The Fallen Adymus

[Ink]

Wow only 9 minutes in but I totally loved this guy from the minute he did that weird greeting thing! I'll be all into this asap

 

[Lyra]

Btw, y'all scouring my archives. I'm watching you watching me (what's that!?).

 

[ProxyAmenRa]

Btw, y'all scouring my archives. I'm watching you watching me (what's that!?).

What archives? Where are these archives? I wanna look at some archives.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

Btw, y'all scouring my archives. I'm watching you watching me (what's that!?).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EA_EijC-7Lw

 

[Lyra]

'By the way, Lyra is a dude'.

The person assuming the name now, yes. It's also been used by a couple of (female) partners of mine (1 or 2 known to some members of this forum) and in less strictly delineable ways (not necc. on this forum), and to commune with various artistic muses and such-like entities or psychological collocations.

 

[ProxyAmenRa]

'By the way, Lyra is a dude'.

The person assuming the name now, yes. It's also been used by a couple of (female) partners of mine (1 or 2 known to some members of this forum) and in less strictly delineable ways (not necc. on this forum), and to commune with various artistic muses and such-like entities or psychological collocations.

 

[Jennywocky]

'By the way, Lyra is a dude'.

The person assuming the name now, yes. It's also been used by a couple of (female) partners of mine (1 or 2 known to some members of this forum) and in less strictly delineable ways (not necc. on this forum), and to commune with various artistic muses and such-like entities or psychological collocations.

Seriously?

Why are you using a name that is not yours and/or that belongs to a collective entity? I thought I was talking to an authentic, singular, human being; and it comes across as dishonest to me ... a lack of "good faith" in the conversation in question.

Your persona becomes more amorphous and less accessible the longer this dialogue continues.

 

[InvisibleJim]

Xyy - Fe
Xai - Fi
Zyy - Te
Zai - Ti
Nyy - Ne
Nai - Ni
Vyy - Se
Vai - Si

Woah, let these day be wrote histories of man and beast across all of the countries and lands. Sirs, I am Nai'zyy InvisibleJim *waves foam sword* I HAVE THE POWER!

<- Pod'lair theory and brand convert.

 

[Lyra]

@Jennywocky

I refer you to my second post in this thread, which was in reply to you. There is nothing inauthentic about being what one is-- in truth. Nor about not adhering to your limited and mundane conception of the nature of human Being and its appropriate referents/delineations. Your "good faith" represents the essence of everything I've ever opposed.

This is why I'm Pod'Lair...

 

[InvisibleJim]

Does anyone spot the carbon copy of the Reinin Dichotomies link on this page here?

The good news is Simon Cowell is my look a like. I sense money coming my way.

 

[Matt3737]

There is nothing inauthentic about being what one is-- in truth. Nor about not adhering to your limited and mundane conception of the nature of human Being and its appropriate referents/delineations. Your "good faith" represents the essence of everything I've ever opposed.

Which serial killer flick did you pull that from again? It's inspiring, really.

 

[Lyra]

You're probably misreading the Nai'alpha fluidity, there. It can be toxic when disassociated, but with an appropriate code of conduct which honors the highest in all concerned it's one more, integral part of our heroic collective human storyline.

Y'all can expect a video response to NFGeeks soon btw. I'll post it in this thread for you.

 

[tikru]

interesting contrast in these videos...

Spoiler

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKXk5avjlWw&feature=plcp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syTpWfzbQq4&feature=plcp

what do you guys think? good actor or insane?

 

[nim]

So... if this Husk'Cave uses visual analysis and Energizer bunnies and magical hoodoo charm bags for their giving of... what is it? personalities?... then do mute people with paralysis (e.g. Bell's Palsy), like my great-grandmother, have no Zee'Zai'Zoo'Zay personality thing?

 

[tikru]

Lyra,

can you provide some empirical proof regarding apparatus, mah'zute, spirit forms, enlightenment elevator, shiny baby, peak pathways, inspiration relationships, cognitive quadrants, etc.

or is my 'code of conduct' in poor taste? 'code of conduct' being another buzz word which simply tells you that anyone who raises negative concerns is not giving the hypothesis a full 'canvass'...

