Am I an INTP or an INTJ?

[Andropov]

Both descriptions fit me equally well. Even though I'm disorganized and my room is messy and all that, I identify really strongly with "Ni", introverted intuition. I'd say it's even stronger than my Ti. If I would rate my top four functions, they'd be Ni, Ti, Ne, and Fi. I'm very in tune with other people's thoughts and emotions, and am very sensitive to pretentiousness and people acting in "embarrassing" ways, trying too hard to do something or appear a certain way. Like, I get pretty irritated whenever I see someone change their font in a post or use inappropriately complex vocabulary to appear unique or intelligent, know what I mean? This is sort of difficult to explain if you don't know what I mean already. A lot of INTJs I know have this trait too, not so much the INTPs. Still, I'm extremely disorganized. There's food on my desk that's been here for days. I don't really care though, I mean, as long as it's functional, it's not a problem. I'm also somewhat indecisive. So what am I? I realize this is sort of pointless since MBTI is just a model and asking what type I am is like wondering whether or not I'm a "hard worker" or not, as if those were the only options. Know what I mean? I'm tired so this didn't turn out as eloquent as I'd like it to be, but whatever. So what am I?

 

[EyeSeeCold]

I'm curious... If you know what intjs are like why are you confused about being one?

 

[Andropov]

Also I like INTJ humor a lot more than INTP humor. By INTP humor I mean something like 4chan or math jokes and family guy, things like that, and by INTJ humor I mean something like the Tim and Eric Awesome Show and Louie. The best example of INTP vs INTJ humor would be 4chan (INTP) and FYAD (INTJ) which is a pretty low-key forum on Something Awful (The rest of Something Awful is also a good example of INTP humor)

 

[Andropov]

I'm curious... If you know what intjs are like why are you confused about being one?

Because I don't know if I am one or not. I know INTJs behave like X and INTPs behave like Y, but I don't know whether I behave like X or Y, know what I mean?

 

[EyeSeeCold]

Yea. Do some more introspection.

Also I like INTJ humor a lot more than INTP humor. By INTP humor I mean something like 4chan or math jokes and family guy, things like that, and by INTJ humor I mean something like the Tim and Eric Awesome Show and Louie. The best example of INTP vs INTJ humor would be 4chan (INTP) and FYAD (INTJ) which is a pretty low-key forum on Something Awful (The rest of Something Awful is also a good example of INTP humor)

? misconceptions galore

 

[Andropov]

Saying "misconceptions galore" is pretty INTP and a good example of what I'm talking about. It's hard to define and articulate, but there's a clear distinction in my mind.

 

[CoryJames]

I think you need to take a big step back, a deep breath, and then begin a marathon of chronic masturbation culminating in genital pain to such a degree that you'll never again accumulate enough free time to attempt to definitively classify the humour of Jungian psychological types as part of a larger attempt to pigeonhole yourself into one of them.

 

[Jesse]

What Cory said. Also that's the problem with these things. I could read most of these descriptions and identify with them depending on how I feel about myself.

 

[Fukyo]

You need to lurk moar.

 

[ProxyAmenRa]

I think you need to take a big step back, a deep breath, and then begin a marathon of chronic masturbation culminating in genital pain to such a degree that you'll never again accumulate enough free time to attempt to definitively classify the humour of Jungian psychological types as part of a larger attempt to pigeonhole yourself into one of them.

You are a really creative individual. I'm laughing my as off.

 

[Andropov]

I think you need to take a big step back, a deep breath, and then begin a marathon of chronic masturbation culminating in genital pain to such a degree that you'll never again accumulate enough free time to attempt to definitively classify the humour of Jungian psychological types as part of a larger attempt to pigeonhole yourself into one of them.

Also an example of INTP humor.

 

[Anthile]

There is no such thing as INTP humour.

Spoiler

And if there was, it would look like this:

 

[Bird]

You're an ESTJ.


-- really though, if you've properly
done your research you should know
that no one fits a type completely.


I don't really think you're an ESTJ,
I just think you're being silly.


And just because you like something
does not mean you are necessarily
that which you like.


For example; I love the way INTP logic
generally works. But this does not make
me an INTP.

 

[Meer]

I'm going to make an effort to use more INTJ humour from now on.

You can't just accept that you're somewhere in between? Maybe you are INTJ. right?

