Rape Prevention Technology

[Ex-User (5841)]

Behold! The penis shredding condom!

Quoting a friend: "When you have no one else to rely on [to prevent rape], sometimes you just have to fill your vagina with spikes and poison."

The article goes in depth about how such a thing doesn't actually prevent rape, but I think it's a good "last form of self-defense when you have to walk 5+ miles to a bus stop in the middle of a desert in complete seclusion and when the POLICE are sometimes the ones raping women."

Any other ideas?

 

[GodOfOrder]

These have been around since the victorian era I think

 

[Ex-User (5841)]

These have been around since the victorian era I think

I think so too, actually... Before that even.


So we haven't invented a better rape prevention technology in like 300 years?

 

[GodOfOrder]

the gun and dagger were always good ones

 

[Hadoblado]

I used to always save up a poo while hitchhiking as a kid, but I only had one choke point to guard XD

 

[Perfectly Normal Beast]

Any other ideas?

I've always wondered what would happen if a potential rape victim convincingly pretended to be 'into' it as soon as the rapist's intentions become clear. Creepily into it.
I suppose it depends on the rapist's motivations as to whether this would put them off.

Fortunately i've never had chance to test this.

 

[Cognisant]

Oral rape, lol, do the words vagina dentata mean anything?

Anyway I don't think the existence of such a thing suggests women are responsible for preventing rape because it's somehow their fault, rather the simple fact of the matter is that men in the broadest sense are animals, now most men are not rapists and look down on that behaviour, violently, as I think we all agree one should, however that behaviour is also because we're animals.

Forget what Disney taught you, in the real world rape is a naturally occurring thing (look up duck penises and vaginas if you don't believe me) which doesn't justify it, not in the slightest, but I'm not talking about ethics, what I'm saying is that there are incubators and impregnators and the genes of the impregnators that don't impregnate get breed out by those that do, so every single man on this planet is from a long legacy of men who got the job done, somehow.

Think about that for a moment.

I'm not saying men are evil, nature doesn't care about such things, what I'm saying is that no amount of education or how harsh the legal system gets this is a problem that will never go away, and it's certainly nothing new, short skirts and modern individualist ideals aren't to blame, nobody is to blame, except maybe the rapists themselves but y'know what person in their right mind would take such a risk?

I'm not saying we should pity them, it's natural that we hate them, just as natural as they exist.

Nature, now that's fucked up

 

[Cognisant]

Any other ideas?

This was suggested in the comment's section:

It would work, there's no denying that

 

[TimeAsylums]

I was actually curious as to the psychological status of rapists, more specifically in what position do most victims get raped? Do rapists desire to see their "prey/fellow human/whatever" eyes or not? Probably dependent upon that certain person, but I'm sure there are some statistics...

Also, in terms of other ideas...nope, I think the article brought up anal/oral rape too. I'm relatively sure that some(most?) people will do anything at gun/knife point anyway.

 

[Wolf18]

To get to and from school, I have to walk through a bad part of town. I always carry a knife, but I've never had a problem. However, I'd have no qualms about stabbing a rapist if I had to.

SW

 

[Jennywocky]

This was suggested in the comment's section:

It would work, there's no denying that

Gawd, that's sexeh....

To get to and from school, I have to walk through a bad part of town. I always carry a knife, but I've never had a problem. However, I'd have no qualms about stabbing a rapist if I had to.

SW

You do what you have to do.

I've gotten used to the idea of poking out someone's eyes with my keys if push came to shove. At least just enough to give me space to run and slow him down / dissuade him.

But if I carried a knife and needed it? I'd use it.

 

[Absurdity]

Oral rape, lol, do the words vagina dentata mean anything?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teeth_(film)

Brave new frontiers in biological engineering yet to be explored.

 

[Wolf18]

I've gotten used to the idea of poking out someone's eyes with my keys if push came to shove. At least just enough to give me space to run and slow him down / dissuade him.

But if I carried a knife and needed it? I'd use it.

The keys are actually a good idea – the rapist might not pick up on the possibility of using them as a weapon, and then you'd have the element of surprise. Unfortunately, I tend to leave my keys at home (my brother always carries his, so I don't really need mine). I'll try to get into a habit of carrying them.

