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Inducing Nightmares

Puffy

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Perhaps a bit unorthodox, but, well, this is INTPf. :D

I was wondering if anyone knew or could share any methods for inducing nightmares/ vivid dreams? Just a part of a few experiments I'm doing. :rolleyes:

The only things I've come across are related to sustaining negative thoughts/ watching/ reading scary material before bed, or eating cheese/ salty/ spicy foods, which I'm skeptical about. The latter has never worked for me anyway.

The problem with the former is that I've been a fan of horror-related material for most of my life, by now the fear is long gone and it's more of an aesthetic choice. My dreams often include horror related contexts, but, like in real life, they don't induce fear, it's more like they're a part of the natural fabric of my dream world. :phear:

Soooo, any suggestions? ^_^
 

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" Commit a brutal murder." this doesn't work all the time.
 

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Can't think of anything.

But eating unhealthy food right before bed + irregular/insufficient sleep schedule + sleeping on stomach(or back? can't remember) tends to cause sleep paralysis for me. Maybe that helps.
 

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Drink a bunch of St John's Wart everyday for a few days then stop.

Or drink alcohol/eat cheese right before bed
 

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Place one self in a position of facing fear in waking life, but in a double bind situation, where one is damned if one does and damned if one doesn't.

That should result in a dream of some kind.

I don't suppose one hopes to battle demons alone in the dark or get involved in a nightmare from which one can't wake up, but every awakening is still within the dream...
 

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Apparantly Malaria tablets induce nightmares, I'm travelling to Tanzania in a few weeks so I'm anticipating some epic mountain prophecies. :D

Thanks for the suggestions though.
 

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Have a lot of negative feelings that surface in your subconsciousness when you sleep? :p
 

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Mix medicines, or medicine with alcohol, especially when you're feverish and dehydrated.

Now I'm not saying that's a good idea! Just that it would work.
 

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Have a lot of negative feelings that surface in your subconsciousness when you sleep? :p

How objective of you, Fukyo. :P

You're right though, maybe I should count myself lucky that negative feelings don't emerge in my sleep, and that my seemingly positive ones often involve zombie apocalypses. I should probably get that checked out. :phear:
 

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Some techniques for inducing lucid dreaming can trigger sleep paralysis.
 

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Try...I mean don't try opiates!
 

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Simply sleeping in a car can do the trick...

Dreams tie together the unresolved issues, unfulfilled wishes, the incomplete thoughts of daily life. That is why so many scientific discoveries come as the results of dreams. Technically, in Creative Problem Solving, this process is referred to as 'Incubation" and hopefully is more analogous to hatching an egg rather than being victimized by an Incubus (or succubus)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incubus
 

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hallucinations in sleep paralisis can be entertaining or mildly painfull (tactile hallucinations), but they are only scary when you think that sleep paralisis is something scary. i didn't, not even the first time around. they aren't nescesarily scary, because the content of those hallucinations is simply guesswork. your mind thinks you are owned by some alien power (it's just your body, stupid), so it gives an image to it: a hag, a succubi - or it doesn't. creativity is fun though, so why not have sex with wild succubi monsters? i allways liked it.

a true nightmare (by that i mean a truely scary dream) is different, because it's the acute manifestation of a real internal conflict. it's the drama of your life condensed in a virtual situation wherein it seems as if not everything had been lost for as long as you can remember, but that you are loosing it right now. as a soul you go back (inward) to when (where) the division occured first, but you are a moment to late in your "time travel" and can't prevent the script from unfolding just the same again. (the time travel is really a self-travel, a travel into the center of the spiral of your conditioning)

the only way to induce it, i believe, is to have a clue about one of your major divisions and to dwell on it somehow.

i'm not sure i would know how to dwell on it, if i wasn't so comfortable to avoid the fucker from hell. but i have a clue about my divisions (from past dreams of such nature) and i could maybe find a way

