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Lately I've been in a really weird place, and I'm starting to realize that a lot of it has to do with the people I've been surrounding myself with. I'm living in a house for the summer with 6 of my closest friends, all great guys. But I'm finding more and more that despite how close I am with them, I'm very different from them and it can get a bit frustrating. My two best friends are ENFP's, I can talk a with them about pretty much any personal issue and I know they'll give me good advice. The rest of the people are all various other types of extroverts, with the exception of one other possible Sensing Introvert.

The way I look at things and the world is drastically different from them, and the more time I spend around them the more I feel that sense of alienation, of just being a completely different person. They are all smart people, or else I wouldn't be living with them, but I don't really think they are intellectuals in the sense that they view knowledge and rational thought as being absolutely essential. I can talk about my theories with my close friends and they'll be intrigued, but none of them are interested in discussing intellectual topics just for fun.

The only two people who I can really discuss things like this with are my Dad ( INTP) and one of my other good friends (ENTP), but the fact that he's extroverted still causes him to have a pretty drastically different way of viewing things than I do despite the fact that he and I think so similarly and have ideals that are pretty much the same.

I hate to sound pretentious, because I really am not, but I just feel like I'm much more mature and probably smarter than the majority of people I meet and it really gets tiring after a while. And to add to things, the more I try and embrace my introvertedness( going to the library, reading, engaging in any activity that I think will help me to connect with other introverts, since I feel like part of why I'm so unhappy is that I've been trying to live as an extrovert for the past 3 years...) they get all worried and offended as if somethings wrong, or I don't want to hang out with them.

I could keep ranting for a while but I think you guys get the point. Can any of you guys relate/ do you have any advice?
 

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Well a lot of my best friends are ENFPs too, and yeah they aren't necessarily intellectuals but they're at least intuitive and for me that's enough. Last year I spent most of my intellectual conversational time with my ENTP roommate, and he kind of annoyed me in that he'd have similar ideas but it was like he was just coming up with them right then...where as I'd already had the idea and reflected on it a long time ago... (pretentious statement right there). Idk, I've got friends of virtually every intuitive type right not except for an INFJ (WHERE ARE YOU!?!)... I love them all, but none of them are perfect for intellectual conversations at any given time. I'd just gather as many intuitive types as you can, appreciate that they slightly understand what you're talking about, and try to understand them as best you can.
 
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Well a lot of my best friends are ENFPs too, and yeah they aren't necessarily intellectuals but they're at least intuitive and for me that's enough. Last year I spent most of my intellectual conversational time with my ENTP roommate, and he kind of annoyed me in that he'd have similar ideas but it was like he was just coming up with them right then...where as I'd already had the idea and reflected on it a long time ago... (pretentious statement right there). Idk, I've got friends of virtually every intuitive type right not except for an INFJ (WHERE ARE YOU!?!)... I love them all, but none of them are perfect for intellectual conversations at any given time. I'd just gather as many intuitive types as you can, appreciate that they slightly understand what you're talking about, and try to understand them as best you can.

Haha yeah, my ENTP friend tends to do the same. I've realized that surrounding myself with intuitives rather than sensors is a good first step towards being happier...but I'm getting to the point where I don't think I could be in any sort of serious relationship with anyone but an intuitive thinker. I appreciate feelers and its necessary to have them around, but its just killing me not having a a close thinking friend to relate to, and I feel that developing a relationship with a thinker would help balance out my life.
 

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I can relate. I have hardly any intellectual friends in that sense of the word. Nearly all of them are smart, and they bear with me and try to act interested when I get all intellectual, but it's apparent that they don't really reciprocate. At the very least, they accept and like me for being intellectual. All I can really say is gravitate to "weird" people. It really increases the odds of finding an intuitive or few, which may not be intellectual, but at least are fun to be around and will accept the fact that you're intellectual. Introverted NTs are really scarce...

All I really have right now is an awesome INTP friend. Technically IRL, but we communicate so much better online. It's insane how similar we are.
 

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Haha yeah, my best friend through junior high and high school was an INTJ, and we always communicated on MSN more easily than IRL... but then things got weird (he came out as gay to me, turns out he was in love with me...ugh we're just NOW getting over that and becoming normal around each other again). Otherwise my other best friend was an INFP who was entirely way better at being nice to people than me and developed way more friendships and ended up being the homecoming king our senior year...I was basically a social outcast. Whatever, high school is lame. College is the place to be, as far as finding people who are on your level.
 