SW

 

[Cognisant]

Another idea, make all males eunuchs at birth and if women want children they can use artificial sperm, completely taking men out of the evolutionary equation.

It would cripple human genetic development but we're already good enough right?

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R795KiMD4zs&desktop_uri=/watch?v=R795KiMD4zs

 

[Jennywocky]

Another idea, make all males eunuchs at birth and if women want children they can use artificial sperm, completely taking men out of the evolutionary equation.

It would cripple human genetic development but we're already good enough right?

It's so sweet of you to suggest hastening your own obsolescence.

We'll erect a monument to you for being so upright.

 

[Perfectly Normal Beast]

Incrementally trickle oestrogen/oestrogenic chemicals into the ecosystem then sit back and wait for all the men to grow moobs and lose the rapey urges.

I think they've made a start on this one already.

 

[Cognisant]

It's so sweet of you to suggest hastening your own obsolescence.

We'll erect a monument to you for being so upright.

Nah that's okay, it's all part of the plan.

Spoiler

To be the one and only forevermore

 

[Jennywocky]

He's got a cute shiny tush. Do you think he has an OKC profile?

Incrementally trickle oestrogen/oestrogenic chemicals into the ecosystem then sit back and wait for all the men to grow moobs and lose the rapey urges.

I think they've made a start on this one already.

Will all the boys with moobs here, please raise your hands?

 

[Ex-User (5841)]

(look up duck penises and vaginas if you don't believe me)

I believe I actually introduced you to this, amirite?

Spoiler

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwjEeI2SmiU

Brave new frontiers in biological engineering yet to be explored.

It would cripple human genetic development but we're already good enough right?

I'm sure selection would stop entirely.

 

[Duxwing]

Another idea, make all males eunuchs at birth and if women want children they can use artificial sperm, completely taking men out of the evolutionary equation.

It would cripple human genetic development but we're already good enough right?

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R795KiMD4zs&desktop_uri=/watch?v=R795KiMD4zs

The technology needed to make artificial sperm might also enable mind uploading and thereby render the issue meaningless but for those hardcore traditionalists who would want to remain biological.

As for rape prevention, how about a twelve gauge shell that contains buckshot or a miniature TASER, sticks out the end of the vagina or anus, and is activated by the wearer's scream? Recoil would be mitigated by slippery, non-toxic padding behind and around the shell. Alternatively, the Rape-X could have copper hooks that link to a capacitor charged with an incapacitating or lethal amperage or regular steel hooks coated in fast-acting neurotoxin. A spring-loaded wire blade located at the entrance to the Rape-X and activated by pressure at the back wall could perform a total penis amputation and necessitate that the rapist immediately call emergency services lest he bleed out.

-Duxwing

 

[Cognisant]

artificial sperm might also enable mind uploading

I'm not speaking to you until you've done some research.

 

[Jennywocky]

As for rape prevention, how about a twelve gauge shell that contains buckshot or a miniature TASER, sticks out the end of the vagina or anus, and is activated by the wearer's scream? Recoil would be mitigated by slippery, non-toxic padding behind and around the shell. Alternatively, the Rape-X could have copper hooks that link to a capacitor charged with a lethal amperage or regular steel hooks coated in fast-acting neurotoxin...

You know, sometimes I really worry about you and the state of the world around you....

 

[Puffy]

I can only imagine this kind of rape prevention technology leading to greater rape protection technology:

Spoiler

bit explicit: http://www.cyberpunkreview.com/images/testsuo12.jpg

Yeah, that was a messed up movie...

I always carry keys on me for the reason summarised above; my college law teacher taught us that, as apparently there is less legal issue using it in self-defence than wielding a knife on someone.

I guess the "snare" would work effectively depending on to what extent it incapacitated the attacker. But really you want to be able to get away - not be locked close with someone who now has a shredded penis and a special reason to be violently pissed off with you.

 

[Duxwing]

I'm not speaking to you until you've done some research.

Reread my sentence. I said "the technology needed for..." before "artificial sperm".

You know, sometimes I really worry about you and the state of the world around you....

