Life as an INTP

[CoryJames]

How do you figure?

 

[Mello]

You're avatar, man. You look quite happy.

 

[CoryJames]

I was plastered. It was a school dance Halloween night.

 

[Mello]

Looks like fun.

 

[CoryJames]

It was alright.

 

[AlisaD]

I am not so sure about the acute brilliance part. I have never found myself consciously needing to be good at something. I do, however, hate feeling perceived as weak or vulnerable, or not being recognized for what I am. (that is not meant to sound cocky, I just don't like people who steal credit for others work).


Here are some pictures as proof...(I don't like people not recognizing/denying that I am being honest...)

I know you're not doing it on purpose, it's just that you're used to being good at everything. You don't see the point of failing, being bad at something or being perceived as anything less than what you are. It's perfectly understandable. Especially if you're smart, good looking, captain of the what-ever team and popular. Even your misbehaviour is pretty cool. You seem like someone a teenage girl would dream up if she was imagining a perfect boyfriend.

It's real neat, except for the fact that you don't seem to be happy with what you are getting out of it.

My suggestion - drop it. All of it. Try being human for a while. The cool kids might no longer like you, but the cool kids are never really that cool anyway.

My experience is - pretty people come and go, but one weirdo friend can last a lifetime. And weirdos don't usually seek out the company of Captain Perfect.

 

[CoryJames]

I know you're not doing it on purpose, it's just that you're used to being good at everything. You don't see the point of failing, being bad at something or being perceived as anything less than what you are. It's perfectly understandable. Especially if you're smart, good looking, captain of the what-ever team and popular. Even your misbehaviour is pretty cool. You seem like someone a teenage girl would dream up if she was imagining a perfect boyfriend.

It's real neat, except for the fact that you don't seem to be happy with what you are getting out of it.

My suggestion - drop it. All of it. Try being human for a while. The cool kids might no longer like you, but the cool kids are never really that cool anyway.

My experience is - pretty people come and go, but one weirdo friend can last a lifetime. And weirdos don't usually seek out the company of Captain Perfect.

The thing is I am being myself now. If I purposely change that doesn't that make me fake, like the other "cool kids"? I just want to find someone who is ok with me as me, even if that involves some subconscious perfectionism. My current girlfriend is doing that, but I am looking for some kids as friends, just closer than the social aquantinces I have now.

 

[ashitaria]

Wow...you seem to have a really well developed Fe, assuming you are an INTP. Not many INTPs are willing to expose their life outside the forum along with pictures and yet you have done so just a day after you joined. I applaud you.

As for your situation, the only solution to that is to wait. Wait until you are in college, wait until you are in a job, just wait until you find someone to connect with. Hey, I've been waiting for a long time myself, and there hasn't yet been anyone that I could connect with.

I suggest you join the forums and use it as an out-let to satisfy your intellect. A sure hella other people are here to satisfy their intellect.

Of course, your eighteen and that's about four years older then me, so I doubt I should be giving any advice.

 

[Marbas]

Something you should know before you go off to university:

You are not as smart as you think you are.

 

[ashitaria]

Something you should know before you go off to university:

You are not as smart as you think you are.

That's what I've been thinking as well.
I never consider myself as intelligent because there are always people smarter than me. In fact, I would consider myself stupid as compared to people smarter than me.

Never get too full of yourself CJ. The bigger you are, the harder you fall.

 

[Marbas]

That's what I've been thinking as well.
I never consider myself as intelligent because there are always people smarter than me. In fact, I would consider myself stupid as compared to people smarter than me.

Never get too full of yourself CJ. The bigger you are, the harder you fall.

Seriously, I taught myself Measure Theory, Vector Calc, Set-Point Topology, and Linear Algebra in high school. Still met a bunch of people smarter than me in uni. When you consider yourself to be intelligent, you'll get complacent. And that's very very bad.

 

[AlisaD]

The thing is I am being myself now. If I purposely change that doesn't that make me fake, like the other "cool kids"? I just want to find someone who is ok with me as me, even if that involves some subconscious perfectionism. My current girlfriend is doing that, but I am looking for some kids as friends, just closer than the social aquantinces I have now.

In that case I apologize. I still think that you suffer from an overabundance of brilliantness, but it's a burden you choose to carry, and one might add that you do so marvelously.

