is still a work in progress, which I doubt I'll ever finish:

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I've also made many flash animations in the past, but I kind of stopped doing that. Takes too much time. Last one I made was over a year ago.
Nonetheless, here are my two favorites:
Displeased
Pico's Space Adventure

 

[Linsejko]

(literarily*)

 

[Ozymandias]

I can't stop staring at that bill cosby picture.

 

[NoMan]

I can't stop staring at that bill cosby picture.

And it, you.

 

[MissQuote]

I really love the third one you posted DT.

I dabble in art, others are far more inclined to call me an artist that I am to call myself one.

I haven't posted a picture here yet so let me see if I can figure this out...

Some drawings, paintings and a collage of mine.

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[NinjaSurfer]

I posted this a long time ago, and then half a year ago Auburn recommended I make such a thread, and I just saw it now. I don't even remember posting this, but it does strike me as a good idea.

So, here we go: are you an INTP? Do you consider yourself creative? Do you have fruits of your labors?

Post them. Let's analyze together.

My own contribution: doculife.org (which has a long way to go from being in a finished state, but is currently functional--and it an active project, though the updates are rather periodic... though likely to increase in frequency, as my semester ended last week).

once I am understood
I cease to be unique

-me

 

[Linsejko]

I have found that to be an isolating idea that brings no fulfillment. Good luck with that.

 

[NinjaSurfer]

I have found that to be an isolating idea that brings no fulfillment. Good luck with that.

I am sure there are things that you have not found

 

[Dimensional Transition]

I really love the third one you posted DT.

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Thanks (:

Is that death holding an ice cream cone?

Visually, mostly automatic surreal stuff. Pure Ne.

Musically, mostly minor chords and stuff. Maybe Si?

Literarily(?), mostly whiney existential claptrap. Fe, lol?

I never complete anything, because none of it is good enough. Some of you don't consider yourselves creative?? What's wrong?

That painting is absolutely beautiful!

Oh and I suddenly remembered I tried making music about one year ago... Needless to say, most of it sucks. It all sucks, actually, but I still like some of the experimental bits. (Uncloaking the Ice Giant 00:48-1:20, and I like the atmosphere of Spacebender, but yeah, the rest is... pretty bad. Feel free to listen though.)
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[MissQuote]

It is indeed, death and ice cream. :smiley_emoticons_mr


It was for a sketch project some friends of mine on another forum were doing, the theme was something like show the lighthearted side of the darkness within you, or something to that effect.

 

[Darby]

All of my picture art consists of shapes and more shapes with nice comfortable smooth lines and points. I rarely color and always use pencils.

I would show some, but I don't own a scanner

ALSO: SYMMETRY!!! I think at least 50% if not more is horizontally symmetrical, but rotational symmetry is also nice.

 

[Linsejko]

I am sure there are things that you have not found

I count on that for my hope in the future. I have found much, however, and imagine my words are worth considering--you are of course well able to disagree. I didn't state I was right, merely that my experience shows it to be unfulfilling. The truth can very well be unfulfilling, but if that is the case, then I am slowly losing interest in the truth.

MissQuote, what is that first image?

Meer, what's the context of that music? Like, what did you make it in, what's your background, etc.? It's got a decent production quality. It's also purely synthetic, whereas all of my music has historically been acoustic layers/compositions.

DT, what do you use for your digital stuff?

I am getting a kind of disregard for reality vibe from this art, so far? Does that make sense? Another other consistent elements noticed? (It's a bit early, I hope many others offer stuff, but this is great already.)

 

[Linsejko]

DT, if you continue making music... You have a nice intuitive sense for atmosphere, but I would recommend playing more with melody. Melody, I think, is really what makes any music engaging. (There are no famous classical composers that I'm aware of that just made mood music--they all focused on melody within a created contextual soundscape designed to compliment the melody.)

 

[Dimensional Transition]

DT, what do you use for your digital stuff?

I am getting a kind of disregard for reality vibe from this art, so far? Does that make sense? Another other consistent elements noticed? (It's a bit early, I hope many others offer stuff, but this is great already.)

Yup. That's right. I've been making surrealistic stuff for a few years now. I've been thinking about making more realistic paintings/sketches for like a year now, but I never really get around doing that. It's just too boring for me, my attention span seems to be too short.