Hehehe... when I was younger, I had a lot of trouble with healthy social interaction and handling frustration; I outward turned the latter into screaming tantrums even at the ripe old age of eight, and, unable to socialize well in groups yet wanting attention, I resorted to saying such shocking things as the above idea for rape prevention technology. The feeling of power and control that I experience while imagining causes me to re-imagine others' pain as my pleasure, a thought pattern that in turn makes my imaginings all the more horrible. I also felt stronger than my peers for not reacting with empathy to the absurd, imaginary sufferings. Having chilly dominant Ti and bubbly auxilliary Ne only helped in that end. Yet I now have this whole bag of sadism inside me that I've been trying to calm down for a while: Managing my mental diet--fewer violent video games and videos--has been essential to that end, and I just fell off the wagon again.

-Duxwing

PS I nevertheless appreciate my ability to enjoy imagining doing or inventing horrible things, should I need it.

 

[just george]

Right, so instead of a rapist doing his dirty deed and leaving a deposit of sperm, he is instead going to leave a much larger deposit of blood inside a vagina whose skin is also torn, hence facilitating infection.

Plus if the rapist was using a condom, then that is destroyed, hence spreading infections that otherwise wouldn't be.

On top of that, the man (who is obviously mentally disturbed, if they're doing any raping in the first place) is likely going to be a tad upset, and so instead of running away afterwards, might get it in his head to cave in the girls skull.

Stupidest idea ever.

If the inventor is an attention whore and just wants a bit of publicity, they should just market it as an "oopsie" revenge tool for women who secretly know that their boyfriend cheated on them or whatever it was that made them mad.

Sounds like an ENFP trying to be an inventor to me

 

[Jennywocky]

I guess the "snare" would work effectively depending on to what extent it incapacitated the attacker. But really you want to be able to get away - not be locked close with someone who now has a shredded penis and a special reason to be violently pissed off with you.

Yes, being serious for a moment... there's no need to be able to "beat someone" in a fight esp with the woman being at a disadvantage anyway. As long as you can disable the man long enough to get somewhere safe (and maybe get him caught), then you're good to go.

 

[Ex-User (5841)]

Stupidest idea ever.

I don't see how the risk of infection is any higher. 1) Why do we assume the exchange of bodily fluids? 2) Penicillin.

 

[Jennywocky]

Hehehe... when I was younger, I had a lot of trouble with healthy social interaction and handling frustration; I outward turned the latter into screaming tantrums even at the ripe old age of eight, and, unable to socialize well in groups yet wanting attention, I resorted to saying such shocking things as the above idea for rape prevention technology. The feeling of power and control that I experience while imagining causes me to re-imagine others' pain as my pleasure, a thought pattern that in turn makes my imaginings all the more horrible. I also felt stronger than my peers for not reacting with empathy to the absurd, imaginary sufferings. Having chilly dominant Ti and bubbly auxilliary Ne only helped in that end. Yet I now have this whole bag of sadism inside me that I've been trying to calm down for a while: Managing my mental diet--fewer violent video games and videos--has been essential to that end, and I just fell off the wagon again. PS I nevertheless appreciate my ability to enjoy imagining doing or inventing horrible things, should I need it.

You would have made an interesting child to parent.
(where interesting = scary)

What video games seduced you this time around?

 

[Cognisant]

JG read the article, the barbs don't cause bleeding.

Dick goes in, dick gets stuck, guy will need some scissors to get it off.
The only flaw I see is that it might be difficult to extricate the device from the vagina, but once he realises there's something on him I doubt he would get violent, not least until he gets it out and even then talk about being caught with your pants down.

If the inventor is an attention whore and just wants a bit of publicity, they should just market it as an "oopsie" revenge tool for women who secretly know that their boyfriend cheated on them or whatever it was that made them mad.

I could see that happening, though it would be a sure way to ensure nobody ever sleeps with her again, anyone who isn't a rapist is rightly terrified by even the slightest possibility that they might be falsely accused of rape.

Arguably falsely accusing someone of rape is just as or even more contemptible than being a rapist, precisely because being a rapist is such an incredibly contemptible thing.

 

[just george]

I don't see how the risk of infection is any higher. 1) Why do we assume the exchange of bodily fluids? 2) Penicillin.