 

[Artsu Tharaz]

You're using some pretty bad criteria here. Messy desk and not liking 4chan?

Look at functions again, read more INTP/INTJ profiles and see if any really pop out at you. Ni Ti Ne Fi doesn't really identify you as anything, so if you can't clearly identify a Ti Ne or Ni Te combination, then maybe you just don't fit either. Keep looking around, introspecting and all that.

 

[BigApplePi]

I think you need to take a big step back, a deep breath, and then begin a marathon of chronic masturbation culminating in genital pain to such a degree that you'll never again accumulate enough free time to attempt to definitively classify the humour of Jungian psychological types as part of a larger attempt to pigeonhole yourself into one of them.

Take careful note of what CoryJames has to say so you can safely ignore it.

 

[BigApplePi]

Both descriptions fit me equally well. Even though I'm disorganized and my room is messy and all that, I identify really strongly with "Ni", introverted intuition. I'd say it's even stronger than my Ti. If I would rate my top four functions, they'd be Ni, Ti, Ne, and Fi. I'm very in tune with other people's thoughts and emotions, and am very sensitive to pretentiousness and people acting in "embarrassing" ways, trying too hard to do something or appear a certain way. Like, I get pretty irritated whenever I see someone change their font in a post or use inappropriately complex vocabulary to appear unique or intelligent, know what I mean? This is sort of difficult to explain if you don't know what I mean already. A lot of INTJs I know have this trait too, not so much the INTPs. Still, I'm extremely disorganized. There's food on my desk that's been here for days. I don't really care though, I mean, as long as it's functional, it's not a problem. I'm also somewhat indecisive. So what am I? I realize this is sort of pointless since MBTI is just a model and asking what type I am is like wondering whether or not I'm a "hard worker" or not, as if those were the only options. Know what I mean? I'm tired so this didn't turn out as eloquent as I'd like it to be, but whatever. So what am I?

Need more evidence of Ni and Fi. You appear to be doing a lot of Ti and Ne but I could be rong.

 

[Stoic Beverage]

If you really want to limit yourself to one MBTI type, it may well be inaccurate. But, if you have to, head over to mypersonality.info.

 

[Ska]

Getting an INFJ vibe...perhaps that's why you're confused, as you'd have both Ni and Ti.

Anyways, I think the best first step would be to determine whether or not you have Ni. Ni types get visions that seem to be a unique aspect of Ni (as compared to "flashes" with Ne - at least that's how I would describe them). Do you feel like you always need to have a plan and be prepared? What do you think about being spontaneous? How about being the center of attention? Do you daydream often?

If I was of no help, try checking out this page and seeing what functions you identify the most. Keep in mind that your functions have to follow a certain order.

INTJs have these functions in this order: Ni, Te, Fi, Se
INTPs: Ti, Ne, Si, Fe
INFJs: Ni, Fe, Ti, Se

 

[EyeSeeCold]

And just because you like something
does not mean you are necessarily
that which you like.


For example; I love the way INTP logic
generally works. But this does not make
me an INTP.

Yes it does, just accept that you're one of us already.

 

[Adymus]

-- really though, if you've properly
done your research you should know
that no one fits a type completely.

Correction, everyone fits their type completely, they have no choice but to. What people do not fit into is the limited and narrow paradigms by which you MBTI and/or Socionics people use to define each type. It is human understanding that is limited, not the natural phenomenon itself.

Saying "misconceptions galore" is pretty INTP and a good example of what I'm talking about. It's hard to define and articulate, but there's a clear distinction in my mind.

No offense there New-Jack, but you don't have a damn clue what it means to be "pretty INTP."
Not to mention, in 4chan, that is Jaded Ni dom humor you are seeing, not INTP humor, the Ni-Fe "anger against the man" in the place is palpable, there is no question why /b/tards are so obsessed with revolution and social discord and upheaval.

 

[CoryJames]

Appliepie is mad..

 

[BigApplePi]

Correction, everyone fits their type completely, they have no choice but to.

I am an admirer of your confidence when it comes to typology ... something I'm nearly totally at sea with.

Not to mention, in 4chan, that is Jaded Ni dom humor you are seeing, not INTP humor, the Ni-Fe "anger against the man" in the place is palpable,

Ni fits, but did you mean Fi not Fe? I always have trouble with this. Any elaboration?

