reasons to postpone orgasm?

[snafupants]

does the intp community think there is a substantial correlation between postponing - prudes leave the room - sexual orgasm and an increase in energy for the organism? the yogis profess transmuting the sexual energy, but this talk might be hogwash. personally, orgasm is great and everything, but when that energy builds up - and it might be purely neurological, physiological, or otherwise provable scientifically at the moment - the following is experienced:

- vastly increased social confidence - normally the thought to expression ratio is like nine to one at best, but it skyrockets to being able to talk and divulge personal information which normally would be kept in an internal supermax prison. this allows me to work on my weaknesses instead of (cowardly) augmenting my strengths and burying my head in the sand.
- enhanced appreciation to moving music - under most circumstances, listening to music is something peripheral, some mustard for the hot dog of study. but after this postponement - mostly not that cognizant - the music affects me on a profound soul level. on an average day, in the back of my mind, its readily apparent that something more was put into the song, composition, whatever and the connection with the music and me is just not happening that specific day. hearing the music more fully is somewhat achieved with marijuana, and marijuana absolutely helps to seperate the sounds, but the emotional aspect was barren with sweet mary j and in hindsight it seemed stupid to do anyway.
- lack of understanding for what anxiety and depression means - this praise or observation is not a plug for some school of philosophical thought or type of religious practice, but it feels like at once theres more emotional vulnerability there and more personal force - a conviction that your views are the right ones. this is definitely related to my first bullet point. ah, the blindness of happiness.

well, thats all for the present; hopefully that was enough. basically, has anyone else experienced the same thing? as it may play a role, what is your gender? what sorts of paradigms, if any, inform your opinions? not that you would need that for validity or something. p.s., my gender is male. p.p.s., right, orgasm has to feel amazing for the human species to propogate...

 

[typus]

- sleep deprivation - normally i can fall asleep within at least 30-40 minutes after going to bed, but when orgasms are postponed it feels like an impossible task.

Also, I have a little theory about why the listed experiences happen (i don't know if they actually do happen on a larger scale or if snafu is a bit wacky, but IF they do)! Easier way to SEXUAL CONGRESS! If one hasn't had an orgasm in a while the body should feel as if it's not all that productive and needs to get a stew going! Being more social and being blinded by happiness should definitely help for sexual selection, right? (I don't know about the music part though! A side effect from the same thing that causes the other things? Like some sort of hormone which causes these things? Man, how should I know!)

 

[snafupants]

those two thoughts crossed my mind already. namely, that those neurochemicals fuel the expansion of the species by making you more socially confident and, second, the anxiety produced by not having orgasm is an extra incentive to (ahem) release. # the second thought is why the notion of sexual transmutation was conjectured or at least broached at the beginning # too much orgasm - apparently there is such a phenomenon - supposedly leads to a depletion of acetylcholine, which probably accounts for some of the fuzzy thinking and poor memory - at least in males post-orgasm. youre right though, it is one heck of a sleep aid; but it might make you sleep while awake as well. n.b., looking your thread over, if you were implying that lack of sleep leads to these feelings, they dont seem to be manifest when orgasm occurs with or without sleep - so maybe that can be ruled out? you seem like a straight shooter - dumb pun - so it doesnt seem you would insinuate that.

typus - your theory is totally valid and definitely plausible. the weird thing is is that when horniness should be at a breaking point (couldnt help myself there), thats when sex is the last thing on my mind. maybe its just me...

 

[typus]

No, I meant that lack of orgasms lead to that. Sleep deprivation does not in my experience lead to being more social or anythin', during the year I slept around 2 h/night during weekdays I felt more like I didn't care about anything really, I also liked DnB a lot more...

But, since I generally am pretty tired (although I thought this was connected to lack of exercise, but it hasn't really changed that much since I started to exercise more) and your actually quite decent pun was the truth I will now start an experiment!

 

[snafupants]

No, I meant that lack of orgasms lead to that. Sleep deprivation does not in my experience lead to being more social or anythin', during the year I slept around 2 h/night during weekdays I felt more like I didn't care about anything really, I also liked DnB a lot more...

