"hipsters."

[shoeless]

after seeing a post recently saying something along the lines of EWWWW WHAT A HIPSTER, i felt compelled to make this thread.

i fucking hate the term "hipster". it's so vague and stupid.

i can't tell you how many times i've been called a hipster. it doesn't even make sense. what makes me hipstery? the way i dress? my hair? the music i listen to (oh no not neutral milk hotel!)? the fact that i actually like dinosaurs? what the fuck is it?

it's stupid. that's what it is.

and i hate the superiority that accompanies people who spit on "hipsters". so ANNOYING. christ.

but anyway, rant over. please tell me what a hipster is. thanks in advance.

 

[WeAreTheStrange]

just another label... and current fad.

 

[Beat Mango]

Yeah people will always use these bullshit labels to get people they feel uncomfortable with to feel on the outer. It's all will-to-power bullshit, it makes them feel good about themselves, like with that label "emo" which I similarly despised, or one that we are all perhaps familiar with as INTPs, "nerd".

I try to be more aggressive when people insult me these days, and it seems to work: if someone called me any label to my face you shouldn't be surprised to hear me tell them to shove their label up their ass. Of course the problem is, these people rarely tell you to your face and instead start it behind your back or whatnot to bring you down.

And ftr I don't know what a hipster is, but tbh I'm not terribly concerned about it, although that might change if I was called one.

 

[Kuu]

I liked this article that I read recently

http://www.popmatters.com/pm/post/the-death-of-the-hipster-panel/

 

[Jah]

Tool - Hooker With a Penis.

I think that song pretty much sums up the whole deal with labels and those who deal in them.


YouTube- Hooker with a Penis - Tool Video

 

[Cavallier]

I figure that since its hipsterism we are discussing Urban dictionary would be the best source of a common definition:

Spoiler

hipster:

Hipsters are a subculture of men and women typically in their 20's and 30's that value independent thinking, counter-culture, progressive politics, an appreciation of art and indie-rock, creativity, intelligence, and witty banter. The greatest concentrations of hipsters can be found living in the Williamsburg, Wicker Park, and Mission District neighborhoods of major cosmopolitan centers such as New York, Chicago, and San Francisco respectively. Although "hipsterism" is really a state of mind,it is also often intertwined with distinct fashion sensibilities. Hipsters reject the culturally-ignorant attitudes of mainstream consumers, and are often be seen wearing vintage and thrift store inspired fashions, tight-fitting jeans, old-school sneakers, and sometimes thick rimmed glasses. Both hipster men and women sport similar androgynous hair styles that include combinations of messy shag cuts and asymmetric side-swept bangs. Such styles are often associated with the work of creative stylists at urban salons, and are usually too "edgy" for the culturally-sheltered mainstream consumer. The "effortless cool" urban bohemian look of a hipster is exemplified in Urban Outfitters and American Apparel ads which cater towards the hipster demographic. Despite misconceptions based on their aesthetic tastes, hipsters tend to be well educated and often have liberal arts degrees, or degrees in maths and sciences, which also require certain creative analytical thinking abilities. Consequently many hipsters tend to have jobs in the music, art, and fashion industries. It is a myth that most hipsters are unemployed and live off of their parent's trust funds.

Now here is the more derogatory definition:

Spoiler

Hipster:

Listens to bands that you have never heard of. Has hairstyle that can only be described as "complicated." (Most likely achieved by a minimum of one week not washing it.) Probably tattooed. Maybe gay. Definitely cooler than you. Reads Black Book, Nylon, and the Styles section of the New York Times. Drinks Pabst Blue Ribbon. Often. Complains. Always denies being a hipster. Hates the word. Probably living off parents money - and spends a great deal of it to look like they don't have any. Has friends and/or self cut hair. Dyes it frequently (black, white-blonde, etc. and until scalp bleeds). Has a closet full of clothing but usually wears same three things OVER AND OVER (most likely very tight black pants, scarf, and ironic tee-shirt). Chips off nail polish artfully after $50 manicure. Sleeps with everyone and talks about it at great volume in crowded coffee shops. Addicted to coffee, cigarettes (Parliaments, Kamel Reds, Lucky Strikes, etc.), and possibly cocaine. Claims to be in a band. Rehearsals consist of choosing outfits for next show and drinking PBR. Always on the list. Majors or majored in art, writing, or queer studies. Name-drops. May go by "Penny Lane," "Eleanor Rigby," etc. when drunk. On PBR. Which is usually.