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I happen to be in the IB, which means there are some intelligent people around. Still, as mentioned earlier, there is a difference between intellectual talents and intellectual interests. None of them reveal extensive consideration of the existential matters I ponder. There have been some interesting discussions, but games and culture are in the focus most of the time.
 

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I would not say I had any intellectual friends. When I do explain and expand on some obscure interest point it is because I know they will turn it into humor. Injecting humor into obscure topics is awesome. I suck at explaining my views in person anyway and this leaves them confused more than interested and I end up feeling I didn't do the topic justice. Only a few times have they been interested. On a side note it may be simply because I have different interests than my friends. I type them: ENFP (has actually taken a test,) ESTP and INTJ (maybe... his interests beyond RPGs, Comics, and humor in general are hard to discern... I have never seen him get intellectual and so sometimes I think I mistype him and that he is an INFP).
 
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As an INTP, it often feels like a lonely world. I work in a relatively small office that is occupied entirely by E's. A couple of my co-workers are N's, so interesting conversations do occur. Still, I wonder how any of them get any work done! It seems like I'm the only office member who can grind away in front of a computer screen for more than 30 minutes at a time. The rest of them spend more time chatting with each other and on the phone (usually work-related, but not always) than doing "real" work. My boss, while he is an intelligent man and an effective attorney, can't seem to work alone for any stretch of time whatsoever. When we converse, it often feels like we're speaking different languages, even though we've known each other for over four years.

This has often led to feelings of isolation on my part, particularly lately. I wonder if any other INTP's on this forum have dealt with similar feelings in the workplace.
 

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All I can really say is gravitate to "weird" people.

I second that. All of the people that I know whom I'd consider intellectual in the terms you're using are definitely odd folk. Look for the person that looks out of place. I've never gone out looking for an intellectual, but that method would work for the ones I know... all 3 of em. The majority of weird folk aren't intellectuals though.. but they seem to contain a higher ratio than others.
 

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I happen to be in the IB....

What?! Get out of me!

As to the topic, I have few friends that are intellectual but the ones I do are great to be around. Probably the only time I look forward to being near other people. But alas they have their lives and pursuits and I have mine so it's not that often anymore that I get together with them. When you're at the age when everyone you used to hang out with has young children and you don't, it very much changes your social life.
 

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No friends. Period. Intellectual or otherwise.

By no friends, it is unlikely that anybody I know really considers me a friend, even if they may call me one publicly. I cannot consider someone a friend unless I am satisfied, at least on a balance of probabilities, that the other party considers me such.

Would it that I could be friends with any one of you INTPs! Unfortunately, this is an Internet forum.
 
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same here, walfin. my paranoid suspicions were correct and all my 'friends' dislike me...
i understand why, i am weird, i am dark (darker than anywhere knows - even the internet, even here. i keep as much about myself from this forum as i do IRL) and generally unlikeable...

1 'intellectual' former friend - but he developed and ego and decided he was too good for everyone. he treats me badly now (they all do!) and even my ISTP friend (who knows more about me than anyone else in the world) has started to dislike me :(

so no
 

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Uh, that's why I'm on here so much... Not that I don't have intellectual friends, but there is a big difference between being an INTP and say, an ENFP or an ENTP. My ENTP friend talks all the damn time and it's always so instantaneous so I never have time to formulate my thoughts properly and I'm stuck either responding with one-liners or making a minute observation on one of his comments. I always feel like my F friends are over-empathizing with me or something, like they are desiring me to feel more and they feel sorry for my inability to do so, so it often makes me feel awkward and self-conscious and I lose my train of thought, not to mention they always want to talk about personal feelings. I saw an ENFP friend recently. Something triggered me to make the comment, "Well, you know, I've been a bit of a hermit lately..." Her immediate response: "Lately?" Then she and my ESFJ friend laughed. The E friends are also always concerned that I need more of a social network. If only I had more of a social network and felt more, they tell me, I would be fulfilled.

Truthseeker, yes, I can relate very much to what you say about work. At all of the jobs I've had, everyone always wants to talk about their relationships or something non-work related. They also love to point out how reserved and quiet I am, and how much attention I pay to actually doing work. Uh, I can't help but think, isn't that the point?
 