Genital skin is thin. I envisage tearing of some kind. Rape usually isn't a "slowly slowly" kind of sex, especially with a mad, confused rapist.

Penicillin isn't a cure for hepatitis or HIV.

 

[just george]

JG read the article, the barbs don't cause bleeding.

Dick goes in, dick gets stuck, guy will need some scissors to get it off.
The only flaw I see is that it might be difficult to extricate the device from the vagina, but once he realises there's something on him I doubt he would get violent, not least until he gets it out and even then talk about being caught with your pants down.


I could see that happening, though it would be a sure way to ensure nobody ever sleeps with her again, anyone who isn't a rapist is rightly terrified by even the slightest possibility that they might be falsely accused of rape.

Arguably falsely accusing someone of rape is just as or even more contemptible than being a rapist, precisely because being a rapist is such an incredibly contemptible thing.

I read it, but am dubious that it would end with a quick "oh look, something is stuck on my wang, ill just leave" from a psychopathic rapist. I could be wrong, but it just seems a little too...neat for reality.

I agree about the false accusation thing btw. I know a guy who went to jail for exactly that - he had sex with a girl who had a bf and got busted. She cried rape, it went to trial (twice), and the justice system did the rest. I would be outright murderous, myself

 

[Cognisant]

I dunno, generally when one feels something sharp against something sensitive one reacts by being very careful, I think getting it out would be priority one, getting it out of an angry woman's reach would be a very close priority two and getting off would be priority three, revenge would be priority four or five depending upon how close police might be. Of course I'm assuming this is an idiot, anyone with half a brain would incapacitate their target first and move them to a secure location (SOP for many professional criminal activities) so something like this would just be embarrassing and inconvenient.

Maybe this would work better?

Spoiler

It could make a guy react violently but if he's already been hurt by the other thing and/or you tell him you've got an STD it might give him something to think about, again I dunno, now I'm assuming this person is somewhat reasonable, which is unlikely, but idiot worked it would be the perfect solution.

Nobody gets hurt and he walks away with something to keep him distracted.
At least it can't be used against the owner like a weapon, lol.

 

[Cognisant]

Just needs some lubricant.

Spoiler

 

[Fukyo]

I read about this some years ago. I think the main purpose is to shame the rapist by making him go to a doctor to have it removed, which would instantly label him as a rapist to everyone present. It should also theoretically give the victim time to get away while the perpetrator is in pain/confused.

This would absolutely not work in a number of scenarios though, like gang rape (the inventor of this iirc has intended it for women in places where rape is endemic like Africa, but I think that gang rape is more likely to happen there anyway), the victim being isolated, tied or date raped.

Other than that a few other things to consider.

That "condom" looks sort of large, it's probably not as comfortable to wear as a tampon. Who knows whether it's actually safe to wear.

For it to work, the woman has to be penetrated, which is still rape, even though (in theory) stds and pregnancy would be avoided. The victim would still get stress and trauma from the event.

 

[Duxwing]

You would have made an interesting child to parent.
(where interesting = scary)

Tack on having just one friend until the fourth grade, sitting alone at recess, ADD, not studying or listening to authority figures, flavor of Aspies, several small health problems, and an interest in home-made explosives, and you have lived decades of misery that my intelligence, good memory, bravery upon the stage, and slight drawing talent might curb.

Adopt me! Polaris doesn't feed me or hug me!

What video games seduced you this time around?

Battlefield 3 It's so pretty...

-Duxwing

 

[Deleted member 1424]

This may be a valid tactic in Africa. Ultimately it's the women's decision to wear such a device. All the what-ifs and debates don't really mean anything, unless there are grounds for making the device illegal. It's a personal decision.

If there was an anal rapex condom I wonder if men who felt vulnerable in prison would wear them? If I was man in an American prison, I would.

I'm not saying men are evil, nature doesn't care about such things, what I'm saying is that no amount of education or how harsh the legal system gets this is a problem that will never go away, and it's certainly nothing new, short skirts and modern individualist ideals aren't to blame, nobody is to blame, except maybe the rapists themselves but y'know what person in their right mind would take such a risk?
:

Not really. You just have to stop rape from inducing a successful pregnancy.
That's not hard at all for anyone with access to modern contraception. Evolution doesn't play by the same old rules anymore.