As for friends, I'm sure someone worthy of your attention will appear sooner or later. The very fact that you found a girlfriend who understands and supports you is quite encouraging.

If you ever get tired of being you and start to feel the need to become a lost little underachiever I'd be glad to lend a hand. Not that you'd need it, come to think of it, if you ever make this choice, you'll probably be the most lost, most underachieving little bastard the world has ever seen

Good luck

 

[RubberDucky451]

I think cjobrien7 is the first person on INTP I've seen with friends in his avatar.

 

[CoryJames]

You know what sucks? This became a thread about me and my life. It was supposed to be a question to you all asking if you ever wish you weren't INTP

 

[Melkor]

Hahaha.

Woah.

I'm surprised at just how revealing you are good sir.

In this short thread you have already divulged more than ANY INTP I have ever know on this forum, and when you consider I know one in person, and have been phoning/emailing others for nearly two years now, that’s quite an achievement.

I don't know...

I can see what you mean, you seem to fulfil all that is generally considered as the antithesis of the INTP, excessively sporty, team player, social, dancing in the public field of vision, so while you may be INTP (Not saying it's impossible, just seems unlikely), I can see how it would be a frustrating problem for you.

Most people in your position would have and need a degree of extroversion, and possibly a bit of J, in order to thrive off all the activity and spontaneity that such hobbies require, and I must say, if all is true then I do pity you greatly.

Myself?

I sometimes wish I had a bit of extroversion, or that I had the will to see all my projects through to the end...

It would most definitely improve my life, and be 'healthier' to be anything but INTP...

But when the day is dying, and the moon is hung low and glowing, I might sit alone, squeezed into a snug corner, or lurking beneath a quiet forest canopy, and from there contemplate, my greatest comfort, my sole companion, a stretch of words, a line of numbers, a lone thought perpetuated by expansion , and I think, maybe this introversion thing.... is just the purest form of human godliness.


(Oh, of the visuals, you also seem to ignore the physical rules, you know, INTP males are almost always skinny, pale, frowning, and with this glorious facial structure that seems both faintly asymmetrical and fragile.
Hah, you have the face of one of the ESFJ Irish rugby players I always run into at school.)

 

[CoryJames]

Hahaha.

Woah.

I'm surprised at just how revealing you are good sir.

In this short thread you have already divulged more than ANY INTP I have ever know on this forum, and when you consider I know one in person, and have been phoning/emailing others for nearly two years now, that’s quite an achievement.

I don't know...

I can see what you mean, you seem to fulfil all that is generally considered as the antithesis of the INTP, excessively sporty, team player, social, dancing in the public field of vision, so while you may be INTP (Not saying it's impossible, just seems unlikely), I can see how it would be a frustrating problem for you.

Most people in your position would have and need a degree of extroversion, and possibly a bit of J, in order to thrive off all the activity and spontaneity that such hobbies require, and I must say, if all is true then I do pity you greatly.

Myself?

I sometimes wish I had a bit of extroversion, or that I had the will to see all my projects through to the end...

It would most definitely improve my life, and be 'healthier' to be anything but INTP...

But when the day is dying, and the moon is hung low and glowing, I might sit alone, squeezed into a snug corner, or lurking beneath a quiet forest canopy, and from there contemplate, my greatest comfort, my sole companion, a stretch of words, a line of numbers, a lone thought perpetuated by expansion , and I think, maybe this introversion thing.... is just the purest form of human godliness.


(Oh, of the visuals, you also seem to ignore the physical rules, you know, INTP males are almost always skinny, pale, frowning, and with this glorious facial structure that seems both faintly asymmetrical and fragile.
Hah, you have the face of one of the ESFJ Irish rugby players I always run into at school.)

Well I am Irish, (also italian), and I will be playing rugby next year at college so go figure. Also, I don't understand why everyone here feels the need to discredit my INTPness...Tiger Woods is INTP, why can't I be? Not that I would ever think to compare myself to Tiger Woods, but he is also sporty and most people wouldn't consider him a loner or anything.

Also, to clarify, I am not really social. It all feels very fake, I have said that before.

 

[Melkor]

D'oh.

