What are lower IQ people better at than high IQ people?

[k9b4]

If IQ is not a measure of 'overall' brain function, then people with low IQ must be better at some things than high IQ people.

High IQ correlates well with mbti intuition doesn't it? So would that mean that low IQ people are better than high IQ people at things that sensors are better than intuitives at?

 

[Hadoblado]

Lyfe

Low/average IQ people are not tempted by the trap of defining themselves by their IQ.

If IQ is not a measure of 'overall' brain function, then people with low IQ must be better at some things than high IQ people.

That doesn't follow. What it means is that high IQ doesn't necessarily make you better at everything. It doesn't dictate that IQ is in any way a burden.

High IQ correlates well with mbti intuition doesn't it? So would that mean that low IQ people are better than high IQ people at things that sensors are better than intuitives at?

The correlation didn't seem that strong IIRC (I could be wrong). While an interesting thought, it feels like a stretch. Type for the most part isn't really supposed to dictate inherent competency, IQ is.

 

[k9b4]

Type for the most part isn't really supposed to dictate inherent competency, IQ is.

"Inherent competency"? What does that mean? Competency at what in particular? IQ is a measure of a specific skill-set (which varies depending on the specific IQ test). Usually pattern recognition or some king of logical reasoning.

IQ test does not test for ability to throw a basketball into a small hoop. Therefore, IQ score is not a good indicator of a person's inherent competency at throwing a basketball into a small hoop.

 

[Hadoblado]

"Inherent competency"? What does that mean? Competency at what in particular? IQ is a measure of a specific skill-set (which varies depending on the specific IQ test). Usually pattern recognition or some king of logical reasoning.

IQ test does not test for ability to throw a basketball into a small hoop. Therefore, IQ score is not a good indicator of a person's inherent competency at throwing a basketball into a small hoop.

It means you're good at IQ tests, and anything the IQ test measures. I didn't say it was a measure of all types of inherent competency. Dork.

 

[k9b4]

It means you're good at IQ tests, and anything the IQ test measures. I didn't say it was a measure of all types of inherent competency. Dork.

You said that IQ test is a measure of inherent competency.

Anyway, what are low IQ people better at than high IQ people?


EDIT: I realise now that people with a high IQ are not necessarily bad at the same things. I was thinking kind of like a dichotomy, like MBTI.

 

[Direwolf]

Depends on the people your comparing. Eg a guy has high iq and is unco as fuck if he tries to cross a tightripe faster than a professional with low iq, who do you think will win?

 

[scorpiomover]

Driving, sports, socialising, getting a date, and doing the other things that most people find more naturally easy than Sheldon Cooper.

 

[The Gopher]

Scoring low on an IQ test while trying.

 

[Ex-User (9086)]

IIRC ISTJ was the type with the highest average IQ (the variance was small however), people with aspergers, great number crunchers and socially inept, requiring assistance in day-to-day life, but very potent academically and otherwise.

Generally speaking there are no things that a healthy high iq person will be worse at than a healthy low iq person. Other maybe than their range of goals in life/interests, which will be different.

 

[k9b4]

IIRC ISTJ was the type with the highest average IQ.

I think you mean INTJ

 

[Ex-User (9086)]

Hahaha, this N bias. Of course I meant S. Research this yourself please.

edit:
The talk of MBTI and IQ is more and more resemblant of midichlorians and SW universe.

 

[Absurdity]

Violence, breeding, etc.

 

[Analyzer]

IIRC ISTJ was the type with the highest average IQ (the variance was small however), people with aspergers, great number crunchers and socially inept, requiring assistance in day-to-day life, but very potent academically and otherwise.

Generally speaking there are no things that a healthy high iq person will be worse at than a healthy low iq person. Other maybe than their range of goals in life/interests, which will be different.

Doesn't surprise me. ISTJ is like the standard bearer of what something like this test is designed for.

 

[StevenM]

IIRC ISTJ was the type with the highest average IQ (the variance was small however), people with aspergers, great number crunchers and socially inept, requiring assistance in day-to-day life, but very potent academically and otherwise.

Generally speaking there are no things that a healthy high iq person will be worse at than a healthy low iq person. Other maybe than their range of goals in life/interests, which will be different.

Actually, I wonder how they came to this conclusion.

SJ's being the most frequent and common type:

If MBTI did not have any correlation with IQ, you would expect that more frequent types have a slight edge in any category.

 

[Analyzer]

Having lower IQ makes it easier to be a politician or bureaucrat.

 

[Fukyo]

What's your IQ?

 

[Cherry Cola]

Hahaha, this N bias. Of course I meant S. Research this yourself please.

edit:
The talk of MBTI and IQ is more and more resemblant of midichlorians and SW universe.

