favorite annoying trait to others of the intp

[pussinboots]

we all bash each other sometimes over attributes owing to our type.
i actually really like the qualities that other types pretty much detest in us intps - namely, our predisposition to be abstract and the tendency we have to drive off course in discussion taking our company on a wild ride they may possibly understand and find exhilirating in the end. yes, we can be scattered and dark and brilliant and anarchistic and helluva lot more.

what are the characteristics you cherish and perhaps, amp up to shake up the masses?

 

[The Fury]

For me it would be my honesty. Though it can sometimes be blunt and devastating, I'm glad that I'm not afraid to give people the truth whenever they ask for it. I can't abide being around people who ask you to be truthful then become outraged when you are (unluckily for me my brother is one of those people).

 

[pussinboots]

For me it would be my honesty. Though it can sometimes be blunt and devastating, I'm glad that I'm not afraid to give people the truth whenever they ask for it.

wow.
totally forgot about that one.
our honesty is a beauty.

 

[truthseeker72]

Our intellectual curiosity and willingness to question conventional wisdom also separates us from the herd.

 

[ViS]

Our vanity.

 

[Sugarpop]

Our tendency to piss people off by adding substance and valid claims to a debate.

 

[Ermine]

my tendency to not make decisions in a timely fashion because I'm seeing a bunch of options at once.

 

[preilemus]

my tendancy to poke holes in faulty logic

 

[flow]

I love my ability to point out someone's contradictions regardless of the time in between them.

 

[Trayal]

A huge point of conflict between me and my wife is that I tend to mercilessly shred some belief of hers, extensively and with concrete evidence, because I feel honor bound to correct her mistaken ideas.

In my defense, though, that mostly happens in cases where she tries to push me to do things the way she thinks they should be done (ESTJ - she thinks she's right and wants to have control over everything). She also has a strong tendency to fall victim to the trap of confirmation bias and also often overlooks the difference between correlation and cause - a very difficult thing for me to leave unchallenged.

 

[Chronomar]

The tendency to argue both sides in an argument for fun.

...I actually think that that is our worst quality because it is confusing, which is not constructive to the debate.

Oh, but yes it is constructive to the debate, other self, because it allows others to know that you have considered different sides in an issue.

 

[truthseeker72]

A huge point of conflict between me and my wife is that I tend to mercilessly shred some belief of hers, extensively and with concrete evidence, because I feel honor bound to correct her mistaken ideas.

In my defense, though, that mostly happens in cases where she tries to push me to do things the way she thinks they should be done (ESTJ - she thinks she's right and wants to have control over everything). She also has a strong tendency to fall victim to the trap of confirmation bias and also often overlooks the difference between correlation and cause - a very difficult thing for me to leave unchallenged.[/quote

My girlfriend (an ESTJ) and I have these arguments almost daily. She definitely craves control, and as an INTP, I resist all efforts to control me.

 

[Trayal]

My girlfriend (an ESTJ) and I have these arguments almost daily. She definitely craves control, and as an INTP, I resist all efforts to control me.

Just wait till children enter the picture and you have disagreements about how do to all the innumerable tasks that entails (like, for example, changing a diaper). Naturally, she has opinions on all of them; and, also naturally, I am full on stubborn and refuse to comply. Then it gets really fun!

 

[zephryi]

The tendency to argue both sides in an argument for fun.

...I actually think that that is our worst quality because it is confusing, which is not constructive to the debate.

Oh, but yes it is constructive to the debate, other self, because it allows others to know that you have considered different sides in an issue.

Plus, if you argue both sides, you (usually) understand the issues of both sides better and can run circles around those who haven't thought about the opposing side as much as they have about their own position.

I love acting as devil's advocate, which my friends are used to, but often complain that I'm too quick to say someone's wrong, but it's fun to see if you can argue against points that you obviously agree with. And if you can't argue your position well, then it must not be strong enough so try again- and ideas emerge much more fully formed with more perspective considered after being opposed; yet another positive.
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[Anling]

my tendancy to poke holes in faulty logic

I think I am addicted to this activity. It's just so fun. But I guess that would be annoying to most other types.

 

[Solfege]

Being self-absorbed enough to have a thread in which we enumerate and celebrate our supposedly annoying traits. Of course, as INTPs, we would call this being objective or playing the devil's advocate.

 

[Kuu]

The tendency to argue both sides in an argument for fun.

...I actually think that that is our worst quality because it is confusing, which is not constructive to the debate.

Oh, but yes it is constructive to the debate, other self, because it allows others to know that you have considered different sides in an issue.

This, hands down. And it's only constructive if the others are keen enough to realize what you are doing. Which is, eh.. never?

<---- the look on people's faces after I've finished talking.

 

[Ermine]

I like to argue for fun just to give my Ti a walk and see the opponent get flustered.

I can be a sick animal when it comes to humor. Nothing can be defended from my sense of humor, and I like to jokingly insult my friends, and play "argumentative married couple" with some of my male friends.