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This has often led to feelings of isolation on my part, particularly lately. I wonder if any other INTP's on this forum have dealt with similar feelings in the workplace.

Been there, done that. Somehow I do seem to be able to find one interesting person in every workplace. I tend to be seen as easy to get along with, so in spite of being introverted I always seem to be involved in some sort of spirited discussion during breaks and lunch hour. That is one of the things that keeps me going, because I hate working for someone else.

i am weird, i am dark (darker than anywhere knows - even the internet, even here. i keep as much about myself from this forum as i do IRL) and generally unlikeable...

That means you are no different than others such as myself on this forum.
That doesn't make you unlikeable, just different. What percentage of the population was it that INTPs make up? Not bloody much. Join the club:D
As a much older adult, having had decades to cultivate friendships, I find myself with perhaps two non-related intellectual friends (having just re-found a friend from high school days, and picking up right where we left off decades ago), and two intellectual acquaintances. Luckily for me, I have a brother, father, wife, and older daughter (and sometimes my teen daughter) that I can converse with on an intellectual level. These other family members also value independent thought, and share a high IQ; so I'm pretty sure that I am luckier than most in that respect.
 
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i thought i had joined the club :D
 

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brain enclosed in flesh said:
My ENTP friend talks all the damn time and it's always so instantaneous so I never have time to formulate my thoughts properly and I'm stuck either responding with one-liners or making a minute observation on one of his comments.
Sometimes it's irritating when you do have something to say and can't get in a word edgewise.
And silence doesn't constitute consent!!! Grr!!!
The lack of friendships with ENTPs could be a result of that. They can sense that the INTP gets a little frustrated with them after a while.

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Yeah, okay. Then resign yourself to your fate...
Ah, you've missed out on a good chance to get him to pay more membership fees, mate. :p

Actually I do know 2 ENTPs irl (my guess) who might be friends. I couldn't be sure, though.
 

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I'm quite isolated myself. That is why I am going to immerse myself in academia. I don't relate to my friends anymore and I don't really get along with the other students in my school for cultural reasons.

I plan on doing research, that way I will be stuck with people just like me.

I don't have any advice for you. My solution is that I am going to do some volunteer work next year. I may not meet any intellectuals, but at least I'll feel good.
 

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One of the biggest barriers in communication between E's and I's is the former's complete inability to stick to one topic. Meanwhile, I'm always trying to keep the conversation anchored to one subject at a time. I'm willing to bet other INTP's here have experienced the same problem.
 

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One of the biggest barriers in communication between E's and I's is the former's complete inability to stick to one topic. Meanwhile, I'm always trying to keep the conversation anchored to one subject at a time. I'm willing to bet other INTP's here have experienced the same problem.

Oh yeah.
 

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I have a lot of friends, some close, but not as close as they used to be. I was raised a strict Christian and many of my friendships revolve around that fact. The only problem is I don't really believe what I was taught about religion growing up so I would be an outcast is I revealed my doubts. It is hard for me to see how they can't be objective about the subject but I know if I fully reveal my strong doubts it would hurt the friendships so I'm in the closet so to speak.

Lots of friends, they like me but don't understand me.
 

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I hate to sound pretentious, because I really am not, but I just feel like I'm much more mature and probably smarter than the majority of people I meet and it really gets tiring after a while.

I know that feeling. Because I used to live in USA I could go to school earlier than in Germany so I'm the 3rd (?) youngest in my grade. And still I rather hang around with older people. My best friend from school is an ENFP who had to repeat one year. The other NT's in my grade are usually already in established cliques where I would rather go through hell than budge in. But even if an NT talks to me it's kind of weird, though I've started to feel more comfortable with one ENTJ recently. With the others it's always kind of formal and there's nothing we can catch on and spin a conversation off.

There are some NF's I might like to know better but they are also always hanging around with friends and I'd rather have a one-on-one conversation and certainly not just budge in a group.

Most other people are just boring or exhausting. Their conversations simply have no depth. :(
 

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The way I look at things and the world is drastically different from them, and the more time I spend around them the more I feel that sense of alienation, of just being a completely different person. They are all smart people, or else I wouldn't be living with them, but I don't really think they are intellectuals in the sense that they view knowledge and rational thought as being absolutely essential. I can talk about my theories with my close friends and they'll be intrigued, but none of them are interested in discussing intellectual topics just for fun.

