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While reading the "INTP vs INTJ" thread I was surprised at the abundance of INTJ fathers. So just curious, who's father is an INTJ? My father is, he's the one who actually introduced me to the meyer-briggs.
 

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My father is an INTJ though for some reason he seems ashamed of it. We talked about MBTI a bit and he was familiar to it but he avoided my question when I asked what type he is.
 

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My father is an INTJ. We get along rather well, though our interaction is pretty much limited to weekend marathons of various TV series.
 

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weird..i think mines intj...maybe entj..but hes a huge ahole.. he has to be in control all the time and always thinks hes right..i remember last week there was this fan next to me and it doesnt blow air very good, but it was facing the right direction..my dad whos sitting scross the room says, can u turn that fan around so i get some air..i say the fan is facing the right way..he says no its not..so we argue about it and he gets pissed. clearly the fan is facing the right way. so i turn it around just so he stops whining like a litlle bitch. and i have this fan sittin next to me thats blowing air right into the wall..but my father is satisfied..he has to be right all the time and pisses me off when he tells me to be normal. it seems he has no perception of social norrms because he follows them so tightly, its all there is to him...he constanyl tells me " why cant u be normal for once and go out with your friends and party"..i get in so many arguments with him.....long post sry.. he also likes to use big words, and lately, because im getting smarter everyday, ive noticed most of his big words are garbage and he doesnt rely know what they mean.
 

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he has to be right all the time and pisses me off when he tells me to be normal. it seems he has no perception of social norrms because he follows them so tightly, its all there is to him...he constanyl tells me " why cant u be normal for once and go out with your friends and party"..i get in so many arguments with him.....long post sry.. he also likes to use big words, and lately, because im getting smarter everyday, ive noticed most of his big words are garbage and he doesnt rely know what they mean.

I wouldn't have thought an xNTJ dad would care much about that? I would think they'd be more pushing you to think differently and criticize you for lack of competency or critical thinking skills, rather than for not being normal and going to social events like parties - that seems more xSFJ style criticism?
 

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weird..i think mines intj...maybe entj..but hes a huge ahole.. he has to be in control all the time and always thinks hes right..i remember last week there was this fan next to me and it doesnt blow air very good, but it was facing the right direction..my dad whos sitting scross the room says, can u turn that fan around so i get some air..i say the fan is facing the right way..he says no its not..so we argue about it and he gets pissed. clearly the fan is facing the right way. so i turn it around just so he stops whining like a litlle bitch. and i have this fan sittin next to me thats blowing air right into the wall..but my father is satisfied..he has to be right all the time and pisses me off when he tells me to be normal. it seems he has no perception of social norrms because he follows them so tightly, its all there is to him...he constanyl tells me " why cant u be normal for once and go out with your friends and party"..i get in so many arguments with himQUOTE]

Yeah I have a similar issue, he doesn't want me to go out and party, but he does want me to be a bit more emotional and socialize more. About the fan situation, I've had many similar to this. Even in discussions. It's getting to the point where I really just don't feel like voicing my opinions to him, or perhaps I'm getting wise enough to realize not to for the sake of peace. I'm not dissing my dad, we can have interesting discussions, and share a similar sense of humor, but I still can sometimes feel rather detached from him.
 

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While reading the "INTP vs INTJ" thread I was surprised at the abundance of INTJ fathers. So just curious, who's father is an INTJ? My father is, he's the one who actually introduced me to the meyer-briggs.

Ye and strangely neatly fitted the word "Mastermind"(Keirsey). He had a history of masterminding many political organizations. However, he was a totalitarian. Power rested purely on him, and everyone else were drones so transfer of power was difficult when he passed away.
 

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weird..i think mines intj...maybe entj..but hes a huge ahole.. he has to be in control all the time and always thinks hes right..i remember last week there was this fan next to me and it doesnt blow air very good, but it was facing the right direction..my dad whos sitting scross the room says, can u turn that fan around so i get some air..i say the fan is facing the right way..he says no its not..so we argue about it and he gets pissed. clearly the fan is facing the right way. so i turn it around just so he stops whining like a litlle bitch. and i have this fan sittin next to me thats blowing air right into the wall..but my father is satisfied..he has to be right all the time and pisses me off when he tells me to be normal. it seems he has no perception of social norrms because he follows them so tightly, its all there is to him...he constanyl tells me " why cant u be normal for once and go out with your friends and party"..i get in so many arguments with him.....long post sry.. he also likes to use big words, and lately, because im getting smarter everyday, ive noticed most of his big words are garbage and he doesnt rely know what they mean.

