C.Hecker88
Lily of the Valley
Extra points for giving a situation where this has to take place.
Can you elaborate I would contribute but I am not sure were you wish to go with this.
It's funny how Chad votes for his own personality-type. Anyhow, it made me vote too. I've voted INTP. No particular reason.
C.Hecker88, I don't think you are an INTP either.
I've voted INTP.
It's funny how Chad votes for his own personality-type. Anyhow, it made me vote too. I've voted INTP. No particular reason.
C.Hecker88, I don't think you are an INTP either.
People voting for ESTJ are clearly thinking with their feels.
ESFx
Because I want some peace and quiet.
ENTJ has more potential to cause evil and/or stomp on people for their own gain.
Edit: While I didn't vote, for me surely it would be one of the introverted feeler groups.
You wouldn't want that vote, since we are one of the rare types. Even if all the INTPs voted against the same type, the more common types would have given more votes against INTPs
You wouldn't want that vote, since we are one of the rare types. Even if all the INTPs voted against the same type, the more common types would have given more votes against INTPs
We could use this thread to better understand the utility of the different types. I voted INFJ because I don't understand what they bring to the table.
-Duxwing
Well... What can INFJ's do?
-Duxwing
How dare you guys say my dad should be taken care of.![]()
They can fuck you up.![]()
Possible Career Paths for the INFJ:
Clergy / Religious Work
Teachers
Medical Doctors / Dentists
Alternative Health Care Practitioners, i.e. Chiropractor, Reflexologist Psychologists
Psychiatrists
Counselors and Social Workers
Musicians and Artists
Photographers
Child Care / Early Childhood Development
We could use this thread to better understand the utility of the different types. I voted INFJ because I don't understand what they bring to the table.
-Duxwing
Well... What can INFJ's do?
-Duxwing
Agreed.
They are rare for a reason.
Taking your question literally, they can do everything, since someone is obviously not bound to a predetermined fate because of some classification system
Taking your question the way you intended:
I've spent enough time on this forum to give a general sense of my personality to you all, especially those that I often find myself in debates with *cough, cough @Duxwing *
Since you've asked for a more abstract definition of INFJ, I will attempt to provide it, using myself as an example.
Lead function is Ni. This is coincidentally the most difficult for me to explain, probably because I use it so much and it's so ingrained in my thought processes, I have a hard time distinguishing everything it encompasses. Essentially, I come up with answers sporadically, often times with little to no evidence to support them. This, however, does not mean that I give an answer and leave it at that; quite to the contrary! I am very inquisitive and detailed when something interests me, and although I often times (read: always) seem to enter a debate or ask a question with a preconceived idea, it most certainly does not mean that I am stubborn or irrational. Although it's sometimes difficult to explain my reasoning for doing something (which sometimes leaves me wondering why the hell I did something) all of my decisions and thoughts come from myself and myself only. I guess you would say that I rarely do something against my better judgement.
Fe is the supporting function. Personally, this is the function that I need to work on voicing more. None of my family are feelers (or at least they don't act like it). So, that and the fact that I was nerdy and shy as a child led to me never being able to express Fe very well to another person, despite it being my supporting function. This is why I still to this day rely so heavily on Ni; I had to make up for the lack of external feeling by expressing feelings inside my head, externally (if that makes sense). Thus, I have some INTP tendencies (from a forced Fi) despite not using Ne (or any other of the INTP functions, tbh) very efficiently. So, I can't really elaborate here on a personal note, since it's been difficult for me to use this. Surely you're aware of the primary basis of functions though. Coincidentally, this function is the sole reason I am still not sure of my type. I consider myself to be a somewhat abnormal representation of INFJs (or possibly an accurate representation of one who didn't receive enough cuddles as a child: apparently Hitler, Leon Trotsky, and Osama Bin Laden are all INFJs gone wrong [among others]).
Kind of interesting:http://www.celebritytypes.com/infj.php
And useful: http://www.timeenoughforlove.org/Functions.htm
Next function is Ti. Ti and Ni are my two favorite functions (thus the username), and I feel as though they easily go hand in hand when thoroughly evaluating a concept. Ti essentially takes the concepts understood by our perception of them (the "big picture" if you will) and assorts them in a logical fashion. Instead of systematizing through facts and hard logic, I systematize through my personal understanding of the concept. I've often times been called "humble" and I believe this function is the reason why. Because I spend a lot of my time analyzing the concepts I've been given in my head, my opinions are usually heartfelt and actually what I mean. This coupled with common etiquette means that I usually downplay most of my accomplishments because I'm viewing them on the large scale of things. My morals are a finely-tuned collection of ideas that I've garnered over my brief existence on this planet. You can see, then, how an overused Ni and a strong Ti lead me to spend a lot of time in my own head, constantly changing and adding to my collection of personal ideas, experiences and morals.
Last is Se. Pretty straightforward here. I see, I do. I don't necessarily scan my brain for something similar, I simply assess the situation and do what I think would work. This means that many times my solutions can be creative and inventive, but it also means my ideas could be completely stupid and illogical since I base most of my decisions off of intuition and not logic.
