Guide to typing in real time.

[ckm]

Adymus, what is your reading of Crystal Castles?

I think both Maxi and SB are Fe users. Apart from Fe, I didn't really get any other particular function from her, but I would probably guess ISFJ. As for him, I think I see Ni. INFJ?

 

[Adymus]

Adymus, what is your reading of Crystal Castles?

I think both Maxi and SB are Fe users. Apart from Fe, I didn't really get any other particular function from her, but I would probably guess ISFJ. As for him, I think I see Ni. INFJ?

dude ckm, this is the second time you've echoed Indigo's answer, this better not be group think I'm seeing

As for Crystal Castles

Alice Glass: ENFP - Go back and watch her the entire time, mainly her eyes. She has that bored look that the ExxPs get when nothing interesting is happening, which is why she keeps doing all of those random funny things. Those darting eyes of her's are Ne eyes, you even see them flare up at alternate intervals whenever she her Ne riffs on something that is being said. There is actually another ENFP that I am seeing in her, Faruza Balk:

Ethan Kath: INFJ

 

[IndigoSensor]

Alice Glass: ENFP - Go back and watch her the entire time, mainly her eyes. She has that bored look that the ExxPs get when nothing interesting is happening, which is why she keeps doing all of those random funny things. Those darting eyes of her's are Ne eyes, you even see them flare up at alternate intervals whenever she her Ne riffs on something that is being said. There is actually another ENFP that I am seeing in her, Faruza Balk:

Ethan Kath: INFJ

Ok I see ENFP now that you mentioned it (the Ne over Se). The Fi is clear and the first thing I got. She is not all that extroverted IMO, but yea I can see it. Ne/Si is really hard for me to spot for some reason.

I have not been able to find a video where I can clearly see ethan.

(I still can't stand these two, lol)

 

[XXXX]

Sister Bliss - ENFP (I'm getting Ne/Si and Fi/Te - not a bouncy and bubbly ENFP, but she can't be an xSTJ...surely!)

Maxi Jazz - INTJ (I'm pretty sure Ni/Se and Fi/Te - I dunno he also seems really soulful, which Adymus has mentioned to me before being common among some INTJ celebs)

 

[ckm]

I don't know Faruza Balk, but she sure looks similar to Glass.

So Marina Diamandis, Florence Welch and Alice Glass are all ENFPs. I already associate Diamandis and Welch due to both being up-and-coming British artists and having "and the" in their stage names, but I wouldn't have compared them to Glass in a rush.

 

[Adymus]

Sister Bliss: ENFP - XXXX, I know right!? I mean come on... Si dom? Really you guys? Really? By the way XXXX wins the internet because that was a very difficult read and I'm really impressed that he got it, I actually didn't expect any of you to get her right. She had a great use of all of her functions, which is why she does not appear to be too super bouncy (Although she did have some bounce to her if you noticed) like many of the younger ENFPs.

Maxi Jazz: INFJ - I don't blame you for missing that one XXXX, he was face holding nearly the entire time, but he does have an aware mouth, and in moves in such a way that only an Fe mouth moves, but it is really tough to be able to spot the micro expressions.


Yes, we did just see two INFJ+ENFP couples in a row, and no, that is not just a coincidence. ENFPs and INFJs are Inspirational matches, in other words they are like opposites but they are each strong in what the other is weak at and they do it in an inspiring and stimulating way. Not a suppressive way like you would get with an INFJ+ESTP couple for instance.
So it is extremely common to see them together because of how they are drawn to each other.

 

[Jedi]

How about these guys? Trey Parker and Matt Stone, creators of South Park.
EDIT: Trey parker is in yellow, Matt Stone in grey

YouTube- matt and trey in amsterdam!

Spoiler

I'm sure to regret this, but I'm getting INTP from BOTH (Parker maybe INFJ). Both seem introverted with NT characteristics. Parker tends to accentuate with his eyes via Ne (or Fe), and Stone (possibly ISTP) looks down and to the right into Ti often.

 

[IndigoSensor]

I don't know who is who.

The guy in the yellow is INTP, the guy in grey is ENTP.