I should have taken 'O'Brien' as a hint, considering I know about eight hundred of them.>.>

Ah, Italian too, wow, you seem to have taken all the good genes, lucky sod.

I mean, you could have shoulder length red/straw coloured frizzy hair and a wide nose/ dreadful goatee.


Also, you must forgive us, as INTP's we are naturally skeptical of everything, and we scuttle away from the openness you seem to be tossing at us.

By saying you are an INTP, and then being open, you are threatening our generally hermit like behaviour, by making the point (albeit accidentally) that all INTP's could be like you if they tried hard enough.

To put it in laymans terms, you're showing us up, and we don't like it!

edit: INTP's like to use their type as an excuse to *not* do things. Using type as an excuse to try things is unthinkable!!

 

[Crazythinker1]

As much as I hate to admit it, I halfway agree with the Melkor.

And to answere you question CJ, no I do not wish I were any other type. Mostly because I accept the way that I am and while being a INTP does have it's drawbacks, it also has several perks.

 

[Words]

Tiger Woods is INTP, why can't I be? Not that I would ever think to compare myself to Tiger Woods, but he is also sporty and most people wouldn't consider him a loner or anything.

I would just like to point out that I do not agree with that typing.

 

[CoryJames]

I would just like to point out that I do not agree with that typing.

I read it somewhere and accepted it as true. After all, part of his skill in golfing comes from not getting emotionally involved, remaining cold, calculating, and objective. Also, any who have seen an interview with Tiger Woods, he is a pretty awkward dude and doesn't look comfortable talking.


On a sidenote, I am not attempting to show anyone up with my forthcomingness. I think it may be because I have been meeting with my shrink for so long now that I have realized there is some benefit in being open. Hiding things can be painful, and there is no real benefit in it.

 

[Words]

I read it somewhere and accepted it as true. After all, part of his skill in golfing comes from not getting emotionally involved, remaining cold, calculating, and objective. Also, any who have seen an interview with Tiger Woods, he is a pretty awkward dude and doesn't look comfortable talking.

And I remember him being an adjusted person. He's quite methodical, you see. His decisions are stiff. If he wants to use a certain golfing position, then he will stubbornly maintain it (as planned).

 

[Ska]

CJ, I have a question for you. You keep saying how unhappy you are that you've been unable to establish relationships with people and connect to them, but most of your pictures show you with people. Why is that? If I had a bad history with squirrels, I don't think I would make my avatar a picture of me surrounded by a bunch of squirrels. Kind of a bad example, but hopefully you get my point.

Like everyone else said, let go. I see you blaming yourself that you don't have things to share, but I don't think that's the problem. It's more likely that the people you surround yourself with have nothing to offer YOU. The people that do have things to offer to you (knowledge, intellect), who you can connect with, are the less popular geeks who you might not want to be associated with (because you play on sports team and hang out with the "cool kids."

I have played school and travel ice hockey all my life. I, for the most part, except for my INTJ friend and one other friend, associated myself with much less intelligent people than myself. Looking back, weed probably had a lot to do with it, but I digress. Other than my one ENFP friend (who can make me/anyone laugh...and is also misunderstood a lot of the time which I get and I think he knows that), my INTJ friend I've known since 2nd grade, and maybe one other friend, I really couldn't give a shit about any of them. They have next to nothing to offer me. I'm in college now, and have found some close, intelligent, possibly INTP friends who I can have intellectual discussions with and debate with. It's much more rewarding, and fun, I've found. They also enjoy having a close circle of friends, like I do, while some of my extroverted friends back home would always wonder why I didn't talk to other people.

I think the best advice in this thread would be to drop what you know, and find some friends that you CAN connect with. Maybe you haven't found them because you've been searching in all the wrong places for all the wrong reasons. Sports are fun, but you don't need to hang out with those kids to play sports. They probably won't understand, but really, who gives a fuck? Other than being your teammates, they have nothing to offer you.

Embrace your INTPness (If you truly are an INTP; I don't have an opinion on the matter). It's who you are. INTPs are not meant to be sports captains (or at least put up with everything that comes along with it), so while it's great that you are (I was captain of my high school hockey team, I can relate), I wouldn't get caught up with all the attention you are getting. It's simply overrated.