 

[Valgaar]

interesting contrast in these videos...

Spoiler

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKXk5avjlWw&feature=plcp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syTpWfzbQq4&feature=plcp

what do you guys think? good actor or insane?

Thank you. I haven't laughed like this in years.

 

[Lyra]

So... if this Husk'Cave uses visual analysis and Energizer bunnies and magical hoodoo charm bags for their giving of... what is it? personalities?... then do mute people with paralysis (e.g. Bell's Palsy), like my great-grandmother, have no Zee'Zai'Zoo'Zay personality thing?

Only if you're a hero!

 

[Jennywocky]

@Jennywocky

I refer you to my second post in this thread, which was in reply to you. There is nothing inauthentic about being what one is-- in truth. Nor about not adhering to your limited and mundane conception of the nature of human Being and its appropriate referents/delineations. Your "good faith" represents the essence of everything I've ever opposed.

This is why I'm Pod'Lair...

"Limited and mundane." Very nice.

Glad you can't learn anything from me, I wouldn't want to drag you down to my base level away from the glory that is Pod'Lair. Glad you are also honest finally in admitting you have no desire to communicate in good faith.

 

[Lyra]

Lyra,

can you provide some empirical proof regarding apparatus, mah'zute, spirit forms, enlightenment elevator, shiny baby, peak pathways, inspiration relationships, cognitive quadrants, etc.

or is my 'code of conduct' in poor taste? 'code of conduct' being another buzz word which simply tells you that anyone who raises negative concerns is not giving the hypothesis a full 'canvass'...

Hi tikru,

Peak Pathways and Inspiration Relationships are apparent through the observation of momentum when Reading. Cognitive Quadrants are (IMO) a useful teaching tool we use to convey the directional nature of cues/accesses, not an actual physical neurological claim.

The other forms you referenced are more tacit. It's not necessary to provide literal-level empirical backing to all things discussed, though, or to make strict empirical claims for everything you're saying. From our perspective, those things are there as forms and developed skill in Reading on tacit levels tends to notice them. I think it's a fair claim to say that a stronger empirical basis for a conception of humans generally tends towards accuracy on tacit levels, or in distinguishing what's possible/applicable on tacit levels given known empirical knowledge.

Edit: @Jennywocky: 'Glad you are also honest finally in admitting you have no desire to communicate in good faith.' Please note the context.

 

[tikru]

Hi tikru,

Peak Pathways and Inspiration Relationships are apparent through the observation of momentum when Reading. Cognitive Quadrants are (IMO) a useful teaching tool we use to convey the directional nature of cues/accesses, not an actual physical neurological claim.

The other forms you referenced are more tacit. It's not necessary to provide literal-level empirical backing to all things discussed, though, or to make strict empirical claims for everything you're saying. From our perspective, those things are there as forms and developed skill in Reading on tacit levels tends to notice them.

Is this the ss index thing? dividing knowledge into spiritual and concrete? Do you think it's possible that a personal bias will bleed into these forms? At least Jung makes references to case studies and works throughout history when discussing the archetypes. Would you say the physiological cues is the literal means to a tacit, more spiritual understanding? Isn't there some bias in that?

 

[Lyra]

Is this the ss index thing? dividing knowledge into spiritual and concrete? Do you think it's possible that a personal bias will bleed into these forms? At least Jung makes references to case studies and works throughout history when discussing the archetypes. Would you say the physiological cues is the literal means to a tacit, more spiritual understanding? Isn't there some bias in that?

The SS index does apply here, yes. Personal bias also certainly bleeds through, especially on tacit levels. There are risks and rewards; I think each end of the index actually works best when in a kind of feedback/corrective loop with with the other end, a bit like Peaking. Tacit without appropriate empirical grounding, checks, or eventual manifestation/proof goes totally off track, and empirical consciousness that believes it's ignoring tacit actually isn't and becomes blind to itself and etiolated in the process.

