INTPf Mafia #3: Do you even rift?

[Fukyo]

@Fukyo
So you haven't been coached, you got linked a wiki? That doesn't seem up to scratch for me.

He answered some questions about game mechanics. What exactly are you contesting here?

 

[redbaron]

10 Minutes until End of Day!

Remember: Voting is COMPULSORY!
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[Sinny91]

I'm willing to support lurker lynch, be it Sete or Shape. I'd prefer that over Fukyo lynch.

Well at least there is finally some consensus.. But only less than 10 minutes left.

Speak up and cast your votes.

Helvete, I agree.. But I've only got ten minutes to work with here.

 

[Ex-User (9086)]

@Blar what makes you so confident Fukky's green that you'd default to LynchAllLurker policy voting on day two?

You're both emotionally invested into attacking one another. This makes your cases equally misleading to a bystander, especially how a majority of your argument against Gopher is your private lead too.

What should we be doing day two? I think lurkers are bad enough.

I suspect Sinny all the time.

 

[Hadoblado]

What would your stance on blar be had his wagon taken off?

I don't know about goph soft claiming doctor esp with him genuinely having to replace out, this just doesn't really add up. Fukkies defence was pretty hostile though.

What's wrong with logfish?

I would have posted my ruse regardless of Blar's lynch status. It would have been especially important for me to do so if his lynch took off. That was the goal, to save him from mislynch and confirm him town by having so much pressure on him he couldn't possibly claim VT as scum.

My thoughts on logfish are intuition. He hasn't posted much so there's not much to go on, but compared to QT, who I got a good feel off, he's done nothing and muddied the waters hard. He's constantly wifoming and going on about his wifom meta. My defaulting to attacking him is basically that I feel really fucking bad about an experienced player seeing the situation town's been in and still offering so very little. I don't have a case on him, and I don't pretend to, but lynching him is better than lynching most other people. But the people who are better lynches? I'm trying to lynch them.

 

[Helvete]

How many votes are where?

Mine is on PMJ and I'm willing to switch to either sete or spacelog. hado you need to answer now why not lynch pmj.

I think any suspicions on fukyo can wait till tomorrow, because, I don't think there's a lot of weight behind this right now. I would be better for a full day to see how things are, rather than accusing the standoffish nature in the last half hour of voting (it was about that when it started no?)

 

[Ex-User (9086)]

Let's try Shapelog then.
Vote Shapelog

 

[Hadoblado]

I'm not emotionally invested in Fukky's lynch. I think I've demonstrated especially to you Blarraun that my casing people is tempered by a detached reasoning even if emotions are present. Because every feel I had screamed for you to die and yet I didn't vote you even though I'd set myself up to. I have demonstrated remarkable restraint as town, so you believing me to be compromised emotionally if you believe me town makes no sense. Still with the nonsense from you?

Spoiler

I need to dump in case I die. I don't want to die.

@doctor
I'm pretty sure you exist at this point. If I land a lynch on Fukky and she's red I need your protection 100%. It's worth giving Scum freedom to NK anyone else, because if Fukky is red, there's only one scum left. I will be proven tracker, since if I was the last scum I could be CCed for 100% town victory. Furthermore, my power kind of gets upgraded to cop level, since all I need to do is find a role-user before LoL and the counterclaim game will guarantee town victory. So I will be both confirmed town, and a very powerful role. Keeping me alive if Fukky flips red is of absolute importance.

If she isn't lynched, or she doesn't flip red, I still want to survive, but I'm not so much that I would sacrifice the use of your power to guarantee my survival. In that scenario, use your own judgement.

 

[Sinny91]

Let's try Shapelog then.
Vote Shapelog

Oh really

 

[Helvete]

Vote Shapelog

 

[Hadoblado]

RB says he's having difficulty posting (as am I). He's pushed EoD back 15 minutes to compensate

 

[Sinny91]

Vote Shapelog

Cannot cope with these tech difficulties.