DT, if you continue making music... You have a nice intuitive sense for atmosphere, but I would recommend playing more with melody. Melody, I think, is really what makes any music engaging. (There are no famous classical composers that I'm aware of that just made mood music--they all focused on melody within a created contextual soundscape designed to compliment the melody.)

Yeah, and that is exactly the problem. :P I'm really awful at making melodies with instruments, I can make some up in my mind, but I just don't have enough knowledge of chords and such to make those melodies reality.

 

[Smooch]

there seems to only be one thing I'm really good at (well really I'm just okay, but I've I did it more I'd be pro ( and that is drawing people's faces with just plane ole pencil.
i seem to be pretty bad trying to draw/paint/whatever anything else.

 

[Vecho]

I can't draw a straight line. I am really bad at drawing or creating when needed to.

 

[psion]

I don't have very many pieces uploaded to my computer, but these are the ones I do have. I apologize for the quality of some because I don't have a scanner and I have to take pictures with a camera.

This one is from around two years ago, but I still like the composition. Lead on paper.

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From about a year ago. Oil paint on canvas paper.

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Random sketch done in about a half hour. Lead on paper.

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I hope to eventually finish this, but I'm not sure what to put at the bottom. I love drawing eyes though, just as a side note. Lead on paper.

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A couple outline sketches of bodies. First one is kind of witch-y and the second one is a general idea for a monk. Lead on paper.

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[Jordan~]

Oops, I voted because I wanted to be helpful but then remembered I'm not an INTP. It won't influence the result that much, right?
I used to test as INTP anyway, and the answer's not changed since then. So I answered from the past.
And it was the fourth option and it's poems. I wish so dearly I could draw and play music, but my only artistic talent lies in the selection and arrangement of words. I'm hugely jealous and admirative of musicians and artists. Musicians can manipulate the air around them to make beautiful sounds, artists can cause me to see things that don't exist. Those are freakin' superpowers.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

I have a musical ear with no practical training in any instruments. I imagine I'd be a good pianist, drummer, composer or producer. But that's just my imagination.

 

[Onis]

I'm in an art school. I draw very generic stuff in realistic style that has been influenced by anime and cartoons. Here's few sketches that I did recently for a contest. I don't own the character nor did I design them.
http://s220.photobucket.com/albums/dd12/onisukka/Unseen/ )

I wouldn't say that I'm creative. The subject of the drawings or the final product is not important to me. Usually the finished product serves as a notepad of things I have studied. They are also useful in the progress of learning - they let me know what are the things that I know, what I'm not good at, what I should practice more and at what state my currect progress of learning is. I am interested of learning painting and 3d modeling, the theories of both have been interesting enough to keep me intriqued for years now.

In art school I do have to compromise a lot - creating a good looking finished product becomes top 1 priority in learning progress. Communicating with others, creating a good story behind the painting/animation and not being able to choose what I spent my time learning have probably been the hardest challenges so far.

It's worth it though, even though they are not things I set out to learn, they have proved to be very important parts of studying.

 

[JMAN86]

I can visualize how I want to draw or paint something but my hands never do what I tell them. I'm hardly capable of underlining text without crashing into the sentence below.

I'll stick to writing & photography.

 

[Moocow]

Yes.
I paint.

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I also make music but I don't have a secure way to upload it for you all to listen to, and nor do I want to until I have a finished EP.

 

[Meer]

Meer, what's the context of that music? Like, what did you make it in, what's your background, etc.?

I am getting a kind of disregard for reality vibe from this art.

FL Studio, a lot of free plugins and samples. I've had zero formal music education, just plonking around for years.

And yep, reality is malleable.

But that's just my imagination.

You should do something! Pick up a sequencer and go.

I also make music but I don't have a secure way to upload it for you all to listen to, and nor do I want to until I have a finished EP.

Awww what's it liiike?

 

[Orja]

Do you consider yourself creative? Do you have fruits of your labors?

Well.. That's a tricky question, really. I am artistically talented. I am creative. I have an affinity for black and white and I can create something decent in any media, I can reproduce photographs and other works accurately or with my own fun spins. Provided it's in black and white. However, I am not artistically creative and color is my arch-enemy. Throw in color, and a 5 year old can out-do me. Force me to create art purely from my own ideas and it will leave me frustrated to tears because I seem incapable of actually producing it to a degree anywhere near my own satisfaction. .......Like I kind of want to do a series on the end of the world with a set of over-exaggerated natural disasters with some diminutive figure, a man, a toy car, something, just standing there about to be destroyed, with no concept of his/it's own destruction, facing it unafraid.. all of these in a kind of harshly painted ink-wash...... So I generally stick with things like photography and pottery that have a structure and require less creativity and more skill.