Often I think people use the term "Hipster" derogatorily in order to indicate perceived snobbery in their object of loathing. I suspect that the current hipsters are yesteryear's yuppies. As others have noted it's all crap of course.

 

[Double-Think]

Tool - Hooker With a Penis.

I think that song pretty much sums up the whole deal with labels and those who deal in them.


YouTube- Hooker with a Penis - Tool Video

Jah, So officially you are one of the coolest people i've met! Tool= WIN.

Edit- As for the term hipster, i'm confused about it's meaning, i assume it's like a refined version of a hippie? without the drugs? or the liberalism?. Either way, we shouldn't take such labels seriously, just another name stupid people call what they don't understand and perceive as different, sadly those people are too stupid to get out of their own little bubble... *sigh* I guess that's what inbreeding does to the world...

 

[s0nystyle]

whatever, people are entitled to their own opinion, and if you dont like it? well tell them to "FUCK OFF!" (or in a more polite manner if the situation demands it). People will always be drink'n hatorade with their wheaties in the morning, so it' just something you just have to get used to

 

[Double-Think]

I figure that since its hipsterism we are discussing Urban dictionary would be the best source of a common definition:

Spoiler

hipster:

Hipsters are a subculture of men and women typically in their 20's and 30's that value independent thinking, counter-culture, progressive politics, an appreciation of art and indie-rock, creativity, intelligence, and witty banter. The greatest concentrations of hipsters can be found living in the Williamsburg, Wicker Park, and Mission District neighborhoods of major cosmopolitan centers such as New York, Chicago, and San Francisco respectively. Although "hipsterism" is really a state of mind,it is also often intertwined with distinct fashion sensibilities. Hipsters reject the culturally-ignorant attitudes of mainstream consumers, and are often be seen wearing vintage and thrift store inspired fashions, tight-fitting jeans, old-school sneakers, and sometimes thick rimmed glasses. Both hipster men and women sport similar androgynous hair styles that include combinations of messy shag cuts and asymmetric side-swept bangs. Such styles are often associated with the work of creative stylists at urban salons, and are usually too "edgy" for the culturally-sheltered mainstream consumer. The "effortless cool" urban bohemian look of a hipster is exemplified in Urban Outfitters and American Apparel ads which cater towards the hipster demographic. Despite misconceptions based on their aesthetic tastes, hipsters tend to be well educated and often have liberal arts degrees, or degrees in maths and sciences, which also require certain creative analytical thinking abilities. Consequently many hipsters tend to have jobs in the music, art, and fashion industries. It is a myth that most hipsters are unemployed and live off of their parent's trust funds.

I was fairly impressed with this depiction until the point in bold, While reading that, the thought came to me, so this "effortless cool" that they supposedly have is exemplified by capitalist corporations who hire children as wage slaves to make fabrics which in turn are sent to various stores in the country.... well jeez hipsters, that's REAL progressive ... seems extremely inauthentic to me.

 

[warryer]

Shoeless, I hate you for being such an individual. I don't have the courage to be one myself so, I am going to invent meanings and insults to call you so that I can feel better about myself. Because after all you're so weird for doing what you think is the right thing.

Don't you even care what people think about you? I know I do. I let it consume my being. I always have to think 'how will other people see me?' if i do this or that. But of course I will never tell anybody that.

Just look at those clothes you wear.... its so weird. You probably do it just to get attention anyways. Because that's the only way my hive-mind can make sense of why you would want to do something like that.

---

Ok seriously now. I wouldn't get caught up in a term like that. You lose if you do.

What do you need to prove to these people? Nothing. You know what you are about and so will those who are important. Kill your ego, nothing good comes out of it.

