redbaron analyzes intpz

[DeadonDreaming]

I made cookies earlier for the kids.

just now, while reading about redbarons opinion about intpz's treatment of his mom, I said "ohhhh! I need a cookie!"

my INFP 12 year old set down his controller and went and brought me one with a smile.

Then I said "Ohhh! I need another cookie!"

and my ISTP 15 year old brought me another one and asked why I hadn't started the water for the noodles for dinner yet. I told him I was waiting on his dad to come back with the lettuce and bread from the store. and he said.

"Hmmm. Oh."


*sits back and eats cookies and reads thread and thinks about how great her kids are*

 

[kantor1003]

If you really were playing games all day and this is your way of avoiding having to admit to it? Then I feel sorry for your mum that she has to live with a piece of shit for a son like you.

Who pays to keep you in the place? Her? If so, she should kick your ungrateful ass into the street until you're ready to act like a grown-up.

I knew you were pathetic, but I had no idea how pathetic.

I'm not all that familiar with intpz (never paid much attention to his posts), but me thinks you are getting out of line.

 

[Minuend]

"You don't if I was playing games all day, in fact, you can't know."
"I know."
"How?"
"Intuitively."
"That's not knowing, that's speculation"
"I know."
"You already said that, and I said that you're speculating."
The we get one of the following: either she continues telling me that I was or wasn't doing something , or if she's in a worse mood, she tells me to "stop terrorizing her."

Completely unrelated to the topic. But there are ways to improve your interaction with your mother. The way you two act now, you make a spiral of negativity that make you quick to anger towards each other over minor details. These types of conversions are not debates, they are quarrels.

Try not to get irritated, try to remain calm. Don't feed this negative interaction. Even if you feel unjustly treated, nothing will improve by quarrelling with her. It's difficult to suggest how you could try to talk to her without knowing more than this quote.

 

[Proletar]

I'm not all that familiar with intpz (never paid much attention to his posts), but me thinks you are getting out of line.

I agree with this.

Like I said. This is a board. Don't like it, don't read it. If no one cares, those topics fade. It's like water in a lake. Naturally balanced.

 

[DeadonDreaming]

I agree with this.

Like I said. This is a board. Don't like it, don't read it. If no one cares, those topics fade. It's like water in a lake. Naturally balanced.

Word.

 

[DeadonDreaming]

Completely unrelated to the topic. But there are ways to improve your interaction with your mother. The way you two act now, you make a spiral of negativity that make you quick to anger towards each other over minor details. These types of conversions are not debates, they are quarrels.

Try not to get irritated, try to remain calm. Don't feed this negative interaction. Even if you feel unjustly treated, nothing will improve by quarrelling with her. It's difficult to suggest how you could try to talk to her without knowing more than this quote.

Minuend, are you related to Dr. Phil? You seem to have a lot of good advice for people. Have you thought about writing a book?

 

[intpz]

I think it is very easy to convince ourselves of any number of reasons for our actions and think the belief alone has some kind of role in whether it is true, but to other people, you might not be the first one behaving in such a way and though everyone can come up with reasons that are different and their own, the actions remain the same.

That is putting one in a box, assuming that you act the same as the others, disclaiming that there are different reasons for one's actions. Limiting the possibile reasons of one's actions.

Were you playing games all day? If not, just say so. Don't be a smart-ass by trying to fault her line of reasoning, just tell her you that you weren't, and prove it by telling her what it was you were doing instead. That conversation is what I would expect from a 10 year old.

That conversation happens every day, a bit different each day. It starts with me answering "that's not what I was doing," continuing to her repeating herself and completely ignoring what i just said due to her extreme suspition towards everybody (no exceptions), and hence distrust towards anybody.

I don't think a 10-year-old would think of stating a fact that she's living in her head and knows no facts.

If you really were playing games all day and this is your way of avoiding having to admit to it? Then I feel sorry for your mum that she has to live with a piece of shit for a son like you. She probably feels embarrassed that her son acts like that.

I feel the juice flowin'!

I never play games all day, I used to for a relatively short period of time when I bought my first PC, and even shorter when I bought my second PC.

That's quite a judgemental opinion, don't you think? Judgemental, isn't that somehow related to emotional imaturity, not accepting others as they are, judging them by what they do? Calling someone a piece of shit and all...

