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I keep delving deeper into the function of cholesterol and I don't have a clue how to control it beside dietary changes which are digested by the stomach before entering the blood stream, the conversion rate is like 10%. The science is incomplete or the perpetual myth surrounding cholesterol is just wrong.

I just want to see how long I can live off eggs and fish as my main form of animal protein.

If anyone can clarify before I go through another search let me know.

Watch out for mercury content in fish. I'm starting to having adverse effects from having salmon nearly every single day. So I'm creating a food cycling plan to minimize those effects to introduce some variance/balance. I wish I could have avocado but I'm allergic, at this rate leafy greens are some of the very few types of things I can eat without having reactions which is really, really fucking sad. Olive oil and nut butters are fine, or canola oil. Going to have to up my minimum carb intake by ~5g. I guess it's fine. I've been at the peak level of ketogenesis, I don't need keto sticks to tell me I'm doing the right thing for my body when intuitively I'm physiologically reacting oddly to the point where it affects my thinking.

As for eggs, I get that it's a good whole protein/fat source, though I've seen negative cardiovascular impacts of having too much (several eggs/day which a lot of bodybuilder types like to do). Haven't looked into it since I can't have eggs anyways, but I know lot of people who have validated this. It's better to take preventative measures. I have family who have gotten heart surgery from too much cholesterol + too much red meat (in their 40s to 60s) so it's really not something to take lightly. They had to stop working for months on end and borderline almost had to leave their jobs. It just is not worth taking the extra time/effort to optimize based on your own dietary restrictions or preferences. And, really, no one wants to deal with heart surgery.

So yeah:
Plant-based fats (avocado, canola/avocado oil, any non-hydrogentated oils) will do the trick if you're cholesterol-conscious. Making it actually palatable is insanely, insanely hard, but I can tell you for a fact that the food industry is already working on that, we can expect healthy fat keto meat substitutions probably within a year to a few years from now, maybe even earlier, Bezos and Mackey are definitely likely to be thinking about it.

I'm not in the food industry, but I've been mostly right about my food industry forecasts my entire life.

The diet change just never ends for me, if only I could stick to a handful of foods that were atomically nutritious (couldn't reduce those foods further), that'd be good. Yeah I've been eating a lot of fish and 95% is mackarel, I'll have to cut that out.

Eggs are a strange topic, so there's High Density Lipoproteins (HDL), Low Density Lipoproteins (LDL) and Very Low Density Lipoproteins (VLDL). Cholesterol is produced by the liver in response to fat content particularly Omega-6s, so when eating highly saturated fats your body produces more cholesterol, while the dietary cholesterol associated with the processed meats/fats your eating plays a negligible role as digested lipoproteins don't make it to the bloodstream. The problem with cholesterol is it's a thick oily substance that can clog up arteries and vascular systems by blocking blood (which consists of water) from transporting. HDL and LDL are transporters of cholesterol, HDL is a better transporter of cholesterol in the bloodstream and thus it's less susceptible for cholesterol to leak out of the transport molecule into the bloodstream.

Still, I'm not eating good eggs. I got free range because the nutritional density, but I also got caged eggs for a protein source (15 caged eggs for £1.15, 10 free range eggs for £2.00 (discounted from £2.75)) when I get my next pay check I might have to start eating chicken or something, the horrors. But yeah I'm subsistence and making the best of the diet so far, I'm working out 2-3 times a day with 15-20 intervals, just a lot of push ups and sit ups to improve blood flow and utilise the protein.

Things that don't require cooking - for the keto college student (I swear I could write a book on this): turkey/chicken sausages/hotdogs and variants (microwave it), spinach salad with olive or canola oil (cost efficient but you might get hungry), certain vegan burgers, spinach

Meal prep: chicken cooked in a lot of canola or olive oil, cook it on Sunday, refrigerate or freeze surplus

I also found the keto diet was pretty expensive too.
If you do the above it'll be cost efficient - Spinach, canola oil, olives, poultry-based sausages. Boom - No cooking necessary. Minimize the chance of cardiovascular disease.

are you feeling fatigued/limited as the days go by?
Nope, my mental clarity is fucking epic. The only thing that ever holds me back is allergies when I try to introduce a new food.
 

