Becoming a Mastermind

[AndyC]

Hi all,
how would one become a mastermind? I don't really expect anyone to know, but what are the skills necessary and how should one develop them?

 

[Black Rose]

It is about making plans then implementing them to achieve your goals.

My plans are more abstract, I know that someday I will have power. But I know other people have more intelligence than I do. That is why I am creating my fractal social network. I know that Artificial intelligence is being developed in multiple areas. So I must leave traces of myself that can be connected by as many A.I.s as possible. I will be in control of many A.I.s, this will allow me to gain power. Instead of creating a physical organization I am creating a virtual collective. Once I have this collective it will act to follow my orders. My goals are still classified but I am interlocking several places online for future implementation with A.I. integration.

 

[Ex-User (8886)]

change personality type to NTJ

 

[Jason988]

I am an INTJ and getting things accomplished is easy. If I am not getting things progressed I feel like I am failing. I refuse to fail, to slow down , to let anyone or anything stand in my way. I know what can be done and I will make it happen. Get up 4am go to gym then breakfast then attack my list for the day. You want to achieve things believe in yourself because nobody else will. Someone stands in your way you remove them as an obstacle for good. Get rid of caring for others feelings too as that too will distract you from accomplishing your visions. By the time you look back it's 3 years later and you see just how far away from the normal people you are. Focus on goal no matter the situation. The path may change but as long as you stay focused on the end goal nothing is impossible

 

[Reluctantly]

INTJs are a strange bunch.

 

[TheManBeyond]

u can attempt to reach whatever your goal is, then u will prove yourself you are or you are not.
but you cannot develop talent.
u are born with it or you are not.
like some wise guy said, when the genius becomes too small there's nothing will can do about it, only talent leads to the sharp design.

 

[Ex-User (14663)]

I am an INTJ and getting things accomplished is easy. If I am not getting things progressed I feel like I am failing. I refuse to fail, to slow down , to let anyone or anything stand in my way. I know what can be done and I will make it happen. Get up 4am go to gym then breakfast then attack my list for the day. You want to achieve things believe in yourself because nobody else will. Someone stands in your way you remove them as an obstacle for good. Get rid of caring for others feelings too as that too will distract you from accomplishing your visions. By the time you look back it's 3 years later and you see just how far away from the normal people you are. Focus on goal no matter the situation. The path may change but as long as you stay focused on the end goal nothing is impossible

Jason988 at the gym:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAAAbwEtZRo

 

[Nebulous]

Jason988 at the gym:

LMAOOO

 

[redbaron]

wat a beast

i mean if you u ironically followed his general philosophy you'd do pretty good i think.

 

[QuickTwist]

wat a beast

i mean if you u ironically followed his general philosophy you'd do pretty good i think.

And you wouldn't make any enemies either, which is always good.

 

[washti]

I wonder. If super productive achievers draw somewhere a line between : this is good enough here I will stop/this is too much(maniacs fanatism), do not touch? How they do that? To which level you would elevate your goals? And they dont get bored? It is somehow amazing - this endurance. That need to become someone special, "making a dent in universe". Some people just dont feel alive without challange, ambitions, hard work and effort. I get that. And I really dont mind to just consume their creation and to be a building block in their feeling of superiority. Very probably that my perspective is screwed up, but when I hear achievers prep talk i cannot rid an impresion that they are proud of being tired. Like exhaustion become their virtue.

 

[AndyC]

When performing at levels of flow, I find I use Te and Ni as well as my normal functions. Weird.

 

[TheManBeyond]

I wonder. If super productive achievers draw somewhere a line between : this is good enough here I will stop/this is too much(maniacs fanatism), do not touch? How they do that? To which level you would elevate your goals? And they dont get bored? It is somehow amazing - this endurance. That need to become someone special, "making a dent in universe". Some people just dont feel alive without challange, ambitions, hard work and effort. I get that. And I really dont mind to just consume their creation and to be a building block in their feeling of superiority. Very probably that my perspective is screwed up, but when I hear achievers prep talk i cannot rid an impresion that they are proud of being tired. Like exhaustion become their virtue.