Intuitives score better at IQ tests yes, this is a well known fact. Hahaha, you must be really stupid or uneducated to think that ISTJs have the highest mean IQ score. Fucking snowflake.

 

[Ex-User (9086)]

Intuitives score better at IQ tests yes,(...)
Fucking snowflake.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RroB_8Lhogs
lalala .

 

[Black Rose]

What's your IQ?

(g) is 115

 

[Cherry Cola]

Blarraun=troll

"Hey gusy ISTJ for highest IQ "

*new guy without any social standing points out that Blarraun is wrong*

"Omg N-bias hahaha u so stupid"

 

[Ex-User (9086)]

Blarraun=troll poking fun

"Hey gusy ISTJ for highest IQ "

*new guy without any social standing points out that Blarraun is wrong*

"Omg N-bias hahaha u so stupid u so cute"

Maybe? I don't want to be conflicted with the highly intelligent N - types . That would be an unnecessary disturbance in the force.

 

[Cherry Cola]

I will never forgive

 

[k9b4]

What's your IQ?

1 million

 

[Hadoblado]

Having lower IQ makes it easier to be a politician or bureaucrat.

I'd be surprised to find the average IQ of people in either of those occupations to be sub-par.

 

[Analyzer]

I'd be surprised to find the average IQ of people in either of those occupations to be sub-par.

Maybe, but than you would figure if they were actually *smart* enough they would become bankers instead. Being a bureaucrat requires a certain level of idiocy and incompetence compared to their other superior cohorts.

 

[Hadoblado]

Maybe, but than you would think if they were actually *smart* enough they would become bankers instead. Being a bureaucrat requires a certain level of idiocy and incompetence compared to their other superior cohorts.

That's a pretty wide brush you're swinging.

Are you saying that they're stupid in an IQ sense, or that they're stupid only in the sense that they ended up being bureaucrats?

 

[Analyzer]

That's a pretty wide brush you're swinging.

Are you saying that they're stupid in an IQ sense, or that they're stupid only in the sense that they ended up being bureaucrats?

Yeah I'm not sure. Stupid in general I guess, screw IQ,EQ or any other tests.

 

[k9b4]

Stupid in general

I don't think it's true that all people in any one profession are 'generally stupid'. I don't even think you would find any correlation between any profession and 'general stupidness'. Assuming you mean 'general stupidness' to mean some lack of ability in all areas.

EDIT: I definitely agree that you would find a correlation between IQ and profession, since IQ is a measure of some specific skill-set (usually pattern recognition or logical reasoning).

EDIT: Actually, perhaps you would find some correlation between 'general stupidness' and professions which require low use of any area of the brain.

EDIT: The reverse would also perhaps be true. You might find correlation between 'general smartness' and professions which require high use of a number of different skill-sets.

Generally it definitely is probably

lol

 

[Latte]

Having lower IQ makes it easier to be a politician or bureaucrat.

Politicians at least seem to be pretty clever in regards to what most of them perceive their primary jobs to be and what they actually get hired (put into power) through, which is to appeal to the minds of normals.

It's harder than it may look, because even if one says stupid things, one has to make it not appear stupid to a large portion of normal people, and one has to do this pretty consistently, at least in regards to the voter demographic one has in mind. In addition to this, they need to say it with the right rhythm, body language, etc, and do so interactively in debates and on air. All of this must be done while championing the special interests of campaign donators or other... more *cough* private *cough* donating agents, while making it seem like it's "good for everyone".

In regards to bureaucrats, IDK. Low level bureaucrats will tend to be average people, high level ones are probably a mixed bag between social-navigation adept leeches (requires somewhat high IQ) and competent technocrats (IQ)... unless they are underpaid, in which case competent technocrats will be vastly more private sector attracted as you mentioned.

Generally it definitely is probably more easy to climb topwards as a social-navigation adept person in the public sector, though... because there's less metrics used to evaluate the performance of individuals in middle management there than in the private sector, and the toppest of the top dawgs are elected people who often don't even have a master's degree or equivalent understanding about whatever they are in charge of... and sometimes don't care much at all about efficiency (the equivalent to private sector profit, basically).

 

[dark+matters]

Actually, I wonder how they came to this conclusion.

SJ's being the most frequent and common type:

If MBTI did not have any correlation with IQ, you would expect that more frequent types have a slight edge in any category.

INTJs are among the highest IQs according to this (and most other) pages: http://www.celebritytypes.com/intj.php ISTJs don't seem linked to high IQ according to most pages I recall seeing though.