The only two people who I can really discuss things like this with are my Dad ( INTP) and one of my other good friends (ENTP), but the fact that he's extroverted still causes him to have a pretty drastically different way of viewing things than I do despite the fact that he and I think so similarly and have ideals that are pretty much the same.

I hate to sound pretentious, because I really am not, but I just feel like I'm much more mature and probably smarter than the majority of people I meet and it really gets tiring after a while. And to add to things, the more I try and embrace my introvertedness( going to the library, reading, engaging in any activity that I think will help me to connect with other introverts, since I feel like part of why I'm so unhappy is that I've been trying to live as an extrovert for the past 3 years...) they get all worried and offended as if somethings wrong, or I don't want to hang out with them.

I could keep ranting for a while but I think you guys get the point. Can any of you guys relate/ do you have any advice?

My life situation is similar to yours.
I got used to and it horrible to change my way of behaving to be less strange in daily context, most of the time this context is school (Besides going to school and exercising myself: tennis, swimming, karate... I stay home and do not communicate with others, though this is changing, not surprising I am now 15 y.o). For example, it was hell, especially from 5th to 8th/9th grade, to purposely limit the way you speak, your usual vocabulary, because of others to avoid being the "show-off", rather intimidating other people, it really pissed me off and in spite of all my efforts to behave like others I always felt how different I was from most of them (I met a few really interesting people at this point, though I only keep in touch with one of them). Of course, it did not need to say that an deep conversation (except with these close friends) was out of question.

Then, last year I went to highschool hoping for change and was really disapointed, although this highschool was said to be amazingly high level and a technical school (Computing Science, Eletronics, Mechanics etc...), always top class in highschool national exams and blah, blah, blah, I stayed in the same situation and then I realised something:
I was, probably, the one at fault
, my way of communicating, relating to others was seriously lacking, besides this point I've never wanted to really relate to others (never interested at all, so of course I couldn`t hope to delight my self in a conversation with someone who didn`t know me), It was really (and I mean REALLY) uncommon for me to start a conversation, interact with others, all of my few friends took the initiative to relate with me and that is why, after changing schools I simply lost touch with most of them (since, until now I really do not communicate).

Well, this is what I've thought so far and I have to confess that it was only about a week ago after reading Goethe's Die Leiden des jungen Werthers, and thinking about things like (the purpose of existence, maturity as a unity) that the something struck me out: We need others (lol), I wouldn't know about this guy (Goethe) life if I haven't read this book, to exist is to be remembered; there was a really interesting said by Werther about how insignificant we are to others, but how they make the difference (if your mother is suffering on the verge of death, and you plenty of health you can't to much).

Now, looking for new people with same interests, people who won't bore me. I thought exact the same thing as you (reading in a public library, putting a paper written "CHESS: Challenger wanted" or something like this.). And to start paying attention to my surroundings, how exactly are people who are actually close to me (like I said who did it by themselves) and how to deepen this bound avoiding what happened in the past (I really regret losing touch with them=/).
 

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To be honest I don't really care for 'intellectual' discussions anymore and would rather just read a book or this forum. On occasion I'll have a moment where something cool clicks and I'm passionate and just blab something making use of all the strange terms I've accumulated.. and I wished I had someone who understood. But I also don't; my thoughts are private. Having less people to probe is a blessing. Perhaps that'll change some day. One thing I want to do is find an ENTJ I get along with and perhaps start a business or at least try to pick up on some of their habits.

I just need deep and inquisitive people. Dreamers. And I have quite a few of them. I also love my ENFP's, even though I can only take so much of them.
 

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^ Me too. At this point, I don't care about intellectualism nearly as much as I do understanding and being understood. This doesn't mean I'm willing to dispose of the less easily understood parts of me, but I've realized that intellectualism (not intellect) has kept me more aloof than I'd prefer. Sure, it's great fun to "geek out" on occasion and use all the jargon I've picked up like you said, but this has only brought me superficial satisfaction. At the same time, it seems I've ended up abandoning my Ti half the time because of all the trouble it's caused me, the thoughts I can't articulate, the analysis paralysis, etc. I hope abandoning intellectualism doesn't abandon my primary function further as that would be a waste.

