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What would you do if you knew you couldn't fail?

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Well, it first seems that I would do quite alot, right? But then, I wonder how much the possibility of failure actually enhances our experience. Knowing you can fail pushes you to try harder. If you know you can't fail, will you still try hard? Will you even care? I imagine I'd get pretty complacent and lazy since time isn't really an issue. I mean, in a world with failure you often have to find the perfect time to do something, in order to maximize your chance of success. With failure out of the picture, there's no more "I gotta do this now, it's my best chance" thinking. Instead, it's more like "Yeah I could do it now, or wait five years. Whatever." Given the INTP tendency towards procrastination, this could just make things worse.

Then again, I know one thing: I'd certainly approach alot more women than I do now.

I would also be tempted to help make the world pain-free, but only on request. Like someone else said, pain is sort of necessary for pleasure, but knowing you can zap pain at any moment would be pretty awesome. The problem is that people would likely abuse this and try to avoid all pain altogether. A more intelligent society would be necessary for this to work well. Otherwise, I'd fear we'd end up as a society of painless drones who have forgotten what life feels like. We need some pain now and then -- just alot more pleasure of course. :)

Other thoughts:
- Make the education system more effective, or possibly just abolish it
- Develop more effective ways to grow food
- Make sure the government leaves the internet alone, for the most part
- Become some sort of rock star, but then quit as soon as my music becomes boring (would it though? hmmm...)
- Become an author, write some kind of interesting story, incorporate it into my music (rock star, remember? lol), make it into a movie, and then release all three as a total package. The very thought of that seems quite awesome
- As soon as my career and notoriety reach a high level, quit immediately and move to a cabin deep in the woods, never to be seen publicly again. Too much exposure is bad for the ego/mind, and my shit must always stink.
- Invent a way to make shit not stink

There is more, but it becomes stupid. (lol, becomes?)
 

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I think my mind just divided by zero...

What did you just say?
Here's a clearer argument that explains this. For the purpose of this discussion, we're going to use naive set theory, which just says that a set is a collection of objects. Formal, axiomatic set theory doesn't allow this paradox to happen.

Let a set be "ordinary" if it is not an element of itself. An example of a non-ordinary set might be the set of all abstract ideas, as such a thing is itself certainly an abstract idea. Now define another set, say A, which contains all the non-ordinary sets and has no other elements. We ask the question, is A an element of itself? If it is, then it isn't, because all of A's elements are sets which are not elements of themselves. If it isn't, then it is, because A contains all the sets which are not elements of themselves. This is called Russell's paradox.

The "layman's explanation" that tends to be given for Russell's paradox is: imagine a town with a barber who shaves everyone who does not shave themselves and no one else. Does the barber shave himself? If he does, then he doesn't; if he doesn't, then he does.

The effect of this on axiomatic set theory, in simple terms, is that you can't simply define a set using any rule which defines a consistent logical statement. Things like "a set is an element of itself" become problematic.
 

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Here's a clearer argument that explains this. For the purpose of this discussion, we're going to use naive set theory, which just says that a set is a collection of objects. Formal, axiomatic set theory doesn't allow this paradox to happen.

Let a set be "ordinary" if it is not an element of itself. An example of a non-ordinary set might be the set of all abstract ideas, as such a thing is itself certainly an abstract idea. Now define another set, say A, which contains all the non-ordinary sets and has no other elements. We ask the question, is A an element of itself? If it is, then it isn't, because all of A's elements are sets which are not elements of themselves. If it isn't, then it is, because A contains all the sets which are not elements of themselves. This is called Russell's paradox.

The "layman's explanation" that tends to be given for Russell's paradox is: imagine a town with a barber who shaves everyone who does not shave themselves and no one else. Does the barber shave himself? If he does, then he doesn't; if he doesn't, then he does.

So, you could be speaking about God. lol?
 

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I would invent the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy and make it accurate. Then I would fall and miss the ground :D
 

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wow... you must be super for not fail.. i dont believe if someone never fail.. when you are kid (about 1) and try to walk, i think you fail there.. you must try more than 1 to walk.. and many other example...

Of course! This thread is simply an exercise in imagination, not reality. A mind experiment. The responses are interesting - no?
 

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Of course! This thread is simply an exercise in imagination, not reality. A mind experiment. The responses are interesting - no?
If I couldn't fail, I would eradicate full moon busy bees from the forum ...;)
 

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I would eradicate cruelty in all its forms. I'd like to say suffering, but there are too many other issues involved with that. There are side-effects with my choice as well, but I really cannot abide jilted lovers throwing acid in the faces of their exes. That is just bullshit.
 

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I would not try.

I dont try to sleep, be cause I know I will regardless. Likewise I would not try to do anything because I would not fail in succeeding, even without doing it.
 

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Fix the world.

Or at least mostly fix it. I don't trust myself to be 100% objective or informed about what's best for the entire world, so I'd only nudge it maybe halfway towards my ideal.
 

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If I could not fail at anything I would not do anything.
 

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Do you only do things if there is a risk of failure then? I think that may be too simplistic. Don't you sometimes do things for pleasure, for necessity etc?
 

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If you can get the pleasure of doing them without doing them, or any other reason for doing something, whats the point of doing it?
 

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Create my ultra-complicated idea of a one world government. ( I could seriously write a book with the amount of information I have piled up on this idea.) In fact I might do that someday :D . Also test out each of the methods thought to be possible to use to stop aging. Then create the impossible: create an unlimited source of energy upon which the laws of physics don't apply. Colonise space. Etc. Not a lot of stuff really :P
 

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Nothing. If plans of mine fails to fail, then it'd be a bit too predictable.

wait, mayb i'll plan to fly.
 

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I'd learn everything.. everything there is to know.. ever. If I can't fail, that means I'll remember everything I hear and see and read because forgetting is failing to remember. And I'll learn everything instantly because I won't have to go through the process of learning delayed by forgetfulness and a failure to understand. Oh and I'd have to be able to live a very very very long time to gather all of the information (I wouldn't want to live forever.. just until I get tired).
 

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I'd get into MIT. :]
 

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If I couldn't fail, my reasons for much of what I do would be gone. On the other hand, most of those things are just maintenance on my life. Given certain infalibility, I'd turn to a life of service to others. It would be the only thing left worth doing.
 

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First I would try to forget this is just a fantasy.

Then I would publish a paper explaining, The Six Tools Used to Understand Anything. After that I would revise and expand the paper. After that I would report back here to read the reviews.
 

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First I would try to forget this is just a fantasy.

Then I would publish a paper explaining, The Six Tools Used to Understand Anything. After that I would revise and expand the paper. After that I would report back here to read the reviews.

I want to know what they are!!
 

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First, I would try to fail.

Ouch, wouldn't this cause reality to suffer an error? I wonder what happens when reality suffers an error (if such a thing were possible).
 
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