My dad and I get into arguments quite often. I would think that he would be irrational somewhat, but I really have no clue... It must be the alcohol that's rotting his mind, though. Okay, sometimes he is nice and I guess he just wants to talk to me... then again, I think I'm the one that actually starts the arguments. :phear:
 

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I wouldn't have thought an xNTJ dad would care much about that? I would think they'd be more pushing you to think differently and criticize you for lack of competency or critical thinking skills, rather than for not being normal and going to social events like parties - that seems more xSFJ style criticism?
well hes pushing me to become who he wants me to be..its a control thing with him. Im this strange kid with a weird ass sense of humor whos good at anything i feel like doing, and against my own will most of the time, im in competitive sports.. my parents basically raised me telling me that i like sports.my parents want me to be a professional baseball player..ya im good at sports, but that doesnt necisarily mean i like playing them...i remember a few weeks ago my dad says to me " yup, u may be a stupid jock, but your goin to college to do what u love, playing baseball"..its like my dads living in a fantasy world..im basically the complete opposite of a stupid jock and baseball is fun but idk if its my one love in life..calling me a stupid jock really pissed me off. it was an insult...argg im gettin upset thinkin about it now.. i never get angry but theres just some things that go right to my soul....hahah soul. sounds dumb...how do u make threads.. anger is something i wana talk about
 

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well hes pushing me to become who he wants me to be..its a control thing with him. Im this strange kid with a weird ass sense of humor whos good at anything i feel like doing, and against my own will most of the time, im in competitive sports.. my parents basically raised me telling me that i like sports.my parents want me to be a professional baseball player..ya im good at sports, but that doesnt necisarily mean i like playing them...i remember a few weeks ago my dad says to me " yup, u may be a stupid jock, but your goin to college to do what u love, playing baseball"..its like my dads living in a fantasy world..im basically the complete opposite of a stupid jock and baseball is fun but idk if its my one love in life..calling me a stupid jock really pissed me off. it was an insult...argg im gettin upset thinkin about it now.. i never get angry but theres just some things that go right to my soul....hahah soul. sounds dumb...how do u make threads.. anger is something i wana talk about

My dad is kind of like yours. He wanted my brother to play professional basketball. Wanted my sister to do math or science. Didn't want me to exist. [Oh, the irony.] Thankfully, my parents got a divorce just before I hit teen years (though, unfortunately, my sister wasn't so lucky).

How old are you? If it's almost time for you to go to college, then it's probably time to have a frank conversation with him about your life and your future. And make sure you stress that it's your life and not his. Tell him what your interests are, or if you don't know, tell him that that's why you're going. To figure yourself out. Don't worry about a blowup - family fights about college actually are normal. ;) If it doesn't work, at least you will have said what needs to be said. Then, when you get to the gate, give dear old dad the finger.
 

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My dad is ENTJ to the best of my knowledge...very much a patriarch in the family setting, everything must be done correctly the first time, and so on and so forth. All too practical, though I get along with him quite nicely when he's not telling me what to do...
 

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another intj father to report - the frequency of which in the intp clan is rather curious (nature vs. nurture?). my father is very stern when someone barges into a room, posing as an authority, but is really the most incompetent s.o.b. there. however, if that person has the same aggressive tendencies and a world of knowledge and experience on a topic, my father becomes ingratiatingly friendly. thats another facet in a person he highly values: experience, what differentiates the intp from the intj. if theres an artisan or employee who can speak well, especially extemporaneously well, on a subject, s/he has my full attention. contrastingly, my father would see this as only half of the equation and ask for an empirical demonstration of that knowledge, a segue into a show.

not to deify him too much, but i really respect his intelligence. mine is almost exclusively theoretical, but his has an earthy, worldwise, hands on dimension in addition to book smarts. the best word to characterize this is factotum. he feels equally at home in home depot as staples, borders, or a college campus. i dont know whos smarter per se, but he definitely owns me in terms of implementing ideas and finding creative ways to interact effectively with reality - whereas i just stay in my room all day. the downside to this tendency of his is that he is increasingly smitten with the world of money making; he might be bona fide workaholic, but w/ regard to aholics, a workaholic is a fine malady to have.