While it's important to have someone to be passionate about intellectual concepts with, it's more important to have someone who knows how to bring out my better attributes and turn my bad ones into something more positive.
 

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^ me three. o.o I thought perhaps there was something wrong with me for disregarding intellect, but I guess I'm not alone. Before, logic used to be all that mattered, but now there are other functions that I willingly let overpower it. I see it's incompetence in so many other areas of life now and, as you mentioned Ermine, it would often only put me in a state of paralysis. I now find much richer satisfaction in the more emotional functions than logic ever provided.

Perhaps I'm just going thought a phase. Decaf's mentioned that one's MBTI never changes so I don't need to worry about my Ti disappearing. So then, if it will be there whenever I get back, then why not put if away for a while and experiment with some other perspectives for a while, y'know? I have nothing to lose, and a whole world to gain.

@ Waterstiller, you're so lucky~ ^^;;
I'm happy for you. You've been blessed with such an amazing company. I can't help but envy you..
 

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How do you know that I didn't just imagine them? That I finally snapped and had to create people that I connect with because there simply weren't any in reality?

Either way.. if you ever find yourself in SoCal you're more than welcome to join our tea party where we'll be playing cards, musing possibilities, and searching for buried and treasured memories.
 

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*sigh* that sounds too perfect...
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*imagines having tea with waterstiller and her (imaginary?) friends*
 

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How do you know that I didn't just imagine them? That I finally snapped and had to create people that I connect with because there simply weren't any in reality?

Either way.. if you ever find yourself in SoCal you're more than welcome to join our tea party where we'll be playing cards, musing possibilities, and searching for buried and treasured memories.

If imagining them is the case, I beg you to tell me how.

I supose that like Ermine and Aurburn, I am changing towards this way... Now that you mentioned, I supose it is quite natural, now that I am not seen as a child anymore (i.e can walk freely around city) I started to pay more attention to my surrounding and subconsciously wonder if there were something more interesting out there, the desire to experience new things, since I was not contented with the way things are.
Walking hands with this new behaviour is the awareness of my feelings and how it is worth the effort to struggle for happiness (Well, I guess), satisfaction in other ways than the ones in my previous tiny world.
 

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I'm still looking for more intellectual people. I would love to find a group just to bounce ideas off of.
 

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I have one close intellectual friend. She is an INTJ (I've read much about the ENTP<>INTJ 'thing'.. but anyways), and she is probably the one person that I don't have to reign something in around. As a female, and a black (Nigerian) one no less, most of my childhood environment was spent around women of the xSFJ designation with a few xSTJ or xSFPs thrown in, who've always viewed my unique (crazed) viewpoints and atypical (lunatic) interests as distinctly 'off'. She, being from a similar cultural standpoint in the Middle East has experienced much of the same, so we can talk a great deal about that if nothing else. Also, she's of the political bent (create maximum efficiency world model and use intellect, achievements and vast connections to make this model a reality flavor), so there's not much of an urge to censor some of my stranger science/engineering based hypothetical inventions. It's great fun.
 

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I work with an ENTP and if I ask a question I get a response in line with his misguided perception of the question I'm asking. His responses often come across to me that he thinks I'm an idiot and I receive oversimplified, drawn out, irrelevant details. - mostly, pointing out the obvious.
Im having huge issues at the moment cause I'm lacking stimulating conversation - most interactions involve a topic being brought up by someone and when I think "Aah!...." the conversation moves on to the next brief "topic". Personally, I dont see the point in having "snippet" conversations. I like to learn, explore, argue, test etc etc.
To top this off, I'm also female. I can participate in a long conversation about how many nappies little Johnny went through (if I cared to) or get an extensive list rattled off on where the cheapest groceries can be bought (yawn).
Seriously looking at going back to uni and getting into a lot more debt just so I can have a serious, intellectual conversation... really!:smoker:
 

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I am very rarely around any people who are rational, logical, and thought provoking (in a good way). My parents are pretty good for that, however. My dad is one of those crazy ENTJs and my mom a knowledge-obsessed, albeit emotional, INFJ. I call them once a week and they have been (most of the time) my happy little lifeboat of higher thinking.
 

