does anyone else feel the people in the forum do not match your personality type?

[smegmaprotein]

im reading posts about people feeling awkward when they get compliments, not liking being touched or being close to someone, writing your own thoughts, not liking small talk, poetry, reading books.

wtf...

i love to get complimented, i dont mind being touched or being close to a girl if shes atleast average looking, and i hug my male cousins and shake/slap hands with my male friends all the time. i initiate hand shakes to good people all the time. i never write my own thoughts... i enjoy small talk with co-workers. i also do not enjoy reading poetry. i like hip hop if that counts, i also like vulgar rap music too. i do not like reading.

i feel the people on this forum are on another level... maybe a different planet... the only thing we do have in common would be the Introvertedness. I am shy and i dont talk when im in large groups but in a small circle of friends i get told to shut the fuck up for talking too much all the time. i also do think too much sometimes. i have a vivid fantasy world in my head where i make up random scenarios...

as far as aspirations are considered, i do not want to be an author or a philosopher. i really want to join the military and usually its not an INTP thing. its mainly an ISTJ thing. (25% of the military is ISTJ from a study i read). I don't want to be an armed soldier in the sandbox, but rather an Officer in the USAF working in an office that's A/C'ed

perhaps when i fill out surveys i am checking the response which i shouldn't be. not sure..

 

[echoplex]

This typing system (commonly referred to as MBTI) is not well-equipped to determine whether someone likes poetry, being touched, small talk, or anything else really. It is meant to try to determine, roughly, which mental processes you tend to prefer and/or which energize you as opposed to drain you. Now obviously if you can determine the hierarchy of processes, there are certain tendencies you would expect/observe in populations of same-type people, but there are also valid reasons why behavior might deviate from expectations, since these mental processes are not actually preventing you from doing anything.

I am sure good arguments could be made that you're an INTP and I'm also sure good ones could be made that half (or more) of the people here are not INTP. I have strongly considered that I may be ISTJ myself. I have a damn good memory, way better than almost everyone I know, and I'm easily affected by images, esp. landscapes, that remind me of my past. I highly doubt this forum is full of people who are 100% certain they are INTP (esp. when you consider that it's not typical for INTPs to be 100% sure of anything).

Regarding your examples of deviant-around-here behavior (or any others you think of), I'd suggest that you don't consider the likes/dislikes themselves, but rather the reasons behind them, since analyzing reasons themselves will likely bring you closer to understanding how your mind tends to work. Even then you won't necessarily be any closer to knowing which type 'fits', but if there was ever a way to type by listing hobbies (and for the record I think it's silly), exploring the reasons for them would be your best bet, imo.

Also, between you and me, I think there's a little superiority complex involved in the supposed hatred of small talk around here, or at least the insistence of focusing on it.

Note: It's also possible that the entire theory and/or its framework is shit. It's not even a century old and it takes a while for humans to iron things out. (this should be included in every type-related post)

 

[Ermine]

Yeah. And I'm often glad of it. Really, it would be silly if all people of a given MBTI type had the exact same personality. Just be whatever you are.

And if we're going to get into how I'm different from the people in the forum, I guess it's that I am more practical and ambitious. I like being laid back and theorizing about stuff that has no application to the real world. But I find it more worthwhile to get things done, feel accomplished, and work with things that are practical enough that I can get results. I'm all for imagination, but I prefer that the solution is executable.

I sound like an INTJ, but I'm pretty sure I'm not...

 

[Adymus]

Well for starters, it is very possible that you and many if not most of the people on this forum are not INTPs at all, the MBTI test is extremely inaccurate.

That said, you also cannot expect to match up 100% to type descriptions, or the idea of how types are "supposed" to act, even if you really are said type.


None of the MBTI descriptions are universally accurate. The MBTI test was designed to only check for preferred use of your top two functions, and the descriptions of MBTI types are only describing a person that has proficient use of their top two functions, (which is pretty damn undeveloped). That means that a person who has development in more than their top two functions will more than likely test as something else, and they will contradict as well as not relate to the descriptions of types.