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Maybe you should write a thread on it, I would surely appreciate it. I'm not sure if I done much research regarding diet plans, I just searched for food that had low carbs and getting large portions of beef, chicken, fish olives and cheese. I remember thinking "A shake has plenty of fat and saturates in it, I could have a shake!" I couldn't find low carb alternatives, sad times. The keto diet's been on my mind since I started college, I'll definitely keep in mind turkey sausage, not a fan of red meat but out of all the meats I've ate I was always pleasantly surprised from turkey sausage.
 

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Also I loved your last statement

Nope, my mental clarity is fucking epic.

It feels so out of place from the way you usually speak, it took me back a bit haha

Appreciatin' the unexpected.
 

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does anyone have any recommendations for a good norwegian book, that can be found online? something that isnt too difficult.
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Im guessing that means do you speak nederlansk and no
I know some swedish decent bit of norsk and english.
its odd how many languages use some variation of sprach språk sprechen for language. is that a germanic thing or what?
I just google translated that and it says its norwegian, what dialect is that? is it nynorsk?
 

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Just woke up from a dream, smelt this pungent smell, it got stronger, when I moved I felt it on my leg. I freaked out, looked at it in the dark and thought it was shit. Bounced out of bed, thought it was frogs instead but when I turned on my light nothing was anywhere to be seen.

After checking everywhere I can't find anything, though I still can smell the remnants and I have a phantom tingle in two parts of my body where I thought these stuff were.

This is a weird dream disruption because its usually just visual, I can't remember experiencing smell.

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Spreekt iemand Nederlands?
Im guessing that means do you speak nederlansk and no
I know some swedish decent bit of norsk and english.
its odd how many languages use some variation of sprach språk sprechen for language. is that a germanic thing or what?
I just google translated that and it says its norwegian, what dialect is that? is it nynorsk?

The word 'språk' is bokmål, but its etymology is germanic from 'sprake', which to me sounds more Dutch.

Nynorsk is fucked. Don't bother with it, unless you have special interest in linguistics or are planning to move to some isolated village on the west coast.

If you are interested in why Nynorsk exists, this wiki article explains it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nynorsk

So Nynorsk is 'Landsmål' = country wide spoken dialect, while Bokmål (derivative from Danish occupation) is Riksmål = Kingdom written dialect, or perhaps the closest analogy in English would be 'Received pronunciation'.

In terms of book recommendations , I would suggest anything by Knut Hamsun, but perhaps it would be a bit too much since it's quite old. The short novel "Pan" is one of my favourites, you should be able to find a free version somewhere although finding it in Norwegian would probably be a challenge.
 

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Just woke up from a dream, smelt this pungent smell, it got stronger, when I moved I felt it on my leg. I freaked out, looked at it in the dark and thought it was shit. Bounced out of bed, thought it was frogs instead but when I turned on my light nothing was anywhere to be seen.

After checking everywhere I can't find anything, though I still can smell the remnants and I have a phantom tingle in two parts of my body where I thought these stuff were.

This is a weird dream disruption because its usually just visual, I can't remember experiencing smell.

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@moody What's a random thought you've had lately?


Umm. ......

I saw an article suggested to me that make me so angry....it's called: "China perfected the fake meat decades before the impossible burger" https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/...-intl-hnk/index.html?utm_source=pocket-newtab
WTF
Jeez..., maybe that's because tofu is just a food and people only use it for fake meat! I despise the assumption that having a diet without meat is somehow living in abstinence, and anything else that has "protein" is "fake meat." :angry::angry::arrogant::bad::pissed-off::pissed-off:
Presumptuous morons...

Office supplies give me much joy.

I give the elevator compliments every-time use it, just in case it becomes sentient one day and decides to break down, drop and kill me.

