Your dark side

[Proletar]

I won't specify what the dark side is in this beginning, because that would somewhat cripple the concept of this thread. Just what comes to mind.

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My universal all-timer dark side would probably be depression. I've had my ups and downs for as long as I can remember, sometimes worse than others. My appartment deteriorates and my hygiene, along with my sleep-patterns and food-intake, becomes irregular and everything becomes a chore, right down to breathing and swallowing. Also, thoughts of death and ultimate loneliness tend to suffocate me, along with the haunting realisation of being stuck with my body for the rest of my life. Earlier in my life I could be insecure about me and how I was percieved, now it's mostly about my mortality.

During these periods, I've built up an alternative view of the world. I call it the philosophy of the depressed, and it contains a percieved worthlessness in existance, and a hatred towards man kind and the eternal stupidity and divine injustices that are built into it.

 

[SpaceYeti]

My dark side is probably my habit of procrastinating. There are things I should get done, but I wait until they're more pressing issues to do them. I've noticed I tend to operate under pressure better than not under pressure, but at the same time, the stress makes it unworth the hassle.

 

[Tony3d]

I am a dark side...

Deep down inside I am kind and pure and have a deep love for mankind, my dark side is what you see on the surface, these walls of cold hard logic that dehumanize everything and view emotion as a game that can be won through simply having a better strategy than the next guy.

My dark side is what I present to people. My good side is hidden deep within so it does not get hurt again. It is childlike and immature, so I don't want to see it tarnished by the worlds cruelty. My cold hard robotic dark side can handle the scars.

 

[Cognisant]

My dark side is the side of me opposite to the brightest light source.

 

[redbaron]

I wouldn't be upset if certain people were launched into space, simply for being blatantly stupid and/or useless. The list would go something like:

1. hipsters
2. weaboos
C. people who use the word epic for everything, voiding the word of its meaning
4. metalheads (not to be confused with someone who just likes metal)
5. emos
6. dr phil
7. people who waste what little intelligence they have on social media sites

Anyone who can find a reason to disagree as to why we should launch any of the above groups into space can join them.

Spoiler

I am a dark side...

Deep down inside I am kind and pure and have a deep love for mankind, my dark side is what you see on the surface, these walls of cold hard logic that dehumanize everything and view emotion as a game that can be won through simply having a better strategy than the next guy.

My dark side is what I present to people. My good side is hidden deep within so it does not get hurt again. It is childlike and immature, so I don't want to see it tarnished by the worlds cruelty. My cold hard robotic dark side can handle the scars.

Wow.

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[Tony3d]

Wow.

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So is your face!

 

[EyeSeeCold]

I won't specify what the dark side is in this beginning, because that would somewhat cripple the concept of this thread. Just what comes to mind.

Hmm?

To me dark side means whatever beckons or whatever is repressed. I guess that would be emotions, and some social conventions / behaviors (e.g. smoking and drinking).

I don't really get the thread though so can't really contribute.

 

[nanook]

i wouldn't sell my own grandmother.
but you can have her for free.

that is, if you want her and if she allows the transfer.

my idealism has been severely frustrated throughout my lifetime and i have given up the attempt to live it or advertise it in a forceful/assertive manner. i simply look at my internal idealism as an offer to the world. i am available for participation in a better world, i offer ideas, but when the world isn't ready - and it's always behind, i don't feel responsible. this darkness isn't amoral, evil or negative, it's literal: the innocent absence of light. it's perhaps avoiding to be burned on a stack, but what's left to burn anyway? it's the shadow of my ways, that stands out from a bird's eye view. other issues are details of merely aesthetical significance. who cares about the dirt under the fingernails of a rotten devil.

 

[doncarlzone]

I prefer to read about other's dark sides than share my own. My deepest dark side is the fact that I have a secret that has caused me to lie to everyone I know and care about.