When a person begins to develop their lower and less preferred functions (Such as Si and Fe for an INTP; the sensing and feeling sides of their conscious mind), they will begin to become more consciously aware of these functions. Essentially the functions will take up more "space" in the conscious mind than they had before, and they actually become closer to one's identity. This change shifts your perception of who you are, and who you are not. Because of this, a well developed personality might just look at the MBTI descriptions (which are only describing the bare minimum of development), and say "Ewww, that's not me at all!"

For example, when you see an INTP that says they hate being around people, or dislike being touched, it is very likely that this particular INTP does not have a very good relationship with their own Fe, and are still not comfortable taking part in many of the Fe rituals that they encounter in life. Now that does not mean that you are supposed to have this same opinion just because you are the same personality type. You see, you might be using the same configuration of cognitive functions, but you are still a different person who as lead a different life, and has thus developed differently, with possibly more confidence and comfort in the areas that are alien to many other INTPs.

It is not necessarily just well developed personalities that might run into the problem of not relating to type descriptions either, there are many ways a person might end up developing (Gripped up, etc) that would alter their perception of self verses a description of how they are supposed to be.

That is the inherent flaw of the single descriptions of MBTI, you are only describing one personality prototype, and you are doing so at the most superficial of levels.

However, there are still universal truths to each personality configuration that can be expressed without making ridiculous broad generalizations like "INTP hate being around people."

 

[Adamastor]

I have not ever been sure that I should be put as an INTP... This kinda of makes me sad, since I really, really enjoy lurking around here.

I've read somewhere sometime ago that some random person considered herself as an E that developed as an I, well, I second that, so that would make me an ENTP at heart!

Again, somewhere I've read that ENTPs tend to be somehow shallower than INTPs, when it comes to ideas and, dunno, maybe because I've always considered myself pretty mediocre, rather always below my own standards (which may be quite frustating sometimes), I wasn't really that difficult to accept it...

It's not a matter of tastes or something, I find the test itself very interesting but I have not really put any deep thought on it, since it would be way to good to be 70% accurate classifying the world population (not that they are something special though) with say around 70 questions with 2 choices it, that's just silly

Well, one of the strongest differences I felt from the majority of them here was some despise for work, tests, SAT, etc... I fail miserably when it comes to put effort on it, but I prefer to see this as some sort of incompetence that must be overcome and not something to be proud of. You see, I am pretty greedy and I am pretty sure I am going far economically, I've always thought that I would make this wonderful world more to my liking, if the means for it were provided...

Maybe, my egotistical, dominant nature is somewhat of an INTJ trait and that is one of my main features! Freedom, liberty are things I value above everything else, especially because they apparently mean so little to me, since I, as a human being, promptly let it go, because as some author I am sure said "Humans have no right to live alone.", thus there is no way I can be free, it doesn't matter if I wanted to stand alone. Now, what has this with INTJ traits? Well, it's quite logical in fact: my biggest dream was always to put myself in a place where I would be free, where I dictated the rules and this is possible if I simply put everyone else below my authority and putting yourself above others, socially was always a game played by humanity since the beginning and to excel in a chessboard, nothing better to acting as an INTJ, they / us are naturals after, aren't they?

But it is has a said, minor things like that doest really matter at all; I enjoy my lurking here very much

 

[Minuend]

Yeah, some, but then again, I'm not entirely sure of my INTPness. I do relate to quite a few characters here, though. They make more sense than a lot of other people I know. But just because I understand them, doesn't mean that I'm "one of them".

I feel the people on this forum are on another level... maybe a different planet...[...]

I generally feel that I live in a different world from most people. Not better or worse, just different.

 

[Melkor]

I may be in the ENTP closet.

I am highly terrified of this possibility , it would mean some would expect so much more of me.