I'd say that the cues/claims are their own proof, but that a full understanding of humans would benefit from understanding that-- like many paradigmatic breakthroughs or grand syntheses, like Einstein's for example-- the process which yielded them was very tacit in its beginnings.

Essentially we know we could get a lot quicker props by making this all look respectable and literal, as the current memetic climate would approve of. But what we're seeking to make known is a fuller appreciation and understanding of the totality of what it really is to be human, and that cultural adherence would be a betrayal of what we know about that and how that knowledge came (through Coach) into being. It would be the very essence of cowardice-- which is the opposite of what P'L is about, and what all the intensely uncomfortable and un-affected public exposure is about.

 

[BigApplePi]

@Minuend.

nyy corresponds to Ne.

 

[tikru]

The SS index does apply here, yes. Personal bias also certainly bleeds through, especially on tacit levels. There are risks and rewards; I think each end of the index actually works best when in a kind of feedback/corrective loop with with the other end, a bit like Peaking. Tacit without appropriate empirical grounding, checks, or eventual manifestation/proof goes totally off track, and empirical consciousness that believes it's ignoring tacit actually isn't and becomes blind to itself and etiolated in the process.

I'd say that the cues/claims are their own proof, but that a full understanding of humans would benefit from understanding that-- like many paradigmatic breakthroughs or grand syntheses, like Einstein's for example-- the process which yielded them was very tacit in its beginnings.

Essentially we know we could get a lot quicker props by making this all look respectable and literal, as the current memetic climate would approve of. But what we're seeking to make known is a fuller appreciation and understanding of the totality of what it really is to be human, and that cultural adherence would be a betrayal of what we know about that and how that knowledge came (through Coach) into being.

Do you consider the current memetic climate meaningless? IT seems to me that you have seeds of ideas that need growth, but the only way to help them grow is by joining a group with questionable ideas on what it means to be human. And by joining this group, taking on it's ideas in the effort to prove them, those ideas become a meme in itself, one that competes against the prevailing memes. It seems like many in pod'lair fall under Thomas' power of suggestion based on their own insecurities and personal biases. Especially regarding the heroic path, enlightenment elevator and shiny baby.

 

[Lyra]

Do you consider the current memetic climate meaningless? IT seems to me that you have seeds of ideas that need growth, but the only way to help them grow is by joining a group with questionable ideas on what it means to be human. And by joining this group, taking on it's ideas in the effort to prove them, those ideas become a meme in itself, one that competes against the prevailing memes. It seems like many in pod'lair fall under Thomas' power of suggestion based on their own insecurities and personal biases. Especially regarding the heroic path, enlightenment elevator and shiny baby.

Trying to analyse my psychology is going to be pretty lol. Ask anyone who's come at all close to knowing me.

What I can say though is that I rationally judge these ideas to be accurate identifications of extant phenomena, and that this convo isn't going to be fruitful if you haven't spent a good amount of time analysing the content on MRR. It's just a dance of shadows without that prerequisite being in place.

@All I'm likely to draw my part in this convo to a close soon, barring any very interesting questions/input. No point in covering the same ground twice, and we've covered most of what's relevant.

 

[tikru]

Trying to analyse my psychology is going to be pretty lol. Ask anyone who's come at all close to knowing me.

What I can say though is that I rationally judge these ideas to be accurate identifications of extant phenomena, and that this convo isn't going to be fruitful if you haven't spent a good amount of time analysing the content on MRR. It's just a dance of shadows without that prerequisite being in place.

@All I'm likely to draw my part in this convo to a close soon, barring any very interesting questions/input. No point in covering the same ground twice, and we've covered most of what's relevant.

Yep, I can see you're fully ingrained in the cult. Good luck with everything.

 

[snafupants]

interesting contrast in these videos...

Spoiler

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKXk5avjlWw&feature=plcp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syTpWfzbQq4&feature=plcp

what do you guys think? good actor or insane?

I didn't need to see that contrast to know that Thomas is an Enneagram eight.