 

[Helvete]

my internet is lagging so hard. I'm trying to find a compromise here as I think blar also is

 

[redbaron]

Vote Count

Fukyo (3) - Hadoblado, Sinny, Blarraun
Sinny (3) - Spacedog, Gopher, Pmj
Pmj (1) - Fukyo

Day Ends at 11:15 AEST. Please stop posting at that time and STOP refreshing the page for a few minutes. Our constant refreshing is slowing down the forum. I'll read over the thread and then tally up the votes post-day, they'll go up at 11:25 AEST.

Don't bother checking thread before then. Thanks.
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[Ex-User (9086)]

I'm not emotionally invested in Fukky's lynch. I think I've demonstrated especially to you Blarraun that my casing people is tempered by a detached reasoning even if emotions are present. Because every feel I had screamed for you to die and yet I didn't vote you even though I'd set myself up to. I have demonstrated remarkable restraint as town, so you believing me to be compromised emotionally if you believe me town makes no sense. Still with the nonsense from you?

I think you're emotional on the surface at least. Beneath it you're playing various games and you feel very uncertain. You don't convince me to go with your decision, it's your private intuition or test.

 

[Hadoblado]

Gawd I have no idea why Fukky isn't suss to you guys. I'm not opposing the lynch on spacedog, I just have no idea why Fukky isn't juicier. Is my reputation so bad that merely the act of casing someone guarantees their survival? Oh well, I'm not unhappy with this lynch I spose, and activity has been aflurry.

Vote Spacedawg

 

[Ex-User (9086)]

Actually your calling Fukyo bitch was too harsh and thoughtless on your part. I think it was your emotional reaction since you would've thought twice before being all honest all of the sudden.

 

[Ex-User (9086)]

I want to give Fukyo a playing chance, scum or not, she will have one day to prove something. Maybe it's not playing for town win, but it's me trying to make the game more lively and enjoyable for everyone who is active.

 

[redbaron]

DAY HAS ENDED. DO NOT POST.

TALLYING VOTES NOW. PLEASE BE PATIENT AND DO NOT REFRESH THE THREAD INCESSANTLY - IT WILL ONLY SLOW THIS DOWN
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[Sinny91]

Gawd I have no idea why Fukky isn't suss to you guys. I'm not opposing the lynch on spacedog, I just have no idea why Fukky isn't juicier. Is my reputation so bad that merely the act of casing someone guarantees their survival? Oh well, I'm not unhappy with this lynch I spose, and activity has been aflurry.

Vote Spacedawg

The Fukyo character is an issue for me.. But right now I'm saving my own bacon, to go with the eggs I intend to cook up after this lynch.

 

[redbaron]

Vote Count
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Shapelog (4) - Hadoblado, Helvete, Sinny, Blarraun, <<- Lynch!
Sinny (2) - Shapelog, Fukyo
Blarraun (1) - Pmj
Helvete (1) - Seteleechete

Shapelog was lynched, he was Town Doctor!

Night ends in ~23 hours, 30 minutes.
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[redbaron]

Countdown to Day 3​

 

[redbaron]

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As the sun rises the next morning, the students realise something is terribly wrong! Somebody went missing during the night!

Hadolado was killed during the night, he was TOWN TRACKER
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Day 3 begins!

Post away!
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[redbaron]

Note: today is Mislynch and Lose for the Town. If you wish to, you may vote for a No Lynch. This will take the game to a state of Lynch or Lose on Day 4.

You may do this by voting as follows: Vote No Lynch

No Lynch counts as a person and the No Lynch votes will be tallied as normal at the end of the day. This is optional, it can or can not be done at your own choosing.

 

[Sinny91]

Okay. Well I helped fuck that one up. Firstly, please note, that if I could have seen the bloody vote count, I would switched my vote to make it a NO LYNCH.

As it was, the forum kept freezing, I could barely do anything, and I knew I had to keep the votes OFF myself, and onto whatever last minute wagon was wagoning.

I'm really annoyed at Blarraun for switching to Spacelog at the last minute. I was happy lynching Fukyo.