 

[IssphitiKOzS]

Yes, it might be hard to define it on paper, but we can all pick out a hipster when we see one. I only hope shoeless didn't post this via mobile from his iPhone

 

[s0nystyle]

Yes, it might be hard to define it on paper, but we can all pick out a hipster when we see one. I only hope shoeless didn't post this via mobile from his iPhone

shoeless is a woman :X and i dont think she has a iPhone either >.>

 

[IssphitiKOzS]

Her*, sorry, it does say Wizard under the profile.
Just being ironic with the iphone comment.

 

[420MuNkEy]

shoeless is a woman :X and i dont think she has a iPhone either >.>

BLASPHEMER! This is the internet, we are all guys here

As for the topic...
Given either definition from Urban Dictionary, it just sounds like another label used to form high school cliques (like prep, jock, goth, etc).

 

[cheese]

The main problem, to people who use the 'hipster' label as a derogatory term, is bandwagon-hopping. Being counter-culture, using your brain, looking weird etc was original and genuine back in the day when no one liked it. Then rebellion and obscurity became the new 'in'-thing, with the result that what originally constituted 'hipster' became a lifestyle. People slapped on the superficial characteristics of the originals (weird fashion, counter-culturalism, etc) in order to imply what was actually of value (independent thinking, dismissal of social norms, etc). Basic pretension, really. The copy-cat epidemic helped cement these superficial characteristics, such that what you see on the street today (in fashion, conversation, word choice, political views, etc) are often not so much indicators of the individual as tribe tattoos.

This is what pisses people off: that others would feign individuality by subscribing to a social set that expresses its individuality in a uniform way - and then worse still, flaunt this mockery of self-expression with misplaced arrogance and superiority.

It's not at all your problem that your way of life happens to coincide with the copy-cats though. You're whoever you are, and the negative connotations only exist in the labeler's mind. If you're pretentious, they're valid. If you're not, fuck 'em.

 

[Words]

Wow, to me it's just natural human societal tendency; acceptance is only what I can return. Granted, the individual level is different, despite so, there is no ultimate key in eradicating the human ability to simplify, categorize with added derogation. Inter alia, people can do it without much thought; a learned reaction.

 

[Melkor]

Shoeless darling, could you please-plese pretty please capitalize your 'I's from now on?

You never ever do, and I can't possibly read anything you've written for all those horrible baby 'i's you have lurking in your posts.

That is all, thanks a bunch sweetheart.

 

[420MuNkEy]

Shoeless darling, could you please-plese pretty please capitalize your 'I's from now on?

You never ever do, and I can't possibly read anything you've written for all those horrible baby 'i's you have lurking in your posts.

That is all, thanks a bunch sweetheart.

I second this motion.

 

[Cavallier]

I hate to jump on the bandwagon but could you also capitalize the first letter in your sentences to? It drives me crazy that your grammar is almost perfect. Of course you could just ignore us and continue with your progressive hipster grammar.

 

[Marbas]

I liked this article that I read recently

http://www.popmatters.com/pm/post/the-death-of-the-hipster-panel/

This comment made me happy:

Nice tries confusing everyone. Sorry, but - as some of you even seem to start realizing - all this babble makes clear you ARE these hipsters everyone is so pissed about. And no, not every contemporary attitude towards cultural forms, not every contemporary sense of music & asthetics is hipsterism. That’s just a way from you to sneak out of responsibility for cultivating an abstract form of cultural consumerism that is detached from any form of respect, understanding, devotion and love for the forms of culture relevant for your own identity. Trying to talk people in slagging off relevant art - just for promoting your own “hipness” - is nothing more than a power game; it doesn’t serve a cultural purpose. It CAN be avoided. Hipsterism isn’t necessary for cultural changes and attention to new things. Learning about the new can always be accomplished without destroying the reputation of the already known, which would be a typical, AVIODABLE hipster strategy. True Self-Criticism is the way out of all this emptiness.

 

[y4r5xeym5]

Pretty much this.

And how are you hipster? You are cool...

 

[Moocow]

Don't waste a minute of thought on this kind of garbage.

 

[Marbas]

Don't waste a minute of thought on this kind of garbage.