 

[XXXX]

I'm getting ENTP for both, but more sure on Trey than Matt.

 

[Fukyo]

Is this guy really an ENTP?

 

[Jedi]

Is this guy really an ENTP?

I'd say so. Definitely dominant Ne, which narrows it down quite a bit. And Ti fits better than Fi for auxiliary.

 

[ckm]

Ben Whishaw, who seems to have highly accentuated functions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2kxURKKWDM

Spoiler

I think it's very clear he's adaptive. I think that's Fi he's using, he bursts into smile occasionally and has some mouth twitches. I would guess that his constant fidgeting and moving around is Se. I think I see Ni and Te too. ISFP? I'm not sure that he's Fi dominant, so perhaps ESFP.

 

[XXXX]

I think he's Introverted and Fi dom (IxFP) - I'd go with INFP over ISFP, because he seems more Ne bouncy.

 

[ckm]

Having just watched some interviews with Se dominants Tila Tequila, Jack Black and Cameron Diaz (re: 16 types, 16 smiles), I retract the Se suggestion. Ne does seem more suitable. I think he could be ENFP though (as opposed to INFP), but on the other hand he seems rather withdrawn.

I find Se hard to see to be honest.

 

[Sparrow]

Is it me or do most (if not all) Si doms have that annoying, nasally whine voice˙...

Jesse James, Hayden Christensen, Joe Jonas etc. ...

 

[Siloc]

I second INFP for Whishaw, although I am not very proficient at typing yet.

 

[echoplex]

Here's a few I've been wondering about. I've realized I can't type for shit, so maybe some other (read: smarter) people can help.

Louis C.K. (was already mentioned in the comedians thread)

Spoiler

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r1CZTLk-Gk

ISTP? I dunno. Comedians are difficult to type because they're usually trying to be funny. Of course, according to the theory the functions would always be there, but perhaps not as clear as with someone being more sincere. I think he's definitely Ti-Fe.

Lebron James

Spoiler

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTeCc8jy7FI

ISTJ? He's very uncomfortable here. I'm sort of thinking he throws in a little tertiary Fi to 'sweeten' his words in order to appear less like a dick, but he fumbles quite a bit. If it turns out he's INFJ I give up typing forever.

Aubrey Plaza

Spoiler

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iM3Y-A3ka8k&feature=related

ISFP? I think she's articulating through Te and I think I saw a little Ni (but I'm shit at this). Her smiles didn't seem directed at anyone (Fi?). Meh, I only included her 'cause I think she's super cute.

Trent Reznor

Spoiler

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-8nXCgFLGo

I always thought he was INFJ, but that was me typing his music, not him. Here he seems to be articulating Te, but I still see Ni (I think) and the general discomfort of inferior Se (though you also see that with inf. Fe in interviews). So, INTJ?

Devin Townsend

Spoiler

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IB9OBYiiL8&feature=related

This one's tough. At first glance I'd say he's articulating Te, but then it could be INTP's (in)famous deadpan version of Fe, which, to me at least, sounds alot like Te. But there seems to be more Ni here than Ti/Fi, and I really doubt he's INFJ (though I typically miss those, apparently), so I'm forced to say INTJ. (though I did think I saw Ne at one point, but then I figured it wasn't 'bouncy' enough)

I find Se hard to see to be honest.

Yeah, it doesn't have that same bouncy quality that Ne is known for, and plus Ne tends to make people seem markedly 'weird', so it's usually easier to detect unless they're trying to hide it to appear less weird. Is excessive self-touching perhaps a marker of Se?

Also, is anyone else having trouble seeing Ni? Well, actually, I see it just fine (usually) in INTJs, but I almost always miss it in INFJs (assuming Adymus's typings are correct). In fact, I can go back to almost every video he typed as INFJ, and I still don't see it. But when I watch the INTJ ones, I see it almost immediately. Might this have to do with Fe's tendency to be socially manipulative, making it easier/more useful for INFJs to hide their Ni? Perhaps INTJs don't even try, since Te would see less reason to do so than Fe, being more concerned with logic than people-pleasing.