Maybe u sound jealous?
Turn that vibe into admiration then u will grow.
Jealously is the most awful thing a person can feel. Erase it now.

 

[Jason988]

u can attempt to reach whatever your goal is, then u will prove yourself you are or you are not.
but you cannot develop talent.
u are born with it or you are not.
like some wise guy said, when the genius becomes too small there's nothing will can do about it, only talent leads to the sharp design.

It is not about talent. It comes down to inner drive plain and simple. If you have that inner drive you will naturally develop skills in what you do. I completely disagree with when you say "attempt." The reason is because by saying "attempt" you are giving yourself an out; which means you either are setting your bar way too low or you will fail. If I say I am going to do something I will it is simple. What most people don't seem to grasp is that along the way I may have many times that something happens that most would look at as failure and give up. In all honestly I love it more then anything when something doesn't go as planned. That is where I enjoy it the most. You see the experience always teaches me something that adds to my base knowledge which in turn contributes to my next move still on the course of my goal. I found many ways not to get where I wanted. However, I found plenty that did get me exactly where I knew I was going. Once you commit to a goal you always keep your eye on the end goal. Now the road will have lots of twists and turns. It is not linear and it is actually the times when thins get tougher that are the most fun. That is the fun and exciting part. Going back to what I said because it still holds true--believe in yourself because nobody else will. Others only see what you accomplish and never see what that took to get there. That is where vision comes into play. I know i 1,3,5,10,15 years and beyond where I am going. The end is still the same but the path is not straight.

Core values that have remained true throughout life.
1. People hate when you achieve because they see their failures
2. People not in your inner circle are pawns; use them accordingly
3. Hold true to your visions because most people will never understand them
4. The rules and laws are guidelines that can be used to your advantage
5. It is best not to use peoples weakness against them but instead use their strengths because that destroys them mentally
6. Life is easy once you realize that what you are taught in school is nothing more then basically hear say as far as creating things in life. the people who speak of it have never done it.
7. Life is not luck it is a strategy game that needs to be thought out

 

[Jason988]

I wonder. If super productive achievers draw somewhere a line between : this is good enough here I will stop/this is too much(maniacs fanatism), do not touch? How they do that? To which level you would elevate your goals? And they dont get bored? It is somehow amazing - this endurance. That need to become someone special, "making a dent in universe". Some people just dont feel alive without challange, ambitions, hard work and effort. I get that. And I really dont mind to just consume their creation and to be a building block in their feeling of superiority. Very probably that my perspective is screwed up, but when I hear achievers prep talk i cannot rid an impresion that they are proud of being tired. Like exhaustion become their virtue.

Not about being special. Truthfully I prefer people don't know I exist. Nothing is ever good enough and I will never feel content with what I have done. Everything can be improved and content simply means you set sights low then gave up on yourself.

I told my wife that I never will retire. That is like giving up on life. But even worse it would be giving up on myself. Its not hard work either considering I love it. It is very fun to put a plan in place with timeframe then nail it on point. I set my bar high so if I reached it I would raise it much higher and push even harder. I have nobody to impress or answer to with what I do except myself. Which happens to be one of the few people I will never fail.

The inner drive is too strong to fight. Its easier to let it just flow naturally.

 

[Jason988]

I wonder. If super productive achievers draw somewhere a line between : this is good enough here I will stop/this is too much(maniacs fanatism), do not touch? How they do that? To which level you would elevate your goals? And they dont get bored? It is somehow amazing - this endurance. That need to become someone special, "making a dent in universe". Some people just dont feel alive without challange, ambitions, hard work and effort. I get that. And I really dont mind to just consume their creation and to be a building block in their feeling of superiority. Very probably that my perspective is screwed up, but when I hear achievers prep talk i cannot rid an impresion that they are proud of being tired. Like exhaustion become their virtue.