Not as serious as Tiger Woods though :P

 

[Reluctantly]

When I think of a dark side,
I think of pain and confusion,

of being judged inaccurately, unfairly and underhanded, and betrayed, and from the wound this inflicts, not having resolve to correct it,
of being told what is best, even though what is best for someone else isn't best for you,
of being discriminated for suffering,
of being told everything is one's own fault or doing,
of being stigmatized, instead of helped,
of being forced to make a decision between two evils,
of knowing what's wrong and how to fix it, but also knowing nobody is willing to listen to you or believe you or care and help make that a reality,
of having to listen to and accept those who have the most freedoms turn you into their chess piece and think of you as a lesser being, because it's better than the alternative,
of being imposed upon, while others tell you it's your fault for not adjusting,
of the horrors and tortures of human ignorance, of being steamrolled or restrained or mocked or ignored by those who believe they know something, but don't listen to the reason that shows they don't.
and most of all, the anger, rage, and contempt for it all that doesn't seem to really help in the long run, as if it's a sadistic God's attempt to make you mock yourself.

 

[Fukyo]

Apathy, avoidance, escapism, cruelty, anger, selfishness, indifference, dismissiveness, condescension, self absorption.

I wouldn't be upset if certain people were launched into space, simply for being blatantly stupid and/or useless. The list would go something like:

1. hipsters
2. weaboos
C. people who use the word epic for everything, voiding the word of its meaning
4. metalheads (not to be confused with someone who just likes metal)
5. emos
6. dr phil
7. people who waste what little intelligence they have on social media sites

Anyone who can find a reason to disagree as to why we should launch any of the above groups into space can join them.

I think I need to cry into my waifu's bountiful bosom printed on a body pillow now. ;_;

 

[creep]

I'd suppose my dark side would be my indifference and self-serving qualities. Well... that's not my dark side, however, these qualities breed darkness, you could say. On their own, they're fantastic, but... To be honest, I'm not sure why I call the things they call dark. Is that thought of my own design or fostered by societal expectations? I really don't have any problem with the things I do, however, I realize the actions I take have implications and consequences.

I think my darkness is categorized by the amount of pain I give to others and what is unacceptable by most of society. On my own, I really don't bother myself, no matter what I think.

In that train of thought, my own personal dark side is numbness.

 

[Deleted member 1424]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xQmJ_vxHB4

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I use humor to trivialize my greatest, darkest flaws.

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not really

 

[MsAnthropy_Indefatigably]

My dark side is my selfishness in feeling that there are too many kids born every day. I hate hearing someone got pregnant. I don't know how to react. Especially when they have other kids, especially when they didn't plan for and aren't prepared for said kid. Sometimes I feel like putting together a group of protesters and stand outside an OB/GYN office and beg women to have abortions and stop bringing all these useless people into the world. I think this bothers me personally just because my son's father decided to shack up with some chick who thought it was cool to have 3 kids by 2 different guys before the age of 25, then have 2 more with my son's father who already had 2 of his own. I wish I could go back in time and stop people from doing it or stop women from being stupid and not thinking more logically in their choice of men and getting wrapped up in emotional CRAP to be with some worthless man. I wish sometimes I could ask a women with more than 1 kid, so are you done? Are you gonna stop polluting the world with your seed and let the earth breath for a minute??? YOU'RE KILLING THE EARTH!

To me, kids are not a GIFT, they are just humans like the rest of us that people think are cute because they're little, then when they grow up and rob the store you just walked into, I bet they're not looking like much of a gift anymore, are they!?!

BTW I'm a mother of 1 and I intend for it to stay that way. I don't have a problem with people who have A CHILD... even two is pushing it, but acceptable. Every women should be entitled to have ONE child, understandably.... but after that, you're just being selfish and then you wonder WHY you can't sustain a decent life and WHY people are upset you are getting $632 in food stamps every month and WHY you can't do any better in life!!!!

I hate hearing people say DUMB SH*! like "Well we didn't plan to have another, but GOD chose to bless us...." WTF!? NO! YOU, decided it was a good idea to go raw and or not pay attention to your cycle and have a baby! It's science, people, not a God-Lottery! You don't have kids because God made it so! Ignorant-A&& people.