 

[echoplex]

Pointing out the illogical, purposefully coming up with absurd ideas for fun, and my dark sense of humor.

 

[snowqueen]

My tenaciousness when I am pursuing an idea - I often describe myself as a 'dog with a bone'. It's irritating to people who want to move on to another topic or when it's about something personal and I should probably have let it drop because I'm just grinding someone's nose in it, but it's been hugely helpful in my work as a academic.

 

[IfloatTHRUlife]

A lot has already been mentioned except the fact.. I am such a party pooper. I am just plain not amused by things people normally want to do, and im not afraid to tell them i dont want to do it and why i think its dumb to do.

Also love the fact i must seem so random to people who dont know me. Like in school some people probably saw me in class, completely quiet, staring at the wall, or sleeping... know im failing the class... then i still get amazing grades on tests. Then they might see me at lunch talking to my friends and being extroverted, the center of attention, telling jokes, seeming friendly. And after that they might have walked up to me and tried to be friendly and say hi and i more than likely reacted negetively (getting even more negetive the more positive thier introduction was)

soooo..... lazy genius...friendly comic...and an asshole? good stuff

 

[Carnap]

Well, the tendency to intellectualize everything. I love it. I feel that I understand my actions and beliefs more than the majority of people.

But my ISTJ says that my "pseudo intellectualism is not attractive", that I'm hiding behind it and it's "not me".

I'm a pseudo intellectual? And, pray tell, who is a real intellectual and how did they get there, and am I allowed to be one?

We don't get a long. And, I make her and other people insecure.

I don't like that one.

 

[echoplex]

Well, the tendency to intellectualize everything. I love it. I feel that I understand my actions and beliefs more than the majority of people.

But my ISTJ says that my "pseudo intellectualism is not attractive", that I'm hiding behind it and it's "not me".

I'm a pseudo intellectual? And, pray tell, who is a real intellectual and how did they get there, and am I allowed to be one?

We don't get a long. And, I make her and other people insecure.

I don't like that one.

It is funny to hear someone tell you what is and isn't "me", huh? And I've wondered that too, you always hear of "pseudo-intellectuals" but no one ever reveals who the "real" intellectuals are. Perhaps they don't exist, or perhaps they have been kidnapped by the SJs and the ones they weren't able to kidnap are branded with "pseudo."

 

[Red Mage]

I'm an anti-intellectual masquerading as a pseudo-intellectual masquerading as an intellectual masquerading as an idiot. Yeah.

 

[snowqueen]

I'm an anti-intellectual masquerading as a pseudo-intellectual masquerading as an intellectual masquerading as an idiot. Yeah.

While I'm just a idiot a lot of the time.

 

[dwags222]

i'm pretty sure that psuedo-intellectuals are the ones who think they understand a subject because they've studied it a bit, but really lack a truly indepth understanding of the subject. i actually think intp's tend to be quite guilty of this, i know i am on some subjects.

 

[secretsmile]

My husband argues with me over everything. Not always angrily, but still, lol. It drives me nuts sometimes, other times it makes us laugh. We argue over how differently we tend to see things. You will hear me say, "I don't care if it's logical, it's how I FEEL and you can't argue with my feelings." Naturally, he doesn't like that. No matter the argument, that is the underlying issue. lol. For me it's annoying that he tends to not appreciate my emotional point of view, but it's part of what makes him a rational, calm, stable human being, so it has its upside.

 

[sagewolf]

My tendency to half-do everything and "come back to that later/after a cup of tea/after lunch/tomorrow/insert-vague-time-in-future-here".

Thing that really pisses my mother off: My quirky sense of humor: I seem to find being yelled at funny. I get in so much trouble for that. (Which leads to more yelling and more laughing.)

My tendency to do out intricate plans in order to put off actually carrying them out, then lose them and make everything up as I go along anyway, except in half the time.

My remarkable ability to listen to everything someone says, accept every piece of advice they give me with a polite nod and a smile, thank them for their concern and time, then go off and completely disregard it all to do exactly what I want to do (which is probably what prompted them to give me advice in the first place).

 

[severus]

My remarkable ability to listen to everything someone says, accept every piece of advice they give me with a polite nod and a smile, thank them for their concern and time, then go off and completely disregard it all to do exactly what I want to do (which is probably what prompted them to give me advice in the first place).

I frequently ask people for their opinions (what shirt should I wear?etc.), but don't use them. They think I'm being an ass, but really I'm absorbing their information and using it to come to my own conclusion. Yay Ti!

Although I wouldn't say that's a favorite trait of mine....

 

[Reverse Transcriptase]

I <3 this thread.

 

[Ermine]

Thing that really pisses my mother off: My quirky sense of humor: I seem to find being yelled at funny. I get in so much trouble for that. (Which leads to more yelling and more laughing.)

That happens to me all the time! Whenever my mom yells me, I always focus on how funny my mom looks when she yells rather than what she's saying.

 

[s0nystyle]

I love how i correct others when they makes mistakes in conversations, then give them ALOT of shit for it