But, since I generally am pretty tired (although I thought this was connected to lack of exercise, but it hasn't really changed that much since I started to exercise more) and your actually quite decent pun was the truth I will now start an experiment!

sort of makes me wonder what was happening before. maybe the dino avatar is some indication.

 

[SpaceYeti]

Definitely. postponing orgasm definitely intensifies the orgasm once it does happen.

 

[bloozie]

Cake is hands down better than an orgasm. You should never postpone cake though.

 

[Lostwitheal]

I either really don't know what kind of sex you have, or I really want to know what kind of cake you eat

 

[SpaceYeti]

I just assumed he was lying in order to keep his cake obsessed persona rolling.

 

[echoplex]

hmmm, see I've also heard the opposite argument about the 'increased social confidence' bit. Some have reported feeling more like a raging spaz, so consumed with desire they can't think clearly, their minds so fixated on physical urges that socialization becomes difficult in the same way nearly anything else requiring effort would. But then, it's also true that after a certain amount of time without satisfaction the sense of intensity becomes less, perhaps because your mind/body adapts to going without. Perhaps it's at this interval that social benefits could be enjoyed more fully.
Note: this is based mainly on my own experience + general hearsay.

So yeah, my totally unscientific opinion is that if you're going to postpone, do it for weeks/months/years(only for the brave) to reap the full benefits. A couple days probably isn't going to do it.

Actually, now I'm wondering if there are any studies on the matter. Given the fact that it's about sex I'm sure there are quite a few.

 

[Gather_Wanderer]

I've done this more than once (Purposely withholding from sex. Not an incidental result of my lack of skills in getting it), multiple times for more than a two-month period.

Things I noticed while abstaining:

Dreams become intensely vivid.

This is an interesting one: After a considerable amount of time passes, say, close to one month in elapsed time, I became much more desensitized to my sexual nature. In general circumstances, or for most of the day, the amount of time I spent thinking about it was noticeably less.
But...In the occasional instances I caught sight of something arousing...It would drive me mad. It would appear that all the suppressed tension would come flying to the surface at all once, and I could barely control myself; This ties into the next one.

When your body decides it wants sex, it means it and therefore boldness is vastly increased; I don't if this would directly translate to becoming a more socially adept and accepted person... In my experience it had a near opposite effect on me: I came close once to asking a young lady I knew if she wanted to have sex. Wild and crazy, I understand, but for some reason I felt as though she might agree to it.

Sex is about as addicting or more than nicotine.

 

[SpaceYeti]

hmmm, see I've also heard the opposite argument about the 'increased social confidence' bit. Some have reported feeling more like a raging spaz, so consumed with desire they can't think clearly, their minds so fixated on physical urges that socialization becomes difficult in the same way nearly anything else requiring effort would. But then, it's also true that after a certain amount of time without satisfaction the sense of intensity becomes less, perhaps because your mind/body adapts to going without. Perhaps it's at this interval that social benefits could be enjoyed more fully.
Note: this is based mainly on my own experience + general hearsay.

So yeah, my totally unscientific opinion is that if you're going to postpone, do it for weeks/months/years(only for the brave) to reap the full benefits. A couple days probably isn't going to do it.

Actually, now I'm wondering if there are any studies on the matter. Given the fact that it's about sex I'm sure there are quite a few.

You could also just postpone orgasm during sex. For us males, wait until right before holding out would produce blue balls, then unload. It's fantastic. I imagine women feel something similar, but I could be wrong, since they work differently. They, for example, don't get backed up with ejaculate so far as I'm aware such that the release thereof would be noticeably more pleasurable then just humping until you cum.

