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I want opinions from other INTPs about it, if you think it's nice, if you think it is stupid, anything, I want to know what INTPs think about it.

Personally, I am wearing purple today, and I think it's nice because this way, people can show others that they are not homophobic, so gay people do not think that they're alone and everyone hates them.

So? What do you guys think?
 

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Had I been homosexual I'd probably be pretty annoyed, I didn't know it existed before just now though
 

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Is there really need for a distinction to be made between gay people and the rest of the world? Does same-sex sexual orientation automatically qualify one as having a particular subset of qualities, such as liking the colour purple, dance-pop, speaking with a lisp, etc., that make them inherently alien to the rest of society? And if not, wouldn't it be better to encourage wear any colour at all to support the diversity of thought, tradition, culture inside the gay community and showing the rest of the world that we're not so different after all?
 

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I am wearing black to show my support for dead people
 

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you do realize that it's to show support because of the recent suicides of a bunch of gay teens due to homophobic abuse?

i wore purple today, and was happy to see a whole bunch of people from my school doing so as well, including some teachers (who, like, actually referenced the day and weren't just coincidentally wearing purple). homophobia is still a serious problem, especially in a lot of more rural places (in america, i dunno about everywhere else) that nobody really thinks about. i mean, really, try being openly gay in some hick town in west texas. bad idea.

so yeah, i think it's really nice, and i'm glad i participated in it.
 

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This explains why no less than three people talked about purple today. I couldn't figure out why it kept coming up and didn't ask because I didn't want to get stuck in a conversation.

I have several gay pride rainbows on my pack which I take everywhere. I just want people to stop being violent and bigoted. Plus, if some silly ribbon on my pack makes somebody feel uncomfortable I figure they need to be shook up a little.
 

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you do realize that it's to show support because of the recent suicides of a bunch of gay teens due to homophobic abuse?
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so yeah, i think it's really nice, and i'm glad i participated in it.

Well, said, shoeless. I hope that someone who was feeling alone will see all the purple and realize they have more support than they knew.

@Cavallier, I think rainbow pride ribbons count as support no matter what color you wore today. Anyway, shaking people up is fun.
 

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I am completely in the dark about these "awareness days". :confused:

I guess it's an environment thing. I live "under a rock" so to speak. A homophobic rock, which explains why people wouldn't be talking about it much.
 

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I was going to wear orange to show my support for all us straight people who are constantly accused of being homophobic assholes, but then I remembered that I don't give a damn.
 

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yes, because straight people are accused of being homophobic on the basis of being straight ALL THE TIME.

because people are really that stupid.

yup.
 

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I think it's a dumb concept and an impractical solution.
 

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I did my part in wearing some purple today, every little bit counts right?
 
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Yay, nice to see I'm not the only INTP (well, I sometimes doubt that I'm an INTP, but I think I am) that wore purple to show support.

I hope that someone who was feeling alone will see all the purple and realize they have more support than they knew.
That exact phrase was on my mind, actually.

An INTJ (not sure if he's an INTJ, but I'm pretty sure) from my school thinks it's stupid, he thinks everything people are doing because of those suicides is stupid, arguing that a lot of people commit suicide everyday, that they only receive all this attention because they were gay so they should be treated specially. Heh, I guess you can see the difference between Js and Ps in things like that.

INTJ: "Everyone and everything is stupid."
INTP: "Well, homophobia is wrong and irrational, and if I wear purple I may be able to make someone feel that (s)he is not alone."

Inferior (but still there) Fe, perhaps?
 

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I have a purple sweater which I am wont to wear in a goofy mood, but it makes me look Grimace from McDonalds. It's a nice sweater, but it does cause some double takes.
 

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I have a purple sweater which I am wont to wear in a goofy mood, but it makes me look Grimace from McDonalds. It's a nice sweater, but it does cause some double takes.
I think we share the same closet.
 

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I just like purple I mean come on it's a colour that goes good with black. Sure it has some meaning behind it but why not wear green for people that are suicidal in general and I don't know about these awareness days either. I was told it was "are you ok day" in australia on the 7 oct after I integogated someone on why they asked. If you do care about someone you should ask them anyway.
 

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Heh, I guess you can see the difference between Js and Ps in things like that.
INTJ: "Everyone and everything is stupid."
INTP: "Well, homophobia is wrong and irrational, and if I wear purple I may be able to make someone feel that (s)he is not alone."

Some of the nicest people I know are INTJs, but they sure don't like to be told what to wear, or having their non-conforming clothes criticized. And gay rights isn't everyone's issue.

straight people who are constantly accused of being homophobic

@SQ_Minion, I have some sympathy for your point of view. Gay people can't be mainstream until the straight mainstream accepts them, and constant accusations of homophobia aren't helpful or fair. People who do that are jerks.
 

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I admit I participated. And I have several either gay or bisexual friends, all of whom either also participated or at least appreciated the gesture of those who did. It's not really an issue about equality of gays as humans, it's simply about outright abuse and phobia. So I think a little awareness is justified.

With that said, I've also felt a little bit annoyed upon seeing facebook statuses prompted by the recent suicides. You know, like the chain ones? While I care about the issue of homophobia in general, emphasizing recent events to get people to care has to be some sort of fallacy. Your INTJ classmate has a point--lots of people do commit suicide. Wording things to make it sound like this is solely a gay community (or new) issue is wrong.
 
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Some of the nicest people I know are INTJs, but they sure don't like to be told what to wear, or having their non-conforming clothes criticized. And gay rights isn't everyone's issue.