 

[EyeSeeCold]

I am an admirer of your confidence arrogance* when it comes to typology ... something I'm nearly totally at sea with.
Ni fits, but did you mean Fi not Fe? I always have trouble with this. Any elaboration?

*Fixed :3

 

[Adymus]

I am an admirer of your confidence when it comes to typology ... something I'm nearly totally at sea with.
Ni fits, but did you mean Fi not Fe? I always have trouble with this. Any elaboration?

No, I mean Ni-Fe.


As a dominant worldview type, the Ni-dom is going to have an innate drive to bring their worldview into existence. In the case of an INFJ, it will be a speculative future visionary worldview (Ni) that is set in the dynamics of human or living creature interaction (Fe). Although they are not Fe dominants, so they will value their own inner speculation of how a community should be, as opposed to values the community they are currently in. This creates a deep frustration at the fact that they are constantly being reminded of, and impinged upon (Se polar) by an imperfect world. Hence the revolutionary drive that I talked about, they carve out their own communities that work the way they prefer out of the world, and sometimes, these communities that they carve out gain power and revolt against the mainstream community, making theirs the new mainstream. And the cycle begins anew.

*Fixed :3

I calls it as I sees it. If that makes me arrogant, I'll be arrogant.

You don't see me Bawwing when you are on one of your "You can't comprehend the complexity and glory of Socionics" tirades.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

Eh, I've been trying to be less assertive and more constructive lately. My past actions were selfish.

 

[BigApplePi]

No, I mean Ni-Fe.

As a dominant worldview type, the Ni-dom is going to have an innate drive to bring their worldview into existence. In the case of an INFJ, it will be a speculative future visionary worldview (Ni) that is set in the dynamics of human or living creature interaction (Fe). Although they are not Fe dominants, so they will value their own inner speculation of how a community should be, as opposed to values the community they are currently in. This creates a deep frustration at the fact that they are constantly being reminded of, and impinged upon (Se polar) by an imperfect world. Hence the revolutionary drive that I talked about, they carve out their own communities that work the way they prefer out of the world, and sometimes, these communities that they carve out gain power and revolt against the mainstream community, making theirs the new mainstream. And the cycle begins anew.

I made an error. You were talking INFJ and that's right: Ni-Fe. I was looking at the thread title: INTJ which was not what you were talking about.

 

[Andropov]

There's nothing Ni about 4chan at all. The majority of the website's visitors are teenagers who do nothing but spout boring, uninspired memes and start the same exact threads over and over again. It stopped being remotely funny a long time ago. It's also hilarious that they paint this image of themselves as some kind of badasses with the whole "Anonymous" business. It's so forced and embarrassing that it's just not funny anymore.

What I mean by Ni humor is something like this: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3368331

(NSWF)

It's possible that you won't be able to see it because you have to register, but it's pretty much random at who they allow and who they don't to view without an account.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

[social ineptitude]INTPs -------> more presence and assertiveness

[social ineptitude]INTJs -------> more forgiving and cheerful

 

[Trebuchet]

There is no such thing as INTP humour.

Grrrrr.

Spoiler

And if there was, it would look like this:

That was actually pretty funny.

I am not familiar with any of the examples of INTP or INTJ humor listed here, and I've never tried 4chan, but my INTJ husband and I laugh at the same things. The late great Leslie Nielsen was just plain funny, no matter what MBTI type you are. Dodgeball was stupid, but really funny, and so is most of xkcd. The Onion is sometimes funny, and we usually agree on when. There isn't a difference I've seen between INTJ and INTP humor. Ni-Fe and all that aside, there is a lot in common between the two types.

The main difference between INTP and INTJ that I have noticed (by being around several of each for many years) is that INTJs always write down lists of things to do, which they do in order and then check them off, and they also plan and research forever before a purchase. INTPs jump right in without bothering with lists, and only plan and research until it seems likely they have a good enough answer. Each one thinks it is a miracle that the other can get anything done at all.

 

[Andropov]

I don't write anything down but I do research (to buy things) a lot.

 

[echoplex]

I don't think I'd worry about what's Ni-humor, or 'what an INTP would say', or any of that. I don't think the idea of typology is really to describe behavior, but the underlying reasons for behavior. Surely there is a reasonable explanation for why anyone might enjoy 4chan, or Tim and Eric, or basketball, or baking cakes, or whatever, regardless of type.