I keep trying to stop procrastinating, but every time I get started on something I suddenly remember something else important, do that, then forget the other thing(s) i have to do, and when I finally set to doing them, the same thing often happens, and all of the sudden it's too late. This happens whenever I try to leave in the morning, I keep forgetting every little thing, and why do I think like this.

Why, thank you for asking me! And you?
 

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Umm. ......

I saw an article suggested to me that make me so angry....it's called: "China perfected the fake meat decades before the impossible burger" https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/...-intl-hnk/index.html?utm_source=pocket-newtab
WTF
Jeez..., maybe that's because tofu is just a food and people only use it for fake meat! I despise the assumption that having a diet without meat is somehow living in abstinence, and anything else that has "protein" is "fake meat." :angry::angry::arrogant::bad::pissed-off::pissed-off:
Presumptuous morons...

The most protein per calorie food is: chicken and eggs.. basically, everything chicken aka schnitzel. There is 0 point in eating anything else for protein... unless... you want to lose all your gains brah. This is what commies do, they lace their products with soy & plastics. The next thing you know is your breasts start growing, producing soy milk and you decide to play candy crush on your new Chinese phone, transition & cut your dick off.

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Why enjoy food, when you can eat chicken schnitzel with mashed regular potatoes every day. The foundations of my castle, heck, even the walls were made chicken schnitzel by chicken schnitzel held together with mashed potatoes.

The fact that I can only cook schnitzel and mashed potatoes is irrelevant here, I'm practically a modern-day woman as far as cooking skills go.
 

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Umm. ......

I saw an article suggested to me that make me so angry....it's called: "China perfected the fake meat decades before the impossible burger" https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/...-intl-hnk/index.html?utm_source=pocket-newtab
WTF
Jeez..., maybe that's because tofu is just a food and people only use it for fake meat! I despise the assumption that having a diet without meat is somehow living in abstinence, and anything else that has "protein" is "fake meat." :angry::angry::arrogant::bad::pissed-off::pissed-off:
Presumptuous morons...

The most protein per calorie food is: chicken and eggs.. basically, everything chicken aka schnitzel. There is 0 point in eating anything else for protein... unless... you want to lose all your gains brah. This is what commies do, they lace their products with soy. The next thing you know is your breasts start growing, producing soy milk and you decide to transition & cut your dick off.

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Your thinking of un-fermented soy, I think. That's what can mess with you, if you are male or have food sensitivities. (Something like that, but I'd have to look it up again to see if I'm getting anything backwards...)

Also...are you asking me to take you're word for it? Because you gave no evidence to back up your assertion of there being "no point to eating anything else for protein." Regardless of protein-to-calorie ratio, a diet with chicken and eggs is not superior to a vegan diet solely based of the fact that it includes chicken and eggs. I get that this was not your point, but it's highly offensive to infer than your diet is superior based off of one factoid that you're not even giving evidence for. I know that you probably meant no offense, but I've to deal with off-handed derogatory comments my entire life, and I'm a getting a little worn-out from them.

There is nothing you can gain from a diet with meat that you can't from a vegan diet. It's true that B12 is harder to get without eating meat. However, the only reason B12 is found in meat is because the animals ingest B12 from the soil. If we didn't wash our food, there would be a lot more resources of B12.

Here are a few articles about benefits of a vegan diet.
 

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Day 28..

Dear diary, father's shitty sense of comedy haunts me to this day..
There is no escape.. people on the internet still don't get my jokes..
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...mm daym! Potatoes taste better with salt!
 

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Spreekt iemand Nederlands?
Im guessing that means do you speak nederlansk and no
I know some swedish decent bit of norsk and english.
its odd how many languages use some variation of sprach språk sprechen for language. is that a germanic thing or what?
I just google translated that and it says its norwegian, what dialect is that? is it nynorsk?

The word 'språk' is bokmål, but its etymology is germanic from 'sprake', which to me sounds more Dutch.

Nynorsk is fucked. Don't bother with it, unless you have special interest in linguistics or are planning to move to some isolated village on the west coast.