Sorry about that, I guess I wasn't specific enough. By INTJ, I meant that friend, not all INTJs. And yes, I respect his decision not to wear purple, of course. I don't know about other INTJs, but he's one of the most stubborn people I've met, very hard to convince of anything.

Huh, I didn't know that the non-conforming clothes was an INTJ thing...
 

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With that said, I've also felt a little bit annoyed upon seeing facebook statuses prompted by the recent suicides. You know, like the chain ones? While I care about the issue of homophobia in general, emphasizing recent events to get people to care has to be some sort of fallacy. Your INTJ classmate has a point--lots of people do commit suicide. Wording things to make it sound like this is solely a gay community (or new) issue is wrong.

Yeah because that makes it worse for people that are suicide prone people wondering if there gay or thinking what about me doesn't anybody care about non-gay suicides (not that that is logical thinking but suicide prone peole don't think logicly normaly)
 

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I think it's a dumb concept and an impractical solution.

Concur. I just don't really understand what it's supposed to accomplish, and I'm not even sure that I agree with it on idealistic grounds. That said, it is a shame how homophobic many people still are.
 

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Concur. I just don't really understand what it's supposed to accomplish, and I'm not even sure that I agree with it on idealistic grounds. That said, it is a shame how homophobic many people still are.

Agreed...
 

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I am coincidentally wearing purple today even though I hadn't heard of this.

Why is purple representative of homosexuality?
 

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I'm all for supporting the downtrodden and lowly...

I just don't see why it has to specifically be 'young homosexual suicides' in this case when they account for relatively little of the suicidal population and whom probably aren't, if they in a nasty situation involving covert and personal bullying, going to find much comfort in seeing a few fellow creatures wearing clothes with a particular energy reading.
 

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I wouldn't over-analyze it or take it out of the realm of human emotion here. Skimming the thread, there seems to be a lot of complaints that are forgetting that this is a particular cause that happens to be in the public awareness right now, so it's being dealt with... just like 9/11 was a big deal the month after it happened and then faded.

Lots of people get cancer, but it's not wrong to have a breast cancer campaign. It doesn't mean other types of cancers are being ignored, or the fact that all people eventually die is being forgotten. It's just meant to provide some public affirmation towards a particular group of people.

LGBT kids are especially susceptible as a social minority that isn't even allowed equal marriage rights (well, the LG) in the US, and there is often moral stigma attached to their behavior which to them they view as their IDENTITY -- so their whole identity is being run through the mire and it comes across as being told they are bad people because they identify as LGBT. This social movement was meant to fly in the face of that.

Is there really need for a distinction to be made between gay people and the rest of the world? Does same-sex sexual orientation automatically qualify one as having a particular subset of qualities, such as liking the colour purple, dance-pop, speaking with a lisp, etc., that make them inherently alien to the rest of society? And if not, wouldn't it be better to encourage wear any colour at all to support the diversity of thought, tradition, culture inside the gay community and showing the rest of the world that we're not so different after all?

I think it was just to show solidarity so that, if someone looks at you and sees you wearing purple, it's a clear cue that you are supportive and bear good will toward them.

That's what we're talking about -- emotional affirmation.

A lot of these suicides happen because people look around the world and see only disapproval, disgust, even hate. The purple is a visual cue supporters/wellwishers can use to cue LGBT people that they're accepted.

Cues are extremely important when someone's feeling that they're in an oppressed minority and that everyone is against them and so they must be "bad". Anything to alleviate that negative social pressure is helpful. If you walk through a world you thought was full of haters and you're seeing purple everywhere, it totally changes how you view the world and maybe even how you view yourself -- you realize you're a lot more acceptable than you were feeling based on the typical cultural silence or negativity.

moocow said:
I am coincidentally wearing purple today even though I hadn't heard of this.

Why is purple representative of homosexuality?

It's not.

But if it was some more common color like blue, there's more chance people would wear blue without it meaning anything. The "cue" might just be pure chance. Rarer colors suggest purposeful intent on the part of the wearer.

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Amor Anti[/B]]With that said, I've also felt a little bit annoyed upon seeing facebook statuses prompted by the recent suicides. You know, like the chain ones? While I care about the issue of homophobia in general, emphasizing recent events to get people to care has to be some sort of fallacy. Your INTJ classmate has a point--lots of people do commit suicide. Wording things to make it sound like this is solely a gay community (or new) issue is wrong.

I'd guess if someone wanted to start a movement to support "suicidal teens" regardless of their sexual pref, there's nothing wrong with that. This one was specifically aimed at the group it was because of the recently publicized slew of such suicides.
 

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I think it was just to show solidarity so that, if someone looks at you and sees you wearing purple, it's a clear cue that you are supportive and bear good will toward them.

That's what we're talking about -- emotional affirmation.

A lot of these suicides happen because people look around the world and see only disapproval, disgust, even hate. The purple is a visual cue supporters/wellwishers can use to cue LGBT people that they're accepted.

Cues are extremely important when someone's feeling that they're in an oppressed minority and that everyone is against them and so they must be "bad". Anything to alleviate that negative social pressure is helpful. If you walk through a world you thought was full of haters and you're seeing purple everywhere, it totally changes how you view the world and maybe even how you view yourself -- you realize you're a lot more acceptable than you were feeling based on the typical cultural silence or negativity.

Is there any research to back up the effectiveness of cues? I'm not saying there isn't, I'm just curious. In my eyes, if someone is depressed or has enough issue with their problem to begin with that they are contemplating suicide, I really don't think cues like "everyone wear purple" is going to help. I admit, though, that it's subjective opinion.
 
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