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Am I an INTP or an INTJ?

fduniho

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Also I like INTJ humor a lot more than INTP humor. By INTP humor I mean something like 4chan or math jokes and family guy, things like that, and by INTJ humor I mean something like the Tim and Eric Awesome Show and Louie. The best example of INTP vs INTJ humor would be 4chan (INTP) and FYAD (INTJ) which is a pretty low-key forum on Something Awful (The rest of Something Awful is also a good example of INTP humor)

Aside from Family Guy, I'm not familiar with the examples you give. I find Family Guy funny, but I don't think of it as particularly illustrative of INTP humor. I enjoy many kinds of humor, provided by both INTPs and other types. If I were to identify some as particularly representative of INTP humor, I would single out Monty Python, MisterSharp, and Uncyclopedia. These tend to juxtapose a serious delivery with ridiculous, often absurd, content. One of the funniest, and perhaps underrated, comedians I've ever seen expresses this approach with his name: Yahoo Serious. His movie Young Einstein is the funniest movie I ever saw during the 20th century.
 

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I have no idea how Tim and Eric's Awesome Show Great Job is "INTJ humor".

Obviously I need to get my INTJ-certification redone to see where the standards fucking changed cuz that show is retarded.
 

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From what I have seen in your posts so far, you never hit me as either INTP or INTJ
I think a good step for you would be to re read the different classifications. In fact the more bagground research you do on these personality types, and find out what their primary function is etc, may help you find out what 'you are'

I would also second that it would be a good idea to do some lurking on the INTJ forum

Edit : As for humor, I hate Family guy.. well it has it's moments but there is much better stuff out there..
As mentioned by Fduniho; Monty Python.
ahh yes and Futurama.. I don't think I can find much that can challenge that one
 

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Yes, Futurama is awesome and seems more in the INTP vein than the Simpsons does.
 

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I have no idea how Tim and Eric's Awesome Show Great Job is "INTJ humor".

Obviously I need to get my INTJ-certification redone to see where the standards fucking changed cuz that show is retarded.

Your sense of humor isn't developed enough to "get" it.
 

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I do. You're just not intelligent enough to understand it.
 

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Anyone who has an anime avatar and thinks image macros are funny isn't intelligent.
 

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Andropov i know what you mean in some of your first posts, oh wait

^ i'm jealous of INTPf for having happy endings
 

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Andropov i know what you mean in some of your first posts, oh wait

^ i'm jealous of INTPf for having happy endings

If it's any consolation, it's more of a pseudo-happy ending
 

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More like boring ending.

yall r lame
 

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i agree with artsu, no huge flames happened.

this forum and my life both need more epic violence and explosions :storks:
 

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maybe increase our budget... somehow.

damn, I am somewhat late, but I too am not sure of my noble INTPness with all of its geek validity.

Obviously the statement above has be exaggerated.

I am an INTP/ISTP/INFP/ILI/ INTJ (Socionics)

I just like black forums so I can simply throw out words that don't really make much sense.

And humor, like music can't be classified with MBTI or Socionics. I like Family Guy,Big Bang Theory, and Top Gear at the same time.

I seek pure retarded cartoon shows, geek entity, and retarded outgoings for entertainment. Not very INTP is it your highness.

For some reason I feel as if I am rebel and I should be inclined to shout "rebel" after eating someones dog.

Now I feel like a troll. Ah shit...
 

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Anyone who has an anime avatar and thinks image macros are funny isn't intelligent.

well... I feel personally insulted by that first statement *sniff* ;) Well I won't lose any sleep over it.
 

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According to the myers briggs tests I am an INTJ. I think that the difference may be for me is that I would rather learn through a more tactical approach. Reading and looking up at the sky thinking about what things are is fascinating...but I feel I need more than that to grasp a concept. I would need to try to see it, feel it, take it apart etc. But then again some INTPs do this as well! So I think that there can be a difference between the two that is as fine as a piece of hair or nothing really at all!
 

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Christina. That last letter is either P or J. Somehow I think of J's as inclined to choose and favor a view. P's have trouble taking one because they just observe that view and can't favor it over the others. To stay somewhere in between might be unstable.
 

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Christina. That last letter is either P or J. Somehow I think of J's as inclined to choose and favor a view. P's have trouble taking one because they just observe that view and can't favor it over the others. To stay somewhere in between might be unstable.

Okay but I'm not sure what you mean by unstable. I'm sure that there are people in which both descriptions have fit them. I really don't think that there is a such thing as definite especially when it comes to behavior. What is P, and what is J??? Perceiving and Judging? What the hell is that supposed to mean? What it really comes down to is taking the time to get to know oneself. The test waters everything down and simplifies it, which can be a good thing and a bad thing. Both descriptions are so similar that I think you can totally be both just because I don't think that people have descriptions of them that are set in stone. I do a lot of things that would make me fit into the INTP description as well and I'm sure that I do things that fit probably the entire rainbow of these different categories of people behaviors. It's just more complex than that. It's got to be more complex than that because people are pretty freaken complicated...sometimes annoyingly so but still...
 