Your mum sounds like she genuinely loves and is concerned about you, but you're too worried about having to admit to being a loser who spent all day playing games, hiding behind the fact that she can't 'prove' that you did. What does it even matter? Did you or didn't you?

That's sweet, even more bashing towards video game players - calling them losers. Now who's emotionally imature?

Who pays to keep you in the place? Her? If so, she should kick your ungrateful ass into the street until you're ready to act like a grown-up.

She pays ~1/5th of the price. And she owns a quarter of the place, I own another quarter. But even if she paid full, why should she kick my "ungrateful" ass until "I'm ready to act like a grown-up?" Don't "grown-ups" play video games? And besides, what is grafulness? I never asked her to do it, she never did anything I asked her to, hence it's her choice, not mine.

If anything, I should throw her stuff outta my quater of the place and expand from 4m^2 to 10m^2.

Seems to me like it's you who is trying to get personal and enforce your opinions now... But hey, it's just me doing this thing called "thinking."

Do you ever help her around the house? Or let her relax while you take care of housework? Do you make an effort to see to her wants and needs? Do you even care about these things?

We don't do stuff around the house, she's too busy being out or relaxing. She's a minor/moderate hoarder.

The question you should be asking is if she makes an effort (or ever did) to see to my wants and needs. Then we can talk about hers, if a parent doesn't take care of his child, he doesn't deserve to be cared after when the child grows up. Respect has to be earned.

Seriously, the conversation you describe is how my nine year old cousin speaks to HIS mother. Except he's only NINE YEARS OLD, so it's understandable.

You said 10. So is it 9 or 10? Make up your mind dude!

Oh, and also read up about your argument here.

I hope you realise that the way you speak to your mother isn't intelligent, you're just playing the victim
I knew you were pathetic, but I had no idea how pathetic.

I love it when you talk dirty. *makes a homosexually attractive pose*

I made cookies earlier for the kids.

just now, while reading about redbaron's opinion about @intpz 's treatment of his mom, I said "ohhhh! I need a cookie!"

my INFP 12 year old set down his controller and went and brought me one with a smile.

Then I said "Ohhh! I need another cookie!"

and my ISTP 15 year old brought me another one and asked why I hadn't started the water for the noodles for dinner yet. I told him I was waiting on his dad to come back with the lettuce and bread from the store. and he said.

"Hmmm. Oh."


*sits back and eats cookies and reads thread and thinks about how great her kids are*

Those are nice kids, you must be a good parent.

Completely unrelated to the topic. But there are ways to improve your interaction with your mother. The way you two act now, you make a spiral of negativity that make you quick to anger towards each other over minor details. These types of conversions are not debates, they are quarrels.

Try not to get irritated, try to remain calm. Don't feed this negative interaction. Even if you feel unjustly treated, nothing will improve by quarrelling with her. It's difficult to suggest how you could try to talk to her without knowing more than this quote.

It's either me listening or us talking. I prefer us talking, wouldn't you?

Yea, there's A LOT of details behind this quote, would take me 2k words to give every RELEVANT detail. I do get irritated, I don't get angry, when I can, I don't raise my voice, unless she is rising her's, as then she's not listening to what I'm saying and it turns to me listening for a prolonged period of time, which is what I'm trying to avoid in the first place.

Minuend, are you related to Dr. Phil? You seem to have a lot of good advice for people. Have you thought about writing a book?

Dr. Phil, is that the thing they talk on American movies, some syrup or something?

 

[MissQuote]

I shall forever scorn you for attacking me with puppies.

Spoiler

ack!!! Get them off! get them off! The fluffy cuddly beasts! Devils! Devils!

 

[DeadonDreaming]

I shall forever scorn you for attacking me with puppies.

Spoiler

ack!!! Get them off! get them off! The fluffy cuddly beasts! Devils! Devils!

They're -5 to block, because they activated their swarming ability. They also have a passive cuteness ability that makes your character unable to attack them. Nasty buggers.

 

[Minuend]

It's either me listening or us talking. I prefer us talking, wouldn't you?

Well, no, I have no interest in long going quarrels. I would listen to the complains, then try to solve the conflict in a non-aggressive way. If there was no way to make amends, I would just ignore the person, I wouldn't keep having meaningless and empty fights.