 

[Words]

Yes, but mainly out of the gap of cultures: religion, ethics, etiquette. If I remove that factor, most thoughts/opinions are surprisingly identical to mine[I do not enjoy books or poetry but I have potential to enjoy them]. I have recently moved to a western society and it's quite a novel yet awkward experience. Women wear less, absence of politeness, mixed races etc. My conservative background separates me.

We are similar to everything else excluding these:

i enjoy small talk with co-workers.

I do not have the same potential.

as far as aspirations are considered, i do not want to be an author or a philosopher.

You have not even thought of it? I did not consider writing as a main occupation but I do think of writing books: fiction and non-fiction.

For the latter, I already am a philosopher. (If I have the correct definition.)

i really want to join the military and usually its not an INTP thing. its mainly an ISTJ thing. (25% of the military is ISTJ from a study i read). I don't want to be an armed soldier in the sandbox, but rather an Officer in the USAF working in an office that's A/C'ed

I also significantly thought of joining the military but our difference is that I want to be the armed soldier[the experience seems interesting], not in an "office".

Also, a military strategist.

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This activity[mine and everyone] of defining similarities and differences seems to irritate me; It stabs me with the notion of segregation and robs me of openness, of potential.

I'm fond of the idea of potential.

 

[asdfasdfasdfsdf]

I've always thought that I would make this wonderful world more to my liking, if the means for it were provided...

this SCREAMS entp (not intj)

 

[Adymus]

this SCREAMS entp (not intj)

No actually it does sound INxJ. Wanting to turn your vision of how the world should be (in this case Ni) into reality is a classic Ni and Si dominant mindset.

Not that that makes him an INTJ or anything, I personally have my own ideas of how the world should be as well.

 

[asdfasdfasdfsdf]

Wanting to turn your vision of how the world should be (in this case Ni) into reality is a classic Ni and Si dominant mindset..

meh. everything ive ever read about entp has stated that they aim to change/"better" the world to be more suitable toward them. Entps are Si like you said, but i had never heard of it being and Ni trait as well (although i guess infjs are supposed to be slightly manipulative in that way)

 

[Irishpenguin]

I may be in the ENTP closet.

I am highly terrified of this possibility , it would mean some would expect so much more of me.

Wait a sec....but I might be in the ENTP closet...so that would mean...oh noes

WE MIGHT BE IN THE SAME CLOSET!!

AND WE'RE BOTH TERRIFIED OF POSSIBILITIES! (okay I admittedly haven't been very terrified for awhile now, but now that you're here in this closet too....)

 

[echoplex]

^ heh, but wouldn't Ne-doms embrace possibilities rather than be terrified of them? That being said, an extrovert would certainly fear being in a closet for long periods, boredom and all. An introvert might fare a bit better.

This activity[mine and everyone] of defining similarities and differences seems to irritate me; It stabs me with the notion of segregation and robs me of openness, of potential.

I'm fond of the idea of potential.

Me too, but I wonder if it's somewhat of a necessary evil if you're going to attempt to type people/yourself within this system. Clearly if a system has 16 different groupings, then you'd have to assume they all have distinguishing factors, or else why have 16?

The problem is simply that people often go about it the wrong way. They want the system to work so bad, and they want to feel they 'get' it (both it and people/themselves) that they oversimplify it, and that's where you get the segregation and loss of openness -- when people, desperate for a sense of understanding, start talking about what a type can't do, or what it must do, creating a neat little system in their head where everything makes 'sense.'

But I guess what I'm saying is that it may be necessary, if people are ever going to understand themselves/others this way (typology), to approach the system by at least trying to define similarities and differences. After all, there has to be some difference between, say, an INTP and an ENFJ, or else the labels are meaningless. Of course, people shouldn't assume they are correct either. They are merely attempting to define themselves vs. others, and they will likely fail more often than succeed. You might say most attempts to define the types have been 'failures' thus far.

 

[Lobstrich]

Maybe you are the one that doesn't match your personality type?