 

[warryer]

I have written stories in the past. I'd like to write again but, I just can't motivate myself to take on such a huge task. I constantly read and re-read what I wrote and make little changes until it creates the right message. I have an idea I'm working on--- it will be the next best seller once I start writing it... of course.

Anyways, an example of one I really liked. I wrote it with this girl I liked going through a rough patch in mind. Knowing that you can see what I'm really saying.

It could use some work but, the message is there

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On the edge of a large pond, a fisherman lives in his shack. Every morning at the crack of dawn the fisherman would put on his lucky fishing hat and head for the pond, pole in hand. He never baited his line. He believed that if it was his fate to catch a fish he would. Morning after morning the fisherman would go to the pond and return home with nothing. Never dissapointed, he would return to the very same spot the next morning.

One particular morning the fisherman woke up and found that there was not a sound to be heard. No birds chirping, no frogs croaking, no wind blowing through leaves. The fisherman paid no attention and headed down to his usual spot on the edge of the pond. He performed his usual ritual of giving his hook a kiss before casting it off into the pond. Within minutes the fisherman had a bite. He excitedly reeled in his catch. To his surprise he pulled out a pure white fish with three black stripes on either side.

This was no ordinary fish, the fisherman thought to himself. After moments of studying the fish begins to sing. This startles the fisherman as he had never heard of a singing fish before. The fish sings a song more beautiful than any bird. Once it finishes its song the fisherman decides that he cant eat such a magnificient creature so he throws it back into the water. He heads back to his shack with the song replaying in his mind.

The next morning the fisherman hurries out to the pond with hopes to catch the singing fish. He performs his usual rituals and casts his line. He feels a tug and sure enough he reels in the singing fish. This time it sings a completely new but equally beautiful song. It finishes its song and the fisherman returns the fish to the water.

For the next year the fisherman comes back to the same spot listens to the same fish. For that year though, the pond was faced by a severe drought. The sun beat down taking with it a little bit of the water each day. With each day the fish's song became a little less magnificient, until the pond had about as much water as a bathtub could hold. At this point the fish wouldnt sing. It was not free to create new songs as it had become sad that its home had shrunk to a fraction of the original size.

The fisherman noticed that the fish had become very distressed by the lack of water in its home. He decided that he must do something to help the fish. So he ran back up to his shack where the well was. The fisherman dropped the bucket down and cranked it back up brimming with water. He quickly ran back down the hill and dumped the bucket. He repeated this several times per day.

Every night before bed he would pray and pray that it would rain the next day. Each morning he woke up to find that the sun still blared with an intense heat. Day after day he was only able to pour enough water into the pond to keep the bath tub size amount.

Then one night the fisherman said his prayer for rain, everything went silent. No wolves howling, no crickets chirping, no owls hooting. The fisherman didnt notice because he was so tired dragging water all day.

He awoke the next morning to a pitter-patter on his roof. Instantly he recognized the sound and shot out of bed to see that not only was it raining, it was pouring. He ran down to the edge of the water to see that slowly the pond was filling back up. It rained for three days straight.

On the fourth morning the fisherman awoke and walked down to the edge of the pond. He didnt bother bringing his pole because the fish started showing up on its own months ago. He sat there for hours. He saw the white fish with black stripes swim up to where he was sitting. He became excited with anticipation. The fish began to sing what would become known as the most beautiful song ever heard by anyone. The fisherman sat there in amazement quitely thinking to himself, this was worth it.

 

[Meer]

I was thinking about typology tonight, and this seemed like a relevant thread. Some people talk about INTPs that lean towards the T or N side, with the latter being more artistically inclined, maybe. So I started thinking about cognitive functions and my own creative process.

When I'm painting or writing music, It's very automatic. I'll be thinking about someting completely different while my hand just goes at it, it just kind of knows what will work, because of what has worked in the past. It seems like Ti and Ne go in completely seperate ways, although sometimes I stop and think about how I should paint this next part or what chord I should use next. So I thought maybe that was Ne+Si? That can happen, right, but it's not ideal, or whatever?

