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If there were not God, there would be no atheists. —G. K. CHESTERTON

If this is your God, he's not very impressive. He has so many psychological problems; he's so insecure. He de- mands worship every seven days. He goes out and creates faulty humans and then blames them for his own mis- takes. He's a pretty poor excuse for a Supreme Being. —GENE RODDENBERRY

The need for religion will end when man becomes sen- sible enough to govern himself. —FRANCISCO FERRER GUARDIA

I want nothing to do with any religion concerned with keeping the masses satisfied to live in hunger, filth and ignorance. I want nothing to do with any order, religious or otherwise, which does not teach people that they are capable of becoming happier and more civilized, on this earth, capable...

Every other sect suppos[es] itself in possession of all truth, and that those who differ are so far in the wrong; like a man traveling in foggy weather, those at some dis- tance before him on the road he sees wrapped up in the fog, as well as those behind him, and also the people in the fields...

Men will wrangle for religion; write for it; fight for it; die for it; any thing but—live for it. —CHARLES CALEB COLTON

Atheism only exists in respect to theism. Atheist don't greet each other with secret handshake " hey I identify as atheist". Only people who identify atheists are theists. Atheists are not aware of atheism unless THERE IS theism. Its kind of like blacks don't identify as black race, unless...

Why is this important? Words are irrelevant labels. Its the meaning behind words that is important. Super anything is just redundant word. Some people do, I don't. Depends, I believe in rearranges energy. Depends who you ask. Personally I think partly yes.

Sure, but what then makes the right definition of a thing? We probably don't disagree on many words if we are talking. Why would you not agree with my definition of spirit?

Right I already told you what it is.

I mean I cannot force you to discuss it, but you legit made the assertion. Without that I see lots of assertions.

Might be I don't know.

Spirit animates the inanimate. Things that have no spirit therefore don't have capacity to be sentient.

Please walk me through your logic that SPIRIT = GOD belief?

Not interested. Really doubt it.

@Black Rose generally learning is life long skill and we always have potential to learn. We can also learn better methods of learning. One problem in my age, that I noticed, is being wrong hurts more emotionally than when I was kid, or I perceive it as a bigger problem, so learning to feel...

Not really.

Well I cannot see the logic there to be honest. I can see it happen.

Kind of true tho. Opinions often come from assumptions we make about the world. I have seen people argue over a color of bag. One said its blue the other its green?

No I don't subscribe to Big Bang yet. Not enough science behind it imo.

That might change. For now its clear I can believe in whatever, I prefer proofs or evidence. When I claim x I make sure to claim things on level of belief or fact. To me fact is anything that can observe in some way, even if it happened outside of my experience provided I at least "could"...

Just FYI I did not call whatever you believe wrong, or schiz, I meant merely the concept. The implication being x must have some sort of agent. Overascribing agency is often linked to disease of mental health, but given psychiatrist still have not delineated how its possible to believe in x...

I do not subscribe to any creation myth. I leave the question of GOD and his nature open ended.

I get what you mean. There must be intent and some nice guy behind the act. I can see why that makes sense. Have you heard of Q from ST TNG? OK, perhaps that is the original meaning? Generally I grew up thinking as former atheist that atheist meant people were more rational and simply did not...

atheist = without god , you can actually be atheist believe in after life, just that it would not be God. A means without or NOT theism means having a God. You can believe all kinds of things while atheist. You can be atheist Christian for instance. You can be atheist voodoo priest etc.

Atheism is not a world view.

I do believe in life after death or something, but I don't care. Like why care about something like that, whats the point? Its after you are dead? Why even waste time with that idea?

Well I agree with Nietzsche this world is for the living, it does not concern me what happens afterwards.

I kind of think you are right and at the same time wrong. Let me explain. First of all when people are pessimistic about reforming education due to limitations we have now, that is legit concern. Problem here is we cannot afford to NOT alter education. Or to put simply the idea of labor has...

I believe Nietzsche was right in that men will outgrow their limitations one day, not sure when. In that sense he was extremely optimistic. In sense of seeking power and will I think he was bit too optimistic, as will to power, alone does not imply virtue.

ChatGPT will change education whether we like it or not.

Nihilism is very powerful message.

Loser standards, eliminate passive learning methods, don't teach to rote, but teach to understanding, reduce grading to once yearly instead of every fucking time you breath and move, don't berate or criticse kids just cause they don't get an A. Tell kids about the job market, industries...

I grew up in generation where knowing anything about computers made you an expert on computers. Generally just knowing how to turn it on and off was enough, and knowing how to click and double click was wizard level shit. Bonus points if you actually knew anything on the computer, then you were...

There is no such thing as mediocre, its a standard the emerges from the school desks and testing standards. Many people know for fact testing is unrealistic. That said you are getting ahead of yourself which is the reason why this topic is hard to talk about with people. See first try not...

I agree with this, as the patterns in my life seem that way. I find we have lots in common in several regards, albeit different genders, different cultural background, dif age, and dif beliefs.

Military half logic, very little culture, whatever humanity is in military does not come from military, but from family. Most military people ain't bad people, but they are trained to be bulldogs, that bite. Aggressive and with little regard for nuances and gradient thinking. These people are...

It is not the problem. It is THE MOST MASSIVE problem. By that I mean , you cannot veer out into some self propelled learning or thinking. There are schools with self direct learning as well. Homeschooling has shown to be effective too. Virtually all versions of school have been shown to be...

Anything, but school. Reading a book to write a bookreport from cliff notes is not going to make you Darwinian mega star even in school curriculum, or real life. Most of what people do is highly lacking in application in real life. Sure we can rationalize things to a degree, learn xyz to do...

I can tell you all the theory in the world about swimming, yet you can drown. You can only learn by swimming. However giving you the theory you will have the edge above those who never had the theory of swimming, and never did any swimming. Some of the best swimmers in this world the ones that...

Explaining to plebs why schools are dumb, is like explaining to a sparrow why flying is dumb. Sparrow dreams of being the Eagle. So shitting on schools, is the same as telling a sparrow that being an Eagle is dumb. Most plebs grew up illiterate and now they are overcompensating for it, but...

I don't think soldiers are psychopathic, but I do think most of them are kind of clueless about values and life. More over, some people are not psychopathic in pathological sense, but are capable of enormous cruelty. The only thing what I believe is correct motivation for military is poverty...

Maybe not. But until you understand something you never know how long it will take to understand. My guess, is that understanding the brain is lot easier nowdays, as there is more tangible facts to go on. We can see real time how brains function. That gives window into how the brain does...

Ugh just fyi I never said feedback loops or whatever lable we give them are not important. That said can you see how loops don't actually explain everything? There is a loop in our body, when you step on something sharp you lift your leg quicker than your brain can react. This loop is...

I know your post is hypothetical, but the fact conscription is a though business now days is not secret. I can see how some nations might not have issue filling the quota, but generally there was lowering of requirements, because people don't like dying for exchange of food. You also need...

That would be one tiny army.

Objectively no. I think you have lot of valuable ideas. Oh please don't be so dramatic, people aren't attacking you.

Pushing the economy down, will happen, as it will be convenient for the rich. They first need to secure their investments. Having poor people makes for easy gains, because then people have to shut up and put up with stuff even more. Then pulling the poor plebs out of the shit, makes them heroes...

True.

To be fair a scientist who is assured of his theories is not a scientist, its those science minds that are insecure about the truth that obsessively seek it. Hence endless curiosity, but also endless search for the capital T truth.