 

[Firehazard159]

im reading posts about people feeling awkward when they get compliments, not liking being touched or being close to someone, writing your own thoughts, not liking small talk, poetry, reading books.

wtf...

i love to get complimented, i dont mind being touched or being close to a girl if shes atleast average looking, and i hug my male cousins and shake/slap hands with my male friends all the time. i initiate hand shakes to good people all the time. i never write my own thoughts... i enjoy small talk with co-workers. i also do not enjoy reading poetry. i like hip hop if that counts, i also like vulgar rap music too. i do not like reading.

i feel the people on this forum are on another level... maybe a different planet... the only thing we do have in common would be the Introvertedness. I am shy and i dont talk when im in large groups but in a small circle of friends i get told to shut the fuck up for talking too much all the time. i also do think too much sometimes. i have a vivid fantasy world in my head where i make up random scenarios...

as far as aspirations are considered, i do not want to be an author or a philosopher. i really want to join the military and usually its not an INTP thing. its mainly an ISTJ thing. (25% of the military is ISTJ from a study i read). I don't want to be an armed soldier in the sandbox, but rather an Officer in the USAF working in an office that's A/C'ed

perhaps when i fill out surveys i am checking the response which i shouldn't be. not sure..

FYI, I'm an INTP in the USAF ^_^ (Goes on to continue reading the thread now XD)

I'm not exactly averse to touch like everyone else, but it severely depends on who it is. I like hip hop, too :P but like most music, it really depends. My taste is extremely eclectic. I feel awkward when I'm complimented, I couldn't say 'hate' necessarily. I don't write my own thoughts, and don't particularly like poetry (Though I do like cleverness in words, like entendre's and what not.) I do dislike small talk and love reading, though.

I really don't think we're limited to interests inside a type.

I've also considered myself potentially an ENTP or INTJ ^_^

Welcome to the world of INTP's imo. lolz.

 

[Fukyo]

WE MIGHT BE IN THE SAME CLOSET!!

I love the subtext here.

 

[Adymus]

meh. everything ive ever read about entp has stated that they aim to change/"better" the world to be more suitable toward them. Entps are Si like you said, but i had never heard of it being and Ni trait as well (although i guess infjs are supposed to be slightly manipulative in that way)

That is probably because the ENTPs have a very similar original minded perspective in that they begin with possibilities, using Ti to sift through and understand them. Essentially they both begin with with thinking outside of the box, and using logic to do something with those ideas. (INTJs and ENTPs are very often confused for each other as well.)
But ENTPs don't have that inner future vision of what the world should look like, that you would get when you are an Ni dom.

You should probably not take broad statements like "ENTP's aim to better the world" seriously unless the source explains why that is (Or you can at least figure it out on your own.) There is a lot of bad and inaccurate information out there in these type description.

 

[loveofreason]

Wait a sec....but I might be in the ENTP closet...so that would mean...oh noes

WE MIGHT BE IN THE SAME CLOSET!!

Indeed, Melkor has been paying me rent for those salacious palacious ...err.. palatial quarters for some time now. But please. Keep the noise down. The neighbours are asking questions >>

 

[Methuselah]

Yeah. And I'm often glad of it. Really, it would be silly if all people of a given MBTI type had the exact same personality. Just be whatever you are.

And if we're going to get into how I'm different from the people in the forum, I guess it's that I am more practical and ambitious. I like being laid back and theorizing about stuff that has no application to the real world. But I find it more worthwhile to get things done, feel accomplished, and work with things that are practical enough that I can get results. I'm all for imagination, but I prefer that the solution is executable.

I sound like an INTJ, but I'm pretty sure I'm not...

Somewhere out there on the net is a type description that separates the positive and negative qualities of each type, as well as what will happen when they are successful vs unsuccessful.

That is probably a lot of what you are seeing. Plenty of INTPs talk, are not afraid of close contact, have lots of friends, talk a lot when they are having an "on" day, etc. But many others fail to develop the social skills that will allow them that kind of life. It really depends on the person.

I remember reading the top jobs for INTPs a long time ago... it went something like, "psychologist, lawyer, consultant, food service industry." A personality is what you make of it.