I don't know, I'm kind of intoxicated.

 

[Dimensional Transition]

I was thinking about typology tonight, and this seemed like a relevant thread. Some people talk about INTPs that lean towards the T or N side, with the latter being more artistically inclined, maybe. So I started thinking about cognitive functions and my own creative process.

When I'm painting or writing music, It's very automatic. I'll be thinking about someting completely different while my hand just goes at it, it just kind of knows what will work, because of what has worked in the past. It seems like Ti and Ne go in completely seperate ways, although sometimes I stop and think about how I should paint this next part or what chord I should use next. So I thought maybe that was Ne+Si? That can happen, right, but it's not ideal, or whatever?

I don't know, I'm kind of inotxicated.

I know what you mean. People always ask me: 'So what are you going to draw? ', and I just say: 'Oh, I don't know, let's see what happens.' It's like my hand just does something.

 

[cheese]

goddammit, I hate all of you

(except moocow, I liked your paintings too much)

 

[Dimensional Transition]

I really love Moocow's paintings as well... I love that foggy style.

 

[darude11]

Nice paintings, DT! And those animations... well, honestly, no sense and truly random... they were great! +1 ninja

I am not professional drawer, music composer or writer. I am just drawing in school and know how to play piano (and maybe organ, except pedals). I like to draw... yeah, not so good in it, not drawing on professional quality (I often do mistakes... and when they are drawn with pen... then there is problem in drawing and I can do nothing, only start drawing again, or continue drawing). I am drawing when I am bored in school, planning to build something (in Minecraft) or when I am in "Creative mode" (need to create! need to create!). Maybe it is just expressed in strange way and it is for real in you too.
Well... what I like to draw?
-> Things with wings (The last attemps: Rock guitar [unfinished due to unoriginality, see Guitar Hero], Compass)
-> Things with deep explanation, metaphors (see my profile picture? it was originaly sketched with pencil on paper, then redrawn [not sure if understand - again drawn] on the Paint... simple and fast)
-> Things that have got something in common with my dreams (for life, not when sleeping).
-> Random original stuff (the animals described in another thread, see "Doodling in class")

But I do draw mostly when I am bored.

 

[thelithiumcat]

I am pretty creative but I'm not usually satisfied with what I can do.

My whole family's really musical. I myself love to decipher the layers of music and see whether I can remember it correctly. I love the patterns of drumming.

Visually, I don't really do much other than sketching with pencils, quite simply because it isn't convenient. I've spent the past several years developing my drawing skills and usually I can only really draw from a direct reference because I like to draw it exactly as it should be and get it perfect (which, of course, it never is). I draw by eye, usually. I'll show you some of my better stuff. I don't draw often, though. When I draw without reference it's usually something quite dark.

Without reference for Halloween.

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With reference: Slash (of Guns N' Roses).

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With reference: Slash (of Guns N' Roses).

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With reference: Nikki Sixx (of Motley Crue).

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I've done quite a few more but those are probably some of my best.

 

[Zensunni]

I posted a short story in Inner Sanctum a while back called Irony and Humor and just got it published two months ago in a journal.

 

[humblecheesecake]

DT, I love the floating stuff! Mainly the chicken-mess. And Moocow, the city ship is pretty baller.

I'm an INTP; I'm somewhat creative. Musically I am fairly well-eared, knowledgeable, and intuitive, allowing me to improvise and learn songs on the spot. I'm a second-year piano major (classical) at Virginia Commonwealth University, where I play tons of shit (Bach, Beethoven, Chopin, Rachmaninoff, etc) from memory. I also play guitar, drums, and bass.

I'm not really good at sounding humble, as my username should suggest, and this sentence, I realized, isn't helping. hehe

As far as composing, I've made digital MIDI music on a cheap program that plays back tablature for multiple instruments. I've always found it easier than notation software. The "pieces" sound like straight-up NES 8-bit music. I'm not sure if there's a way to post these? (.mid)

Lately, probably because of music school going somewhat against my personality, I'm never as creative as I want to be; my Si likes to interrupt my Ne... Any lyrics I attempt sound terribly emo, cliche, or unrelatable, but it's still a work in progress. If I take the bizarre route I can get the most done.