I actually do not feel tired. It is just the opposite with that topic. Sitting at home my mind is thinking about 10 things I can get done if I didn't have to listen to wife talk in circles. I sleep 8-10 hours a night. I have not woke up to an alarm clock in over 5 years. If you did a 9-5 then they probably get tired. I left that type of life long ago.

 

[Jason988]

Jason988 at the gym:

Not cool putting up my documentary on here. Thank god you didn't find the one they did on me as a drag queen. 18 had some weird times hahaha

 

[Jason988]

And you wouldn't make any enemies either, which is always good.

Enemies come and go. How they feel has no impact on my life. They can waste time thinking about me while I am getting next project moving. Besides conflict in life will always happen. The funny thing is the people you attract are strong willed and driven people.

 

[onesteptwostep]

Clench your fists and rest your jaws on them a lot. There, now you are 80% mastermind looking.

 

[Ex-User (14663)]

Becoming a mastermind is not about "goals" and nice little bullet-point to-do lists. It's about cultivating an obsession – and feeding it.

 

[Jason988]

Becoming a mastermind is not about "goals" and nice little bullet-point to-do lists. It's about cultivating an obsession – and feeding it.

If those are your goals then yes. Think is its about power and perception by others to use one line.

 

[TheManBeyond]

the obsession or the mastery doesn't make you a mastermind until someone says this guy is genious, until someone buys you for millions. then u are a mastermind.

 

[Jason988]

the obsession or the mastery doesn't make you a mastermind until someone says this guy is genious, until someone buys you for millions. then u are a mastermind.

Look in different areas you have different types of masterminds. I think we need clarification as to the original question from poster

 

[PmjPmj]

How's about just become the best version of yourself instead of trying to fit some bullshit archetype off the back of a third-rate ''''psychometric'''' instrument?

Verily, get to fvck.

 

[QuickTwist]

Enemies come and go. How they feel has no impact on my life. They can waste time thinking about me while I am getting next project moving. Besides conflict in life will always happen. The funny thing is the people you attract are strong willed and driven people.

Yes, but why make your life more stress filled than you need to. This is essentially what you are doing by saying you don't care who you make an enemy. The reason I am saying you have disregard any kind of enemy you might have is because your methodology for who is an enemy is simply who gets in your way. If the president gets in your way, you are going to introduce a whole lot more stress into you life by trying to take him out of the picture for good.

 

[Jason988]

How's about just become the best version of yourself instead of trying to fit some bullshit archetype off the back of a third-rate ''''psychometric'''' instrument?

Verily, get to fvck.

Completely agree on the bullshit instrument. I don't believe you can ever be the best you can be because that bar should be set high. If you get there it's way too low. Perhaps this is a dead topic now as the original poster disappeared.

I would also say if you have to ask this question you probably will never be there lol that's the truth but was an interesting discussion either way.

 

[Jason988]

Yes, but why make your life more stress filled than you need to. This is essentially what you are doing by saying you don't care who you make an enemy. The reason I am saying you have disregard any kind of enemy you might have is because your methodology for who is an enemy is simply who gets in your way. If the president gets in your way, you are going to introduce a whole lot more stress into you life by trying to take him out of the picture for good.

I think this comes down more to personality type. That's not stressful to me to even up the odds. I would feel dressed if I let things go. I think that if you look up my mbti and enneagram together it paints a better picture as to why I do not get stressed. Not everyone has the personality traits to do that. The president I actually like. He says the same thing that most people would say to each other. It's funny how the media melts down lol

My mbti and enneagram are
INTJ 8w7 sp/sx

 

[QuickTwist]

I think this comes down more to personality type. That's not stressful to me to even up the odds. I would feel dressed if I let things go. I think that if you look up my mbti and enneagram together it paints a better picture as to why I do not get stressed. Not everyone has the personality traits to do that. The president I actually like. He says the same thing that most people would say to each other. It's funny how the media melts down lol

My mbti and enneagram are
INTJ 8w7 sp/sx

K, so you didn't answer my hypothetical question whatsoever, so let me reframe.