But...but...pointless hatred is so fun!

Actually my irritation at the Hipster archetype came from my experiences at noise shows.

They wouldn't shut up about Fuck Buttons and Lightning Bolt.

ARGHARGHARGH.

 

[WeAreTheStrange]

the Haiti one had be in tears!

 

[Agent Intellect]

This is a hipster:

Spoiler

 

[shoeless]

sorry, man. i don't care enough to capitalize.

anyway, i don't particularly care. i've never much been one for labels/stereotypes/etc., but this one is only bothersome because it makes no fucking sense to me. alas. interesting thoughts, though.

i'd write more but i'm exhausted from opening night of the musical. so i think i'll probably just sleep. soon-ish. after i eat nachos.

 

[Chimera]

"You're a _______."
"I care what you think...why?"​

50% of highschool drama solved. Yay apathy.​

Shoeless darling, could you please-plese pretty please capitalize your 'I's from now on?

This is one of the only places I actually capitalize my "I"s. It takes effort to keep them lowercase in other places, but it's a statement...I don't do it here because I know it would grate on the grammar nazis' nerves. ​

Let Shoe type as she pleases, Jelly-Melly. It's perfectly legible, just lazy. And everyone here can relate with being lazy. P:​

 

[Cavallier]

It's perfectly legible, just lazy. And everyone here can relate with being lazy. P:

Says the person who formats her posts with more effort than anybody on INTPf.

Of course she can keep it up if it makes her happy but I find that when somebody leaves their i's lower case it doesn't denote laziness so much as lack of self esteem. That's what it means in handwriting analysis. It also shows a lack of interest in the topic being discussed if the person doesn't even care enough about what they are saying to use simple capitalization. Thus, I don't really take the posts of somebody who doesn't capitalize as seriously as I might somebody else. Besides, I find it harder to not type in capitals since I have to do it with most things I type. I type here much much less than I do essays and the like where proper grammar is required. My fingers just do it without my brain getting in the way. If i tried to type without capitals I really have to stop and focus on it. I have to press the space button to separate my words it's not really hard to press the space button a couple more times to capitalize my letters. Lastly, in my oddly long argument for using capitals , the period which is used to denote the ending of a sentence is easier to miss and has less impact when it is not followed by a capital letter. It all becomes a long jumbled sentence with little spots all over it.

Eh, maybe I'm just old. To each their own.

 

[y4r5xeym5]

wat duz it sy if i tulk lik dis

*trollface*

 

[Devercia]

YouTube- HIpster's New Clothes

 

[flow]

Just embrace your hipsterness, man. And yes, I realize you're a woman.

 

[shoeless]

Says the person who formats her posts with more effort than anybody on INTPf.

Of course she can keep it up if it makes her happy but I find that when somebody leaves their i's lower case it doesn't denote laziness so much as lack of self esteem. That's what it means in handwriting analysis. It also shows a lack of interest in the topic being discussed if the person doesn't even care enough about what they are saying to use simple capitalization. Thus, I don't really take the posts of somebody who doesn't capitalize as seriously as I might somebody else. Besides, I find it harder to not type in capitals since I have to do it with most things I type. I type here much much less than I do essays and the like where proper grammar is required. My fingers just do it without my brain getting in the way. If i tried to type without capitals I really have to stop and focus on it. I have to press the space button to separate my words it's not really hard to press the space button a couple more times to capitalize my letters. Lastly, in my oddly long argument for using capitals , the period which is used to denote the ending of a sentence is easier to miss and has less impact when it is not followed by a capital letter. It all becomes a long jumbled sentence with little spots all over it.

Eh, maybe I'm just old. To each their own.

wooooooooow.
yeah, that's reading waaaaaaaaaay too much into it. but you know, whatever floats yer boat i guess.

 

[Anthile]

http://www.cracked.com/funny-4573-hipster/

 

[Cavallier]

wooooooooow.
yeah, that's reading waaaaaaaaaay too much into it. but you know, whatever floats yer boat i guess.

Over-analysis FTW! It's my INTP way.