 

[XXXX]

Louis C.K. - INFJ (his Fe is much higher than inferior IMO, although I don't think he's a Fe dom, seems to be using it to push his Ni rather than the other way around - also seems very much directive (J) and not adaptive (P). Some Se picture painting gesturing too.)

LeBron James - ISTJ (agree)

Aubrey Plaza - ENTP (I could be wrong, but I'm not getting an ISFP vibe ... I think those eye flashes were Ne? Eyes are darting a lot- so likely she is a ExxP, she sort of has that blank, bored look that Adymus mentioned re: ExxP's above - her vibe kinda reminds me of Avril Lavigne, who Adymus typed as ENTP, but I'm not going to rule out ENFP.


Trent Renzor - INTJ (agree)

Devin Townshend – ENTP (IMO he is pretty bouncy - he’s sprouting off streams of ideas and has the flailing Ne gesturing that is all over the place and doesn’t really make much sense in terms of what he’s saying – and also think he’s using Fe articulation, but not inferior ... and I feel safe in saying he isn’t an xSFJ)

RE: Se - Adymus mentioned to me previously that Se users often use 'picture painting gesturing' (he was referring to a Jamie Oliver interview who he typed as INTJ) whilst Ne users gesturing (not sure about SJ's with tertiary or inferior Ne?) is "spazzy" and "doesn't make much sense with respect to what they're saying" (he was referring to a Delta Goodrem interview who he typed as ENFP).

 

[ckm]

Edit: Guh. I don't know.

 

[Jedi]

Louis C.K. - ESTP He hops around a lot, which is pretty Dom-Se-esque. In the Conan interview he looks pretty extraverted, but everything he said was canned so ISTP is possible.

Lebron James - Not sure, but ISTJ sounds about right

Aubrey Plaza - INTJ Had a hard time reading her, but my gut says INTJ. My brain was too busy thinking of other things...

Trent Reznor - INTJ

Devin Townsend - ENTP What XXXX said about Ne. Also much of his content sounded pretty Ti-oriented, whatever that means.

Larry David - A lot of people are typing him as INTP

Spoiler

YouTube- ‪Larry David Interview, (part 4 of 8)‬‎

 

[XXXX]

I think Larry David is an INFJ - I didn't watch that interview, but I've seen a few of his interviews before.

A few more I've tried to type:

Jonny Knoxville

Spoiler

YouTube- ‪Johnny Knoxville interview‬‎

John Berardi

Spoiler

YouTube- ‪John Berardi's 1st Visit on the Fanny Kiefer Show - Part 2‬‎

Carson Kressley

Spoiler

YouTube- ‪Interview with Carson Kressely‬‎

Eddie McGuire

Spoiler

YouTube- ‪AFL Footy Show - Eddie McGuire interview (30th July, 2009) Part 1 / 2‬‎

My thoughts:

Spoiler

Jonny Knoxville - ISTJ (IxxJ, Te/Fi user, some Si use?)

Eddie McGuire - ENTJ (definitely directive J, most likely ExxJ - Ni use?, Te articulation)

John Berardi - ISTP (Not getting a great read of him - might have another look later - I'm reasonably confident he's a Ti/Fe user, not sure on the order - I don't see any obvious signs of Si or Ne unless I've completed overlooked something, so I'm going with Se/Ni arc - not sure on order - I haven't read many examples of xSTP, my gut does say his Fe seems higher than inferior though)

Carson Kressley - ESFJ (ExxJ / Fe dom - I think his support is Si - I see quite a few similiarities in interaction style with Tyra Banks who Adymus typed as ESFJ)

 

[ckm]

First off, XXXX: thanks for putting your readings in spoilers. I find it virtually impossible to read someone (or try to) while knowing someone else's opinion. Guys, do you think you could put all your attempts in spoilers, until Adymus confirms them or something?