I think it's far more useful to look for patterns. Not so much patterns of action (as in "he always says that!" or "I watch Futurama alot") but patterns of thought, of motivation, of priority. You have to ask yourself where your mind tends to gravitate when given no obvious reason to do so. Not specific things you gravitate towards, but rather the relationships between them and the commonalities some of these things share. Also look at what drains you, what you have to 'recover' from, as opposed to what creates a sense of momentum.

I'd also avoid assumptions like how 'INTJs are organized'. Are they really? If anything, I'd say ISxJs are more likely to have an organized desk/room, as they are likely more aware of concrete details, but even then, some may have reasons not to care about keeping certain things neat. Just because the process that often leads to neatness (or whatever) is present doesn't mean neatness (...) will result. I'd actually say that IxxJ types are usually only neat about things deemed important to them. While ExxJ types are more likely to be neat because others demand/want it, or some other externally-derived reason.

I'd take all this with a grain of salt. I'm still trying to figure this stuff out myself. I'd recommend reading more on the subject. This thread might help, as it contains many things I've found helpful/interesting.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

+1

There is too much focus on the what and not the why and how.

 

[Trebuchet]

I don't write anything down but I do research (to buy things) a lot.

But do you research endlessly, possibly using that research to procrastinate making a decision? Does your research take months to years? Do you make lists of pros and cons or maybe a detailed cost analysis with a plan for replacement in 3.5 years? That's how my INTJ friends are. No one will ever accuse them of making a hasty decision, and if it goes wrong, well, it just better not go wrong, that's all.

The INTPs I know, including me, certainly don't skip research. That can be fun and it is certainly useful. We write down enough that it is easy to keep track of stuff, and research enough that decisions are sound, risk is acceptable, and costs are within budget. It doesn't take months or years, except for life decisions like getting married, buying a house, or having a baby. Most things can go awry without it being the end of the world.

This is all anecdotal, of course.

(Maybe I know unusual INTJs, but I'm not exaggerating about research taking months or years. In one case, replacing a TV is now into year three of research. I'll admit that one is pretty extreme.)

 

[EyeSeeCold]

I say INTP, of course I could be wrong as we are basing this off of situational reactions to circumstances and not psychoanalysis.

Could you describe the way you think? Your behavior when you are alone? How do take in new information and how do you come to conclusions about this information?

 

[terraxceles]

INTP humour ---> random, surreal humour (very similar to INFP humour).
INTJ humour ---> satirical, "I'm better than you" humour that emphasizes the INTJ's intelligence, either directly or indirectly.
INFJ humour ---> satrirical, foxhole humour that emphazises the INFJ's flaws and empathy (unless they're purposely being mean).

kind of.

Fun fact: several boards on 4chan had MBTI threads some time ago. While I didn't get the chance to read all of them, /sci/ and /mu/ were entirely made up of INTJs and INTPs with a few occasional INFJs and INFPs.

 

[Trebuchet]

INTP humour ---> random, surreal humour (very similar to INFP humour).

I don't completely agree with this. I had an INTP coworker who was a master of put-downs and cruel pranks. He could do word play and surrealism, but mostly he liked insulting people's intelligence or gullibility. My dad is INTP, and he likes telling actual jokes and watching Beavis and Butthead, and keeping it light-hearted. My excellent INTP friend likes witty repartee, and is very good at it. I definitely like surrealism and word play, especially with unexpected juxtapositions. So I've seen INTPs indulge in a variety of humorous styles, some of which went unappreciated by other INTPs. I've even seen that on this forum, in cases where people didn't understand that someone was joking.

INTJ humour ---> satirical, "I'm better than you" humour that emphasizes the INTJ's intelligence, either directly or indirectly.

Again, I can't agree completely. My INTJ friends and family are downright genteel. They certainly do feel superior to others, but I've never seen any of them insult anyone to their face, and only occasionally undercut someone to show off their superiority. The ones I know have exquisite manners, a quality I find very charming. Of course, that is why I chose them as friends. I'm sure there are other INTJs who aren't like that at all.