 

[IssphitiKOzS]

Bet the caps are unleashed when shoeless gets angry.

 

[DrSLudge]

People who ride fix push bicycles are also called hipsters...

fixed gear bikes and fixed push skateboards can never coast.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2885aR6o6s

 

[snafupants]

Definitely diggin the pics from agent intellect and flow; those really encapsulates hipster angst and sense of superiority. Well done sir!

 

[snafupants]

I mean, well done sirs! Assuming you are both male and wont beat me up for saying that.

 

[Jedi]

Shoeless darling, could you please-plese pretty please capitalize your 'I's from now on?

You never ever do, and I can't possibly read anything you've written for all those horrible baby 'i's you have lurking in your posts.

That is all, thanks a bunch sweetheart.

At least she is consistent, some capitalize every-other 'I' (though technically every-other would also be consistent, but you catch my drift)

Shoeless:
It depends on who is calling you a hipster and what they mean by it. There are 'hipsters' but the word gets thrown around loosely and is misused. Heres a pretty accurate article on it https://www.adbusters.org/magazine/79/hipster.html

Most hipsters do suck, but I highly doubt you are one

 

[Mello]

A comment on the article that I think is very true.

The problem with this article is the problem with hipsters is the problem with youth today. We (I am a sixteen year old kid living in Toronto Canada) are pretty much the first generation growing up in a society that is so saturated with identities it is nearly impossible for us to create one without it being labelled and marketed back. If the majority of kids my age were like me and read adbusters instead of Vice, you can bet that Blackspot sneakers would be the only thing on the shelves of Urban Outfitters and small "urban design" boutiques.​

I live in a world where anyone is capable of making 'art'. I live in a world where 'friends' of mine can post shitty digital photos that they fucked with on Adobe to facebook and are met with a hundred "OMG this is like, so pretty. I didn't know you were so artsy!"s. I live in a world where there are an uncountable number of good and bad bands playing gigs on myspace, where there is no musical glue to hold my generation together. Unlike the psych-blues-jam-rock that 'revolutionary' culture revolved around in the '60s, or the thrash garage punk that led the popular 'anarchism' of the late '70s and '80s, there is no one type of music to listen to.​

Within my generation there are so many labels that it is physically impossible to be yourself without being told you are following someone else. That is the problem with this article. Hipsters are so afraid of being called hipsters because they want to be themselves. I spend a fairly large chunk of my weekend partying time in so-called 'hipster bars' because they are the only places I can go to party where I'm not surrounded by girls who just discovered alcohol and want to pass out in their own vomit. And how many 'hipsters' have I met and spoken to that share my taste in what I consider to make me, me- literature, music, plans for the FUTURE, political ideologies... These people are just trapped by the fact that cynicism is probably the only thing that is common in my generation.​

Apathy is constant through the vast majority of young people, regardless of what cigarettes they smoke and what cheap beer they drink and what vintage clothing they throw on before heading out at night. There are probably eight people in my grade at my school who have read a newspaper in the last six months, and three of them wear skinny jeans and plaid shirts. There are a hundred more kids who wear loose pants and sweatshirts that don't even know what universal healthcare means. Just a last little note, you ridicule these people for riding one-speed bikes. Why? Is your mission as a magazine not to perpetuate a sustainable and anti capitalist society? Is bicycling to a party not what your ideal human would do? I think biking is a pretty fucking handy way to get around. So, Adbusters, what are you going to do? Accept the fact that apathy is around regardless of what clothes are on its practitioners? Or keep being cynical about a generation that is lost in the media. Those who are lost will remain so. Why not give strength to those who want to be found. Who want to embody your magazine. This has been the most rambling piece of shit I've ever written but something irked me about your article and I can't quite put my finger on it. Perhaps I will return later....​

 

[Jedi]

A comment on the article that I think is very true.