I actually had a Blue Role read on Spacelog, and the only reason I cast a vote on him was because I thought he was the bullet proof, and not any more important than myself in the game as a Town team member... also taking into account the above.

Hado was obviously scumming himself up to avoid NK. Was not successful.

Blarrs voting record concerns me.. But it's not an awful lot to go, taking into account everybody else's.

At the beginning of this game Gopher and QT were my top suspects...

As it stands, they still are:

Vote Helvete

FoS Fukyo

PMJ will be asleep. It's 03.32 here.

I'll make cases tomorrow if need be. In the mean time, I urge you all to reflect on these two.

 

[Fukyo]

Well shit, we really fucked ourselves over with this one. I really didn't expect a blue role lynch, but the end of last day was really chaotic. People refreshing this thread caused the whole forum to slow down.



Not sure why people voted Shapelog, when there are scummier people out there (eg. Sinny) Just take a look at her incessant hopping from one band wagon to another, and look at how she edited into her post that she thought Shapelog was a blue role, but she still opted to save herself.


So she is either scum trying to save herself or a vanilla townie that sacrificed a more useful role, which doesn't make sense. It's anti town to vote a blue role to save yourself. My scum read on Sinny just keeps getting stronger, even more so now that I see her ill logic in voting for Shapelog.



On another note, the absentees are starting to give me the creeps. Sete, Pmj, Helvete all warrant some inspection.




I'll be going to sleep soon, and won't be around until evening (for the Europeans) most likely.

 

[Ex-User (9086)]

Well fuck, that's the worst mislynch that could have happened. I'm not really surprised tho, voting in this game tends to be random.

It's game over if we don't take any action and I'm going to make a meta intuitive assumption:
PMJ and Helvete, both town, both too inactive to assume they were scum, also trusted by Hado (RIP).

Sete, Fukyo and Sinny, I'm going to rely on my previous conclusion that Sinny's game has been very imitative and unproductive.

Vote Sinny

Let's get this over with, I'm not a fan of game 3, I'm thankful to Hado and Yellow for their activity and kind of dissatisfied with lurks and how they ruined any chances for a more balanced flow of information.

I'll be busy in the following 18-48 hours so I'm not sure if I'll be back before the final lynch.

Also, don't do the no-lynch people, it's a waste of time, I'd rather finish this one and get another game going, unless you have a compelling argument for why it should be otherwise and possibly you are a sadist scum.

 

[Helvete]

Sinny you had 3 votes on you at one point as far as I recall due to you flip flopping everywhere and your inability to actually post any content. A lot happened in the last two pages and all you could focus on was trying to not get yourself lynched, when clearly the attention wasn't actually all on you. Blar took his vote off you to form a lynch on someone we were all happy with. If you actually tried contributing more maybe you wouldn't have to spend the whole time being so shit scared and try and actually scum hunt rather than just saving your own bacon.
For a no lynch to occur all you had to do was not switch your vote but you did anyway so that's bull shit. Anyway why would you prefer a no lynch? You waste a whole town day and garner no information, you fail to prove your townliness to town and you give the mafia a free NK.... That is completely detrimental play to towns win. I currently only read you as extremely detrimental town or scum.

Now you're going to fall back on old scum reads? So after all that has happened you have no new information? I'm sorry but I'm not really buying your story.

Build your case but I would warn you that going off old information and not trying new lines of questioning, especially when it is Mylo and the fact that the two players you suspect are both replacements is very sketchy play.

FOS Sinny.

 

[Helvete]

Guys I'll be around for a couple more hours if you wish to question me before work and then I may check back after. I would urge you all to be as active as possible and not to hold anything back, as today if we fuck up again like yesterday then we literally cannot afford to make any more mistakes.

@Fukyo town do not know who the other town are or who the blue roles are so this argument makes no sense.

@town and esp the lurkers from yesterday sete/pmj: Get your asses in here now!

 

[Helvete]

well at the moment it's 4vs2 so a myslynch then NK leads to a loss so we need absolute certainty on who we lynch today. A no lynch will drag out the game and bring us to lynch or lose. So I agree that we do in fact have to lynch, but not before everyone is active and participating. Basically if anyone lurks right now they are not playing to towns win condition and are ruining the game.
It's paramount that we have the activity needed so we can actually make accurate reads.