As for their humor, the ones I know like seeing connections between things, and making call-backs to earlier jokes or conversations. One friend likes making everything sound sinister through careful word choice and tone, which I find hilarious. He also makes endless puns. My husband has a great sense of the ridiculous. They and several others enjoy incorporating a vast knowledge of history into humor, and if you don't know the reference to the person or battle or quote or whatever, you won't even know they are joking.

Since just about everyone I know is involved in technology, engineering, math, computer science, etc., I think a lot of the style of humor for the people I know comes from their education and/or career choice, rather than MBTI. I have an ESTJ friend with a doctorate in astrophysics, and her humor matches mine rather closely.

 

[Andropov]

INTP humour ---> random, surreal humour (very similar to INFP humour).
INTJ humour ---> satirical, "I'm better than you" humour that emphasizes the INTJ's intelligence, either directly or indirectly.

This is completely wrong. Check out the links to FYAD I posted before for a better understanding of what I mean by "INTJ" humor.

 

[Adymus]

This is completely wrong. Check out the links to FYAD I posted before for a better understanding of what I mean by "INTJ" humor.

Dude.

None of the types have just one style of humor, there are trends that can be seen, but you can't just pick one very specific style of humor for each type and say that is all they do and/or laugh at.

 

[TheHmmmm]

Also I like INTJ humor a lot more than INTP humor. By INTP humor I mean something like 4chan or math jokes and family guy, things like that, and by INTJ humor I mean something like the Tim and Eric Awesome Show and Louie. The best example of INTP vs INTJ humor would be 4chan (INTP) and FYAD (INTJ) which is a pretty low-key forum on Something Awful (The rest of Something Awful is also a good example of INTP humor)

Nonsense, pidgeonholing types into humor based on TV shows? Ridiculous. I'm an INTJ who hates Tim and Eric, loves family guy, and can laugh about a wide variety of things.

Humor has almost nothing to do with cognitive functions, which you should look up.

But if you were an INTJ, you'd get it already
/joke.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

I didn't want to say anything but I associate Family Guy and 4chan with ENTPs and INTJs, so the stereotypes would be consistent(of course this is one member posting, but still).

Regardless, I do think there is a trend, but the view taken here is largely restricted and thus subject to misconception.

 

[terraxceles]

I don't completely agree with this. I had an INTP coworker who was a master of put-downs and cruel pranks. He could do word play and surrealism, but mostly he liked insulting people's intelligence or gullibility. My dad is INTP, and he likes telling actual jokes and watching Beavis and Butthead, and keeping it light-hearted. My excellent INTP friend likes witty repartee, and is very good at it. I definitely like surrealism and word play, especially with unexpected juxtapositions. So I've seen INTPs indulge in a variety of humorous styles, some of which went unappreciated by other INTPs. I've even seen that on this forum, in cases where people didn't understand that someone was joking.

I hope you realize I wasn't entirely serious My classification was intentionally restrictive.

I don't think humour is strictly type-specific, but there are certain common threads. For instance, the Ne-types I know (INFP, INTP, ENFP) have a tendency to be surreal and often go on lengthy "what if?" monologues where the punchline is a funny hypothetical situation, something other types in my experience don't do often. Now I don't mean to imply this is the only type of humour INTPs employ, it's just one of the many and one I've encountered most often!

Also...

As for their humor, the ones I know like seeing connections between things, and making call-backs to earlier jokes or conversations. One friend likes making everything sound sinister through careful word choice and tone, which I find hilarious. He also makes endless puns. My husband has a great sense of the ridiculous. They and several others enjoy incorporating a vast knowledge of history into humor, and if you don't know the reference to the person or battle or quote or whatever, you won't even know they are joking.

This sounds like an INTJ I know, though I wouldn't call any of it "INTJ humour".

I'm sure there's no comprehensive way to classify humour into typology, but there are perhaps certain tendencies which relate to how cognitive functions manifest themselves in a type, much like how any pattern of behavior would relate to cognitive functions. If we've already gone as far as [such and such type] is most likely to react in [such and such way] in a given situation, then humour should naturally follow, since a lot of it is instinctive.

Am I making any sense?

 

[Trebuchet]

I hope you realize I wasn't entirely serious My classification was intentionally restrictive.

Well, I didn't think you were trying to be definitional, certainly. Humor isn't simple, and of course I assumed you knew that. But sometimes I can't just leave a statement alone. No offense meant.