Anyway, here's some stuff from the merchandise section of the website.

http://www.podlair.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=319&Itemid=347

2) Limited Energy: Besides the attention of a superbly skilled specialist, the reading of a person is fatiguing, like an artist poring over a painting or a surgeon keeping every hand motion under control during an operation. It is fatiguing, so only so many cases can be worked and if a person is not fresh they should wait until they are rejuvenated and have the correct amount of energy for such a feat. Not only is the level of technique preciously finite, so is the mental and artistic energy required to fuel such a process.

4) Toxicity Issue: Reading a person has a lot in common with doing psych profiles. All humans will benefit from being read, but the process of reading a person is made more difficult, and dangerous, by toxicity levels of the subjects being read. It is very important that the few qualified readers not waste their time with people who won't contribute to the Pod'Lair cause and community and just want to get reads for themselves and don't want to give back. We have had lots of experience with this and it has consistently been those with the most toxic energy and least desire to chip in for their fellow humans that are often the most insistent of having this valuable service given to them without regard to how they can help their fellow humans in return or how toxic their energy is. This makes for an arduous experience for the beleaguered Pod'Lair team. Short version: when you read you merge with the mind of the subject to some degree, so we need to know first if we want to do that with the person.

At this point already, Pod'Lair methodology outperforms any cognitive function evaluation product on the market and we are working to build a counsel of 16 full-time Professional Mojo Readers at 100% accuracy as a minimum for an official read. Our standards are very high.

So absurd. What verifies that accuracy?! Any validity numbers? Factor analysis?!

 

[snafupants]

Xyy - Fe
Xai - Fi
Zyy - Te
Zai - Ti
Nyy - Ne
Nai - Ni
Vyy - Se
Vai - Si


So, you'd be a Nyy'Xai, @Minuend.

I looked at the examples on their website. Lo and behold, the MBTI ENTJs basically go with Zyy'Nai and the MBTI INTPs basically go with Zai'Nyy. Smoke and mirrors.

* We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone, for any reason, at any time. If your Mojo is unable to be confirmed due to high volume or interference (see Mojo Reading Process), you will receive a refund. No refunds are permitted for any other reason.

* In the event that you dispute your read, Mojo Confirmations are non-refundable.

This is completely shameless. Yeah, give us your thirty five dollars and nix your pissant grievances.

Where's the quality control?! Checks and balances? Where are those validity numbers?

 

[Matt3737]

My impression is Pod'Lair began as an attempt to mock and satirize personality theory through the use of ridiculous terminology based on a similar theoretical structure that has since been retooled to defraud potential interests.

 

[InvisibleJim]

Im amused that mojo reading is nonrefundable when disputed. I note that Podlair likes to quote 'mojo reading skill levels'. I wonder how many readings are disputed?

 

[snafupants]

My impression is Pod'Lair began as an attempt to mock and satirize personality theory through the use of ridiculous terminology based on a similar theoretical structure that has since been retooled to defraud potential interests.

I agree with the defrauding part, but have you seen videos of Thomas and Adymus?! The point I'm trying to grok is that Pod'Lair practitioners make up for lack of content with zealousness and internal consistency and byzantine esoterica - aside from being hallmarks of cults, these behaviors intimate actual belief, which is frankly frightening. The hierarchical structure and indoctrination process also seem cult-like. There are religious undertones as well - replete with Messiah Complexes and defensiveness towards perceived heretics and infidels. Notice that Lyra scoffs at the scientific method, academia, and validity measures; within that dismissal there's fear and insecurity. The outside world just doesn't understand yet, such might be the reflexive ejaculations at Pod'Lair. The perceived alienation segues to doubling down on beliefs. Again, cult-like.

 

[Lyra]

This is completely shameless. Yeah, give us your thirty five dollars and nix your pissant grievances.