I'm more of an appreciator; and enjoy playing for the sake of playing.

As far as drawing, painting... useless. My drawings are reduced to symbols, concepts, theories of the universe made while stoned. My poetry is clever, but hardly poetic.

 

[Moocow]

I'm an INTP; I'm somewhat creative. Musically I am fairly well-eared, knowledgeable, and intuitive, allowing me to improvise and learn songs on the spot. I'm a second-year piano major (classical) at Virginia Commonwealth University, where I play tons of shit (Bach, Beethoven, Chopin, Rachmaninoff, etc) from memory. I also play guitar, drums, and bass.

Whoa! I'm also at VCU! I'm a former communication arts major turned psychology major, but a lot of times I wish I'd started with music.

I don't leave my apartment much but we could meet sometime, if you'd like.

Also I've been working on a few songs lately, but I'm mostly an amateur self taught guitar player.

 

[humblecheesecake]

WOW! I'll find you on AIM.

 

[Firehazard159]

http://firehazard159.deviantart.com/

I don't do art often but I usually enjoy it. I suffer the same as others; none of my stuff is ever good enough in my eyes.

Also pretty musically inclined, but I never record anything I make up.

 

[jameslikespie]

I don't consider myself artistic at all, while I do enjoy most forms of art, I find it imposible to make art.

 

[cheese]

So awesome; I'm *almost* meeting Moocow.

 

[humblecheesecake]

So awesome; I'm *almost* meeting Moocow.

Is that because you're in my usernames?

 

[sardonic-tea]

http://youtu.be/jnwPXOS0pWY

 

[orthopod]

Sure,
I'm quite creative at work and at play. At work, I'm an orthopaedic surgeon, specializing in tumors, and often need to improvise... OK How can I give this person a working leg, left with this amount of bone, this amount of muscle, and this artificial knee,

At play I play bass in a punk band, and often come up with songs, melodies, etc.

Yeah - I'm pretty sure the INTPs don't think like plain folk, and often think outside the box -i.e. creative.
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[Sijov]

I'm not hugely artistic, though I can draw, to an extent. I usually prefer detached lines and curves to form a simple piece, they're more doodles than anything.
Musically, I'm a reasonably good drummer, certainly better than I deserve to be, given the amount of time that I don't practice. I'm also a pianist when I bother to play, and I'm slowly teaching myself how to improvise pieces beyond one or two chord structures I devised so many years ago.

 

[nanook]

i used to think of myself as an artist. it was a symbol referring to my type, really. not about producing art. about seeing reality in a special way.

i was good at drawing. not excellent. but better than 99% of my classmates.
some stuff i drew in school.

and i was worse than age-mates in every other category known to me, other subjects, social life, skateboarding, looking good, everything.

so, the fact that i could draw a little was very important for my ridiculously low self esteem.

that is sad.

today i know myself. being creative is none of my strengths. understanding live and people is. although i don't understand those two in the way that is appreciated by the entranced masses. being a sensitive character, albeit distant and passive, is a strength too.

its important to me, to express myself, which is somewhat artistic. i prefer the word expression to creativity. frankly creativity sounds like some kind of enfp business.

i can use words to express everything, that wants to be expressed right now. i fantasize about becoming a visionary artist, like alex grey but i haven't taken remotely enough drugs yet.

 

[dark]

I am decent, not good. I can do various forms of art better than the average person, but that doesn't make me good enough. I wanted to becomes a cartoonist when I was in high school, I was talked out of that, even though I was damn good at making cartoons, about the only thing I can do well, made 3 cartoons and entered them in some video thing and won first place each time at the thing our school did, it was a state thing for something I can't remember right now.

Now I am attempting to regain my lost abilities in drawing and writing.

 

[infektious]

My First post. So hello all.

Loving all the artwork here. Moocow that's some awesome work.

I have some I'll display. They're not really 'finished pieces', and kind of old stuff, as I am getting more into concept design, 3D design and programming. In fact a few of these are just character concepts.

In no specific order:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/88/musicaleye.png/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/834/dinnersready.png/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/836/greenmachined.png/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/4/proportion.png/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/851/mouth.png/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/641/firedemon.png/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/193/bigdemon1.png/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/855/soiwsy.png/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/822/shadowdemonk.png/
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/190/value.png/

 

[metis]

Would a computer program count as creative art?