This sounds like an INTJ I know, though I wouldn't call any of it "INTJ humour".

I don't know if I would either. I do think INTJs are funny; they also tend to be highly original.

I'm sure there's no comprehensive way to classify humour into typology, but there are perhaps certain tendencies which relate to how cognitive functions manifest themselves in a type, much like how any pattern of behavior would relate to cognitive functions. If we've already gone as far as [such and such type] is most likely to react in [such and such way] in a given situation, then humour should naturally follow, since a lot of it is instinctive.

Am I making any sense?

Oh sure. And matching humor to MBTI types is a pretty interesting idea to explore. Given a certain style of humor, what are the different ways people will react to it? I stand by my statement about Leslie Nielsen, but maybe different types get different things out of "Airplane!" or "Police Squad"? I know many people of all kinds who like P.D.Q. Bach, but I don't know if they all like the same thing. I like this question.

Am I making sense?

 

[Jchazard]

I don't write anything down but I do research (to buy things) a lot.

Definitely strong Ne as you're trying to consider all the possibilities. Other than that your description of Fi is off and seemsto deal more with pet peeves than good vs bad or taste in expression. Therefore I'd assume you're ENTP judging by how much you're posting. But either way I seriously doubt you're INTJ.

EDIT: Actually, considering your parents both have Ne and Fi I'd say you're ENFP.

 

[Andropov]

I'm eannagram 5w4, by the way.

 

[Andropov]

Basically, I'm a lot more "intuitive" than most other INTPs, although my Te is weak. My types would be Ni and Ti if that would make sense, which it doesn't. What am I?

 

[nyaneko]

Google it. Other forums has discussed about this. There are some good replies.

"There have been lengthy posts about this before, but basically I think it comes down to a difference in priority. An INTP is going to derive his or her sense of accomplishment differently than an INTJ. For the the INTJ, whom asks herself, "what if, and how will it come to pass" accomplishment comes in the form of potential realized in the external, material world. For the INTP, whom asks himself, "What, is? Why is it? How does it work?, and What does it mean?", accomplishment is synonymous with comprehension. Knowledge is the only metric of life progress. For an INTP, to understand is to grow, to move forward. Where an INTJ needs closure from external feedback, we need closure from internal feedback. Where an INTJ needs to make things happen, we need to solve puzzles."

 

[Dreamweaver]

You know, at the end of the day, INTP's are just more interested in further exploring their ongoing theories about the universe, whereas INTJ's prefer to do something pragmatic for a change to get their head out of their bu... the clouds. INTJ's are prone to desire empirical proof too and put value behind efficiency. INTP's are fine with concepts without needing external validation as much and don't necessarily hurry up to book more practical results, but they do focus on consistency and continuity.

That's my interpretation of it at least.

 

[Magnetosphere]

There is no such thing as INTP humour.

Spoiler

And if there was, it would look like this:

I couldn't care less about the debate, I just wanted to say that this made me laugh out loud. I'm not entirely sure why, there's just something funny about... Yeah. You know.

People need to learn to take MBTI classifications less seriously. If you can't figure out if you're an INTP or INTJ, who cares? We all have more important things to worry about than whether or not we're a J or a P.

This is completely wrong. Check out the links to FYAD I posted before for a better understanding of what I mean by "INTJ" humor.

Wait. Because his interpretation of the humor of different typologies doesn't coincide or mesh well with your interpretation, he's wrong? I'm not following you, dog.

I realized I just contradicted myself, in that I earlier professed not caring about this debate. As I have edited these few paragraphs in, obviously I do, to some extent. However, upon further review, I've realized that all of your (OP's) arguments are illogical and way too opinion-based for me to even bother trying to refute.

Maybe there's something wrong with me, but I like it when people provide evidence substantiating their claims.

 

[BigApplePi]

Don't dare.

Spoiler

What makes you people think you're wrong? I am rong. You are rite. Step outside if you want to make something out of it. You have every right to your opinion. I have no rights at all and I can prove it. Just because you don't believe what you believe can stand up to scrutiny doesn't mean what I believe will stand up to scrutiny. Scrutinize. Scrutinize. Scurtinize. It's getting more inscrutable.

"I am not a J" Nixon claimed. I'm putting on my PJ's and going to bed now. Don't wait up for me.