 

[TBerg]

My hunch is that those with high intellectual capacity grow addicted to intellectual pursuits and neglect other areas of growth, thereby falling into arrested development. High intellectual capacity is never in itself a handicap unless you count the incapacity of falling for common inane crap.

 

[TBerg]

Reading the subtext of social situations, instead of focusing on the solely literal value of it, is a great compensation for me.

 

[sushi]

socializing and fitting in, anything else about them is crap.

 

[ZenRaiden]

My IQ is 98 I suck at everything including a date. This is my rap mate.

 

[TheManBeyond]

I usually score around 105 - 118 so i must be a normal person, i'm good at composing rock music imo xD, i'm good at finding precise words to express a certain thing, not in english atm tho, xD. I think i'm not bad at drawing, not creativily speaking but like copying a certain pic or whatsoever, specially for the fact that i don't draw like ever, sometimes i wish i had learnt technique stuff and got deeper into artistic paintings and shit, i think i would have been a good artist but as i entered puberty i got tired of it.
I'm good at creating weird stories, i'm good at lying and faking it without people notice, which is weird cuz one of my weak spots is my kid honesty.
I'm good at going down the stairs quickly.
I'm good at playing instruments.
I think i'm good at improvising jokes. I usually make people lol kinda easily, the problem with this, is that this only happens when i'm in true confidence with those, that could be 1 year or more since we first met.
I'm good at convincing/encouraging people to make things and then repent of doing them and blaming me for their choices.
I'm good at chill out.
I'm good seducing a woman without any effort, that shit happened like 5 times, it's about the aura i guess, tenderness, child looking astronomy romanticism, fake humbleness that precedes my my face coming out of the rain, which is pure egoism and self loathing attitude + self hate, low self steem becuz i know i'm stupid. People are strange.
I'm good at nothing important.

 

[Brontosaurie]

"child looking astronomy romanticism" fuck yeah???

 

[EyeSeeCold]

Not over-thinking situations?

 

[Perfectly Normal Beast]

Not over-thinking situations?

wow. i didn't even realize that was a thing.

*bashes head against wall repeatedly*

 

[Ex-User (9086)]

Not over-thinking situations?

[bimgx=500]http://badmoneyadvice.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/ThinkingChimp.jpg[/bimgx]

 

[ZenRaiden]

I like all those idiot savants with IQs lower than 100 capable of doing things even people with IQ 400 could not do.

 

[~~~]

SFP stuff.

 

[Hadoblado]

I like all those idiot savants with IQs lower than 100 capable of doing things even people with IQ 400 could not do.

Shit. How had that not been said yet?

*throws kudos*

 

[Meer]

Saving money, according to some random news article I am not going to link.

 

[StevenM]

What are lower IQ people better at than high IQ people?

Beating me up just outside the school grounds.

 

[Pyropyro]

Having a high IQ means that you're just good at answering IQ tests. :P If you're intelligent then it simply shows through your academic and job performance.

I really prefer people with grit rather than those with supposedly high IQ.

 

[k9b4]

If you're intelligent

What does this word even mean?

 

[^_\\]

Well IQ tests measure your ability and interest to focus on small, subtle patterns, and to get in gear for a test, so someone with the same general mental ability that does worse on an iq test might do better at something that requires more diffuse focus or more sustained efforts, or lower stress efforts, or motivating themselves non- "extrinsically".

or they might be better at backflips on motorcycles or fighting, where the important thing is understanding what to focus on and directing your focus there, possibly using "se" as a crutch, and not understanding the most about the situation.

Or they might do better at reading and influencing people, which is "Fe" I guess.


Really they could do better at almost anything. IQ tests test for general mental ability extremely obliquely. The ability to focus on small, subtle patterns or give half-decent definitions of obscure words or whatever else they're doing nowadays is one that can be low without any other ability being low. I'm sure I would have done a lot worse on my iq test if I had known how thin the science was behind it, or objected more to the idea of putting myself forward for quantification and ranking by standards I didn't understand.

That's it's own form of weakness of course: there's generally no reason against full effort on a "test" even if you know it's dumb: agreeing to take it and do your best to impress does not constitute condoning of the standard -Impressing people on dumb measures they don't understand can just be useful, because misunderstood dumb measures are 90% of measures.


edit: yeah and of course iq is in no way a disadvantage unless it's happened to cause or be part of some pathology. Going as close to 999% as is sustainable, and seeking to improve your average engagement/focus/whatever your mind does to do well at stuff, in general, and on "tests" of every kind is a good idea and quite difficult.

 

[Cherry Cola]

getting featured in pornos where they suck dick

 

[Cæilon]

not having their heads up their own arses with superiority complexes.

 

[Cherry Cola]

pfft they have those too, dont u know bout dunning krugah