 

[Philosophyking87]

On one hand, everyone here seems to appreciate logic, on some level (or at least has some familiarity with it, in one way or another). Along with this, general abstract thinking and introversion tends to be readily discerned.

On the other hand, however, there 'are' distinctions between people here that cannot go unnoticed. Some people are extremely cynical and objective, while others are more positive and friendly. Some are detached, analytical, and extremely logical, while others seem a little more gregarious, outgoing, and emotionally sensitive/receptive.

So while we share major common characteristics, it must be noted that not everyone here truly bears the 'core traits' of the quintessential INTP (this usually being extreme logic, highly objective thinking, very little emotion, strong extraverted intuition, all resembling the typical NT (rational) type, especially the INTJ type). Some people here are either a bit more balanced in their cognitive functions (which I've noticed tends to happen often, which I don't fully understand) or have simply mistyped and perhaps are not actually INTP.

Although, as Adymus already said, you cannot expect the MBTI to be either fully accurate and/or entirely comprehensive in its ability to group/match people (as people don't easily fit into these rather arbitrary typological boxes we've created in the development of psychological types). Therefore, if we should wish for everyone here to really resemble one another in some superficial fashion, we must first assume that the MBTI has accurately typed the majority of us to some extent, and then on top of that, also ignore the reality that INTPs aren't likely going to completely fit the INTP description in every sense, to the point where we can all sit around and have fun attempting to notice the minute differences between us. In all reality, there are many differences between all of us, and therefore we shouldn't expect to see a truly homogenized presence of INTPs here.

So, all in all, we all just share common traits (for the most part).
Other than that, we shouldn't ever expect to completely relate to anyone here in any accurate fashion, because that is... well... downright illogical.
The differences among us all should have already been accepted.

In fact, I've only really met a handful of people here on this site, to be honest, who I've felt actually resemble the INTP description in a really compelling manner (in a way that I could really relate with). My only difference, personally, is that I am not as mathematically or scientifically inclined as the prototypical INTP stereotype would have us believe this type tends to be. While I do appreciate math, I do not really value it; and while I value and appreciate science, I do not prefer it. Hence, I'm a more artistically inclined INTP. Yet, regardless of this, I tend to fit the typical traits of the INTP almost to the T. I'm highly objective, highly unemotional, highly anti-social, highly intuitive, highly innovative, highly inventive, highly creative, and highly logical. So I'm a great candidate for this type (regardless of the fact that I prefer philosophy and music to science and math).

So, basically, we're all different (in some minor ways, e.g., not liking math, and in some rather more serious ways e.g., being a more emotional INP that may be more balanced in thinking/feeling, or not really an INTP).

 

[Philosophyking87]

Additionally, I'd like that add that it really requires an understanding of how the eight cognitive functions work and operate to truly understand why there is such a plethora of differences among us INTPs here on this site. Or, if not a thorough understanding of the cognitive functions and their relationship to type, some familiarity with it would definitely help out enormously.

Not all INTPs developed in the exact same manner.
Surely, patterns can be ascertained. Surely, out similarities can be recognized.
But as Adymus said, some functions may develop faster for some people and slower for others. Or, some people may develop functions which aren't usually considered part of a stereotypical type (and this will undoubtedly affect how they function from day to day, appear to others, and their relationship to any one type of personality).

For example, someone might think they are INFJ. Eventually, they'll realize they like thinking a lot, and aren't always emotional, but sometimes more systems-minded like INTJs. Perhaps they've noticed they have a strong Te. Perhaps also that they might have a developed Ti, as well. And perhaps they don't really relate to the Fe aspect of the INFJ description (which means they enjoy helping others). Perhaps they find that they have a more developed Fi.