Blar you cannot clear people so easily like that right now, it looks scummy as hell. If you need to leave for an extended period then you need to prod people now and be prodded.

If you think sinny is scum who is her most likely partner?

 

[Fukyo]

@Helvete

Here, read her post

I actually had a Blue Role read on Spacelog, and the only reason I cast a vote on him was because I thought he was the bullet proof, and not any more important than myself in the game as a Town team member... also taking into account the above.

She thought he was a blue role, but she still voted on him to save her ass. Even if he was bulletproof he was still more valuable to the town than a vanilla townie. This is blatantly anti town.

 

[Fukyo]

Helvete, a bit odd to see you so eager, given you've been absent all previous day....

 

[Helvete]

Jeez I somehow I managed to miss that? Sinny's leaning a heavy scum read for me right now and I'll leave a vote unless she can prove otherwise

@fu I got replaced in at around 3am or something ridiculous, made a couple of posts as I caught up then slept. I don't think it's that odd.

Vote Sinny

 

[Sinny91]

Well shit, we really fucked ourselves over with this one.

I really didn't expect a blue role lynch, but the end of last day was really chaotic. People refreshing this thread caused the whole forum to slow down.

Not sure why people voted Shapelog, when there are scummier people out there (eg. Sinny) Just take a look at her incessant hopping from one band wagon to another, and look at how she edited into her post that she thought Shapelog was a blue role, but she still opted to save herself.

That's not what I edited in (my mistake RB), so why are you lying?

So she is either scum trying to save herself or a vanilla townie that sacrificed a more useful role, which doesn't make sense. It's anti town to vote a blue role to save yourself.

Well I only thought he was the Bullet Proof, whereas I could have been wrong, but I KNOW im town. As far as I'm concerned I saved the confirmed Townie from POV.
It's really not that hard to grasp.

My scum read on Sinny just keeps getting stronger, even more so now that I see her ill logic in voting for Shapelog.

You sound like scum to me.

On another note, the absentees are starting to give me the creeps. Sete, Pmj, Helvete all warrant some inspection.

I just told you PMJ would be asleep.
Yeesh, your scum game sucks.

 

[Helvete]

Why are you editing when it's against the rules and you're clearly aware of that? What did you edit?

 

[Sinny91]

Sinny you had 3 votes on you at one point as far as I recall due to you flip flopping

I have been no more 'flp' fucking 'floppy' than any body else in this game.

everywhere and your inability to actually post any content.

You get what your given.

A lot happened in the last two pages and all you could focus on was trying to not get yourself lynched

THATS THE FUCKING IDEA YOU MORON . NO TO GET LYNCHED. I ANSWERED PEOPLES QUESTIONS, AND CAST MY VOTES. I DONE EVERYTHING I HAD TO AS A TOWNS PERSON. PAY ATTENTION BECAUSE I WILL NOT BE REPEATING MYSELF.

when clearly the attention wasn't actually all on you.

Obviously, the attention was there, considering I was directly responding to peoples questions. Again, moron.

Blar took his vote off you to form a lynch on someone we were all happy with.

Who's 'All'???

Blar Voted Fuckyo first, which I was happy with, then he switched to Spacelog, which I WASNT HAPPY WITH.

If you actually tried contributing more maybe you wouldn't have to spend the whole time being so shit scared and try and actually scum hunt rather than just saving your own bacon.

Shit scared of what exactly? And I am scum hunting.. What do you want a fucking picture diagram?

For a no lynch to occur all you had to do was not switch your vote but you did anyway so that's bull shit.

I didn't know what the vote count was. I had to many things open at once and frozen to do the counting, I just about managed to see Blar move his, so I paniced and moved mine.

I'm pissed at RB for not being hot on the vote counts, and I'm pissed that every lynch looks like its gunna crash the forum. I'm pissed with your holier than thou attitude, when I haven't seen you contribute huge amounts to this game either. Suck my fucking dick.