If you are interested in why Nynorsk exists, this wiki article explains it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nynorsk

So Nynorsk is 'Landsmål' = country wide spoken dialect, while Bokmål (derivative from Danish occupation) is Riksmål = Kingdom written dialect, or perhaps the closest analogy in English would be 'Received pronunciation'.

In terms of book recommendations , I would suggest anything by Knut Hamsun, but perhaps it would be a bit too much since it's quite old. The short novel "Pan" is one of my favourites, you should be able to find a free version somewhere although finding it in Norwegian would probably be a challenge.
Thanks. I havent touched nynorsk yet since from my understanding bokmål is written/more widely spoken in cities. I cannot seem to find the book in norwegian, but I will keep an eye out for it. Norwegian is such a pain, because most languages have lots of material for teens/ or even adults but everything intended for people over 13 is all just english. Damn your country and its bilingual population. Also finding foreign books online is a trick since there arent many Norwegian books in America from what i can tell. Finding interesting things to watch on nrk.no has even been difficult lately.
 

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Thanks. I havent touched nynorsk yet since from my understanding bokmål is written/more widely spoken in cities. I cannot seem to find the book in norwegian, but I will keep an eye out for it. Norwegian is such a pain, because most languages have lots of material for teens/ or even adults but everything intended for people over 13 is all just english. Damn your country and its bilingual population. Also finding foreign books online is a trick since there arent many Norwegian books in America from what i can tell. Finding interesting things to watch on nrk.no has even been difficult lately.

If you're prepared to pay a bit (NOK 79, which is about 8-9 USD) you can get it from ebok.no: https://ebok.no/ebok/pan_knut-hamsun-8/

His book "Sult" is probably the most famous though for its (at the time)"groundbreaking" use of stream-of-consciousness style of writing.

If you click on the drop-down menu on the bottom right of the book icon that says "gratis utdrag", you can read a preview to see if it is appropriate for your level of norwegian. nrk.no is really tricky if you live abroad, and I guess "Fjernsynsteatret" can only get so interesting....:ahh:
 

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What is this ebook shit, my sensor brain needs to touch the book, smell it, taste it, talk to it. Jokes aside I will give it a look.
and for NRK
 

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for some reason I really liked the lovleg series, and the one where the young adults talked about their mental illnesses. It kind of helped me realize how people are supposed to cope, with friends and support... and stuff
 

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Yeah, as much as nrk has become peppered with rubbish it is still possible to find genuinely interesting and helpful programs. Not sure how you'd go with nrk radio, but if you liked that mental illness series you may enjoy "Hos Peder" (unless you've already heard it) particularly the first series where he counsels young people with all kinds of issues.
 

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I actually havent checked out the radio, but I will now.
 

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Protein's relatively abundant nowadays, though it may be harder to get gains on a vegan diet. You'll have enough protein for your Daily Regular Allowance but it'd be very hard to eat 160g of lean, vegan protein.

Most caged eggs are fed soy and grain so you get a lot of saturated fat from them. This is the same with low-tier processed chicken meat. Soy does effect hormones through pyhtoestrogen mimicing estrogen signals I'm not a fan personally, I much prefer nuts, mushroom and bean protein.

Nutritional profile of a vegan diet is a lot better because they can't get their diet from a monoculture diet of meat and bread, most people eating meat and refined grains aren't getting a balanced nutritional palate.
 

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I actually havent checked out the radio. pretty sure that hos peder was the show I was referring to. unfortunately the second season is a mix of dialects and even svensk.

Were you referring to "Jeg mot meg"? I think that was Peder Kjøs as well, only in the TV version. I think the radio one (Hos Peder) has different people in it, and they all speak bokmål:D

Edit: it's full of protein as well
 

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Im currently watching innafor selvmord, I had no idea this stuff existed. We live in such strange times. people are afraid to communicate, compete in self hatred, while pretending to be ok every day. I think suicide will become no1 killer of young people within a few years. its kind of sad and ironic, we live in a time which is the safest, most wealthy, easiest to communicate, and people are sad and now the no1 cause of death is becoming suicide/ heart problems from people comfort eating themselves to death.
 