Based on these functions, they really aren't INFJ, but merely resemble them for all the wrong reasons. For how can someone be an INFJ who doesn't have a strong Fe? Surely, INFJ and INTJ both share a common Ni, but would a highly developed Fi, followed by a somewhat developed Te point to INTJ? But what if Ti and Fe are also 'somewhat' developed? Isn't this person still a very weak version of an INTJ, beneath all of the Fi and Te? What happens when someone is more balanced, cognitively? Will they resemble any one type, or a little of two types? Would this person then be an INXJ? Or, are they an INTJ with a highly developed Fi?

Additionally, suppose an INTP has a highly developed Ni that equals their Ne. Suppose also that they have developed Fi and Te (in some moderate way). Is this person INTP or INTJ? Cognitively, perhaps they may resemble an INTJ to some extent, while largely relating more to the INTP type.

Hence, through these examples, we can see that not everyone really fits, cognitively, in a nice and snug fashion with any one type, which can easily create distinctions and prevent real homogeneity.

 

[BigApplePi]

There are only 16 temperaments listed. Do you know more than 15 other people in your lifetime? If the answer is "yes", then you have duplicates. Suppose you know 500. Are ANY of them alike? -- unless there are identical twins. Suppose they are all different. How are they different? Now try to put all the INTPs in a box. They will be all the same for being Ti, Ne, Si and Fe. Everything else will be different.

 

[snafupants]

it may not be reciprocated, but i feel an intellectual kinship with many of the people (persona in Melkors case) on the forum. some people are way more cynical and fatalistic than me, or do more drugs than i do, but those are just superficial differences. the lifestyles are - have to be - different; however, the underlying manner in which intps process information, relish intellectual stimulation, enjoy bomb thrower iconoclastic types, and possibly undermine social conventions is more similar than disparate. At least, in my mind.

 

[Riiscup]

Hello Everyone, I am new to this forum, but I must admit I have peeked in from time to time. I too wondered if some here were truly INTP. But in reading PhilosophyKing's post, I realized that there are INTP characteristics that I have that I do not like, so I actively try to change them so that eventually they are like second nature. Perhaps this may be the case with some others. When I took the MBTI, there were questions that I wanted to answer one way because I thought I would want to believe I WAS that way, but really I was another way and so I had to carefully take the test based on how I truly feel about things. The whole anti-social, unemotional thing is totally me although I don't want it to be. I have been told by many throughout my life that I seem really cold and detached. The funny thing about it is that I am actually quite emotional internally. Not much at all externally, though I am getting better. I, too, can appreciate math and science and wish I was better at them, but am not. My main interests lie in the arts as well. I find sometimes that my emotions and what I am feeling cannot be accurately expressed in words as well as can be expressed through dance or a carefully composed piece of music. I love poets and musicians and their ability to pick just the right words to express just the right feeling. Of course, everyone here could not all be the exact same. We are all different people from all over, raised by different parents in different cultures. It only makes since we don't all fit perfectly in the box. This is just my thoughts on the topic.

 

[Philosophyking87]

Riiscup: nice observations.
I too sometimes feel as though I can only really express an emotion or thought in some artistic form, such as poetry, a drawing or painting, or a musical composition. It's this odd intelligible realm of insight and intuition which somehow makes sense, although in some linguistically incommunicative fashion.

And I definitely feel more drawn to the arts and humanities, over the mathematics and science departments. But as you said, we're all from different backgrounds and also have different strengths of our functions, which would easily make many of us different and not easily fit into some stereotypical box.

As snafupants said:

however, the underlying manner in which intps process information, relish intellectual stimulation, enjoy bomb thrower iconoclastic types, and possibly undermine social conventions is more similar than disparate. At least, in my mind.

 

[Razare]

I'm starting to think everyone should give up trying to figure out their own type; it's about the most difficult endeavor there is because we have too much relevant information about ourselves which could support many different claims.

 

[Ska]

I'm starting to think everyone should give up trying to figure out their own type; it's about the most difficult endeavor there is because we have too much relevant information about ourselves which could support many different claims.

I don't think the goal is so much to figure out one's type as it matches up to a bunch of behavior based descriptions as it is to figure out and identify what cognitive functions you use consciously and in what order you prefer them. That's really what the theory all comes down to.