The problem with this article is the problem with hipsters is the problem with youth today. We (I am a sixteen year old kid living in Toronto Canada) are pretty much the first generation growing up in a society that is so saturated with identities it is nearly impossible for us to create one without it being labelled and marketed back. If the majority of kids my age were like me and read adbusters instead of Vice, you can bet that Blackspot sneakers would be the only thing on the shelves of Urban Outfitters and small "urban design" boutiques.​

I live in a world where anyone is capable of making 'art'. I live in a world where 'friends' of mine can post shitty digital photos that they fucked with on Adobe to facebook and are met with a hundred "OMG this is like, so pretty. I didn't know you were so artsy!"s. I live in a world where there are an uncountable number of good and bad bands playing gigs on myspace, where there is no musical glue to hold my generation together. Unlike the psych-blues-jam-rock that 'revolutionary' culture revolved around in the '60s, or the thrash garage punk that led the popular 'anarchism' of the late '70s and '80s, there is no one type of music to listen to.​

Within my generation there are so many labels that it is physically impossible to be yourself without being told you are following someone else. That is the problem with this article. Hipsters are so afraid of being called hipsters because they want to be themselves. I spend a fairly large chunk of my weekend partying time in so-called 'hipster bars' because they are the only places I can go to party where I'm not surrounded by girls who just discovered alcohol and want to pass out in their own vomit. And how many 'hipsters' have I met and spoken to that share my taste in what I consider to make me, me- literature, music, plans for the FUTURE, political ideologies... These people are just trapped by the fact that cynicism is probably the only thing that is common in my generation.​

Apathy is constant through the vast majority of young people, regardless of what cigarettes they smoke and what cheap beer they drink and what vintage clothing they throw on before heading out at night. There are probably eight people in my grade at my school who have read a newspaper in the last six months, and three of them wear skinny jeans and plaid shirts. There are a hundred more kids who wear loose pants and sweatshirts that don't even know what universal healthcare means. Just a last little note, you ridicule these people for riding one-speed bikes. Why? Is your mission as a magazine not to perpetuate a sustainable and anti capitalist society? Is bicycling to a party not what your ideal human would do? I think biking is a pretty fucking handy way to get around. So, Adbusters, what are you going to do? Accept the fact that apathy is around regardless of what clothes are on its practitioners? Or keep being cynical about a generation that is lost in the media. Those who are lost will remain so. Why not give strength to those who want to be found. Who want to embody your magazine. This has been the most rambling piece of shit I've ever written but something irked me about your article and I can't quite put my finger on it. Perhaps I will return later....​

Yeeaaaahhhhh. The article is referring to people who drive one-speed bikes, drink Pabst Blue Ribbon, and who where skin tight jeans just to be cool (much like how rich white kids started dressing like rappers). It's referring to the lack of originality that we all know and hate. You're not off in your views of todays society but you misinterpreted the article by far.

Why be cynical about a generation lost in the media? Why not?

 

[Imrinfected]

A hipster is you.

 

[Brandoon]

A hipster is you.

xD
I was thinking that, but I was kind of scared to say it because I know someone is probably going to get all grrr on me. Haha

But yeah the term hipster is just another label on a current fad. Would you not call this guy a hippie?

That's what gets me about hipsters.. They're always so angry when someone accuses them of being a hipster. It just makes it easier for trolls to do their job.

 

[faithapasta]

Noooot quite. But if he followed these 6 steps, he could be! =D

 

[nexion]

I figure that since its hipsterism we are discussing Urban dictionary would be the best source of a common definition:

Spoiler

hipster:

Hipsters are a subculture of men and women typically in their 20's and 30's that value independent thinking, counter-culture, progressive politics, an appreciation of art and indie-rock, creativity, intelligence, and witty banter. The greatest concentrations of hipsters can be found living in the Williamsburg, Wicker Park, and Mission District neighborhoods of major cosmopolitan centers such as New York, Chicago, and San Francisco respectively. Although "hipsterism" is really a state of mind,it is also often intertwined with distinct fashion sensibilities. Hipsters reject the culturally-ignorant attitudes of mainstream consumers, and are often be seen wearing vintage and thrift store inspired fashions, tight-fitting jeans, old-school sneakers, and sometimes thick rimmed glasses. Both hipster men and women sport similar androgynous hair styles that include combinations of messy shag cuts and asymmetric side-swept bangs. Such styles are often associated with the work of creative stylists at urban salons, and are usually too "edgy" for the culturally-sheltered mainstream consumer. The "effortless cool" urban bohemian look of a hipster is exemplified in Urban Outfitters and American Apparel ads which cater towards the hipster demographic. Despite misconceptions based on their aesthetic tastes, hipsters tend to be well educated and often have liberal arts degrees, or degrees in maths and sciences, which also require certain creative analytical thinking abilities. Consequently many hipsters tend to have jobs in the music, art, and fashion industries. It is a myth that most hipsters are unemployed and live off of their parent's trust funds.