 

[nanook]

it's the stage of ethnocentric consciousness (which includes both an obsession with family and a blindness to issues beyond the own family, such as global or universal stuff), not children or whatever hormons might be involved in their production. i think we all hate conformism (same thing). the stage isn't inherently bad, but it's culturally pathological everywhere, so it has hurt all of us very much - and introverts can sense that, while extraverts are numb to such wounds. i don't feel so dark about it. feeling dark occurs when you want to do something about something but you know somewhat half-consciously that can't work and it's morally wrong. understanding stages of consciousness and memes (cultural pathologies of stages) gives a clear idea about what little change is possible and how or more importantly how not. this enlightens any darkness around this issue. perhaps the earth is about to be killed, or not. it's a neck to neck race. essentially it unfolds mechanically. any involvement into the race can be taken relatively lightheartedly, when it's seen in perspective.

 

[Latte]

The beckoning of the void in which I used to be permanently immersed. The refuge from the desire and capacity for connection with others, society and the collections of ideas of things and thing-types one calls reality.
I am still neck deep, but there is now often sunlight, voices, faces, self-expression and colours undrenched in dark deep blue.

Sometimes I dip.

Sometimes I want to sink and never try to move again.

There is always the lingerling feeling I don't ever want to evaporate this ocean. The lucidity of sound and light not muted and dulled is what I fear and what I want.
The intensity of watching just a mountain unfiltered can flood me with so much sensation, feeling and metaphor and connections that I lose consciousness of my own existence until I flinch, and it overwhelms me unless I am calm and accepting, my wariness and self-protective tendencies not deciding to shriek unbearably.
It often feels like compared to almost every other human there is the choice of walking around with nerve cells covering my entire body or walking around with my outside as unyielding as space.

Not avoiding, and taking care to look for impulses in myself to seek the intermingling of self and people and activities that sometimes or often lead to automatic mindstate relocation towards sensitivity proneness and accompanying direct expressiveness helps tremendously.

 

[shortbuss]

Depression is a problem for me. It drives people away from me, and I burrow further into my maladjusted behaviors I learn from chronic loneliness. I do stupid things when I'm in that state. I mostly abuse substance of any kind, from drugs to television to food to anything I can take for a quick fix. I turn away from people. I don't trust anyone because people seem to be careless and unconcerned more often than not. Quickly I find not much matters to me, and make a game of causing people pause in things I say and what I do, just to see how they react. It's a sad game though because I'm the only one who laughs, and as it goes, I cycle back into self-loathing and confused despair and I feel like shit all over again.

Now I'm smoking cigarettes and losing friends, and considering old addictions. My old friends never laughed when in silences I would say, "Am I really still alive?"

 

[BigApplePi]

My dark side is I don't want to acknowledge my dark side. My wife say I have type A personality. I try to do too many things -at once- multitaskwise. Right now that place where the periodontist pulled my tooth hurts. That was five days ago. I'm tired of taking pain killers, I need sleep but it's too early for bedtime and it's getting me down.

 

[Red Devil]

Constant self-analysis which leads to unnecessary self-criticism most times. Which makes me lose confidence in my abilities. Although I come off as a level-headed calm person, my emotions feel like a train wreck at times. There's so much insecurity and doubt. I wonder if I will ever get over it. There's the paralyzing fear of failure and rejection which I have no idea how to get over. There's the indifference and selfishness. Feelings of wanting to leave everything including people I care about and run away sometimes. And feelings of guilt about feeling that way.

 

[Systems]

I strive to be the best I can be and be true to my ethics and principles. My worst traits are my conceitedness and intellectual vanity.

 

[redbaron]

I wish sometimes I could ask a women with more than 1 kid, so are you done? Are you gonna stop polluting the world with your seed and let the earth breath for a minute??? YOU'RE KILLING THE EARTH!

Ugh, hippies. In the words of George Carlin:

The planet is fine - the people are fucked.