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^I haven't seen that one. Sorr it's a bit difficult to engage with the topic of suicide while my cat is literally shredding my couch apart while exclaiming "wrrrraaaaah!" in the background...
 

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^ it cries for help, striking at an opportune time, surely you could link your talk of suicide and your cats cries
 

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Protein's relatively abundant nowadays, though it may be harder to get gains on a vegan diet. You'll have enough protein for your Daily Regular Allowance but it'd be very hard to eat 160g of lean, vegan protein.

1.8g of protein per kg of bodyweight if you are a gym rat. So yeah... around 160g

520g of chicken breast per day.
 

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Protein's relatively abundant nowadays, though it may be harder to get gains on a vegan diet. You'll have enough protein for your Daily Regular Allowance but it'd be very hard to eat 160g of lean, vegan protein.

1.8g of protein per kg of bodyweight if you are a gym rat. So yeah... around 160g

520g of chicken breast per day.

I weigh about 80kg, it's a nightmare honestly.

When I did bulk I would literally wash chicken down with water, it tasted like cardboard after a while.
 

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I weigh about 80kg, it's a nightmare honestly.

When I did bulk I would literally wash chicken down with water, it tasted like cardboard after a while.

Tofu is similar to chicken breast...it practically tastes like cardboard as well. Downside is it has at best 19g of protein per 100g e_e... means i have to eat 842g of tofu a day. That is very close to being 1 kg fo tofu a day. Tofu is the best source of vegan protein.

Vegans must be like herbivores. e_e they have large stomachs, possibly 4 to digest all the food they need to stuff themselves with to not lose gainz.
 

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@Tenacity @Kormak @Serac and any others:

Looking for a good planner software, looking to plan weeks in advance, something like 20 days with about 10-15 tasks per day. Any suggestions?
 

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pea protein shakes will be your friend.
 

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@Tenacity @Kormak @Serac and any others:

Looking for a good planner software, looking to plan weeks in advance, something like 20 days with about 10-15 tasks per day. Any suggestions?

XD asking the wrong MBTI type.

Google calendar?
 

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^ I found a really cool app to keep track of all my daily tasks, only works for mac its called a piece of fucking paper
 

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@Rebis wat is this “planning” that you speak of?

I use bits of paper that I write on and tape them on walls

It’s actually quite good because you can see how things branch out and are tied together
 

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@Rebis

I sit under a special tree until a special leaf falls from it and the plan comes to me... :clover:

In all seriousness anything with the kanban and/or scrum method gets pretty next level if you're bored of typical spreadsheets.
 

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Day 28..

Dear diary, father's shitty sense of comedy haunts me to this day..
There is no escape.. people on the internet still don't get my jokes..
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...mm daym! Potatoes taste better with salt!


....I’m sorry, I take things WAY too literally sometimes:rip:
 

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Day 28..

Dear diary, father's shitty sense of comedy haunts me to this day..
There is no escape.. people on the internet still don't get my jokes..
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...mm daym! Potatoes taste better with salt!


....I’m sorry, I take things WAY ago literally sometimes

Kormak turns everything into a debate for fun lol, you don't need to apologize for it.

Your points were all valid. I mean with soy it depends on the person - soy is known to increase estrogen but not in small amounts. If I can guess, I think that's why a lot of men have an aversion to it.

So, also, yes at first the US basically capitalized off a lot of Asia's food culture and made things more suitable to Western taste preferences, i.e. you'll see that a lot of new vegan meat and dairy substitutes involves pea protein instead of soy, coconut, tapioca starch, these are all things that were available within asian food products decades ago. It's expensive right now in the US but it'll get better with economies of scale in a few years (hopefully). If I recall correctly I think the origination was basically Buddhist monks who had an aversion to animal harm. But America has fused so many food cultures so its not like its definitely just Asia/China. Like, for example, authentic pasta is hand-made and made with love in Italy and not out of a box the way we think of "pasta". We now have vegan cheese derived from cashews and coconut oil.