Here are my attempts:

Jonny Knoxville

Spoiler

ISTJ

John Berardi

Spoiler

INTJ

Carson Kressley

Spoiler

ESFJ

Eddie McGuire

Spoiler

ESTJ

 

[XXXX]

Some more peeps:

Jason DeRulo

Spoiler

YouTube- Jason Derulo Interview

Giada De Laurentiis

Spoiler

YouTube- Giada De Laurentiis December cover photo shoot - SELF Magazine

Brian Johnson

Spoiler

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cMkpsWuDYU

Kirstey Allsopp

Spoiler

YouTube- Kirstie Cleans Up

My reads:

Spoiler

Jason DeRulo – INFJ (surely Ni dom at least – even without spotting cognitive function use, going by what he said at the start of the interview - not completely sold on Te/Fi or Fe/Ti - I thought Te/Fi initially...)

Giada De Laurentiis – ENFJ (Extroverted, Fe dom, Ni user - left drift looks more dreamy then concerned...)

Brian Johnson – ESTP (Se style picture painting gesturing throughout the whole interview – seems very energised when using it, Ti user/Fe articulation)

Kirstey Allsopp - [FONT=&quot]INTJ (Don't think I'm getting a particularly great read of her – I think directive definitely, introverted, Ni dom, Te/Fi user I think?)[/FONT]

 

[typus]

My reads:

Spoiler

Jason DeRulo – INFJ (surely Ni dom at least – even without spotting cognitive function use, going by what he said at the start of the interview - not completely sold on Te/Fi or Fe/Ti - I thought Te/Fi initially...)

Giada De Laurentiis – ENFJ (Extroverted, Fe dom, Ni user - left drift looks more dreamy then concerned...)

Brian Johnson – ESTP (Se style picture painting gesturing throughout the whole interview – seems very energised when using it, Ti user/Fe articulation)

Kirstey Allsopp - [FONT=&quot]INTJ (Don't think I'm getting a particularly great read of her – I think directive definitely, introverted, Ni dom, Te/Fi user I think?)[/FONT]

I got

Spoiler

Jason Derulo
I'm leaning towards ISFJ

Giada De Laurentiis
I'm gonna go with ENFP

Brian Johnson
ESTP maybe, not sure at all about this one

Kristey Allsopp
INFJ

, but this was my first time actually trying to type people, so I might very well be wrong. I'm having a really hard time telling the difference between tertiary/secondary and dominant/secondary...

 

[Ska]

My attempts on the second-to-last batch:

Knoxville:

Spoiler

EXTP....thinking ESTP

Berardi:

Spoiler

EXXJ for sure....thinking ENFJ or ENTJ and leaning towards ENFJ

Kressley:

Spoiler

EXFJ... leaning towards ESFJ

McGuire:

Spoiler

ISTJ

 

[typus]

Mine on second-to-last as well:

Spoiler

Knoxville
ISTP
Berardi
ENTJ
Kressley
ENFJ
McGuire
INTJ, but this is the one I'm least sure about

Watching through your readings I notice that at almost all of them it's one letter differing, and it's spread across all pairs, not just one. Since you agree on most of them, does anyone have a clue about what I'm (probably) doing wrong?

 

[Jedi]

Those INFJs are sure high in numbers. Poor INXPs...

 

[Saeros]

A few more to type:

YouTube- Julia Gillard, first interview with Laurie Oakes as PM (Part 1/2)

Julia Gillard - ISFJ?

YouTube- Sky News - Interview with Tony Abbott

Tony Abbott - ISTP?

 

[XXXX]

Spoiler

I didn't watch those interviews, but have seen a few before and I thought both INTJ for Abbott and Gillard

 

[echoplex]

I'm putting the following quotes in spoilers even though they've already been posted to get into the habit of doing so. Seems like a good idea, ckm.

Spoiler

Louis C.K. - INFJ (his Fe is much higher than inferior IMO, although I don't think he's a Fe dom, seems to be using it to push his Ni rather than the other way around - also seems very much directive (J) and not adaptive (P). Some Se picture painting gesturing too.)

LeBron James - ISTJ (agree)

Aubrey Plaza - ENTP (I could be wrong, but I'm not getting an ISFP vibe ... I think those eye flashes were Ne? Eyes are darting a lot- so likely she is a ExxP, she sort of has that blank, bored look that Adymus mentioned re: ExxP's above - her vibe kinda reminds me of Avril Lavigne, who Adymus typed as ENTP, but I'm not going to rule out ENFP.