Mix all this together and you have a person that is a big pit of complex and misunderstood emotions (by others) that governs decisions based on their ideas of concepts and their gut instincts. This explains why sometimes their actions can be both morally and logically flawed yet sensical to the INFJ and honestly in an effort to improve the situation (case in point: Hitler). You can read whatever you like about where an INFJ would flourish, but if put in the right situation, an INFJ can either flourish or flounder in just about any situation, if they are legitimately interested in the topic.
This:http://www.personalitypage.com/html/INFJ_car.html
may prove to be useful (the descriptive part). I would add that in the right situation, an INFJ can be an extremely influential and powerful leader, if enough people are behind them. Positions of power may or may not be a good idea for an INFJ as their actions can be so streaky.
So you build a castle of intuition on a foundation of logic-adjusted emotion adjusted in order manifest your heartfelt ideals in concrete reality?
-Duxwing
So you build a castle of intuition on a foundation of logic-adjusted emotion adjusted in order manifest your heartfelt ideals in concrete reality?
-Duxwing
Duxwing, I hope you are being a troll. If not, your ignorance is astonishing.
I build a castle of logic-adjusted emotion based on a foundation of intuition in order to manifest my heartfelt ideals in not-so concrete reality.
Unless that reality is literally concrete, in which reality = concrete.
What is this not-so-concrete reality?
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.I personally believe that nothing exists (or at least that our understanding of reality is far from accurate).
I'm probably in the minority here, though.
*Catches brick*
I'll have you know I played several years of little league.
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
I personally believe that nothing exists (or at least that our understanding of reality is far from accurate).
I'm probably in the minority here, though.
*Catches brick*
I'll have you know I played several years of little league.
The remark was made simply for shitz and gigz. Sometimes I like to sound crazy on purpose. Then I have to decide whether or not I actually believe what I just wrote. The jury is still out."Concrete reality" is just philosophical shorthand for, " 'reality,' were it to exist as described by monism, physicalism, materialism, reductionism, determinism, and the latest theories from the sciences derived therefrom". I know that we can't prove anything, much less reality, but we all seem to be sharing a very predictable hallucination, and its observed behavior can be modelled by science. Ergo, in philosophical shorthand I write "concrete reality".
I lol'ed at thisBut if you really want to get technical, Mr. PhilosophyBacksassPants,I'll reword my question: Do you seek to affect in the 'internal' or 'external' portion of your hallucinatory experience, where "internal" and "external" refer to those portions of the experience that you believe to be part of your Self and not part of your Self, respectively?
Quite an interesting way to test your hypothesis.The remark was made simply for shitz and gigz. Sometimes I like to sound crazy on purpose. Then I have to decide whether or not I actually believe what I just wrote. The jury is still out.![]()
I lol'ed at this![]()
The remark was made simply for shitz and gigz. Sometimes I like to sound crazy on purpose. Then I have to decide whether or not I actually believe what I just wrote. The jury is still out.![]()
I would build a castle out of concrete. TAKE THAT intuitittititties!
Also, vote to off the ESTJs.
Honestly, they suck. Same with ISTJs.
Also also, regarding INFJs. What's the problem again? They should stay.
Ni is probably the most powerful cognitive function of all. TiNe doesn't stand a chance when up against Ni in a battle of ... N
You just wiped out your common ground between INTP and INTJ, meaning you likely have just made two powerful enemies, INTP nation. In fact, you have 3 powerful enemies, because I believe ISTPs would come to the aid of the INxJ.
But who would manage the copy machine replacement team at Goldman Sachs? Who would have the relentless toughness to train policemen, firefighters, EMTs, and soldiers? The ESTJ, though rough and tough, is essential to the maintenance of order in society.
The INFJ, on the other hand... I don't really know what they do that other types can't do better. Maybe psychology and counseling?
Sure, of course, but NiFe doesn't stand a chance in a battle of SeTi, either. We're comparing apples to oranges. As for Ni being the most "powerful," I don't know enough to debate that point, so I reject yours out of hand as witchcraft and sorcery.
BURN THE WITCH!
Don't forget the ISFJ's. They're legion, and according to Pod'Lair, can bring the might of Goldman Sachs upon the heads of their opponents. So there!
-Duxwing
Meh,
where to start?
ESTJs ... training policemen, where does Si fit in all of this? Unnecessary monies spent on nostalgia, honour, badges, uniforms, graduation ceremonies, brass, caps, ... they're basically peacocks. A grim nod and solemn eye contact is all the social exchange they need to know, just "know" that they're doing things "the right way"...![]()
What's wrong with calling upon the ENTJs for tasks like this?
INFJs, what do they do that is better than any other type? They see the bullshit in other people. We (Ti-doms) NEEEEED THEM for their Fe. Just because you want to throw down a hug and a cookie to every mfucker who feels sad doesn't mean you have "integrated" your Fe to some advanced level. It means you are WEAK.
Next point, apples to apples bitch. I said Ni-doms will win the battle of intuition every time. Call it sorcery, I call it PROPHECY.
Finally, ISFJs... why not them you ask??... well i'll tell you why. ISFJs are just INTPs who are even more gay. SiFe is some pretty homo shit. I'll take NiFe any day.
Besides, I was saying that ISTPs and INFJs are the "missing link" between INTPs and INTJs (the latter clearly being superior). If you choose to take out the INFJs, you have NO IDEA what could happen when the INTJs hear about it.