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its like everyone at this forum is as smart as i am, probably smarter, so i am jealous of you guys. But in real life i dont really know hardly anyone as smart as i am, or if they are, they dont have the same interests as i do. so its like i am fucked either way.
 

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When 99/100 people around you are dumber than you, it can be difficult to find a good match. I know that even with my relatively intelligent friends, even the ones who are smarter than me, I notice their thinking tends to be limited in some way. Okay yeah not everyone is going to be interested in the same stuff as me. When you find someone who IS interested in the same things as you, you often find that they have rigid opinions about this and that, and are unwilling to do any mental exercises of debating it.

I enjoy a 5 minute conversation about football now and again, especially if it's with someone who's knowledgeable about sports (or whatever), but there's only so much fact-exchanging you can do before it becomes tiresome.

I guess when I meet someone who's genuinely interesting, I put up my guard a little bit and start worrying about being rejected. Perhaps I should just try to get beyond that and try to make more of an effort to form relationships with such people.
 

Ritsuka

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For me Ill get a friend I can talk to intellectually at least for a little while, but they generally wont talk back, just listen. It starts to get frustrating, which is why I look for websites and other things such as this to get it out of my system.
 

Infinite Regress

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IRL I haven't found anyone who approaches interests/hobbies intellectually and as deep as I would like. Everyone always seems jaded or content with their progress [seems that way to me], causing me to look for other people who might possibly share my enthusiasm to be around.

But then again, it would also explain my lack of close friends and relationships.
 

Andy

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The absolutely worst thing is when I want to say something meaningful or have an interesting argument but I know people will just laugh at me or wipe off my words by saying something slightly insulting and stupid ("funny") because what I want to say doesn't sound COOOL. I hate arguing because the other person can always ignore what I just said and end it with some wannabe witty remark that completely detracts from the discussed subject (at which everyone laughs - including me because I don't want the people to think it pissed me off, and in fact it kinda does because my words are rendered meaningless, wrong and lame). I prefer discussing things via internet because it allows you to slowly analyze the subject and keep track of responses plus you have time to think (silence in verbal argument = look you got him he has no words).

I think of myself to be very open-minded and looking at things from different angles but I also expect it from other people, which almost never happens. I spent many years trying to avoid judging people around me but I've stopped recently and whenever I am around people which I find narrow-minded, arrogant or dumb I shut up and keep thoughts to myself. :bitter:
 

-Z-

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Intelligent friends? No. Friends at all? Hardly.
Although there are many that tend to call me friend when my skills are needed for their (mostly profit driven) pursuits.
I'm thinking of taking some robotics courses and building myself a few friends that will suit me. ^^
 

Murphy1d

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GREAT TOPIC!!!

I was about to begin this discussion with my favorite "buffer statement" which is "I hate to say it, BUT..." and then I realized "You guys get it. No need to buffer."

I love that...anyway, what I was going to say was:

I feel like I don't have any real friends, only people that I can laugh with, take a few drinks with and talk about surface things (Dude, look at the hotties).

But I have no friends that I can say "Patrick Norton twittered about Project Orion and I realized when reading that the pusher plates were exactly what Frau Erasmas was pointing out" and they have a clue.

And that's where I live.
 

Intrinsic

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I'm sure many, many INTs can relate with this.

I'm still in high school, a single-sex school, and I'm surrounded by SFs, the type that I least relate to. Even though my school is a 'selective' high school, I find myself surrounded by unintellectuals. Sorry if I come off as a bit pretentious, but yes, a large proportion of the students there are highly intelligent, but not very much intellectual.

My family is composed of an ISTP father, ESFJ mother and ESFP brother. No N in there at all.
 

jsibley1

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I think that I scare people away from being my friend. The people in my family I don't relate to and the people that I meet outside of family are into things I don't care about.

I am considering making or buying a t-shirt that has "INTP" printed on it. Maybe I'll one day run into a fellow INTP that knows what it means.
 

shoeless

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I am considering making or buying a t-shirt that has "INTP" printed on it. Maybe I'll one day run into a fellow INTP that knows what it means.

...thank you, now i FINALLY know what to do with that blank grey shirt and fabric markers i had laying around...


no, seriously, i just made myself an INTP shirt.

i'm wearing it tomorrow.
 
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