I hereby add environmentalists to my list of people and/or groups that ought to be launched into space.

 

[The Gopher]

I have a dark-side. I feared posting it here as it might consume me. It haunts me in my waking dreams, like a raven in a clouded day it sends shivers up my spine. I walked where I know not and wandered where I could not live. For the pain of living seemed such a burden and the trials and tribulation where for naught. But eventually I came to the place where the rivers cross and wolfs howl of bloodshed. What I was doing there I can not say, but I can say this I discovered the true meaning of dark side. Not this petty side of grey nor this side of displeasure. Tis the side I became when truly enveloped in this pit of despair. In all my moaning and frustration I discovered... I am an INFP.

 

[nanook]

*wants to analyse this*

 

[Jennywocky]

Been thinking about this for awhile.

I've got a few dark sides that are covered already, one of those being procrastination and inability to be sure about a decision long enough to accomplish something wonderful. (And I can also get pretty depressed when I feel trapped, with no apparent way out; the thing is, for me, I only need a little sliver of light coming through a keyhole, and that's enough for me to try yet one more avenue of escape; hope springs eternal.)

I think one of the things that bothers me about me is my need for cues. While I'm introverted and live in my "core," I also need external validation for the world (people, events, some kind of DATA) because I have trouble trusting my own perceptions. I'm always anxious that I've misperceived something and so then all my conclusions are wrong, and I don't want to be wrong about something that I plan to assert and build upon.

And it's not even "one-time" cues. There's the old cliche that telling someone you love them one week doesn't mean that it counts for the next week, you need to say it again. Well, the reality for me is that I need periodic, consistent cues for any kind of data, or I feel like I'm lost in a shaky fabricated world even if I think my perception is internally consistent. I work very hard at trying to stay the course anyway, but inside it can feel like my hold on sanity is slowly slipping unless I reaffirm my perceptions somehow. I just don't like the instability of how that feels.

 

[Minuend]

I have a dark-side. I feared posting it here as it might consume me. It haunts me in my waking dreams, like a raven in a clouded day it sends shivers up my spine. I walked where I know not and wandered where I could not live. For the pain of living seemed such a burden and the trials and tribulation where for naught. But eventually I came to the place where the rivers cross and wolfs howl of bloodshed. What I was doing there I can not say, but I can say this I discovered the true meaning of dark side. Not this petty side of grey nor this side of displeasure. Tis the side I became when truly enveloped in this pit of despair. In all my moaning and frustration I discovered... I am an INFP.

I'm ESFP

 

[BigApplePi]

I only need a little sliver of light coming through a keyhole, and that's enough for me to try yet one more avenue of escape; hope springs eternal.

I think I know what you mean but am not sure.

I think one of the things that bothers me about me is my need for cues. While I'm introverted and live in my "core," I also need external validation for the world (people, events, some kind of DATA) because I have trouble trusting my own perceptions. I'm always anxious that I've misperceived something and so then all my conclusions are wrong, and I don't want to be wrong about something that I plan to assert and build upon.

Are you talking Se here? When I look at Se that takes so much data that unless I'm really skilled I don't know either.

And it's not even "one-time" cues. There's the old cliche that telling someone you love them one week doesn't mean that it counts for the next week, you need to say it again. Well, the reality for me is that I need periodic, consistent cues for any kind of data, or I feel like I'm lost in a shaky fabricated world even if I think my perception is internally consistent. I work very hard at trying to stay the course anyway, but inside it can feel like my hold on sanity is slowly slipping unless I reaffirm my perceptions somehow. I just don't like the instability of how that feels.

Poor Se? Poor Ni? I'm no help here without data. Are we talking people here or things?

 

[Jennywocky]

I think I know what you mean but am not sure.

More specifically, I get really depressed when my intuition and logic sees no "feasible" or likely way out.

But my intuition doesn't give up looking for possibilities, and as soon as I find something that could be viable, my mood lifts and I plunge into pursuing it, to see how it plays out.