Trent Renzor - INTJ (agree)

Devin Townshend – ENTP (IMO he is pretty bouncy - he’s sprouting off streams of ideas and has the flailing Ne gesturing that is all over the place and doesn’t really make much sense in terms of what he’s saying – and also think he’s using Fe articulation, but not inferior ... and I feel safe in saying he isn’t an xSFJ)

RE: Se - Adymus mentioned to me previously that Se users often use 'picture painting gesturing' (he was referring to a Jamie Oliver interview who he typed as INTJ) whilst Ne users gesturing (not sure about SJ's with tertiary or inferior Ne?) is "spazzy" and "doesn't make much sense with respect to what they're saying" (he was referring to a Delta Goodrem interview who he typed as ENFP).

Spoiler

Thanks for your perspective.

C.K.:
heh, if you're right that means I've been bit by the INFJ bug again, eh? I think perhaps I'm expecting INFJs to be these evil, scheming types who appear all mystical or something. So 'normal-ish' guys like him end up seeming more SP-ish to me. My thought was that he, being a comedian, had well-developed Fe and thus articulates pretty well, but you could be right about aux Fe. Comedians tend to seem P to me, I guess because humor strikes me as a laid-back process.

Plaza:
Yeah, I think I misinterpreted the 'bored' look as introversion, a rookie mistake. ExxP appearing bored actually makes alot of sense on second thought. Though I'd still contend she is articulating Te, thus making ENFP seem more likely to me.

Townsend:
I think you're right. On second viewing he doesn't seem likely to be IxxJ to me, though I first thought he was just a 'bouncy INTJ' (whatever that means). He (mostly) articulates well, which had me thinking Te dom/aux (probably not an F), but it does seem a little more like Fe engagement to me now.

Spoiler

Louis C.K. - ESTP He hops around a lot, which is pretty Dom-Se-esque. In the Conan interview he looks pretty extraverted, but everything he said was canned so ISTP is possible.

Spoiler

Yeah, I think Se is definitely there, but you're right that it's a canned performance so it might not be a 'good' video for typing someone with. Apparently many Ni-doms will seem like Se-doms, so I can definitely see how he could be an INFJ in disguise. After watching it again, inferior Fe seems pretty unlikely, in fact he seems about like an Fe dom, tbh.

 

[XXXX]

A few more readings...

Daniel Craig

Spoiler

YouTube- Daniel Craig interview Bond 007 Quantum of Solace with Carrie Keagan

Jennifer Hawkins

Spoiler

YouTube- Jennifer Hawkins Interview with the Herald Sun Online

Kaley Cuoco

Spoiler

YouTube- Kaley Cuoco Video Interview Actress Big Bang Theory

Andrew Johns

Spoiler

YouTube- Andrew Johns Ecstasy Interview - Part 1 of 2

My reads:

Spoiler

Daniel Craig – INTJ (IxxJ, surely Te/Fi user – I’m getting more INTJ vibe than ISTJ)

Jennifer Hawkins – ESFP (confident on ExxP, Fi/Te user, the gesturing seems more Se than Ne style)

Kaley Cuoco - ENFJ (definitely Fe dom with Se style gesturing - reliving the experience)

Andrew Johns – ISTJ (Introvert, and Si concerned look, Te/Fi user - not INFP!)

 

[typus]

On XXXX:s latest batch:

Spoiler

Daniel Craig
INTJ

Jennifer Hawkins
ESFP

Kaley Cuoco
ENFJ

Andrew Johns
ISTJ

I'm surprised :O

 

[₲uardian]

Is this guy really an ENTP?

I can't stand that creep. >:(

 

[Fukyo]

I can't stand that creep. >:(

Have you seen his naked pics on INFJf? XD

 

[₲uardian]

Have you seen his naked pics on INFJf? XD

:C
Thankfully I've only heard about it.

 

[Sparrow]

Only had time to watch Craig, INTJ.