Anyway why would you prefer a no lynch? You waste a whole town day and garner no information,

This is scummy af.. What makes you think we wouldn't garner new information?and derp, it would have saved the doc. derp.

you fail to prove your townliness to town and you give the mafia a free NK....
That is completely detrimental play to towns win. I currently only read you as extremely detrimental town or scum.

Why am I detrimental to Town?

Now you're going to fall back on old scum reads?

No, you two are making them very new, very fucking NEW indeed.
You are both scummy as fuck.

So after all that has happened you have no new information? I'm sorry but I'm not really buying your story.

Did I say that I had no new information?

Build your case but I would warn you that going off old information and not trying new lines of questioning, especially when it is Mylo and the fact that the two players you suspect are both replacements is very sketchy play.

FOS Sinny.

Whatevs.

 

[Sinny91]

Why are you editing when it's against the rules and you're clearly aware of that? What did you edit?

Some grammar, and single spell check.

I momentarily forgot the rules, is the answer.

 

[redbaron]

On Vote Counts: the forum lag made it take about 2-3 minutes to load each page - and multiple pages were timing out as I was trying to do the count.

So it took me about 15 minutes just to compile the votes, during which time at least 4 people changed votes as well. Then after hitting the 'Submit' button it was taking another 2+ minutes to actually put the post in. So I couldn't actually keep the vote up to date, despite doing it as fast as I could with the pages loading.

That's why I just let the day end and waited for people to stop refreshing the forum 27 times a second and posted it later.

 

[Sinny91]

On Vote Counts: the forum lag made it take about 2-3 minutes to load each page - and multiple pages were timing out as I was trying to do the count.

So it took me about 15 minutes just to compile the votes, during which time at least 4 people changed votes as well. Then after hitting the 'Submit' button it was taking another 2+ minutes to actually put the post in. So I couldn't actually keep the vote up to date, despite doing it as fast as I could with the pages loading.

That's why I just let the day end and waited for people to stop refreshing the forum 27 times a second and posted it later.

So there. Thats why I changed my fucking vote.. I didn't know what was going on with them, and I was aiming to be be safer rather than sorry.

But in the fall out, its looks like I'm both.

 

[Helvete]

I have been no more 'flp' fucking 'floppy' than any body else in this game.

About your flip flopping, I saw people casting votes/questioning applying pressure to try and figure out who the scum are and all I really saw from you is jump onto wagons, which is what scum do. So saying everyone else was flip flopping simply isn't true.




You get what your given.



THATS THE FUCKING IDEA YOU MORON . NO TO GET LYNCHED. I ANSWERED PEOPLES QUESTIONS, AND CAST MY VOTES. I DONE EVERYTHING I HAD TO AS A TOWNS PERSON. PAY ATTENTION BECAUSE I WILL NOT BE REPEATING MYSELF.

What I was trying to convey is that at the time I don't think you were about to get lynched and you failed to see that. Instead all you could do is insist that you are town and jump on other peoples wagons.

Obviously, the attention was there, considering I was directly responding to peoples questions. Again, moron.



Who's 'All'???

All is blar, hado you and I, seeing as we all actually voted. If this wasn't the case then you shouldn't have voted and made a more active effort to scum hunt, rather than just appearing to hunt scum.

Blar Voted Fuckyo first, which I was happy with, then he switched to Spacelog, which I WASNT HAPPY WITH.

But you still switched! This here is a massive contradiction!


Shit scared of what exactly? And I am scum hunting.. What do you want a fucking picture diagram?



I didn't know what the vote count was. I had to many things open at once and frozen to do the counting, I just about managed to see Blar move his, so I paniced and moved mine.

I'm pissed at RB for not being hot on the vote counts, and I'm pissed that every lynch looks like its gunna crash the forum. I'm pissed with your holier than thou attitude, when I haven't seen you contribute huge amounts to this game either. Suck my fucking dick.