Take a dive off the deep end, man. Find out who you really are, what kind of people you can connect with, and get some real friends. It may all seem backwards, but that's because everyone judges books by their covers.


As for your question, I actually like being INTP. I love being the minority, and I am glad I don't spend my time worrying about the trivial things others let consume their thoughts, conversations, and lives. And when I found out I was an INTP, it answered a ton of questions for me. It explained to me why I am the way I am, why I have never been that great socially (at least compared to "normal" people), and why my girlfriend and I of over a year recently broke up.

On one last, semi-related note, I've noticed when anyone says they hate how much attention they get for being physically attractive, that all the non-attractive people get defensive. "It must be such a burden to be beautiful," I recall reading on another forum (or something like that). But, think about it - do YOU want attention from the people around you? All being attractive does it bring attention. So think about it: If you don't want attention, why would you want to be attractive. I believe it DOES put someone like an INTP in an even more awkward situation than it is to begin with. So while I can see why a statement like that might make some mad, it does make a lot of sense. Just my opinion, though.

 

[Melkor]

Other than to remain inconspicious and thus not draw attention or conflict, give yourself an intellectual advantage over any person by allowing yourself the first move( having seen their hand while keeping your own hidden), protect your identity and self, and better solve your own internal problems without biased human intervention that couldn't possibly know the best thing for you?

No really, am I missing anything?

 

[CoryJames]

CJ, I have a question for you. You keep saying how unhappy you are that you've been unable to establish relationships with people and connect to them, but most of your pictures show you with people. Why is that? If I had a bad history with squirrels, I don't think I would make my avatar a picture of me surrounded by a bunch of squirrels. Kind of a bad example, but hopefully you get my point.

Just because I have a bad history with people doesn't mean I have hidden/will hide from them for the rest of my life. Despite being INTP and having trouble emotionally relating to people, or relating period, I want to try still, not just exclude everyone who doesn't share the same interests as me. And most of the time, you don't take pictures when you are alone, and its hard to get a picture taken of you if you are alone, neh? So even if I spent 80% of my life by myself, 80% of my pictures wouldn't be of me alone...

Like everyone else said, let go. I see you blaming yourself that you don't have things to share, but I don't think that's the problem. It's more likely that the people you surround yourself with have nothing to offer YOU. The people that do have things to offer to you (knowledge, intellect), who you can connect with, are the less popular geeks who you might not want to be associated with (because you play on sports team and hang out with the "cool kids."

I do not purposely surround myself with any one group. I know sports have been a huge part of my life, but I was also on the math team, in the band, and take piano lessons. I attended the gifted and talented program when I was younger, and I attend National Youth Leadership meetings now. I do volunteer work. I surround myself with many types of people. I do not believe the problem is the type of person I am with, I have been around many types of people. I truly believe it is the nature of the relationship that keeps that invisible wall up that keeps it from being a "close" or "meaningful" relationship. From what I have been told by my psychiatrist, and I have rationalized and reasoned this and it makes sense, relationships thrive on the emotional give and take. Think about it from the other persons perspective when interacting with an INTP. They are giving you emotion, their responses to things are full of it, they may be telling you a story and they feel a certain way about it. We, the INTP, strip back the emotion, analyze the content, and make responses that are free of emotion, and that do not necessarily pamper the person's need for empathy. Of course that would keep people from being close to you. There is only so much a person can take of that.


Take a dive off the deep end, man. Find out who you really are, what kind of people you can connect with, and get some real friends. It may all seem backwards, but that's because everyone judges books by their covers.

I know who I really am, please do not assume that I have been faking my whole life. I am trying to make real friends though.

As for your question, I actually like being INTP. I love being the minority, and I am glad I don't spend my time worrying about the trivial things others let consume their thoughts, conversations, and lives. And when I found out I was an INTP, it answered a ton of questions for me. It explained to me why I am the way I am, why I have never been that great socially (at least compared to "normal" people), and why my girlfriend and I of over a year recently broke up.

I am sorry to hear about you and your girlfriend, and I felt the same way when I first found out that I was INTP. I was like wow, this explains a ton.

