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While reading the "INTP vs INTJ" thread I was surprised at the abundance of INTJ fathers. So just curious, who's father is an INTJ? My father is, he's the one who actually introduced me to the meyer-briggs.
he has to be right all the time and pisses me off when he tells me to be normal. it seems he has no perception of social norrms because he follows them so tightly, its all there is to him...he constanyl tells me " why cant u be normal for once and go out with your friends and party"..i get in so many arguments with him.....long post sry.. he also likes to use big words, and lately, because im getting smarter everyday, ive noticed most of his big words are garbage and he doesnt rely know what they mean.
weird..i think mines intj...maybe entj..but hes a huge ahole.. he has to be in control all the time and always thinks hes right..i remember last week there was this fan next to me and it doesnt blow air very good, but it was facing the right direction..my dad whos sitting scross the room says, can u turn that fan around so i get some air..i say the fan is facing the right way..he says no its not..so we argue about it and he gets pissed. clearly the fan is facing the right way. so i turn it around just so he stops whining like a litlle bitch. and i have this fan sittin next to me thats blowing air right into the wall..but my father is satisfied..he has to be right all the time and pisses me off when he tells me to be normal. it seems he has no perception of social norrms because he follows them so tightly, its all there is to him...he constanyl tells me " why cant u be normal for once and go out with your friends and party"..i get in so many arguments with himQUOTE]
Yeah I have a similar issue, he doesn't want me to go out and party, but he does want me to be a bit more emotional and socialize more. About the fan situation, I've had many similar to this. Even in discussions. It's getting to the point where I really just don't feel like voicing my opinions to him, or perhaps I'm getting wise enough to realize not to for the sake of peace. I'm not dissing my dad, we can have interesting discussions, and share a similar sense of humor, but I still can sometimes feel rather detached from him.
Mayhap that's the primary way INTPs get created since INTPs tend to be the worst mates, and consequently, are selected less often.Fool said:While reading the "INTP vs INTJ" thread I was surprised at the abundance of INTJ fathers.
While reading the "INTP vs INTJ" thread I was surprised at the abundance of INTJ fathers. So just curious, who's father is an INTJ? My father is, he's the one who actually introduced me to the meyer-briggs.
weird..i think mines intj...maybe entj..but hes a huge ahole.. he has to be in control all the time and always thinks hes right..i remember last week there was this fan next to me and it doesnt blow air very good, but it was facing the right direction..my dad whos sitting scross the room says, can u turn that fan around so i get some air..i say the fan is facing the right way..he says no its not..so we argue about it and he gets pissed. clearly the fan is facing the right way. so i turn it around just so he stops whining like a litlle bitch. and i have this fan sittin next to me thats blowing air right into the wall..but my father is satisfied..he has to be right all the time and pisses me off when he tells me to be normal. it seems he has no perception of social norrms because he follows them so tightly, its all there is to him...he constanyl tells me " why cant u be normal for once and go out with your friends and party"..i get in so many arguments with him.....long post sry.. he also likes to use big words, and lately, because im getting smarter everyday, ive noticed most of his big words are garbage and he doesnt rely know what they mean.
well hes pushing me to become who he wants me to be..its a control thing with him. Im this strange kid with a weird ass sense of humor whos good at anything i feel like doing, and against my own will most of the time, im in competitive sports.. my parents basically raised me telling me that i like sports.my parents want me to be a professional baseball player..ya im good at sports, but that doesnt necisarily mean i like playing them...i remember a few weeks ago my dad says to me " yup, u may be a stupid jock, but your goin to college to do what u love, playing baseball"..its like my dads living in a fantasy world..im basically the complete opposite of a stupid jock and baseball is fun but idk if its my one love in life..calling me a stupid jock really pissed me off. it was an insult...argg im gettin upset thinkin about it now.. i never get angry but theres just some things that go right to my soul....hahah soul. sounds dumb...how do u make threads.. anger is something i wana talk aboutI wouldn't have thought an xNTJ dad would care much about that? I would think they'd be more pushing you to think differently and criticize you for lack of competency or critical thinking skills, rather than for not being normal and going to social events like parties - that seems more xSFJ style criticism?
