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THe Voice in My Head

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I never thought I would end on this board again, but I have a problem (and I don't know where to put it, because there aren't any mini descriptions of forums under the name... SO move as needed)

I have been plagued as I search and stumble the internet... I come upon posts and things I know to be incorrect and the voice starts saying: Correct them, correct them, correct them, correct that, you must, they've obscured the truth, must correct them... When I don't do it, because for some reason I might not be able to (like a locked topic or I'm not a member of the board) it begins to scream and hate. Hate the person who is wrong, condemn them, etc...

I see bold, large, red letters that say : MUST CORRECT!

I'm going crazy, I can't stand it.
I may very well have to make a poster, I can see at all times while surfing the web, that says: "The Internet Is For Stupid (so don't freak out)". I'm freaking out.
 
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Zero: The Fool said:
Hate the person who is wrong, condemn them, etc...

Why don't you start a blog here where you can post your corrections or something? That way you'll at least be able to vent.
 

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If possible, take it with humor. Realize that those poor, stupid little people will never learn the truth and you are more powerful than they are. They're just ridiculous. ;)
 

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That sounds like a pretty disruptive obsession you seem to be developing... are you at the point where you're actively looking for things that strike you as wrong?

I don't think the world's ever changed - it has always functioned in the same way, with most humans generally being wrong all the time... So, any solution is going to have to come from your letting go of this need (or maybe desire would be the more appropriate word.)

There's more wrong out there than you could ever hope to fix - and you'd squander your life attempting to do something about it.

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XKCD had a thought on your conundrum...
 

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I have thought of starting a blog, but I'm somewhat concerned it would turn into a rant.

I do not go looking for people who make incorrect statements, or give rotten advice or mislead people. I stumble upon them. Take this site by Dr. Boeree: http://webspace.ship.edu/cgboer/jung.html
I've seen people quote this before with some confusion when it comes down to the typing. It says that INTPs do not make good writers. That might not seem like a big deal to some people, but it is. INTPs are notorious writers and Jung himself was an INTP. Also, other misleading statements or incorrect statements could be in his work, so what's there to trust? This man would appear a valid reference to someone who wasn't versed in Jung's work. According to him, he graduated with his PhD in Psychology from Oklahoma State. His own theories I find scrambled and difficult to understand. For some reason he lives with the Amish, which I find strange. I could not find any easy way to contact him.

There are many sites that are not official or well researched that make statements about Jung's types that are misleading. That's important to me, because it confuses people, even makes them feel bad about what they are.

I guess my issues with correcting might be getting worse since I haven't had an outlet for my argumentive side for a while. I haven't been on a forum or anything. Ironically, I've been involved in writers groups (as a writer, but primarily an editor). Technical (and copy) editing would be a sensory tendency (dealing with details). Maybe I've overspent my sensory function.

You know the hierarchy as some people have theorized:

Thinking
Intuition
Sensing
Feeling

I was strongly encouraged (*cough* forced) to take the MBTI at the last university I attended. I told them I alreayd knew my type and as a matter of fact wasn't that fond of the MBTI. I ended up taking it and my "clearest" trait was Thinking. IN and P were moderate (according to CPP's test).

Has no one else experienced this issue or anything similar to it?
 
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I don't think it would matter if you made a rant blog. Maybe not many people would read it, but it's primarily for your own benefit.
 

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I... do have a journal... Rant blogging is adding more crap to the internet. It's a waste of space. So few actually contribute and it's a shame.

That "solution" aside, I'm growing concerned that no one else seems to experience something like this?
 

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Maybe it's more of a general, but not so common "problem". So you might not necessarily find many people with the same experience on INTPforum but will have to look on a more general scale.

Might fit:
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...That's true and funny? I suppose... you're right...

Are you an INTP?

(If not let me guess, yeah? I mean please.)
 

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I have not experienced what you describe with regard to online content. It does however annoy me to no end when people make what I see as false or inaccurate statements. I have an impulse to correct them. I have been able to 'let it go' more recently however I don't know if it's apathy. It's almost by being a party to the conversation and not saying anything, especially when the other person is describing me that I am being complicit in lying by letting what I see as misinformation go unchallenged or uncorrected.
 

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Yes, I am INTP. But my Fe is also relatively strong.
 

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I don't care so much about it when it's vocal.

As a matter of fact, I had a friend like you, who would correct me (sometime incorrectly) whenever I said something. I'm not sure what type she was. She was really into sports and there was always an exact way things were. When I tried to describe ideas to her she would always correct me. When I pronounced something wrong she would correct me, when I didn't know the name of some actor or confused an actor she would correct me. I learned a lot from her, but it was fucking annoying sometimes. She also wasn't very in touch with her intuition, when she had blips of it she was like amazed and would tell me about it and I'm sure I stared at her dumb.

She was a case of extremes. She would be embarrassingly playful and cute, then other times serious, the boss and the one who knew when you were wrong. I don't know if she was an ISTP? ESTP? She didn't mind being around people, but she didn't strike me as an extreme extrovert.