Given that a person who has much more political power gets in your way, how would you deal with this knowing that even if you could "take him out" how would you deal with the repercussions knowing someone is going to come after you to settle the score?

Also, the fact that you are not as prone to stress as most people has more to do with low neuroticism rather than any kind of combination of MBTI and Enneagram.

 

[Jason988]

K, so you didn't answer my hypothetical question whatsoever, so let me reframe.

Given that a person who has much more political power gets in your way, how would you deal with this knowing that even if you could "take him out" how would you deal with the repercussions knowing someone is going to come after you to settle the score?

Also, the fact that you are not as prone to stress as most people has more to do with low neuroticism rather than any kind of combination of MBTI and Enneagram.

Someone who has political power in truth only has the power people give them. Reliance on that power which is a strength should be to attack. You talk about the president and that is what the media is trying only they have idiots that are on television. Support is the people that believe in them. In his current position you need equal power which what intelligence community is doing.

Point is if your referring to the person in the highest position publicly you can't atrack now. Time is on your side with that. Wait and plan out when the spotlight fades away . That is when the power weakens and vulnerability will present itself. Honestly with Trump I like him and he would make a great Ali instead of enemy. He is loyal to those close to him and I respect that trait. We would most likely get along very well.

Better example would be a CEO. Same principles apply but atrack they his family. There is always a weak one with some kind of addiction or habit. You see if you can exploit that person to the point that they destroy themself then that in turns wears down the actual target. This is not a game you win in a day. You commit and follow thru over time. I could really go into detail about fighting my ex for custody the last 6 years and how I exploited her lawyers multiple times. I'm going to incriminate myself here though . I can say that I cost them lots of money and they have idea. Not in a shortsighted way either by chocking up her money supply which I do around holidays and after court dates to make her struggle as much as possible. Instead I cost them literally weeks worth of business. I have a hardware wallet I put digital assets in that I am saving for this judges re election in 2025. I will find groups that are against what her normal rulings are. Anonymous donations are legal. Patience is key when dealing with people in power. Exploit them without them knowing and without breaking laws. Even though my son will be old enough to decide by then and courts won't be the power I still feel it's only fair to return the favor for a bad ruling 5 court cycles ago. As I said I refuse to lose or allow something not to be fair. Give others the weapons to deliver the blows and fuel their anger. I will sit back and enjoy. As I stated above-- people are pawns use them accordingly. Their passion and anger will be much more potent with financial backing. That is how you stroke someone in power. Money is power and mine is constantly expanding. Causes like this help drive me even harder. In the end I willl win and I have no fear of the possibilities of recourse. Life is a strategic game; play it to win

 

[QuickTwist]

I could really go into detail about fighting my ex for custody the last 6 years and how I exploited her lawyers multiple times.

Thanks for answering my question on why you are so vindictive.

 

[washti]

@TMB
Jealous. Sometimes this feeling sting me when I desire similar result for myself. But never want this level of effort to achieve it. So the jealousy is very temporary. I think I dont have that many desiress. Low energy, stoic shit and stuff.

Why I would admire any other human being than myself? No one is so grasiously lazy :-) I quit cheerleadering long time ago. Sure I can enjoy someones talents or siklls but admiration... Only being authority is beneficial. Follower is one to be fuck over and being used. And being any form of authority/mentor is fucking hassle.

@Jason988
Neverending improvement, I guess people with such an attitude make society progress (somwhere...) and are fuel for this circle : solution for problem---->creation of the new problem. You see that hamster runing. But geting fruits of their labour is splendid ;-)
But hey, did I get that right, you prefer feel of discontent? That is what makes you going? So the goal behind-the-veil is to never be satisfied with this constant improovements otherwise life is what...wasted?