 

[nexion]

God, my only confusion is that most everyone on this forum says fucking weird things.

 

[vorre]

i love to get complimented, i dont mind being touched or being close to a girl if shes atleast average looking, and i hug my male cousins and shake/slap hands with my male friends all the time. i initiate hand shakes to good people all the time. i never write my own thoughts... i enjoy small talk with co-workers. i also do not enjoy reading poetry. i like hip hop if that counts, i also like vulgar rap music too. i do not like reading.

Pretty much like me. Im mayby not initiating hand slaps/hugs with people i dont know too well. But i love to be physical with coworkers and friends that enjoy it, but they often have to start/initiate the "physical" contact.

And i agree with the other things fully. I do read, but not that much. And hip hop/rap just kick ass.

i feel the people on this forum are on another level... maybe a different planet... the only thing we do have in common would be the Introvertedness. I am shy and i dont talk when im in large groups but in a small circle of friends i get told to shut the fuck up for talking too much all the time. i also do think too much sometimes. i have a vivid fantasy world in my head where i make up random scenarios...

well i agree pretty much here as well. It's like i have another self when im in small groups with ppl i know. But still it's rare that i get told to shut up, even in small groups i tend to like normal conversation tempo with time to think alot ;-) But it all depends on what ppl you hang out with, most of my friends are extroverts and it's hard to talk more then them, but it's a different thing when i hang out with my few introverted friends.

as far as aspirations are considered, i do not want to be an author or a philosopher. i really want to join the military and usually its not an INTP thing. its mainly an ISTJ thing. (25% of the military is ISTJ from a study i read). I don't want to be an armed soldier in the sandbox, but rather an Officer in the USAF working in an office that's A/C'ed

perhaps when i fill out surveys i am checking the response which i shouldn't be. not sure..

I did my military service a few years ago as a "Artic Ranger" here in Sweden. It was a very though experience for me, as it didn't suit me very much. It got the impression it was mostly a bunch of idiots enjoying pushing ppl around. And i didn't like the "badboy/alphamale" atmosphere that was going on, even though i somewhat searched for it before i applied for the service as a "Artic Ranger".

I suppose you are pretty young and maybe you haven't found yourself yet. I will not say that military service is all bad, but i think you should take a second thought about it.
And even though i didnt like my overall impression of the military training, i did get some very good friends i meet now and then, and i also got to know myself very good, which im thankful for today. But i wouldn't apply for military service if i could go back in time, instead i would do something more useful with my time.

just my 2 cent.

BTW you can absolutely be a INTP, no doubt, and it's a good thing that u seem to have developed your Fe very much!

 

[Inappropriate Behavior]

God, my only confusion is that most everyone on this forum says fucking weird things.

hmmph, tell me about it. Bunch of weirdos around here. Freaky-deaky weirdos.

I mean, how most of them have managed to last so long without responsible members of their communities rounding them up and shipping them off to work camps in outer Mongolia is beyond me.

Frankly I'm happy...no, ecstatic, that I'm not like these deviants.

*kisses*

 

[AlisaD]

hmmph, tell me about it. Bunch of weirdos around here. Freaky-deaky weirdos.

I mean, how most of them have managed to last so long without responsible members of their communities rounding them up and shipping them off to work camps in outer Mongolia is beyond me.

Frankly I'm happy...no, ecstatic, that I'm not like these deviants.

*kisses*

Luckily there are still a few living monuments of decency, righteousness and graciousness like you IB, keeping us weirdos from falling into a bottomless pit of decadence and debauchery.

You are an example for us all, good sir.

 

[KazeCraven]

I think we need to make a distinction between personality type and MBTI type.

Then we need to make a distinction between type descriptions and cognitive processes.

Then we need to make a distinction between what the MBTI explains well and what the MBTI is really fuzzy about.