This is scummy af.. What makes you think we wouldn't garner new information?and derp, it would have saved the doc. derp.

No, had there been are more active effort, like with more people contributing (here I'm blaming all the inactives) then we wouldn't have had to lynch a lurker. It's a highly unfortunate lynch but doc should have made a much better effort in making sure he wouldn't end up lynched. In this game voting and lynching generates a lot of information whereas lurking and generating no lynches only hides information, gives mafia free NK's and a very easy win. This is incredibly scummy and I can't believe you're actually arguing this?


Why am I detrimental to Town?

See above


No, you two are making them very new, very fucking NEW indeed.
You are both scummy as fuck.

Why exactly?



Did I say that I had no new information?

No but you heavily implied you were just relying on old information. So spill it if you actually have a case.



Whatevs.

@all I'll be back in a few hours as I have to go to work soon.

 

[PmjPmj]

I have some catching up to do here, what with player-swaps et al.

Regardless, I think I'm starting to get a clear picture - but I'll need to do some research and pondering. To that end, be patient. I'll be on it sporadically throughout the next 48.

 

[redbaron]

Update: I'm putting in a player list here because I know with replacements it's a bit confusing to keep track of who is who and who's died. I've also updated the OP in this thread to be accurate.

Player list
1. Pmj, Alive
2. Gopher Fukyo, Alive
3. Yellow Vanilla Town, Lynched Day 1
4. HadoBlado Town Tracker, Killed Night 2
5. Seteleechete, Alive
6. Sinny, Alive
7. Spacedog Town Doctor, Lynched Day 2
8. QuickTwist Helvete, Alive
9. Blarraun, Alive

 

[redbaron]

Vote Count

Sinny (2) - Helvete, Blarraun
Helvete (1) - Sinny

Not voting - Pmj, Fukyo, Sete

Day ends in ~1 Day, 17 hours

Countdown Timer

 

[PmjPmj]

Cheers RB, that helps.

 

[Sinny91]

Well fuck, that's the worst mislynch that could have happened. I'm not really surprised tho, voting in this game tends to be random.

How do you figure that? RB explicitly states the game will continue if we take NO action.

and I'm going to make a meta intuitive assumption:

'Meta Intuitive', is that a re existing concept, or one you just made up?
Is that your way of saying 'gut feeling' random guess' ?

PMJ and Helvete, both town, both too inactive to assume they were scum, also trusted by Hado (RIP).

Very poor reasoning.

Sete, Fukyo and Sinny, I'm going to rely on my previous conclusion that Sinny's game has been very imitative and unproductive.

Speaking of 'imitative', Yellow thought you were 'mirroring' her once already, as did I at one point too. In fact, you seem to pick on points tat some of us touch upon, and then expand on them in the most logical manner you can, presenting them as your own case. Don't think I haven't noticed.

Vote Sinny

Let's get this over with

What fucking sort of attitude do you call this?

I'm not a fan of game 3

Why? and why is this relevant to town?

I'm thankful to Hado and Yellow for their activity and kind of dissatisfied with lurks and how they ruined any chances for a more balanced flow of information.

I'll be busy in the following 18-48 hours so I'm not sure if I'll be back before the final lynch.

Also, don't do the no-lynch people, it's a waste of time, I'd rather finish this one and get another game going, unless you have a compelling argument for why it should be otherwise and possibly you are a sadist scum.

????????

So you are asking us to basically throw the game because you can't be arsed?

Wow, and I thought I might have been the worst player here. How wrong I was.

Fukyo
Helvete & Blar are my top 3 scum reads.. I've been back and forth on Blar this whole time.

I really think Fukyo is scum, so I'm trying to pin the other suspect out of Helvete or Blar.

If you other Townies have a strong case on any one - bar me, I will listen, obviously.

If we mislynch we loose. I am Town, do not lynch me. This needs to be a mafia lynch or no lynch. No ifs no buts.

 

[Sinny91]

Note: Helvete and Blarraun are both requesting that we deliberately cut this game short.