You're being shameless here, actually. 1) We are providing tonnes of free reads right now, and anybody can get one. 2) Even if we were past that phase, anybody wanting a read could go and look at our many public ones to see what service they were buying. 3) What we offer is what is in our opinion the truth of the matter, as formed by a very long process of theoretical formulation, training, and free public explanation. A financial adviser, by comparison, almost never offers money back if you don't like the professional opinion he offers. What you're implying we should be doing is simply unreasonable and unworkable. You're essentially saying payment for individual services should be entirely discretionary even after those services have been properly rendered. 4) This is inherently the type of field where quite a lot will have difficulty accepting what they're told at first, due to conflicts with present coping strategies/self-image etc. We do tonnes of work free of charge because we believe in it. We are all losing money and widely accepted social credit on this. Offering reads on these terms is hardly unfair.

My impression is Pod'Lair began as an attempt to mock and satirize personality theory through the use of ridiculous terminology based on a similar theoretical structure that has since been retooled to defraud potential interests.

This defrauding part is sheer slander. If I wanted a quick and easy buck I would have become an investment banker, and avoided all the difficulties associated with Pod'Lair. What we're doing is offering our services for little personal monetary recompense as a means of, hopefully, being able to continue propagating what we believe in.

 

[snafupants]

4) This is inherently the type of field where quite a lot will have difficulty accepting what they're told at first, due to conflicts with present coping strategies/self-image etc.

Or due to the fact that Pod'Lair is thinly-veiled plagiarism of Jung and MBTI. I agree with the folks at NFGeeks who oppose Pod'Lair's conceptual homogenization of their personalities. Clearly, Mike and guests on NFGeeks exhibit different temperamental tendencies but Pod'Lair is too crude an instrument to pick those nuances up with any credibility. See, Pod'Lair is not only an incoherent incarnation of MBTI with lipstick but it makes claims well beyond its purported acumen. I would still very much like to see validity numbers or outside authentication of these insular typing techniques.

 

[Lyra]

Or due to the fact that Pod'Lair is thinly-veiled plagiarism of Jung and MBTI. I agree with the folks at NFGeeks who oppose Pod'Lair's conceptual homogenization of their personalities. Clearly, Mike and guests on NFGeeks exhibit different temperamental tendencies but Pod'Lair is too crude an instrument to pick those nuances up with any credibility. See, Pod'Lair is not only an incoherent incarnation of MBTI with lipstick but it makes claims well beyond its purported acumen. I would still very much like to see validity numbers or outside authentication of these insular typing techniques.

You're flailing. You just made an accusation of fraud and dishonest business practice, and now you're responding to a debunking of your accusation with a theoretical disagreement. Somebody buying services would be doing so upon the basis of their own desire for our opinion, and would have ample material to form a judgement of what this would likely entail and what its theoretical basis was.

That you just squirmed like that is flat out cowardly and slanderous. You not liking Pod'Lair doesn't make us financial criminals, but you saying so does make you a slanderer.

 

[snafupants]

You're flailing. You just made an accusation of fraud and dishonest business practice, and now you're responding to a debunking of your accusation with a theoretical disagreement. Somebody buying services would be doing so upon the basis of their own desire for our opinion, and would have ample material to form a judgement of what this would likely entail and what its theoretical basis was.

That you just squirmed like that is flat out cowardly and slanderous. You not liking Pod'Lair doesn't make us financial criminals, but you saying so does make you a liar.

Why should anyone believe Pod'Lair's grandiose claims?

How could I go about dis/proving Pod'Lair's purported accuracy numbers?!

Validity numbers?! I'm still waiting.

 

[ProxyAmenRa]

I may be ignorant in this area but I can't imagine statistics one could collect to support MBTI or other personality typing system hippie claptrap. I do know that what ever statistics one presents would be purely observational and not empirical. Hell, this is all just all an character trait clustering system.

 

[snafupants]

I may be ignorant in this area but I can't imagine statistics one could collect to support MBTI or other personality typing system hippie claptrap. I do know that what ever statistics one presents would be purely observational and not empirical. Hell, this is all just all an character trait clustering system.

Couldn't you show something through reliability across time and measures?

The Big 5 basically weathered decades of factor analytical scrutiny.

I do know that what ever statistics one presents would be purely observational and not empirical.