well hes pushing me to become who he wants me to be..its a control thing with him. Im this strange kid with a weird ass sense of humor whos good at anything i feel like doing, and against my own will most of the time, im in competitive sports.. my parents basically raised me telling me that i like sports.my parents want me to be a professional baseball player..ya im good at sports, but that doesnt necisarily mean i like playing them...i remember a few weeks ago my dad says to me " yup, u may be a stupid jock, but your goin to college to do what u love, playing baseball"..its like my dads living in a fantasy world..im basically the complete opposite of a stupid jock and baseball is fun but idk if its my one love in life..calling me a stupid jock really pissed me off. it was an insult...argg im gettin upset thinkin about it now.. i never get angry but theres just some things that go right to my soul....hahah soul. sounds dumb...how do u make threads.. anger is something i wana talk about
ya im 18 haha..weve talked about it. i wana go to school for psychology so far, but i also have a huge interest in film..im waiting for a camera i just ordered to come in the mail so i can become famous on youtube haha..but weve talked and i think hes accepted it. but whenever i metion something else i actually wanna do he justs laughs..then we get in a fight becaus i tell him how stupid he asks and i explain to him why he acts the way he does..thats the psychology haha, i get inside his head and he gets piissed..now hes encouraging me to become a psychologist for the FBI haha..thatd be cool, but i can still tell that both my parents are dissapointed at me because i wasnt drafted to the MLB when i turned 18.My dad is kind of like yours. He wanted my brother to play professional basketball. Wanted my sister to do math or science. Didn't want me to exist. [Oh, the irony.] Thankfully, my parents got a divorce just before I hit teen years (though, unfortunately, my sister wasn't so lucky).
How old are you? If it's almost time for you to go to college, then it's probably time to have a frank conversation with him about your life and your future. And make sure you stress that it's your life and not his. Tell him what your interests are, or if you don't know, tell him that that's why you're going. To figure yourself out. Don't worry about a blowup - family fights about college actually are normal.If it doesn't work, at least you will have said what needs to be said. Then, when you get to the gate, give dear old dad the finger.
ya im 18 haha..weve talked about it. i wana go to school for psychology so far, but i also have a huge interest in film..im waiting for a camera i just ordered to come in the mail so i can become famous on youtube haha..but weve talked and i think hes accepted it. but whenever i metion something else i actually wanna do he justs laughs..then we get in a fight becaus i tell him how stupid he asks and i explain to him why he acts the way he does..thats the psychology haha, i get inside his head and he gets piissed..now hes encouraging me to become a psychologist for the FBI haha..thatd be cool, but i can still tell that both my parents are dissapointed at me because i wasnt drafted to the MLB when i turned 18.
My dad tests as an ENTJ as well. He also comes with a very prominent inability to admit when he's wrong. He usually does know when he's wrong though; I can tell by the look on his face after he realizes it. Now that I'm an adult and don't have to deal with his being 'in charge' anymore, the only arguments he sends in my direction are vague things like: 'you don't know what you're talking about' and 'that's not what I'm saying'. I don't know if he's just given up arguing with me or if he's finally realized that he can't change my mind (that would take a well laid-out, logical argument, which he would never bother with).weird..i think mines intj...maybe entj..
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After years of studying my father, I think it’s not so much that he’s intentionally trying to push me toward who/what he wants me to be, but rather that he can’t comprehend that there’s another way. The fact that someone would actually enjoy spending time alone not being productive (and especially that the time has value) is so alien to him that it’s just not possible. Therefore, I must be depressed / I need counseling / I’m lazy / I’m impaired in some other way. It’s logical if you’re limited to the set of information that he’s using. I don’t know if that also applies to your dad, but it might be something to think about.well hes pushing me to become who he wants me to be..its a control thing with him. Im this strange kid with a weird ass sense of humor whos good at anything i feel like doing,
I didn’t have any issues with my career choices since I’m very mechanically inclined… we’re both engineers. As far as sports: I know my father was disappointed that I didn’t get into school sports. I was actually a promising soccer player as a kid, but I never had the drive to be super competitive. I had fun playing and that was enough for me.ya im 18 haha..weve talked about it. i wana go to school for psychology so far, but i also have a huge interest in film..im waiting for a camera i just ordered to come in the mail so i can become famous on youtube haha..but weve talked and i think hes accepted it. but whenever i metion something else i actually wanna do he justs laughs..then we get in a fight becaus i tell him how stupid he asks and i explain to him why he acts the way he does..thats the psychology haha, i get inside his head and he gets piissed..now hes encouraging me to become a psychologist for the FBI haha..thatd be cool, but i can still tell that both my parents are dissapointed at me because i wasnt drafted to the MLB when i turned 18.
Yes to this. My father still doesn’t understand me, but I know he always wanted us to be closer. Once I was able to detach myself from my parents more, he finally began to see me as a separate entity and was much more willing/able to accept me for what I was/am.Well, at least they're not making you do it. They'll get over the disappointment, and after a while, they'll realize that it was for the best. As for your dad, he's just insecure because you didn't choose the life he chose for you. Just ignore him. You do your thing. He'll come around, eventually. Good luck!