It's like being lost in a maze where you feel trapped, but then you find a door unexpectedly, and follow that until you get stuck again, and rinse and repeat as needed. And it's extreme: I don't lose hope until I really CAN'T intellectualize a viable solution, and then I feel like all is lost; yet as soon as I find some possible new branch of the decision tree, I feel energetic and plunge down it.

(I think I've got some pretty intense mix of Ti and Ne here, it's hard to tell which is in charge because they both work together so much.)

Are you talking Se here? When I look at Se that takes so much data that unless I'm really skilled I don't know either. Poor Se? Poor Ni? I'm no help here without data. Are we talking people here or things?

I'm not really thinking functions at all here, because I think it's more a mix of various kinds of cues and there's no need to confine it to a function container.

For example, let's say I'm talking about whether I fit into a group. If I post on an Internet site a number of times and no one at all responds to me for two weeks, then I feel invisible and like everyone hates me... but as soon as I get one response, then I'm like, "okay, I'm actually maybe accepted here" (or whatever level of acceptance was expressed by the responses) and so I'm encouraged to go for another two weeks. But then I need another bit of feedback. It's not just websites, it's work and other social gatherings too. I need a periodic cue from someone(s) so I know how I stand in relation to the group. I know other people who just can either assume they are accepted (or hated, alternately), and then act accordingly.

Same thing with my own ideas. If I don't ever anchor them to the external world, I end up feeling like I've constructed a castle on sand and it might collapse any second. It makes me very uneasy. My world has to be internally consistent AND properly founded.

 

[EyeSeeCold]

There's the old cliche that telling someone you love them one week doesn't mean that it counts for the next week, you need to say it again.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_6uXbufg6E

 

[PhoenixRising]

I am a dualistic type of person. This means that I have both a very light and very dark side. My light side represents my Fe.. as I've seen others say, I have an inner desire to love others and to be kind and helpful. My dark side is the inverse of this. It finds the worst in others, pushes them away and isolates me. It is my defense mechanism.

 

[Tony3d]

More specifically, I get really depressed when my intuition and logic sees no "feasible" or likely way out.

But my intuition doesn't give up looking for possibilities, and as soon as I find something that could be viable, my mood lifts and I plunge into pursuing it, to see how it plays out.

It's like being lost in a maze where you feel trapped, but then you find a door unexpectedly, and follow that until you get stuck again, and rinse and repeat as needed. And it's extreme: I don't lose hope until I really CAN'T intellectualize a viable solution, and then I feel like all is lost; yet as soon as I find some possible new branch of the decision tree, I feel energetic and plunge down it.

(I think I've got some pretty intense mix of Ti and Ne here, it's hard to tell which is in charge because they both work together so much.)

When I get in that state where I can no longer think of a possible way out, my whole Ti/Ne processes just shut down and let the most primative and immature side of my Fe take over.

It isn't the innocent child Fe that I am acustomed to, but something wild and untamed. The only sign of my normal walls of Ti/Ne type thinking left is found in the creative ways I come up with to make people feel bad for making me feel bad.

I get what you are saying when you see some sliver of hope. My Fe will return to that childlike state and let my Ti take care of it again. But the second that my new idea doesn't work, that angry and sorrowful beat form of my Fe returns even stronger, even more hurt, even more ready to hurt others in a sort of revenge for neglecting me.

 

[INeedToPee]

im pretty pissed right now, so im currently on the dark side. it takes quite a lot to actually piss me off because im pretty tolerant (an INTP thing, i suppose), but when i do, it gets dark. even if you are a dear friend, if i am pissed at you, every thought in my head is ways to rip you apart mentally and physically. okay, maybe thats a little intense, but i start thinking about all your flaws and different ways to confront you. and when i'm angry, people just know without me saying anything. i wonder if this is an intp thing

 

[Jennywocky]

When I get in that state where I can no longer think of a possible way out, my whole Ti/Ne processes just shut down and let the most primative and immature side of my Fe take over.