... the movie shadow of the vampire with willem dafoe worked for me once. it had to do with how i reflected on it. i provoked the vampire, when i made fun of him and put his foto right into my personal blog ... so the next night he came at me and bit me. but it was only a mild nightmare.

http://tannenrad.blogspot.de/2009/04/enjoy-voices.html

one of the worst i had was indeed similar to an experience with sleep paralisis, but it wasn't a hallucination with open eyes. it happened while waking up, yet being unable to fully wake up though. at that point the daily state of consciousness is put to gether, which involves the (re)birth of your persona (excluding your shadow) and your respective worldview (excluding all aspects of reality that you don't want to deal with). i think this happens, before a sleep paralisis would occur, if it did - your mind is allready awake in slepp paralisis - mostly. anyhow, the nightmare was, that someone else would allow me to slip into my persona and my golden cage. he was the shadow side, of course, and he wanted to get into the waking state and into my physical body, so to speak - which meant that i wasn't allowed to - i would have to cease to exist, if he took over, so i guessed. i couldn't see him, but i felt that he controlled my dreambody (he moved it around, pulled it away from the representation of my physical body, i was allready half way in, felt it physically, then he pulled me out again) and at times his voice would manifest, revealing his intentions. an unenpathic voice that basicly forbids you to be born (= "awake" physically) - what could be more scary. "but but .. i want to live" and all that. the scariest thing was, that i knew he was a true part of me, and normally he would be invisible to me, but still controlling me. my shadow set's more parameters of how my waking life unfolds than my conscious ego. he is everthing that i forgott about, including all habits, not simply bad traits that i might have repressed for some particular reason. he is the violent uninhibited life, that is klaus kinski, or the like. and for him, my waking up means that he has go to sleep. but it's horribly paradox, you see: somehow his unenpathic voice is also the force, that puts me to sleep, as if he wanted that. that's the nature of the psyche : things seem splittet, but they are still one and the same. the shadow is like an image in the mirror, and he makes roughly the same moves that you do, but he does them for different reasons, than you think you do your moves. well that would be "dwelling on my division" ... not sure if i went deep enough into it, to get another nightmare tonight .... hope you get one, i mean, hope it helps :p --- the shadow is somewhat universal, to the degree i went into it here ...
 

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apart from that i actually had one of those milk induced nightmare/temporary psychosis. it' happened when i emptied 200 ml of ultraheated sour cream. it doesn't happen for cheese or alive milk products (alive=having bacteria in it). i believe it has to do with digestion not being able to split one of the proteins, and maybe digetion is inhibited by . if such a protein reaches the brain, it physically induces a psychotic/entheogenic/psychedelic state. for me it was like i (my dream self) was melting into the rest of the dream or drowing in it, being cooked by it. i was scared of being destroyed, as a consious focused being, something that has a sense of self. i have read, that this protein, which is so difficult to break down in digestion, occurs only in a breeded-branch of cows = most western cows though, not in more original cows which are moce common in asia, if i remember correctly, i forgott the name of that protein ... well that's all solid since. some people get long term psychosis from daily consum of such dairy.
 

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OK, why the Hell do you want nightmares?

You want vivid dreams? Start taking antidepressants; whenever I start a new one, I get dreams so vivid I can't tell the difference. They stop after a few days, though. Bad dreams I can't help you with--what strikes me is how utterly mundane these dreams are (for me, anyway). It's why I have trouble distinguishing them from actual memories.

Good luck, I think.
 

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What causes you extreme fear? It's a question related to the subconscious, so you might not be aware of your greatest fears, but if you were, then you could place yourself in an environment abundant with those elements of deeply ingrained aversions. Someone you trust to handle your subconscious could help you with that.
 

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The only things I've come across are related to sustaining negative thoughts/ watching/ reading scary material before bed, or eating cheese/ salty/ spicy foods, which I'm skeptical about. The latter has never worked for me anyway.

The cheese has to be very strong aged cheese such as stilton to work. The most plausible explanation is the actions of tyramine and its interaction with MAO-A.
 
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