Jason you sound like someone who live according to this 48 laws of power type of books. If you dont mind -Do you was this way since you were a kid or some later lives events make you?(like situation with your ex you described)

 

[redbaron]

Close your eyes and then imagine being an INTJ

Now open them and clean up your own puke.

<3 u pmj

 

[Ex-User (14663)]

How to become INTJ:

close your eyes and imagine you have autism.

 

[PmjPmj]

<3 u pmj

Duno wot u mean m9 im an ENTJ reffel.

*sobs in corner, silently*

 

[Hadoblado]

How to become autism: Close your eyes and imagine being a mastermind.

Really, OP should specify whether they mean perfection of intellect, or mastery of schemes. They're not at all the same. Either way, I don't think either is worth pursuing for their own sake.

Manipulation is base cunning, and while it can be fun it's always a defined by the difference in savvy between you and a target. That's not mastery, that's just relative superiority.

Being a 'mastermind' intellect is also a type of referencing fallacy. You can be the smartest person on earth and you still won't be objectively intelligent. You'll just be smarter than the rest. Towards what end? Bragging rights. Instead, I think it better to have an external goal, and endeavor to become the person able to achieve it.

 

[Jason988]

@TMB
Jealous. Sometimes this feeling sting me when I desire similar result for myself. But never want this level of effort to achieve it. So the jealousy is very temporary. I think I dont have that many desiress. Low energy, stoic shit and stuff.

Why I would admire any other human being than myself? No one is so grasiously lazy :-) I quit cheerleadering long time ago. Sure I can enjoy someones talents or siklls but admiration... Only being authority is beneficial. Follower is one to be fuck over and being used. And being any form of authority/mentor is fucking hassle.

@Jason988
Neverending improvement, I guess people with such an attitude make society progress (somwhere...) and are fuel for this circle : solution for problem---->creation of the new problem. You see that hamster runing. But geting fruits of their labour is splendid ;-)
But hey, did I get that right, you prefer feel of discontent? That is what makes you going? So the goal behind-the-veil is to never be satisfied with this constant improovements otherwise life is what...wasted?

Jason you sound like someone who live according to this 48 laws of power type of books. If you dont mind -Do you was this way since you were a kid or some later lives events make you?(like situation with your ex you described)

I have always been like this. I remember when I was young seeing my stepdad beat the piss out of their friend just for pretending to step on my moms head when she was sleeping. Fighting was definitely encouraged as child. As I grew I always knew I was different then other people. Most people I could think circles around strategically. I am not saying I am the best in the world but I am far from the worst. Also I learned that emotions can be used against people with ease. Why would you punch someone in the face if you could use words and rip them apart inside. Those are scars that can't be seen and never heal. This was all before I was 16. By 25 I had translatied the same refusal to lose to business. 33 now so I have got much better over time. I suppose I was just raised around that thinking. My dad was ESTP, stepdad ESTJ, mom INFJ, grandfather ENTJ, grandmother ESFJ. Life in general no single event

 

[Jason988]

I have no idea what book your talking about. Never heard of it.

 

[washti]

^ Short summary of every chapter. What you think about it?

http://www.elffers.com/low/start/index2.html

 

[Minuend]

How to become INTJ:

close your eyes and imagine you have autism.

I was actually thinking something similar reading intpf the other day: there's a fine line between being intj and autism

I guess most of the intpf members are old enough to have gone through the feelings vs thinking fallacy and moved on to more constructive thinking. And there doesn't seem to be much shit given to those who haven't

 

[Minute Squirrel]

Lol, I never got why people thought of intjs as masterminds. Every intj I know(at least I'm pretty sure they're intjs) irl is either a NEET, edgelord, or someone who has a lot of potential but instead of actually learning something just skims over it and speculates about the rest(makes shit up, interesting and somewhat accurate shit granted, but still). Or a combination of all 3. "Mastermind" is definitely not the impression I get from them.

 

[ZenRaiden]

What makes you want to be mastermind and why this question if not?

What is mastermind in your book definition?