It isn't the innocent child Fe that I am acustomed to, but something wild and untamed. The only sign of my normal walls of Ti/Ne type thinking left is found in the creative ways I come up with to make people feel bad for making me feel bad.

I get what you are saying when you see some sliver of hope. My Fe will return to that childlike state and let my Ti take care of it again. But the second that my new idea doesn't work, that angry and sorrowful beat form of my Fe returns even stronger, even more hurt, even more ready to hurt others in a sort of revenge for neglecting me.

Interesting.

I typically do not externalize things in that way. At times I can become momentarily bitter if I feel I am in that jam because someone else screwed me over -- that's the time where Fe-style thought and feelings can get involved -- but I got over my Fe explosions a long time ago. For me it's all internalized and at worst directed at myself, for feeling powerless or stupid for allowing myself to be trapped in a dead end; and I naturally am bent toward motivating myself to get out rather than focusing my emotions at others.

If I punish anyone, traditionally I've only really punished myself.

 

[psychopathwannabe]

Depends on your understanding of the words “dark side". To say that I have a dark side it is assumed that I have a good side in order to make the dark side well dark. The truth is I don't have a good side hence my dark side doesn't exist as there is no ccomparison.

I do certain deeds that are considered as good in other's point of view but I only do them so I can get my ways. I sometimes help others just to make myself feel good to feel superior. I provide a listening ear to others with patients because I wanna hear their miserable lives I enjoy the misfortune and crisis of others. Once there was a car crash in front of me I ran up to them hoping to see how them suffered, their wounds and if I were in luck, the death of them. Many so called bad people do bad things because they believe those things will benefit them. I do things just because it is in my nature most of the time I have no gains but other suffered.

 

[Extraterrestrial]

I feel I'm very apathetic at times..

 

[Notyouraverageuser]

If anyone knew how much I didn't care about the people around me, they would think I was a psychopath. When my grandmother passed away, I hated the fact that I didn't care. I did love her and she was great to me, but we weren't close.

In the darkest recesses of my mind, I envision myself becoming the reason for a massive uprising that will involve billions of people and ultimately change the world in a permanent way.

 

[MsAnthropy_Indefatigably]

Ugh, hippies. In the words of George Carlin:

The planet is fine - the people are fucked.

I hereby add environmentalists to my list of people and/or groups that ought to be launched into space.

Not at all a hippy or an environmentalist. I think people just need to stop being so selfish with how much they use of the resources around them. I don't think that makes me an "environmentalist", it makes me a realist. I'm sure if there was a study or short questionnaire, it would be very evident that people who have multiple kids are a bleed on the economy more than people (Even single moms/ dads) with 1 or 2 kids. It likely increases the likelihood of being in a relationship you no longer want to be in purely for economical concern, I'm sorry you CAN'T tell me people with more than 2 or 3 kids give each child equal and sufficient attention, especially if they work or come from a single parent home, try to have 1 child and qualify for assistance from the government.... almost impossible,... but have two, three or more.... you get hundreds of dollars a month.

When did George Carlin say that? 1974? The planet is not fine, I'm sure....

 

[Extraterrestrial]

When my grandmother passed away, I hated the fact that I didn't care. I did love her and she was great to me, but we weren't close.

Yup, this is how I felt when my aunt passed away too. I did get somewhat sad though, but only because I saw how bad other "closer" family members took it.

 

[Eclectic_K]

When I experience... my innate darkness it's usually characterized by a deep harbored bitterness toward the world and apathy toward anything I may have been involved in previously. Life is a pain in the ass but ultimately far to predictably systematic in my opinion. So when something happens to push me to the darker side I have to fight an incredible urge to "fight the system" and by that I don't mean fighting the systems that cause the innocent to be taken advantage of. I mean something closer to "destroy the system", upset all balance in the world. Maybe this is a way to rationalize the inner turmoil that contributed to going into the "dark side"? Maybe it's as simple as an expression of my inner spite for the world?