On one last, semi-related note, I've noticed when anyone says they hate how much attention they get for being physically attractive, that all the non-attractive people get defensive. "It must be such a burden to be beautiful," I recall reading on another forum (or something like that). But, think about it - do YOU want attention from the people around you? All being attractive does it bring attention. So think about it: If you don't want attention, why would you want to be attractive. I believe it DOES put someone like an INTP in an even more awkward situation than it is to begin with. So while I can see why a statement like that might make some mad, it does make a lot of sense. Just my opinion, though.

I am not really sure where you are going with this...

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[Words]

^Does that reply method really work for people?

 

[Ska]

Sorry for any unnecessary assumptions I made, I just tried to help the best I could from what I've gathered in this thread and my experiences in life.

And that last part was just something else that came to mind I felt like sharing my opinion on. My mind tends to wander.

 

[CoryJames]

Sorry I just wanted to reply to everything and make sure I didn't miss anything.

 

[Beat Mango]

Well I am Irish, (also italian), and I will be playing rugby next year at college so go figure. Also, I don't understand why everyone here feels the need to discredit my INTPness...Tiger Woods is INTP, why can't I be? Not that I would ever think to compare myself to Tiger Woods, but he is also sporty and most people wouldn't consider him a loner or anything.

Also, to clarify, I am not really social. It all feels very fake, I have said that before.

It doesn't look fake, your whole face is lit up. Where's Adymus?

Btw, I did reply about the suckiness of INTPness but my heartfelt post got lost in the masses. It's there somewhere amongst the throng.

 

[CoryJames]

It doesn't look fake, your whole face is lit up.

It's called a camera flash

 

[Kokoro]

It's called a camera flash

Haha, good one.

As for your situation, I don't have any answers, just a word of advice. First, we both have a very similar backstory (minus the girlfriend in my case). I simply encourage you to continue to be open, and with a positive outlook, try to continue to grow and find answers to your questions ('continue' because you seem to be already). I say this because I took a deferent path and regret it to the extent that I can regret. That path was to withdraw, to severe my relationships with and distance myself from my friends (both real and superficial, due to not being able to discern at the time). I'm trying to change that now, but what's done is done. So, anyway, take that as you will.

Do I ever wish that I weren't an INTP? No, I would love to experience what using other combinations of the cognitive functions is like from time to time, but I don't wish to change in that way permanently, simply grow. Like poker, it's all about how you play the cards you're dealt, eh?

 

[Chimera]

Frankly, I'm enjoying how CJ's physical appearance is clearly affecting some of the replies here. The arrogance might have something to do with it as well, but really...apparently people here see a pretty face and it gets them bristling. I wish I understood why there's such a defensive ring to the replies of this thread. ^__^​

As to the original question...hell, I don't even know if I'm intp. I'm told I'm not, then I'm told I am. I do like how I am though; I don't see any reason to change myself, because I'm trying to grow as a person already. I wouldn't have it any other way. ​

 

[CoryJames]

The only reason my physical appearance even came into play is because Words suggested I change my avatar to something "more human", so I made it into me (can't get much more human that) and then someone subtly accused me of it not being actually me...

 

[warryer]

Yea Chimera, it is interesting isn't it? More of the judging the book by its cover business. I wouldn't be surprised if this turned out to be a Blob experiment. Perhaps its because when people see that face, they see all that has rejected (envy?) and tormented (retribution?) them. I will admit I felt a twinge.

Anyhow, I'm not quite sure what the point of this thread is? Do I wish I was somebody else? Sure I can wish and imagine what it would be like to be a superhero, a bank robber, or a homeless bum. If I really wanted to be those things I would. I am exactly who I need to be. The hard part comes in actually believing that and being comfortable with it.

At the end of the day it's you who must decide whats good and whats bad, fuck all these labels that will never fit perfectly anyways. Sadly, society thrives on stereotypes and labels.

And because of this I feel sorry for you OP. When people look at you they see a pretty face and quickly create preconceptions about you that you must live up to. You can easily see this happening here. Not everybody does this but, a good number will.

I run a thought experiment similar to whats going on in this thread. How would people perceive me if I was filthy rich? How would I be sure that these people weren't around me for my money? The best way seems to be to disguise it and make the outward appearance reflect what you are inside or, at the very least not let it be a blinding light that blots the important stuff out. ie. dont drive bentley's, wear ratty clothes - all stuff that hints at being a "regular" person.