 

[snafupants]

fun fact: women have twice the amount of nerve endings - at eight thousand - in their clitoris as a man has in his most sensitive; no wonder some women are nymphos. unfortunately, pictorial evidence can not be presented at this time of high monitoring on the forum. with what bbmcgutt was mentioning about dreams, the same happened to me, but it extended to way deeper meditations and some lucid dream sessions. a few meditations actually turned psychedelic such that spinning orange bouncy balls suffused my entire vision to the point where a chair four feet away would be incomprehensible; there were subjective feelings of levitation and a feeling of harnessing electrical power, especially in my hands. the balls themselves were behaving erratically, much like a cornered photon, but all moving in a uniform circular direction. this was undoubtedly a blast of DMT, as it occured later in the day - when the pineal gland is busy secreting it. those were pretty exhilarating experiences and it surprised me at first that the mind could do that without drugs while ostensibly awake.

 

[Cavallier]

Obviously my first response to this thread was to do a quick Google search in order to get more info:

Search Result

2nd? Really?

 

[snafupants]

a little theory that sprang up - these puns are getting the best of me - was dietary insufficiency in the past and how it relates to the harboring of what the chinese call qi and the yogis call prana; at least components of these notions. basically, my theory is that without readily available proteins and vitamins and so forth practitioners of ascetic religions had to make do with the limited amounts of energizing substances that they had access to and they did this primarily by plugging the leak...or not plugging the leak if you catch my meaning.

 

[Jennywocky]

Definitely. postponing orgasm definitely intensifies the orgasm once it does happen.

I think that's true for men, since a lot of the orgasmic experience is generated by a release of fluid pressure... so, rationally, the larger the pressure drop, the more pleasure. And it takes you time to regenerate sperm/ejaculate and build that pressure back up.

But it's not true for women. ha!

 

[SpaceYeti]

I think that's true for men, since a lot of the orgasmic experience is generated by a release of fluid pressure... so, rationally, the larger the pressure drop, the more pleasure. And it takes you time to regenerate sperm/ejaculate and build that pressure back up.

But it's not true for women. ha!

... "Ha"? You're laughing about not being able to make your orgasms better?

 

[snafupants]

... "Ha"? You're laughing about not being able to make your orgasms better?

if a womens is already better than a mans best, in this instance spaceyetis creme de la creme, then she seems to be sitting pretty. her crowing is justified, in other words.

 

[SpaceYeti]

"If".

Does someone with more taste buds enjoy cheesecake more, or do they simply taste it more?

 

[snafupants]

"If".

Does someone with more taste buds enjoy cheesecake more, or do they simply taste it more?

definitely both with the cake analogy! the amount of nerve endings is related to subjective feelings of pleasure and pain in the organism. think about it this way: one person has a 105 IQ and the other a 147 IQ. for which person will a complex novel be richer for? thats right, the one with more neuro connections!

 

[Beat Mango]

Studies have shown that for the first 7 or 8 days of postponing, as you call it, sexual drive will increase, but after that it will begin to taper off.

 

[SpaceYeti]

definitely both with the cake analogy! the amount of nerve endings is related to subjective feelings of pleasure and pain in the organism. think about it this way: one person has a 105 IQ and the other a 147 IQ. for which person will a complex novel be richer for? thats right, the one with more neuro connections!

But is the only pleasure you derive from sex the feelings you get on your penis head? Sure, they may initiate the orgasm, but they're certainly not the only pleasure.

 

[snafupants]

But is the only pleasure you derive from sex the feelings you get on your penis head? Sure, they may initiate the orgasm, but they're certainly not the only pleasure.

yes, but...my god, that actually is correct. this occasion should be marked with streamers and champagne. for once, we have a valid rebuttal and not random nitpicking over meaning. some copyright and child porn laws may have been violated by posting this pic, but the hell with it.

 

[Jennywocky]

... "Ha"? You're laughing about not being able to make your orgasms better?

That's like Einstein being disappointed he can't get much smarter.

 

[Beat Mango]

That's like Einstein being disappointed he can't get much smarter.

Wow

 

[snafupants]

That's like Einstein being disappointed he can't get much smarter.

although these are good points, four words: menstruation, pms, pregnancy, and menopause.

 

[typus]

Day three. I went to bed 1 A.M. last night but didn't fall asleep until sometime around 3.30 A.M. . No notable difference aside from that.

 

[snafupants]

the blue balls are ruthless; please do not strain yourself too much in this little undertaking.