 

[Sinny91]

About your flip flopping, I saw people casting votes/questioning applying pressure to try and figure out who the scum are and all I really saw from you is jump onto wagons, which is what scum do. So saying everyone else was flip flopping simply isn't true.

Really now, day one I started the Yellow wagon, I didn't jump on it. I put a huge pressure vote on Blarraun, in fact a number of my votes have been pressure votes.. so please do tell me more about these wagons I jumped on.. ?

What I was trying to convey is that at the time I don't think you were about to get lynched and you failed to see that. Instead all you could do is insist that you are town and jump on other peoples wagons.

I still don't see your point.. People asked me questions, and I answered their questions. What am I supposed to do ignore them? I wasn't scum hunting enough? Apparently nobody has been scum hunting enough, just look at the mess town is in. I'll tell you why I have been scum hunting enough; because I've been making assertions and running with them, and no doubt by the end of this game it will be revealed that I was wrong a thousand time's over, just like I was with Yellow, but the point is, we all agree she posted dodgy shit, and from a Town perspective I was well within my rights to chase down potential bullshit. Admittedly, it's really hard pin pointing scum bullshit from regular bullshit - but I'll have a go none the less. As it happens, I think I should be the strongest Town read by this stage, even Hado said so.. if you trust Hado's judgment so fucking much, why aren't you leaning green on me? You three have been dodgy as fuck since start of Day 3, and so I'm saying right now, I know two of you are mafia. Hows that for fucking scum hunting?

All is blar, hado you and I, seeing as we all actually voted. If this wasn't the case then you shouldn't have voted and made a more active effort to scum hunt, rather than just appearing to hunt scum

Your premise is false.

But you still switched! This here is a massive contradiction

How is switching my vote a contradiction to the fact I wasn't happy switching my vote??? You're logic fucking sucks.

No, had there been are more active effort, like with more people contributing (here I'm blaming all the inactives)

Who are the inactive;s?

then we wouldn't have had to lynch a lurker.

We didn't have to lynch a lurker in the first place, why do you say this?

It's a highly unfortunate lynch but doc should have made a much better effort in making sure he wouldn't end up lynched.

I agree. I think he deliberately left a post indicating that he was Bulletproof, to cover his tracks, but that wasn't enough apparently.

In this game voting and lynching generates a lot of information

I know, that's why I've been doing it.

whereas lurking and generating no lynches only hides information,

No shit Sherlock.

gives mafia free NK's and a very easy win.

But weren't you and Blarraun just calling for an easy mafia win, by asking us to hurry to the end?

This is incredibly scummy and I can't believe you're actually arguing this?

@all I'll be back in a few hours as I have to go to work soon.[/QUOTE]

Same to you. 

 

[Sinny91]

Correction to post 545.

Well fuck, that's the worst mislynch that could have happened. I'm not really surprised tho, voting in this game tends to be random.

How do you figure that? RB explicitly states the game will continue if we take NO action. (Buys us another day)

It's game over if we don't take any action and I'm going to make a meta intuitive assumption:

'Meta Intuitive', is that a re existing concept, or one you just made up?
Is that your way of saying 'gut feeling' random guess' ?

PMJ and Helvete, both town, both too inactive to assume they were scum, also trusted by Hado (RIP)

Very poor reasoning.

Sete, Fukyo and Sinny, I'm going to rely on my previous conclusion that Sinny's game has been very imitative and unproductive.

Speaking of 'imitative', Yellow thought you were 'mirroring' her once already, as did I at one point too. In fact, you seem to pick on points tat some of us touch upon, and then expand on them in the most logical manner you can, presenting them as your own case. Don't think I haven't noticed.

Vote Sinny

Let's get this over with, I'm not a fan of game 3, I'm thankful to Hado and Yellow for their activity and kind of dissatisfied with lurks and how they ruined any chances for a more balanced flow of information.

I'll be busy in the following 18-48 hours so I'm not sure if I'll be back before the final lynch.

Also, don't do the no-lynch people, it's a waste of time, I'd rather finish this one and get another game going, unless you have a compelling argument for why it should be otherwise and possibly you are a sadist scum.