Plus your typical rapist take considerable measures to minimize risk. They're just as rational as regular people. That's why they would rape a drunk person, a young child, or someone that's easy to physically intimidate and emotionally vulnerable. While that's all morally repugnant it also shows that that there are successful deterrents. The idea that rape is completely repugnant and not just a property crime is very new and not common to all modern cultures. This mentality has already reduced sexual violence and the discrepancy is why something like rapex is legitimate in Africa, but not in other cultures.

It's not a Sysiphian task.
There's still the occasional case of small pox, does that makes humanity's efforts to squash it out futile?

 

[Cognisant]

Pictures of really old people having sex!

Edit: The suicide rate may go up.

 

[Duxwing]

@Adaire Cognisant's point was that we guys all have the rape gene because such a gene, should it exist, would have by now thoroughly mixed into the male population. I don't know whether such a gene exists or whether rape is simply epiphenomenous.

-Duxwing

 

[Jennywocky]

Tack on having just one friend until the fourth grade, sitting alone at recess, ADD, not studying or listening to authority figures, flavor of Aspies, several small health problems, and an interest in home-made explosives, and you have lived decades of misery that my intelligence, good memory, bravery upon the stage, and slight drawing talent might curb.

Adopt me! Polaris doesn't feed me or hug me!

Well, at least we both have a common interest in homemade explosives. But that might not be the most beneficial connection point to be sharing.

Hmmm. Maybe I can divert you into Minecraft or something... It's more mentally interesting than TV.

Battlefield 3 It's so pretty...

Lol. Oh well, that's one game I have never played. I do remember playing some war game with a group of guys once, head to head to head to head, and I really enjoyed the rocket launcher... and was pretty devastating with it.

I remember once running down a stair, being surprised by someone in the dead-end tunnel about ten feet away, and I just nuked him with the launcher and the guy's head flew off when he exploded and rolled around near my feet. All the guys there were terrified of me and avoided that cul-de-sac in the future.

 

[Deleted member 1424]

@Adaire Cognisant's point was that we guys all have the rape gene because such a gene, should it exist, would have by now thoroughly mixed into the male population. I don't know whether such a gene exists or whether rape is simply epiphenomenous.

-Duxwing

Using the idea of an 'x gene' completely discredits you scientifically.

 

[Cognisant]

It wouldn't be a single gene, more likely a combination of factors like decades of sexual frustration, a history of violence, inebriation, rare opportunity, maybe even genuine misunderstanding (to an extent) all of which would make someone desperate and dumb enough to try, y'know we're talking about the 0.1% who go off the rails, every male may potentially be a rapist but the vast majority find the idea abhorrent.

I see serial rapists on the news and I wonder how anyone could get to that point and why they don't just shoot them, but a inebriated and testosterone addled teen or young adult with sexual frustrations in the presence of likewise inebriated and vulnerable young women is a recipe for disaster, or from a biological perspective an opportunity.

Doesn't matter if he gets himself killed if he gets the job done.

 

[Duxwing]

Well, at least we both have a common interest in homemade explosives. But that might not be the most beneficial connection point to be sharing.

Hmmm. Maybe I can divert you into Minecraft or something... It's more mentally interesting than TV.

Incidentally, I played Minecraft for a year a year ago. After a while, I grew bored and moved on to Kerbal Space Program, which is slowly but surely weaning me off warfare.

Lol. Oh well, that's one game I have never played. I do remember playing some war game with a group of guys once, head to head to head to head, and I really enjoyed the rocket launcher... and was pretty devastating with it.

Rocket launcher, you say? Ever fired the 120mm smoothbore of an M1? Or perhaps the GAU-8 Avenger of an A-10? Behold!

Spoiler

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqMcZW7sTH0

I remember once running down a stair, being surprised by someone in the dead-end tunnel about ten feet away, and I just nuked him with the launcher and the guy's head flew off when he exploded and rolled around near my feet. All the guys there were terrified of me and avoided that cul-de-sac in the future.