Macadamia milk and macadamia butter is going to hit mainstream next if it hasn't already.
 

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@moody When macadamia products completely saturate the dairy market I'll be able to swap to vegan much more often, I'm actually excited about this
 

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Almond milk's pretty good too, coconut is too sweet and viscuous
 

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Almond milk's pretty good too, coconut is too sweet and viscuous
Agreed, I tried hemp milk a few years back but it wasn't great, wonder if they improved it at all. Coconut cream I'll use for cooking sometimes, it's a great vegan replacement for any white dairy-based sauce
 

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Rebis

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Drifting thoughts of paranoia:

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I blocked the toilet on monday, had to use the toilet brush right before class. Cleaned it all but the toilet brush only about 90%, I didn't have enough time before class, came home 3 hours later after classes and purchased some bleach and gloves to clean the toilet brush. Flatmates might've noticed (although there is 2 toilets), they may've known it was me given I wear boots, the ground isn't good for tip-toeing. Seen a change in reception for sure monday-tuesday, thought it may've been seasonal and/or a few other reasons, ignored it for the most part.

Today Flat mates haven't said hi to me all day, they usually do everytime I walk into the kitchen. Eye contact was not made with the guy in the room next to me when we walked past each other in the hall.

I think he may have overheard when I woke up from my dream yesterday and jumped out of my bed saying "WTF, what is that shit?!" and connecting the two culpable events he may think I have a bowel problem:

Just woke up from a dream, smelt this pungent smell, it got stronger, when I moved I felt it on my leg. I freaked out, looked at it in the dark and thought it was shit. Bounced out of bed, thought it was frogs instead but when I turned on my light nothing was anywhere to be seen.

End result: What if they think I shat my bed? Feels bad man.

To clarify, no shit was actually produced as it was hypnagogia.
 

Rebis

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Please respond I found this was a funny insight into my life and I hope a switch hasn't flipped in your head that I'm a god damn weirdo. If I was to ever ask for external validation, now is the time folks!
 

Tenacity

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Please respond I found this was a funny insight into my life and I hope a switch hasn't flipped in your head that I'm a god damn weirdo. If I was to ever ask for external validation, now is the time folks!
You're a weirdo but it's fine
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@Rebis
I wouldn't worry about it. You were busy. You came back and cleaned up your mess. They will forget about your hypnotic exclamation. Awkward things are bound to happen where you live, and I reckon bringing it up to clarify would make it worse. If you want, in a conversation about sleep and/or stress, you can mention how you have hypnotic hallucinations when you're stressed. That would allow them to draw their own conclusions without putting your foot in your mouth.

I've woken up roommates in the middle of the night when I'd had an especially vivid sleep paralysis/hypnogogic hallucination...except I really freaked them out, because each time I'd though something was chewing off a limb or chasing me and I woke up yelling at them after physically shaking from trying to wake myself up. One time I managed to leap out of bed, but my dream was so strong that I kept seeing the giant mutated spider/scorpion chasing, flashing in and out of existence until I completely woke up. One roommate called me "horror movie shit" :slash: (Not accusingly or angrily...but still...)

Shit happens XD
 

Kormak

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Almond milk's pretty good too, coconut is too sweet and viscuous
Agreed, I tried hemp milk a few years back but it wasn't great, wonder if they improved it at all. Coconut cream I'll use for cooking sometimes, it's a great vegan replacement for any white dairy-based sauce

I have to try these, can't drink milk e_e .. I don't have the yuropean genes to process it.

Please respond I found this was a funny insight into my life and I hope a switch hasn't flipped in your head that I'm a god damn weirdo. If I was to ever ask for external validation, now is the time folks!

^^;... oh man. Still on mushrooms?

:S I sometimes get this "possession event" if I go to sleep too late, drink alcohol be4 bed or if I have a bad night's sleep. It is like there is a presence in my room that enters my body and takes over. I'm there but can't physically control myself... I tend to freak out in my head, but can't scream. It doesn't last too long, I hide under the covers afterward and hope it goes away.

We are all odd here lol.
 
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