I also know someone who just Knows Everything. It's not only that she corrects you, but she gives commentary on everything. It irritates the ESTP she works for, but I find it hilarious.

I'm not sure if it's even possible to type her with her emotional issues and all... With my friend I understand that she just likes every detail to be right, even when it's annoying, I can put up with it as one of her quirks. The other girl it seems like a cover up, a desire to be more in charge and competent looking.
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. . . I analyze everyone. It's like a disease. . .

Anyway, I don't worry too much if people are vocally wrong, seeing as I'm apparently wrong quite a bit and people's opinions of me are usually good. I can't really change an opinion. It's interesting to know what people think of me.

Yes, I am INTP. But my Fe is also relatively strong.

Oh Really? I could tell. Haha (I had a shitload of sugar). Hmm, The ONLY trait that showed up remotely strong on my CPP MBTI test was Thinking. My weakest is Introversion.

I do have a sense of humor. . . Somewhere. . . . I swear. . .
I just don't find blatant truths funny. Even when it's dressed up... That sense of humor is more common to Feelings types. I never get jokes like that. I like dry humor and situational comedy. And morbid, off humor (like asofterworld).
 

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. . . I analyze everyone. It's like a disease. . .

Well, it's your strongest trait. Other people use other functions all the time and it's like a disease. But because we are analyzing we find out that we are analyzing. :rolleyes:
 

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. . . I analyze everyone. It's like a disease. . .

*sticks up hand* Oooh, I can relate to that!

...Eh, seriously. Friends, teachers, coworkers, fictional characters, type developers... ;)

Though, with what JoeJoe said, my friend is an ENFP with a wicked strong Ne. Her brain is constantly producing ideas, possibilities, and even random images with only a vague connection to the stimulus that inspired it. There's issues with that like there's issues with an over-strong Ti. I often find it hard to bring her down and explain how the hell she got somewhere because she's bouncing off what-could-be and sometimes has issues with the why-that-is-so/how-that-makes-sense. She has problems with preciseness because she's compelled to dive into the side possibilities; her essay on Dickinson was originally based on one poem's message, but she ended up adding other poems and different takes on Dickinson's views on the brain until her entire thesis had to change to accommodate the new material.

...sometimes I am very thankful for an auxiliary Ne. Otherwise, communication would be tough. XD

...and this isn't off topic in anyway. :D
 

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... When I don't do it, because for some reason I might not be able to (like a locked topic or I'm not a member of the board) it begins to scream and hate. Hate the person who is wrong, condemn them, etc...

I see bold, large, red letters that say : MUST CORRECT!

I see those letters too! I do the same thing. I sometimes join strange forums just to correct a fact, never intending to return; instead, I often get wrapped up in whatever random subject I was correcting...
Since I have hundreds of weird interests and a brain stuffed with useless trivia, I come back from time to time to hundreds of groups and forums. I am interested in almost everything, and can't limit myself to only a few main subjects or objects; whereas many online acquaintances are entirely focused on their one subject or hobby, and don't understand how I can care about anything else.
I usually don't bother correcting mistakes in conversation: normally only in what is written, as I don't want others to believe a mistake or lie; however I may correct something that came up in a group conversation after the fact, but usually with a third party that witnessed the error, rather than confronting the mistaken person. "The peacemaker" was my result from the enneagram test I did, and that fits me perfectly in person. Online, I could be described as a "militant fact verification officer".:evil:
 

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The worst part of being an analyzing INTP, is that we do not stop at analyzing and identifying a problem. We must correct the false statement and substitute our own.

Would you agree?
 

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The worst part of being an analyzing INTP, is that we do not stop at analyzing and identifying a problem. We must correct the false statement and substitute our own.

Would you agree?

Yes.:evil:
 

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zephryi, That reminds me too much of my brother. He's not an extrovert, but he has a crazy thinking process. Sometimes I think we'll be discussing one thing and suddenly he'll spout something entirely random.

One time we were talking about plate tectonics in the ocean, at least that's what I was thinking we were talking about. Suddenly he says a line from an anime, for some reason he was reminded of an anime on the ocean and then thought of his favorite character and that character shared a voice with Piccolo from DBZ and for some reason when that came to mind so did a line from Piccolo- which he then said.

So here I am talking about the deep trenches in the ocean floor and how plate tectonics was the theory that explained this and he suddenly says, "Dende's balls." I was: WTF and had him explain what he was talking about and how he'd gotten there. I have no idea if he's an S type or an N type though. I think he's probably IxFP? He doesn't really do anything creative, he's a gamer. Just random as hell.

It sounds like your friend goes indepth into her thought process, while my brother's is just random.

I try not to let my thinking overtake my clarity. I use to have a problem like your friend (probably still do). However, I wouldn't add poems or perspectives, I would give "Except in this case" scenarios and get off topic. I have to stop myself when I'm writing and go back and either relate what I wrote back to the original or completely delete it. I won't detour so far from my original thesis to make a new one unless the new one is definitely better in some way.


motrhead, I have to stop myself from randomly joining forums. I usually see that what I came upon is really old and it might be locked, hence no point in joining, but it still irritates me. I've gotten close to Emailing admins and support to tell them.