that was the pros, this is the cons - the latter arent too bad though. because of his fondness for interacting and reacting to the "real world" he doesnt deign to read fiction that often, nor does he branch out and try novel activities, lest they interfere with his work schedule. sometimes he confuses wisdom for stubbornness. also, and speaking to the subbornness, he has had some great friendships destroyed over the years because of his - and their - proudness and unwillingness to admit error. for example, he hasnt spoken to his brother or best friend in about five years because of a business related work altercation. word to the wise: dont mix business and ones personal life, even if the circumstances scream for such an agreement. some friendships are too beautiful to waste on green paper.

conclusion, for the few still reading, in my perception he is the apotheosis and self-actualized rarity of an intj - clever, congenial, both thick skinned and sensitive simulataneously, a lover of irony, indomitable, and caring. what is this fathers day, before i get too gooey ill sign off.
 

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My dad is kind of like yours. He wanted my brother to play professional basketball. Wanted my sister to do math or science. Didn't want me to exist. [Oh, the irony.] Thankfully, my parents got a divorce just before I hit teen years (though, unfortunately, my sister wasn't so lucky).

How old are you? If it's almost time for you to go to college, then it's probably time to have a frank conversation with him about your life and your future. And make sure you stress that it's your life and not his. Tell him what your interests are, or if you don't know, tell him that that's why you're going. To figure yourself out. Don't worry about a blowup - family fights about college actually are normal. ;) If it doesn't work, at least you will have said what needs to be said. Then, when you get to the gate, give dear old dad the finger.
ya im 18 haha..weve talked about it. i wana go to school for psychology so far, but i also have a huge interest in film..im waiting for a camera i just ordered to come in the mail so i can become famous on youtube haha..but weve talked and i think hes accepted it. but whenever i metion something else i actually wanna do he justs laughs..then we get in a fight becaus i tell him how stupid he asks and i explain to him why he acts the way he does..thats the psychology haha, i get inside his head and he gets piissed..now hes encouraging me to become a psychologist for the FBI haha..thatd be cool, but i can still tell that both my parents are dissapointed at me because i wasnt drafted to the MLB when i turned 18.
 

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My dad's INTJ, which in my case is a very good thing. I think whether or not having an INTJ father is a good thing depends entirely on what parenting style their mind has determined is absolutely the best. If it's a controlling style, that's not so good. My dad, however, has a very "it's your life" approach to parenting. If I were to get a failing grade in a class, I doubt I'd get more than a stern talking to

The one time his INTJ stubbornness really shows through (in a bad way) is when he has a set belief on something and I directly contradict him, particularly when I turn out to be right (which happens more often than he'd like, especially where computers are concerned).

Overall, though, I'd say that it's very nice having an INTJ father.

P.S. I should note that I'm either INTJ or INTP, the tests and I haven't made up our minds yet.
 

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ya im 18 haha..weve talked about it. i wana go to school for psychology so far, but i also have a huge interest in film..im waiting for a camera i just ordered to come in the mail so i can become famous on youtube haha..but weve talked and i think hes accepted it. but whenever i metion something else i actually wanna do he justs laughs..then we get in a fight becaus i tell him how stupid he asks and i explain to him why he acts the way he does..thats the psychology haha, i get inside his head and he gets piissed..now hes encouraging me to become a psychologist for the FBI haha..thatd be cool, but i can still tell that both my parents are dissapointed at me because i wasnt drafted to the MLB when i turned 18.

Well, at least they're not making you do it. They'll get over the disappointment, and after a while, they'll realize that it was for the best. As for your dad, he's just insecure because you didn't choose the life he chose for you. Just ignore him. You do your thing. He'll come around, eventually. Good luck!
 

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My dad tests as an ENTJ as well. He also comes with a very prominent inability to admit when he's wrong. He usually does know when he's wrong though; I can tell by the look on his face after he realizes it. Now that I'm an adult and don't have to deal with his being 'in charge' anymore, the only arguments he sends in my direction are vague things like: 'you don't know what you're talking about' and 'that's not what I'm saying'. I don't know if he's just given up arguing with me or if he's finally realized that he can't change my mind (that would take a well laid-out, logical argument, which he would never bother with).