Grisly. *shudders*

-Duxwing

 

[Ex-User (5841)]

Using the idea of an 'x gene' completely discredits you scientifically.

^

It wouldn't be a single gene, more likely a combination of factors like decades of sexual frustration, a history of violence, inebriation, rare opportunity, maybe even genuine misunderstanding (to an extent) all of which would make someone desperate and dumb enough to try, y'know we're talking about the 0.1% who go off the rails, every male may potentially be a rapist but the vast majority find the idea abhorrent.

Or maybe it's a part of human nature that doesn't need a genetic excuse to hide behind...

I'll argue that the urge to rape is much more prevalent in society and is only abated by a combination of social stigma and sexual alternatives, specifically porn.

 

[Cognisant]

Storming the beaches of Normandy in 1942, Lee-Enfield in hand, pistol by my side, machine gun fire raining down around us as artillery shells flew overhead, jumping over barbed wire and taking cover in the craters, we scaled those cliffs with men dropping like flies, sharpshooters taking out machine-gunners and each other, as we approached the fortifications nazi grenades killed all the men around me but I made it in, shot one in the face, got another with my sidearm and knifed a third as he came round the bend.

Kids these days and their grenade launchers, in my day you took a flag and counted yourself lucky if you had any ammo left for the next.

 

[TimeAsylums]

I'll argue that the urge to rape is much more prevalent in society and is only abated by a combination of social stigma and sexual alternatives, specifically porn.

Why?

 

[Jennywocky]

I'll argue that the urge to rape is much more prevalent in society and is only abated by a combination of social stigma and sexual alternatives, specifically porn.

Why?

Good question.

I am not sure how someone can reasonably quantify "the urge to rape." It's internal and ambiguous and spread out over 300 million people (or a third that or whatever, if you assume women and kids generally don't have the "urge to rape").

 

[TimeAsylums]

Good question.

I am not sure how someone can reasonably quantify "the urge to rape." It's internal and ambiguous and spread out over 300 million people (or a third that or whatever, if you assume women and kids generally don't have the "urge to rape").

Yes, I'm expecting a psycho/social theory rather than any empirical evidence. Still curious.

 

[Ex-User (5841)]

Why?

Good question.

I am not sure how someone can reasonably quantify "the urge to rape." It's internal and ambiguous and spread out over 300 million people (or a third that or whatever, if you assume women and kids generally don't have the "urge to rape").

Yes, I'm expecting a psycho/social theory rather than any empirical evidence. Still curious.

Well, you'll get your psycho-social theory... My logic is as follows:

1) Ethics are merely social constructs. 2) We're born without ethics. 3) Rape is unethical. 4) We naturally do what feels good. 5) Rape feels good to the perpetrator.

So I posit that the carnal urge to rape exists ubiquitously and is suppressed to varying degrees by adherence to ethics.

But I wouldn't limit the urge to males only. Females seek pleasure as well.

Correctness is ultimately a question of the validity of ethics. The act of rape limits the freedom of the victim, so it's not a desirable thing to do unless the "victim" wants it. Now, don't confuse this with that "she deserved it because she wore a skirt" bullshit. I'm talking along the lines of submissive BDSM-type individuals. They do exist.

 

[ApostateAbe]

Behold! The penis shredding condom!

Quoting a friend: "When you have no one else to rely on [to prevent rape], sometimes you just have to fill your vagina with spikes and poison."

The article goes in depth about how such a thing doesn't actually prevent rape, but I think it's a good "last form of self-defense when you have to walk 5+ miles to a bus stop in the middle of a desert in complete seclusion and when the POLICE are sometimes the ones raping women."

Any other ideas?

I was shopping for that device just now. Unfortunately, it is not available for sale on the Internet. I have a friend who is desperately poor, a single mother of two and living with a flatmate who has already sexually assaulted her and is perpetually sexually harassing her. I would love to have him fuck that thing.

 

[Ex-User (5841)]

I was shopping for that device just now. Unfortunately, it is not available for sale on the Internet. I have a friend who is desperately poor, a single mother of two and living with a flatmate who has already sexually assaulted her and is perpetually sexually harassing her. I would love to have him fuck that thing.

hmmm.... Super glue, fish hooks, and a diaphragm?