Something like that Eddie Murphy movie where he is a prince in some country but, comes to the US to find a bride that wouldn't judge him based on his title.

Anyhow, OP I hope you find what you are looking for.

 

[CoryJames]

I hope so also.

 

[Anthile]

I can't take this thread seriously. Everytime I read the thread title I hear Bruce Springsteen singing 'Life as an INTP' (instead of, you know, Born in the USA) in my head.

 

[CoryJames]

Well I had never even looked at it that way, now that is all thats inside my head

 

[Beat Mango]

It's called a camera flash

Don't make jokes at my expense. Got it?

 

[CoryJames]

Don't make jokes at my expense. Got it?

or else?

(ok I swear I am done now)

 

[Cavallier]

In my opinion ninth grade is a real turning point. I can pretty safely say that the general gist of my self and my life has remained the same since 9th grade.

Really? I look back at the 9th grade and realize I was still a child. I can't say that I'm a completely different person but I don't really have the habits that I had back then. I have improved the way I look at the world. I have become more open emotionally. Wiser.

I don't mean to be argumentative I've just had a very different experience.

My experience is - pretty people come and go, but one weirdo friend can last a lifetime. And weirdos don't usually seek out the company of Captain Perfect.

Yes. I always seek out the weird ones because, generally, their responses are genuine and not canned. A lot of people worry about how others will view them. Even in this forum I was astonished at how many people worried they would be perceived as "crazy" when they talk to themselves. The weird ones either don't care about or aren't aware of their weirdness. I cherish them for it.

@CJ: Do I regret being INTP? Not even remotely. Though there were a number of years during which I agonized over the fact that other people seemed to care about me more than I cared about them. I felt a complete lack of connection to the people who called me friend. I dealt with a lot of guilt over this. I at times felt that there had never really been a single person (other than my parents) about whom I really cared. Once I was in college I developed a report with two people whom I've come to really value over the last few years. I can go to them if I want a real discussion of any sort. They helped me deal with my these feelings of disconnection. They helped me realize I'm not a horrible person. It's taken me 20 years to find them and they are indispensable to me.

I've had a lot of the fluffier sort of friend. I guess I'm not the "stereotypical" INTP in that I've been outgoing and made a lot of acquaintances in my life. But in the long run I can take them or leave them. It's nice to have the crutch at times in that you always have a crowd of people you can disappear into. I find that if I surround myself with people I'm not required to respond as much.

Now, are you going to get involved in some of the other threads or are you going to sit on this one all day?

 

[CoryJames]

Hey hey hey now. I am involved in three or four others.

 

[s0nystyle]

Wow...you seem to have a really well developed Fe, assuming you are an INTP. Not many INTPs are willing to expose their life outside the forum along with pictures and yet you have done so just a day after you joined. I applaud you.

As for your situation, the only solution to that is to wait. Wait until you are in college, wait until you are in a job, just wait until you find someone to connect with. Hey, I've been waiting for a long time myself, and there hasn't yet been anyone that I could connect with.

I suggest you join the forums and use it as an out-let to satisfy your intellect. A sure hella other people are here to satisfy their intellect.

Of course, your eighteen and that's about four years older then me, so I doubt I should be giving any advice.

ok completely off topic but: *CONFIRMED* AISHITARIA IS JAILBAIT! k, im done

 

[ashitaria]

ok completely off topic but: *CONFIRMED* AISHITARIA IS JAILBAIT! k, im done

Jailbait? I'm going to search that term up.


@Cavalier: I really agree with you, but you see, it wasn't until ninth grade (note that I only became ninth grade like six months ago) that I started making lots and lots of friends, and by that time, being popular really wasn't as nice as it was. That was why I agreed with the other guy. But both of you hit it spot on on some of the elements of my school-life.

EDIT: I AM NOT A JAIL-BAIT, I"M NOT EVEN A FUCKING GIRL!

 

[ProxyAmenRa]

Wow, that is some scrutiny you have been put through. It is quite perplexing.

I think regardless of personalty type everyone has a desire to be surrounded by people they can interact with. Everyone has a desire to be a part of a group or culture that suits them. Wishing that you are not an arbitrary personality type such as 'INTP' would be wishing you have never existed. If you are not you, you don't exist. The real question that you are proposing is if people were different so that a better interaction could be promoted. However, they are the way they are.