Now that we've made the distinctions, we can get to work:
1) you guys's personalities are so different from me it's not even funny, but your cognitive processes seem to be the same
2) ... yeah, that about sums it up

 

[Minuend]

I like the word decadence

And Melkor is soooo ENTP.

You know, things would have been a lot easier if Adymus would make one of those INTP subtype threads he promised us =<
I say we gather our pitchforks and poke at him to he caves.

 

[Cavallier]

God, my only confusion is that most everyone on this forum says fucking weird things.

If you mean the seemingly random stuff mostly I think people are just going with intuition and free association. I do this a lot. I think of it as thinking sideways. I get bored with thinking in straight lines while out in the real world.

It's a good thing IB is here to fling his poo at us.

 

[Allinea]

If we were all the same, what fun would the world be? It's not like we can all be perfectly sorted into groups where everyone is exactly the same and has the same interests. I like writing poetry, I devour books, I don't like it when people compliment me and I do like writing down my thoughts; whatever is in my mind. But I am fine with people touching me. We are all different in our own ways.

(LOL, now I think I said too much )

 

[nexion]

If you mean the seemingly random stuff mostly I think people are just going with intuition and free association. I do this a lot. I think of it as thinking sideways. I get bored with thinking in straight lines while out in the real world.

It's a good thing IB is here to fling his poo at us.

I guess so. Maybe I just can't loosen up.

 

[DesertSmeagle]

The test is too general. There should b.e like subtypes of each personality because everyone is really unique and has different experiences..like i might like completely different music than some people. which is prety much everything except modern hard rock and most rap.

 

[nexion]

The test is too general. There should b.e like subtypes of each personality because everyone is really unique and has different experiences..like i might like completely different music than some people. which is prety much everything except modern hard rock and most rap.

Music is entirely subjective, and based mostly on experience rather than on the chemical makeup in the brain, so I do not see such as a viable subgroup within a personality type.

The test is somewhat vague. However, I think this is how it should be. Anything which tries to put the human in any number of categories is going to fail, because humans are [basically] infinite. Because every system such as this is going to fail to describe everybody, it should have the ability to loosely describe most within that category while also leaving a wide berth for ambiguity and personal interpretation based on experience and environment. In short, subcategories may not be such a good idea.

 

[DesertSmeagle]

and theres one huge problem with the test that kinda sux...bias...my dad is the most biased person on earth, and sees himself as a completely different person than he is..alot of people who take the test will often just choose who they want themselves to be...this used to be me a few years ago.. i tested isfp, which is completely not me.. i just figured that, because im a good artist, i cant be a logical, unemotional person. i have emotion, i just dnt act like a retard and get dramatic like my mother ..i dnt know what she is. im not even a serious artist i can just draw good and am creative..

 

[nexion]

and theres one huge problem with the test that kinda sux...bias...my dad is the most biased person on earth, and sees himself as a completely different person than he is..alot of people who take the test will often just choose who they want themselves to be...this used to be me a few years ago.. i tested isfp, which is completely not me.. i just figured that, because im a good artist, i cant be a logical, unemotional person. i have emotion, i just dnt act like a retard and get dramatic like my mother ..i dnt know what she is. im not even a serious artist i can just draw good and am creative..

I draw good too. I have considered that art is enitirely based on emotion, but now I'm not so sure. I think it is about expressing something that words cannot. I usually draw in abstract cubism. I really need to upload some of my stuff to the internet; some people might enjoy it.

Yes, I know some people may do that... but it doesn't make the test inaccurate. I've noticed that people are incredibly vain and don't like to notice the [perceived] flaws they have. It is the peoples faults. There is no system which can be devised which man cannot corrupt or otherwise alter.

By the way... nothing wrong with being a logical, unemotional person.

 

[DesertSmeagle]

maybe ur right about the expression of emotion things..because i dnt feel much emotion my art is friggin weird surreal stuff...i dnt know..but ya i like to doodle the cubism stuff to when i was at school or somethin...and ya people screw up alot of stuff.like personality tests. haha.. o well...people need to get real