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Googled this:


http://www.socionics.com/articles/intjorintp.htm
by Sergei Ganin


INTjs and INTps can have very similar behaviour, interests and even appearance. However, when it comes to intertype relations there is a big difference between these two, because one's Dual is the other's Conflicting type. Also, two INTjs or two INTps can co-exist quite peacefully, whereas an INTj and an INTp do not make a very promising combination. Join any INTj discussion forum or mailing list and you can see this Quasi-identical tension for yourself. This is because there are many INTps among those INTjs.

Why do INTps test as INTjs? Because it is possible that some INTps actually do behave in such way that they could be mistaken for Judging types. The common perception of Perceiving types is as disorganised, unreliable and wavering. There are INTps out there that are, on the contrary, organised, reliable and unwavering or at least they may behave as such. As a result they often score as Js. But let's not forget that type is not about how you behave, it is about how your psyche is structured, which in return influences your behaviour in one way or another. Taking more tests or reading more type descriptions may not give an answer to the INTj/INTp question for the reasons explained above. The right way to distinguish between these two types is by making a comparison on a "molecular" level.

Let's take a look at INTj's main function - introverted thinking. That's right and this is not a mistake, in Socionics the functions are ordered differently for introvert types. So, INTjs are mainly interested in accumulating an understanding. They want to know why and what causes things happen the way they happen. They want to know and see the logic behind everything. If "it" does not contradict logic then "it" is right, otherwise "it" is wrong. INTps on the other hand seem to be logical too as their second strong function is extroverted thinking. However, if for INTjs it is about gaining understanding, for INTps it is about exercising their knowledge, and therefore they mostly concern themselves with known facts. Moreover, INTj's logic is their area of confidence and conservatism. This makes their logic fundamental, meaning once the rules are established, they can be applied anywhere. INTps logic is their area of creativity. This makes their logic circumstantial and unpredictable - the rules apply here but may not apply there.

The same goes for Intuition. INTp's main function is introverted intuition. Since introverted intuition is about internal wholeness or belief, this manifests itself in INTps being highly religious and spiritual people. It is also their area of confidence and conservatism and they will not welcome anything that could disturb that internal wholeness. And since you can believe in things that are not necessarily there or actually true, INTps criticise a lot. As for INTjs, their intuition is their second strong function, which is extroverted intuition. Extroverted intuition is about perspective and potential and because it is INTj's creative output, their "creations" could be very unexpected and original, often bearing a high potential for future development. So, combining two and two together, INTjs are in their element when involved with science, invention, innovation, discovery, theory, explanation, interpretation, philosophy etc. INTps are in their element when involved with business, enterprise, commerce, industry, trade, financial institutions, church etc.

Another comparison will be between Dual-seeking functions. INTps are looking out for extroverted sensing, INTjs are looking out for extroverted feeling. Since both functions are the subconscious functions, they are likely to influence the subconscious choices. INTps would want to go power driven, moneymaking, sometimes risky places, whereas INTjs would prefer a happy, cheerful and exciting surrounding.

The last comparison - "Hidden agenda". This is what people hide from other people, because it is very sensitive area of one's psyche. If the main function is like a geometric cone firmly standing on its base, the hidden agenda is like the same cone standing on its tip that one is trying to balance. For INTjs their introverted sensing is their nightmare. Introverted sensing is mainly about the body, its functions, sensory perceptions etc. The only way they can balance that cone is for them to be physically healthy and if this is not that important to you, you are most probably not INTj. INTps are also trying to balance this cone on its head when it comes to introverted feeling. Introverted feeling is love, affection, morality etc. It is important for an INTp to be involved with someone, to have an object of affection, to like people. If this doesn't concern you, you are probably a type other than INTp.

So if after all this you are still not sure whether you are INTj or INTp, maybe you are neither...
 

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Another comparison will be between Dual-seeking functions. INTps are looking out for extroverted sensing, INTjs are looking out for extroverted feeling. Since both functions are the subconscious functions, they are likely to influence the subconscious choices. INTps would want to go power driven, moneymaking, sometimes risky places, whereas INTjs would prefer a happy, cheerful and exciting surrounding.

:slashnew: really?
 

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No no no, you guys are making it way too complicated.

Are you awesome? Yes ---> INTJ
No----> INTP
 

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So this "Socionics" is different from MBTI? That can lead to confusion if they use the same words with different meanings.
 

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So this "Socionics" is different from MBTI? That can lead to confusion if they use the same words with different meanings.

Socionics is all wonky and stuff

INTP= Ni Te Si Fe

The description for a socionics INTP sounds a lot like an ISTJ.
 

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So I must've crossed a border I obviously shouldn't.
 

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Ok, I went through the internet and this time stayed clear of the heretics of the so called socionics and found very little convincing material on the subject. I found one good way to tell these types apart. Unlike the INTP, INTJ do not follow an idea as far as they possibly can, seeking only to understand it fully. INTJs are driven to come to conclusions about ideas.
 
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