 

[DeadonDreaming]

Well, no, I have no interest in long going quarrels. I would listen to the complains, then try to solve the conflict in a non-aggressive way. If there was no way to make amends, I would just ignore the person, I wouldn't keep having meaningless and empty fights.

No one is having fun in an argumentative thread. Aren't we here for lulz and to post pictures of cats? I know I am.

 

[DeadonDreaming]

 

[Lot]

Why hasn't this thread been shut down yet? It's very similar to the one where Cog (I think it was him) got all over Blob. That was shut down in like an hour. Although this has been a little entertaining. Can't you two just kiss and make up?

 

[Fukyo]

Why hasn't this thread been shut down yet? It's very similar to the one where Cog (I think it was him) got all over Blob. That was shut down in like an hour. Although this has been a little entertaining. Can't you two just kiss and make up?

Well first off, redbaron didn't create this thread. I did, by splitting it from the one about animals. I left it open because it was fairly impersonal, and there's nothing particularly wrong with honest assessment, even if the opinions are negative. The one Cog was made was closed because Blob and Cog have some long term animosity between them and the tone was different. I was going to keep this one open unless the sparks really started to fly.


Don't worry though, it seems redbaron is losing his patience, so it'll probably be closed soon.

 

[DeadonDreaming]

Intpz has been oddly confrontational with me in the past, but I don't think its appropriate to make this kind of thread. We come to this forum for enjoyment, not to bash each other. So, with the blessing of Monty Python, I present...

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[redbaron]

Well first off, redbaron didn't create this thread. I did, by splitting it from the one about animals. I left it open because it was fairly impersonal, and there's nothing particularly wrong with honest assessment, even if the opinions are negative.

I respect that you were open-minded enough to allow it to continue on that basis. Thanks for doing so

In any case I'm not likely to continue the discussion. Even the most impersonal analysis is met with childish response and snide remarks. Although it wasn't my intention to demonstrate as such, it seems that it's not only me who holds intpz' apparent immaturity and lack of intelligence in disdain.

Hopefully he eventually realises how much he stunts his own intellectual and emotional development by trying to rationalize why anything BUT his own actions might be a contributing factor to his problems.

 

[Solitaire U.]

Although it wasn't my intention to demonstrate as such, it seems that it's not only me who holds intpz' apparent immaturity and lack of intelligence in disdain.

Brash assumption. Go here: http://forums.intpcentral.com/ to start a fan club.

"Over thinking, over analyzing separates the body from the mind.
Withering my intuition, missing opportunities and I must
Feed my will to feel my moment drawing way outside the lines."

 

[Words]

Brash assumption.

Nope. Not on the "lack of intelligence" part at least. I don't like the idea of attempting to influence others out of any measure of "popular opinion", but it's up to intpz to decide whether others' criticisms hold meaning or not, or whether they are even relevant or not. Personally, I would less ignore intpz if he were more critical of his opinions---to analyze his reasonings more carefully than he does normally. That's because he's a dummy you see. The dumber you are, the more doubt is appreciated. heh.

"Over thinking, over analyzing separates the body from the mind.
Withering my intuition, missing opportunities and I must
Feed my will to feel my moment drawing way outside the lines."

And what a random quote. I disagree with this statement as well. There is no "over" thinking. The more the thinking, the better. It as an important aspect of my personality and It is my strength, but so is pure activity. That is, I feel no contradiction between them.

 

[Solitaire U.]

A lot of J going on here, TP preacher. Why don't you just ban him, boss?

Another random quote for you to disagree with...

"You have to have men who are moral... and at the same time who are able to utilize their primordial instincts to kill without feeling... without passion... without judgment... without judgment! Because it's judgment that defeats us"

 

[intpz]

I respect that you were open-minded enough to allow it to continue on that basis. Thanks for doing so

In any case I'm not likely to continue the discussion. Even the most impersonal analysis is met with childish response and snide remarks. Although it wasn't my intention to demonstrate as such, it seems that it's not only me who holds intpz' apparent immaturity and lack of intelligence in disdain.

Hopefully he eventually realises how much he stunts his own intellectual and emotional development by trying to rationalize why anything BUT his own actions might be a contributing factor to his problems.

If I recall correctly, you have said that you think that I'm intelligent without a doubt (or something including those words), now you're contradicting yourself, after being extra-personal and showing that you assume significantly more than you know or can know.

...Welll, anyway, wasn't a bad thread, to some point. Later it just became dull.