I got some more:

Nancy Grace: YouTube- Nancy Grace Has No Grace - ENTJ

Michelle Obama: YouTube- Michelle Obama interview - "I'm not that interesting" - INFJ

Julie Payette: YouTube- Canadian Astronaut Julie Payette - ENFP

Lou Ferrigno: YouTube- Lou Ferrigno Interview 1/2 - ISTP

Malin Akerman: YouTube- Malin Akerman - Interview October 2009 - ENTP

Cya next year!

 

[cheese]

Tony Abbott

Spoiler

The main thing that struck me was how much he reminds me of Ted Bundy (INFJ). Same snaky gaze, same periods of intense withdrawal, same push with a slyly disarming smile.

He seems to have become extremely sickly though. When he was younger he spoke much more freely, looked more healthy, articulated with less impediments, and generally didn't remind me of Lord Voldemort as much as now.

Could this be over-modulation from tertiary Ti (assuming he's an INFJ)? There certainly seems to be a lot more obstruction to the flow of his thought than previously.

Julia Gillard

Spoiler

Aaargh, this is a type I've encountered so often in life, but I can't put a name to it. I'd guess ESxJ, not very sure on S - she just sort of seems more straightforward than Abbott, in that way Si users do, even if she did pull Rudd's seat out from under him. Poor Kevin and his pursed little mouth.

 

[kibou]

I got a toughie for you guys if anyone's still watching!

YouTube- Miss Teen USA 2007 - South Carolina answers a question

I have NO idea what her type is! I'm seeing so many different signals in her eyes!

 

[XXXX]

ESFP?

You can definitely rule out a worldview type!

 

[kibou]

Here's a more serious one =) Her eyes are so expressive...

http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/elizabeth_gilbert_on_genius.html

 

[EyeSeeCold]

This seems like a lot of work. Are there any behavioral patters between NT, SP, SJ and NF?

 

[Adymus]

This seems like a lot of work. Are there any behavioral patters between NT, SP, SJ and NF?

Nothing physical that is not already covered.

The four temperments are kind of a poor grouping anyway, it doesn't even use a consistent equation.

SJ = The four types that use Si as a perception preference
SJ = The four types that use Se as a perception preference
NT =The four types that have a preference for both a thinking judgment and intuitive perception
NT =The four types that have a preference for both a Feeling judgment and intuitive perception

Kiersey did it wrong. It should have been either NT, NF, ST, and SF, or SJ, SP, NJ, and NP. All Kiersey did was separate types that "seem" to be grouping together, but you can group types in many other ways as well.

 

[Saeros]

Peter Singer - INFJ?

Spoiler

YouTube- Peter Singer Interview (ABC Talking Heads) Part 1 of 3
YouTube- Peter Singer: On Ethics

 

[EyeSeeCold]

Nothing physical that is not already covered.

I saw your post about cognitive functions and the four priorities. I think that could be used as a quicker way to type in real time.

 

[Adymus]

I saw your post about cognitive functions and the four priorities. I think that could be used as a quicker way to type in real time.

I think the guy that wrote both guides would probably know which of the two ways is quicker better than you would.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

How do you assess which is the dominant function and what are the trailing functions?

 

[Adymus]

How do you assess which is the dominant function and what are the trailing functions?

I have a different (and faster) way myself, which I won't get into because it's not easily made objective or concrete.

But using the methodology in this thread: A person will be gaining momentum when using dominant and to a lesser extent auxiliary functions, and modulating when using lower functions. In other words their energy increase with using the two preferred functions, and decreases when using the two lower functions. Combine that with determining if they are directive or adaptive, and extrovert or introvert, and you should be golden for most cases.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

I see, I think I understand. In order to assign functions their roles you have to be able to observe and measure the energy states of all four functions being used.

 

[jgb99]

Do you think there's a strong correlation between how a person's face is composed and structured and their personality type?

ie from your experience would there be a high probability that 2 'look-a-likes' would have the same personality type?

 

[TruthSeeker]

I don't know what Adymus thinks about this, but I have noticed strong correlations. It's not as absolute as the stuff we're discussing here; I have seen some exceptions, but I don't think anyone here will be surprised when I say that many INTP's have what I can only call an "oblong" face.