Yeah, not really.

The only dialectical terra firma you might have is construct validity.

 

[Jennywocky]

My impression is Pod'Lair began as an attempt to mock and satirize personality theory through the use of ridiculous terminology based on a similar theoretical structure that has since been retooled to defraud potential interests.

Ahhh.... "Bad joke" --> "Lucrative scam".
Such an old, old story.

Actually, I'm convinced the younger adherents actually believe in it. The dialogue actually reminds me a lot of the religious groups back at college. The patterns repeat themselves, cycling again and again, there is nothing new under the sun. That's what's funny... the benefits of older age is recognizing patterns for what they are. ("Hey! I've seen this before!")

 

[SMO]

You may hire me as a marketing/pr consultant. I have no interest in being read or increasing my energy or anything like that, just in monetary compensation. The following are my free recommendations on how to increase your cults members. I will be putting together a "How to Start (AND GROW) Your Own Cult" ebook available in the spring of 2013...so keep your eyes out!

1. Get rid of the "Ni Jai ' xxy chuy chomp" names it is off putting and sounds ridiculous.

2. Get new graphics for the masks or faces or whatever they are, it looks like a eighth grader who is in their first month of learning how to use Adobe Illustrator created them.

3. Ditch the cheesy intro graphics and verbiage on the youtube "instructional" videos, it appears to be from the early 90's.

4. Stop the hand signals and make up a cool members only handshake, with decoder ring, available for $49.99.

5. Change the name from Pod'Lair to Pod'Larp that way you can incorporate the LARP (Live Action Role Play) people who already have a reality based in fantasy.

Let me know how you want to structure the company I suggest an S-Corp holding company, I will give you my fees based on your needs.

New Tagline "If you love Scientology and love personality testing, we have incorporated the best of both world's...Pod'LARP!"

 

[Jennywocky]

Wow, you really ARE worth your money: I really am having a positive response (as a test audience) to the concept of Pod'LARP'ing.

It's like personality gaming without all the dice.

 

[BigApplePi]

New Tagline "If you love Scientology and love personality testing, we have incorporated the best of both world's...Pod'LARP!"

You used the word, "love." Wouldn't "Pod'LOVE" be much superior? Pod for Pod-People and Love for ... well love. I'm not a marketing person so you know best ... just thought I'd contribute.

Feel free to hire me as a sub-subordinate consultant. I charge nothing and demand no pay even if I tried.

 

[BigApplePi]

You're flailing. You just made an accusation of fraud and dishonest business practice, and now you're responding to a debunking of your accusation with a theoretical disagreement. Somebody buying services would be doing so upon the basis of their own desire for our opinion, and would have ample material to form a judgement of what this would likely entail and what its theoretical basis was.

That you just squirmed like that is flat out cowardly and slanderous. You not liking Pod'Lair doesn't make us financial criminals, but you saying so does make you a slanderer.

Lyra. I'm disappointed you don't answer this question, but why not emphasize Pod'Lair's positive qualities and give credit to Pod'Lair's origins? I suspect you use your values against your own self-interest. Need help? Or should I mind my own business? BTW my business is to understand these things.

 

[snafupants]

Feel free to hire me as a sub-subordinate consultant. I charge nothing and demand no pay even if I tried.

I'd like to rise to this historic opportunity and file an application for assistant to the sub-subordinate consultant.

 

[BigApplePi]

I'd like to rise to this historic opportunity and file an application for assistant to the sub-subordinate consultant.

I will put in a word for you. I've read some of your writings and they seem close to approaching worthy. Especially Lyra who seems to have taken a liking for you but snubs me ... I should be so lucky. (I have no idea why I should intimidate her.) BTW has Pod'Lair accurately pinpointed your type? Left alone with the Pod'Lairists I wonder what way they would have with you if they had their way?

 

[snafupants]

I will put in a word for you. I've read some of your writings and they seem close to approaching worthy. Especially Lyra who seems to have taken a liking for you but snubs me ... I should be so lucky. (I have no idea why I should intimidate her.)