I've been involved in a lot of different hobbies and groups. People are obsessed in their singular hobbies and it's hard to make friends in those situations. I had a really disappointing experience in trying to join a hobby and a group and was hoping to have a social outlet with people with a similar passion. However, I found our personalities too extremely different. They were very emotional and personal, while I was fascinated and curious. I couldn't make friends and ended up leaving the community in a horrible fight that's left me scared to this day and with hatred for people.

My enneagram was kind of confusing. I was a five with a wing four or a four with a wing five. In reality people think I'm very creative and kind. It's my way of avoiding tiresome vocal/social conflict and speaking without speaking. Sometimes, I go so far as to simply point or make expressions to communicate. My appearance is a part of my communication, people often fail to understand that.

One of my friends mentioned she once saw someone who dressed in an amazing way so she thought they must be really interesting and went out of her way to meet that person, to find they had the blandest personality on Earth. She decided it was compensation. I guess it is, I don't think I have a boring personality, but I do compensate for not being loud, clear or good with speaking.

Duck, Yes.
We at least need to give our perspective/theory. Then again, if I see one more retard say Plan B is the abortion pill I might abort them. It's not you idiots, I took an endocrine class. Plan B is made with a pseudo progesterone, which causes a mucus plug to cover the cervix opening. Thus not allowing sperm to pass through. It imitates a part of pregnancy, so you shouldn't over take it, because your body will start to think you're pregnant and progesterone fat is impossible to get rid of. (This grievance curtsy of morons on Yahoo Answers. And it was closed!)
 

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As for the compulsion to correct, that happens to me too. Not to that extent, though. And I don't get it nearly as much as I used to.

. . . I analyze everyone. It's like a disease. . .

But it's frequently a fun disease. :p

He's not an extrovert, but he has a crazy thinking process. Sometimes I think we'll be discussing one thing and suddenly he'll spout something entirely random.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WikiWalk
I do that.
 

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The content beyond the link you posted frightens and confuses me.

I can't wiki walk so easily. Everything has to be thought of to some extent, thoroughly... or vaguely... It's not zap to the next subject and the next. I can do that about three times, do three clicks, but I read slow and think a lot... It would consume my life...
 

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That reminds me too much of my brother. He's not an extrovert, but he has a crazy thinking process. Sometimes I think we'll be discussing one thing and suddenly he'll spout something entirely random.

Okay, I am guilty of this. My brain just can't wait around long enough while engaged in conversation, then I start making random connections, and drift off to all kinds of crazy places...just like that. :o


This grievance curtesy of morons on Yahoo Answers. And it was closed!

Oh, yes! I had to join Yahoo Answers to correct some stupid and wrong answers , but they (infuriatingly) close their old questions. They should stay open so we can correct them!:evil:
 

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When I'm not paying attention to a conversation I'm quiet and I look off. Eventually it becomes apparent I'm thinking about something else. Since some people in my family are prone to politics I egg them on and carefully argue my point. People who don't agree with me I egg on and use that "Well this guy would say" approach to avoid an "actual attack". I tend to carefully change the conversation if I don't care for it or I leave somehow.

My Bro on the other hand, showed me the site stumbleupon. And that's like my impression of him. When he is bored he uses his built in Brain Stumbleupon.

I hate Yahoo Answers... so much... And all sites like that I come across...
 
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I never thought I would end on this board again, but I have a problem (and I don't know where to put it, because there aren't any mini descriptions of forums under the name... SO move as needed)

I have been plagued as I search and stumble the internet... I come upon posts and things I know to be incorrect and the voice starts saying: Correct them, correct them, correct them, correct that, you must, they've obscured the truth, must correct them... When I don't do it, because for some reason I might not be able to (like a locked topic or I'm not a member of the board) it begins to scream and hate. Hate the person who is wrong, condemn them, etc...

I see bold, large, red letters that say : MUST CORRECT!

I'm going crazy, I can't stand it.
I may very well have to make a poster, I can see at all times while surfing the web, that says: "The Internet Is For Stupid (so don't freak out)". I'm freaking out.


Three letters in an anagram! Decipher COD!
 

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.... I don't get it.
I need to change that H...
Someone needs to change the H...
 

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Three letters in an anagram! Decipher COD!

I thought that I had long ago *completely* outgrown what I considered to be a mild case of OCD (I managed to keep it hidden from almost everyone). Are you suggesting this is related, and I haven't really outgrown it?:phear:
...and all this time I believed I was just doing a service for humanity...
 
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I thought that I had long ago *completely* outgrown what I considered to be a mild case of OCD (I managed to keep it hidden from almost everyone). Are you suggesting this is related, and I haven't really outgrown it?:phear:
...and all this time I believed I was just doing a service for humanity...

well, i guess one COULD say that what you just described sounds like a case of someone having quite a compulsive obsession, only whether or not it is a disorder remains to be seen. heh.

:phear:
 
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