well hes pushing me to become who he wants me to be..its a control thing with him. Im this strange kid with a weird ass sense of humor whos good at anything i feel like doing,
After years of studying my father, I think it’s not so much that he’s intentionally trying to push me toward who/what he wants me to be, but rather that he can’t comprehend that there’s another way. The fact that someone would actually enjoy spending time alone not being productive (and especially that the time has value) is so alien to him that it’s just not possible. Therefore, I must be depressed / I need counseling / I’m lazy / I’m impaired in some other way. It’s logical if you’re limited to the set of information that he’s using. I don’t know if that also applies to your dad, but it might be something to think about.

ya im 18 haha..weve talked about it. i wana go to school for psychology so far, but i also have a huge interest in film..im waiting for a camera i just ordered to come in the mail so i can become famous on youtube haha..but weve talked and i think hes accepted it. but whenever i metion something else i actually wanna do he justs laughs..then we get in a fight becaus i tell him how stupid he asks and i explain to him why he acts the way he does..thats the psychology haha, i get inside his head and he gets piissed..now hes encouraging me to become a psychologist for the FBI haha..thatd be cool, but i can still tell that both my parents are dissapointed at me because i wasnt drafted to the MLB when i turned 18.
I didn’t have any issues with my career choices since I’m very mechanically inclined… we’re both engineers. As far as sports: I know my father was disappointed that I didn’t get into school sports. I was actually a promising soccer player as a kid, but I never had the drive to be super competitive. I had fun playing and that was enough for me.

Well, at least they're not making you do it. They'll get over the disappointment, and after a while, they'll realize that it was for the best. As for your dad, he's just insecure because you didn't choose the life he chose for you. Just ignore him. You do your thing. He'll come around, eventually. Good luck!
Yes to this. My father still doesn’t understand me, but I know he always wanted us to be closer. Once I was able to detach myself from my parents more, he finally began to see me as a separate entity and was much more willing/able to accept me for what I was/am.
 

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I didn’t have any issues with my career choices since I’m very mechanically inclined… we’re both engineers. As far as sports: I know my father was disappointed that I didn’t get into school sports. I was actually a promising soccer player as a kid, but I never had the drive to be super competitive. I had fun playing and that was enough for me.

Exactly..im good a t sports. i played soccer basketball and baseball in HS, but im just not competitve..and i hate being on teams. and my parents are mad at me becasue im not excited for playing baseball in college..im thinking "awesome, running, assholes, and exhaustion."..cool
 

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These descriptions don't sound like INTJs, imo. They can seem arrogant, but they are actually some of the most respectful and valuing of individuals.

Sounds like some sort of FJ types gone wrong. :( Sorry for you guys tho. Stinks having a dad who acts like an overbearing psycho. My dad is an INFJ, but he is kind of messed up, and he was a real psycho sometimes growing up.
 

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yes, and he is an idiot.

he believe grades and studying hard is everything, perhaps its a generation gap.
 

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mine is an ISTJ who recently had a brief period of poser jung-nerdship. he read some commercial sugar-coated secondary jungian literature and claimed "jung is very interesting and overlooked, I am an INTUITIVE person" at dinners and such. probably he realized it was kinda weird and stupid. i don't know which intuitive type he falsely believed himself to be. i just ignored everything he ever said about typology, didn't want to reinforce his misconceptions. maybe he was trying to make a father-son connection all along and my failure to respond or appreciate it whatsoever was what actually led him to give up that area of interest.
 

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My dad was an INTJ. I miss him quite a lot. He was easily the most intelligent person I will probably ever meet. I don't think intelligence was necessarily something either of us valued all that highly, but I miss that contstant exchange of interesting new information. I would go to work and know that I would bump into him at the local bookstore afterwards. I don't argue points as much with my S-mother, but we also have much less in common. She likes that someone else has an idea and runs with it. But there isn't that free exchange of ideas that can happen with other intuitives.

I think he would have benefitted a lot from knowing that he was an INTJ and that it was okay to be different, an introvert and an intellectual. Like someone else mentioned in this thread, I also think he was ashamed of his personality. *shakes tiny fist at society's beatdowns on anyone outside the average and expected* He might have sensed that society was not made for people like him (or me, for that matter).
 

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Mine is INTJ as well. He does a lot of woodworking.

I have an INFJ Mother, too.
 

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I have an INTJ partner, and the only time we aren't getting along so well is when he acts like he thinks he's my parent.

My father-father is an ENTJ who insists that he's actually an INTJ. I didn't particularly like him much when he acted like he thought he was my parent either.
 
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