Yeah, Lyra and I very much have a special relationship.

BTW has Pod'Lair accurately pinpointed your type? Left alone with the Pod'Lairists I wonder what way they would have with you if they had their way?

Probably an INFJ, or its klingon Pod'Lair counterpart, because that's apparently what they blanketed the whole cast of NFGeeks with.

Basically, nobody at NFGeeks who received unsolicited reports was satisfied whatsoever. So maybe the name should change to Pod'Liar? They can even retain the klingon.

 

[Jennywocky]

I'd like to rise to this historic opportunity and file an application for assistant to the sub-subordinate consultant.

Now I'm getting confused.

Is the sub-subordinate underneath the subordinate, or does it all flip around and become over the ordinate?

I suppose it depends on whether "sub" acts as a negative, and double negatives cancel. This is very important to know -- the outcome of this entire thread depends on it! After all, if you become the ordinate, well, I think you'll run things very differently.

 

[snafupants]

Now I'm getting confused.

Is the sub-subordinate underneath the subordinate, or does it all flip around and become over the ordinate?

I suppose it depends on whether "sub" acts as a negative, and double negatives cancel. This is very important to know -- the outcome of this entire thread depends on it! After all, if you become the ordinate, well, I think you'll run things very differently.

@Jennywocky

Jenny, I can certainly appreciate your concern. Unfortunately, because of my lowly position as candidate for assistant to the sub-subordinate I can't break chain of command and disclose any information that would conceivable make this issue more limpid. Much like Pod'Lair or Kafka's The Trial, the higher one goes, the more flummoxing the paradoxes. Again, I wish I could help.

 

[Jennywocky]

Jenny, I can certainly appreciate your concern. Unfortunately, because of my lowly position as candidate for assistant to the sub-subordinate I can't break chain of command and disclose any information that would conceivable make this issue more limpid. Much like Pod'Lair or Kafka's The Trial, the higher one goes, the more flummoxing the paradoxes. Again, I wish I could help.

Oh futz. Well, I suppose since everything would be couched in the most "transparent and simplest of language" and not complicated whatsoever, on the level of a third grader, rather than using some arcane and convoluted dialect specific to the group, I should be able to puzzle this out on my own without my puzzler getting too sore.

huzzah!

 

[BigApplePi]

Yeah, Lyra and I very much have a special relationship.

I'm happy for you. I hope Lyra is as happy.

Probably an INFJ, or its klingon Pod'Lair counterpart, because that's apparently what they blanketed the whole cast of NFGeeks with.

I may be laboring under a misconception, but I thought there was no such thing as an INFJ. NaiXyy to you buddy. I only saw one NFGeeks and they have my respect ... not that that is worth anything to them.

Basically, nobody at NFGeeks who received unsolicited reports was satisfied whatsoever. So maybe the name should change to Pod'Liar? They can even retain the klingon.

Well that can be considered but I tend to look askance at the latter syllable. It smacks of suggesting untruth. I like "Pod'Love" for Pod people and Love. Cult-worthy don't you think?

 

[ProxyAmenRa]

Couldn't you show something through reliability across time and measures?

The Big 5 basically weathered decades of factor analytical scrutiny.

The only dialectical terra firma you might have is construct validity.

The only thing I can think of is scanning people's brains and try and identify similarities and or differences within personality types and between personality types. Have your sample size large enough to reduce the noise of outliers. To be pedantic, this research still would not be considered "empirical" research as you are not setting up a controlled experiment to inquire into underlying foundations. You have no hypothesis you're trying to invalidate.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

Does anyone spot the carbon copy of the Reinin Dichotomies link on this page here?

@InvisibleJim Not sure what you mean, I see no similarities whatsoever.


**Ben is with Pod'lair now?

'By the way, Lyra is a dude'.

The person assuming the name now, yes. It's also been used by a couple of (female) partners of mine (1 or 2 known to some members of this forum) and in less strictly delineable ways (not necc. on this forum), and to commune with various artistic muses and such-like entities or psychological collocations.

@Lyra

Could you elaborate?