Now here is the more derogatory definition:



Often I think people use the term "Hipster" derogatorily in order to indicate perceived snobbery in their object of loathing. I suspect that the current hipsters are yesteryear's yuppies. As others have noted it's all crap of course.

That's actually a somewhat accurate definition.

This is a hipster:

Spoiler

Why is "vote" in quotations?

"You're a _______."
"I care what you think...why?"​

50% of highschool drama solved. Yay apathy.​

This is one of the only places I actually capitalize my "I"s. It takes effort to keep them lowercase in other places, but it's a statement...I don't do it here because I know it would grate on the grammar nazis' nerves. ​

Let Shoe type as she pleases, Jelly-Melly. It's perfectly legible, just lazy. And everyone here can relate with being lazy. P:​

I have also considered putting my "I"s in lowercase. It is a statement of expression. Ah, I understand, but cannot explain. There are so many things greater than I...

Says the person who formats her posts with more effort than anybody on INTPf.

Of course she can keep it up if it makes her happy but I find that when somebody leaves their i's lower case it doesn't denote laziness so much as lack of self esteem. That's what it means in handwriting analysis. It also shows a lack of interest in the topic being discussed if the person doesn't even care enough about what they are saying to use simple capitalization. Thus, I don't really take the posts of somebody who doesn't capitalize as seriously as I might somebody else. Besides, I find it harder to not type in capitals since I have to do it with most things I type. I type here much much less than I do essays and the like where proper grammar is required. My fingers just do it without my brain getting in the way. If i tried to type without capitals I really have to stop and focus on it. I have to press the space button to separate my words it's not really hard to press the space button a couple more times to capitalize my letters. Lastly, in my oddly long argument for using capitals , the period which is used to denote the ending of a sentence is easier to miss and has less impact when it is not followed by a capital letter. It all becomes a long jumbled sentence with little spots all over it.

Eh, maybe I'm just old. To each their own.

Self esteem issues? Maybe. Self esteem doesn't much matter to me.

 

[Stoic Beverage]

I just scrolled to reply without reading anything other than the first post, and I apologize if I'm just saying the same thing as someone else.

I, at least, define hipster as someone who does their best to be the exact opposite of what's "popular" or "in". Is the current "thing" valley girls with light clothing? Then a hipster will get 4 foot tall black hair with streaks and wear black with protruding frills.

Now, most people have sickeningly twisted the word. Instead of being someone who tries to be the opposite of what's popular, they think of it as anyone who doesn't conform.

Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against 4 foot tall black hair with streaks and black with frills. You have to know someone to make the judgment of hipster or not.

Say you've got the hair and the frills. You're either a person who happens to like ridiculously tall black hair and frills (and always have), or you're someone who has the hair and frills specifically to be an outlier.
(former being innocent, latter being hipster)

It's a terrible thing when people who happen to like the frills are labeled "hipster" even though they've always liked it.
What's worse is when people really mess up the word, and label anyone who isn't doing the exact same thing as them "hipster".

 

[Cogwulf]

 

[Melkor]

Psh, we emo's where on this scene a LOONNGGG time ago.

Nice try you bearded geezer gits but we ain't budging.

 

[Cogwulf]

Hipsters aren't really hipsters any more.
It's just another fashion now.

It's just a poor attempt at counter culture that got hijacked by the sheeple.
Wearing clothes to make yourself look different is a bit pointless when shops like Tesco sell the same clothes by the dozen.

 

[Jesse]

Aren't hipsters the girls with odd colour hair that I imagine to be short but cute?