If you dislike yourself that makes interacting with others a problem.

 

[CoryJames]

Wow, that is some scrutiny you have been put through. It is quite perplexing.

I think regardless of personalty type everyone has a desire to be surrounded by people they can interact with. Everyone has a desire to be a part of a group or culture that suits them. Wishing that you are not an arbitrary personality type such as 'INTP' would be wishing you have never existed. If you are not you, you don't exist. The real question that you are proposing is if people were different so that a better interaction could be promoted. However, they are the way they are.

If you dislike yourself that makes interacting with others a problem.

I do not dislike myself per se, nor do I not want to be INTP, I just wish I could be better at certain things.

 

[tashi]

Really? I look back at the 9th grade and realize I was still a child. I can't say that I'm a completely different person but I don't really have the habits that I had back then. I have improved the way I look at the world. I have become more open emotionally. Wiser.

I don't mean to be argumentative I've just had a very different experience.

I most certainly hope that things improve from here on out. While ninth grade is admitedly better then the rest of my school experiences.....it still sucks. Both positions seem to make sense to me, (though my input is most likely worth very little, considering that I am still in 9th grade). The transition from 8th grade to 9th grade was by far the most drastic. Most of my fellow students (and myself included) are begining to become more comfortable with ourselves, and develop more individual personalities.

 

[CoryJames]

The transition from 8th grade to 9th grade was by far the most drastic. Most of my fellow students (and myself included) are begining to become more comfortable with ourselves, and develop more individual personalities.

I understand this. Children, especially children just going through puberty which is as much of a change of mind as body, are very insecure and thus can be very mean. They are going through change and do not understand themself, and don't like this, so when they see someone else they don't understand (perhaps an INTP, eh?) they will ridicule this as a defense mechanism, trying to hide their own insecurity.


By ninth grade, most of us are well into puberty and finally growing comfortable with ourselves. Unfortunately, there are plenty among our "peers" (that was my snide, condescending voice), who do not mature, and perhaps never will. In these cases, I urge my fellow INTPs to take courage and utilize your considerable rhetoric, logic and ability to stay cool and emotion free in an argument and stand up to these buffoons should they try to outcast or make fun of you. Use these skills to twist whatever they say back on them and make them feel as stupid and helpless as they really are. Trust me, I have gone through 5 years of boarding school and dealt with plenty of goons on my teams who feel the need to compensate for their tiny intellects by making fun of kids who are thinkers and trying to outcast them. Tying their pathetic insults and arguments into knots is extremely fun, and if you embarrass them publicly they won't try again.

 

[IssphitiKOzS]

Hate that I've gotten here so late in the convo. tl;dr.

A friend of mine asked me the same question back when we both discovered MBTI. I told him "Fuck no, I actually think everyone should be like me." Then we got into this whole thing and realized if everyone was one type, eventually it would -by relativity- breed the other types.

Short answer, Sometimes I wish I could experience life as a different type, but only if I could come back to INTP to see how green the grass really was.

 

[Fukyo]

ok completely off topic but: *CONFIRMED* AISHITARIA IS JAILBAIT! k, im done

Yes! A new token loli.

Now you have the ShotaCat seal of approval.

 

[intuitivet]

Wow...you seem to have a really well developed Fe, assuming you are an INTP. Not many INTPs are willing to expose their life outside the forum along with pictures and yet you have done so just a day after you joined. I applaud you.

As for your situation, the only solution to that is to wait. Wait until you are in college, wait until you are in a job, just wait until you find someone to connect with. Hey, I've been waiting for a long time myself, and there hasn't yet been anyone that I could connect with.

I suggest you join the forums and use it as an out-let to satisfy your intellect. A sure hella other people are here to satisfy their intellect.

Of course, your eighteen and that's about four years older then me, so I doubt I should be giving any advice.

Aw youngen!!
Don't worry, as a wise old man once told me, "Things get better as you get older, more and more to see and do and experience." (He's a wise person).

 

[CoryJames]

Aw youngen!!
Don't worry, as a wise old man once told me, "Things get better as you get older, more and more to see and do and experience." (He's a wise person).

I felt as though I was a happier little lad when I was young and everything was new and I didn't understand as much as I do now.