What fucking sort of attitude do you call this?

I'm not a fan of game 3

Why? and why is this relevant to town?

I'm thankful to Hado and Yellow for their activity and kind of dissatisfied with lurks and how they ruined any chances for a more balanced flow of information.

I'll be busy in the following 18-48 hours so I'm not sure if I'll be back before the final lynch.

Also, don't do the no-lynch people, it's a waste of time, I'd rather finish this one and get another game going, unless you have a compelling argument for why it should be otherwise and possibly you are a sadist scum.

????????

So you are asking us to basically throw the game because you can't be arsed?

Wow, and I thought I might have been the worst player here. How wrong I was.

Fukyo
Helvete & Blar are my top 3 scum reads.. I've been back and forth on Blar this whole time.

I really think Fukyo is scum, so I'm trying to pin the other suspect out of Helvete or Blar.

If you other Townies have a strong case on any one - bar me, I will listen, obviously.

If we mislynch we loose. I am Town, do not lynch me. This needs to be a mafia lynch or no lynch. No ifs no buts.

 

[Sinny91]

Ugh, still fucked up some formatting. fuck this no editing shit. Should have a process where we can edit for format and have them checked up on.

Merge the first two quotes of B's in my above post.
and the bit should say *pre existing concept.

 

[Seteleechete]

Okay. Well I helped fuck that one up. Firstly, please note, that if I could have seen the bloody vote count, I would switched my vote to make it a NO LYNCH.

As it was, the forum kept freezing, I could barely do anything, and I knew I had to keep the votes OFF myself, and onto whatever last minute wagon was wagoning.

I'm really annoyed at Blarraun for switching to Spacelog at the last minute. I was happy lynching Fukyo.

I actually had a Blue Role read on Spacelog, and the only reason I cast a vote on him was because I thought he was the bullet proof, and not any more important than myself in the game as a Town team member... also taking into account the above.

Hado was obviously scumming himself up to avoid NK. Was not successful.

Blarrs voting record concerns me.. But it's not an awful lot to go, taking into account everybody else's.

At the beginning of this game Gopher and QT were my top suspects...

As it stands, they still are:

Vote Helvete

FoS Fukyo

PMJ will be asleep. It's 03.32 here.

I'll make cases tomorrow if need be. In the mean time, I urge you all to reflect on these two.

Also, on day one no one got lynched so either the bullet proof had been spent or there was a doctor. This doesn't make much sense.

I am looking through the thread trying to find teaming/attitudes towards each other. These are the reads I got by simply skimming the pages so far a few times.

Blar-Fukyu is a no go.
Blar-Sinny is a no go
Blar-helvete is possible
Blar-PMj is a no go

Fukyu-Sinny is a no go
Fukyu-Blar is a no go
Fukyu-Helvete is possible
Fukyu-PMJ is possible

Sinny-helvete is a no go
Sinny-blar is a no go
Sinny-PMJ is possible
Sinny-Fukyu is a no go

PMJ-helvete is possible
PMJ-fukyu is possible
PMJ-Sinny is possible
PMj-Blar is a no go

Now I have had a green lean on Fukyu/gopher most of the game, but that's mostly intuitive. I like Hados reasoning about QT not abandoning game, if he was scum. I have had some major green points for Blar as well. I think Sinny and PMJ seems to have acted the scummiest.

PMJ randomly puts a FOS on Sinny and when asked to defend it he ignores it completely and Foses half the game.

PMJ randomly votes for Sinny without reason and then backtracks within moments.

Directly after the first night Sinny and PMJ goes minorly against each other in this way and then proceed to ignore each other. I find this all staged and I think they are in cohort with each other.

Sinny hasn't retaliated to PMJ in response, she only did an FOS before PMJ attacked and once he attacked back she did nothing. Uncharacteristic.

and

PMJ-fakyu/Gopher basically avoided interaction. Equally, if not more indicative.

I think it's a sinny/pmj or Pmj/fakyu pairing.

Vote PMJ

Sorry for not being so active anymore.